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Gameplay => In-Game Roleplay Events => Topic started by: Allive on June 14, 2007, 01:06:36 pm
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once thousands of years ago a sect of mages of aincent blood were ran out of an accademy in another realm. becuase of the side affects there eperiments had leaveing in a hurry they pick up 8 fragments of an altogether older glyph. Working in secerate to create glyphs as powerfull as the whole glyph of the 8 fragments. they slave days and night to create these glyphs to further mankind but can never make them as powerfull as even one of the fragments. increaseing there experiments and furthering there magic more and more the sideaffects get worse and eventualy they make 14 glyphs. these glyphs were come to be known as the "Grey glyphs". eventualy the ppl of the land again got anoyed of these side affects and set to run these mages of once and for all. a fight ensued that killed many and 8 mannaged to escape. were they went noone knew untill now.
Alliva stands ddigging for ore out by the old ruins and stikes something strange picking it up he relaises he struck some sort of incent tablet. wipeing it of he seas symbols words that he can only slightly make out. reserching these symbols and words he find it is an aincent language that his ancestors used. deciphering the tablet a cryptic message is discoverd.l "fifteen in total 3 broken 2 lost 3 traveld and six reside in yalikum". Thinking it was strange alliva asked nyshyn if she could dig out the rest. a few days later Alliva recieved a message from nyshyn saying she had finnaly got it takeing of with kitiranna and zwenze on his heals he gets to the ruins. there he digs out the last few fragments and set the tableton the ground pieced together. Sudenly a portal opens and the three are sent back through time to another realm were they observe what happend to these glyphs and found out what the 15th glyph was that was mentioned. upon returning to there bodys the tablet refers to were one of the six "Grey glyphs" maybe found.
{Pls if you wanna join in feel free this is a bit of the backing story that has happend IG so far. And anyone is asked to particapate both good and evil light and shady characters. who knows you may even be chosen to wield one of these glyphs.}
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[This seems rather against the settings as glyphs cant be fragmented. They explode/ cause big thing to happen when destroyed. And yet another RP saying they have more powerful glyphs than all the rest :thumbdown:. Maybe a little rethinking?]
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erm no cause there is ways to explain all these points the fragmented glyph is actualy a glyph that is older than the realm of yalikum itself so yalikums lays of magic wouldnt apply to such a thing. also the explostion is what we heard we do not know exactly what happend what we were watching we couldnt tell what happend inside the cave just there was a large explostion and blast waves sweapt across the landscape for miles. and again the glyph that is more powerfull than the 14 even in its fragmented form is again the one i pointed out first it is millions of years old older than a lot of realms also the fragmented glyph is not part of the 14 mearly a blueprintof sorts the mages that made the other 14 wanted to make a glyph as powerfull as all 8 fragments would have been together but cause of there fienight knowladge they couldnt make it as powerfull as even a fragment. but someone controlling all 14 glyphs although now it seams impossible would have the power perhaps that could over come several fragments of the 15th glyph. also you have to take into acount the 15th glyph even in its fragmented form cant just be used by anyone it has to be used by someone of one of the bloodlines of the 14 mages in the cave.
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A glyph can't be older than Yliakum - glyphs were created by Talad.
Talad gave up any hope to be reconciled with the old friend and, now alone, turned his thoughts to the people left in the town they had created. He called it "Hydlaa", the name of the most powerful glyph, that Vodùl had revealed to Laanx and that led Talad to ignore prudence to satisfy his pride. Waiting for the day when the other peoples would come, he forged magical power into many shapes, suitable to be used by the mortals to help them to survive underground: he created the Glyphs.
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did talad not use glyphs himself to create yalikum from a greater god that also used glyphs to create other realms i think he did.from these other realms also came 80 % of the races that now reside in yalikum so these realms would also have to be older than yalikum as well and were did these god first come up with the ideas of glyphs ect eh ?.
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Why are people so eager to create something super-powered that doesn't work with the settings? This isn't the right way to go about creating in-game stories.
Laanx and Talad discovered the planet where Yliakum would later be located - and then they shaped it further to their vision. Glyphs were not involved, because again as I said they were later created by Talad. Glyphs are Talad's - if you want to have a magical object that comes from elsewhere, call it something else. You'll confuse people and yourself.
Give the history (http://www.planeshift.it/history.html) a read, you'll benefit from it.
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Why are people so eager to create something super-powered that doesn't work with the settings? This isn't the right way to go about creating in-game stories.
I think it is a question of prestige that sometimes might be associated very closely with PKing and Powerlevelling. "Uber Sceptre of Doom" sounds something to be proud of having on such views.
Laanx and Talad discovered the planet where Yliakum would later be located - and then they shaped it further to their vision. Glyphs were not involved, because again as I said they were later created by Talad. Glyphs are Talad's - if you want to have a magical object that comes from elsewhere, call it something else. You'll confuse people and yourself.
Give the history (http://www.planeshift.it/history.html) a read, you'll benefit from it.
Hehe, this really reminds me of Stargate SG1 and of a certain Erich von Däniken's book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods). Makes it look like they are actually technologically superior aliens instead of simply gods, specially the "discovered the planet where Yliakum would later be located" >o)
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*Annera is met by misterioues a Man In Black that intimidates her to shut up about her views regarding the nature of the supposed gods.
[ Of course this is a joke! :D ]
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did talad not use glyphs himself to create yalikum from a greater god that also used glyphs to create other realms i think he did.from these other realms also came 80 % of the races that now reside in yalikum so these realms would also have to be older than yalikum as well and were did these god first come up with the ideas of glyphs ect eh ?.
Talad doesn't need glyphs, he's a friggin' God ;)
Besides, being a god doesn't automatically mean that you want your followers to have magical abilities.
Not all gods would give their people glyphs. It seems to me Vodúl didn't. He probably "gave" some of his races to Talad and Laanx because he didn't want them anyway.
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As far as i scrambled from the history the races didnt come from Vodul.He only opened the gateways and the other gods sent their races to Yliakum.And there are more gods than the three named gods(talad,Laanx and Vodul).Take into account the part where Gods warn Talad and Laanx of the hardships of having people.
And one litle question.Vodul revealed a glyph called "Hydlaa" to Laanx.Was that glyph made by Talad or Vodul.Because the way it is put now it sugests that Vodul made the first glyphs and Talad copied him.In that case this story might be plausible.
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Where is it stated that the most powerful glyph - Hydlaa- was the item given to Laanx? Besides, Laanx nearly got killed when Talad used the item. It would be fair to state that no mortal would ever be able to wield the item given to Laanx. And Vodúl is like the big-shot of the god world.
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sorry when did i ever state that any of these glyphs gave you godlike power and when did i ever state that you needed godlike power to wield any of these glyphs the only ones that may not be wielded by the commom person is the fragmented purple glow one. and other realms could have had glyphs well before yalikum you gotta remmember were these "glyphs" came from presends yalikum and is therefor not tied to the laws of yalikum these "glyphs aint even the same as the ones found in yalikum. also why get so up tight about what is called a glyph when it was simply named that cause its the name that bests suits it.
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Or you can actually answer the questions asked in this thread instead of just blindly defending yourself.
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did talad not use glyphs himself to create yalikum from a greater god that also used glyphs to create other realms i think he did.from these other realms also came 80 % of the races that now reside in yalikum so these realms would also have to be older than yalikum as well and were did these god first come up with the ideas of glyphs ect eh ?.
Makes perfect sense to me Allive.
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You can argue the technicalities till you are blue in the face. RPing a glyph that is more powerful than others can/ will be able to be obtained ingame is godmodding. Godmodding is for selfish people and being selfish isn't a good trait is it?
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i never said they were more powerfull than any in game i never once said this. pls highlight were i said this ofcourse i did say that a fragment of a glyph is more powerfull than the others yes but this is so i can maintain some element of crontrol over this rp. {i dont see why i should allow an rp that io created be totaly out of my hands]. pluss there is rules over the fragment of the glyph that is designed so that not just one person can control it even alliva with his aincent blood cant control this glyph totaly by himself. and yet you are all flyiong of the handle without even knowing what power or rather abilities these glyphs give {the main point of this is so that the rp has some element that is hidding and is in effect out of my hands as to how ppl go about rping the glyph they have}.
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A glyph can't be older than Yliakum - glyphs were created by Talad.
Talad gave up any hope to be reconciled with the old friend and, now alone, turned his thoughts to the people left in the town they had created. He called it "Hydlaa", the name of the most powerful glyph, that Vodùl had revealed to Laanx and that led Talad to ignore prudence to satisfy his pride. Waiting for the day when the other peoples would come, he forged magical power into many shapes, suitable to be used by the mortals to help them to survive underground: he created the Glyphs.
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Doesn't it say Talad named the town after a glyph Vodùl revealed to Laanx?
"The Glyphs" seem to be just the thingies Talad made available to the mortals.
But I don't know, it's written strangely :p
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hahah nice on draklar so you guys see that could well indicate that the glyphs were not infact made by talad they existed before talad even knew of there existance.
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It is pretty vague. I get the impression from that that there are glyphs the gods use, and the ones Talad let us guys use.
pluss there is rules over the fragment of the glyph that is designed so that not just one person can control it even alliva with his aincent blood cant control this glyph totaly by himself.
Wow that Alliva is so hard done by. What do you mean my ancient blood? Sounds like something I can flame you for. What's wrong with coming up with a RP that doesn't require using items of great power which aren't even in the settings? Makes it alot more fun for everyone, and not just the people who get to use the special items
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there is plenty chance for you to get involved in this rp find a way to get yourself in if you want to go to the extream of finding a glyph let me know of it and your suggestion of how it works and i will see if acceptable for the rp or not. many of the powers the glyphs give are passive anyway so it only really adds to an rp element that ppl can use in other rps. and as for my aincent blood i have coverd a lot of it in me story on the ps boards it gives me some powers outside of glyphs also that some of the more basic spells you get as glyphs i can cast without the use of said glyph.
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Wow, sounds interesting. Frak has ancient blood too, but that's because he's over one hundred years old. I think the only power he get's from it is a greater appreciation for sitting down in a comfortable chair......;)
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and as for my aincent blood i have coverd a lot of it in me story on the ps boards it gives me some powers outside of glyphs also that some of the more basic spells you get as glyphs i can cast without the use of said glyph.
So not godmodding at all then? [/sarcasm] Why would I want to go to you to ask if I can have an item that gives me an advantage above other people I RP with when I'm perfectly happy being on level par, and lower and also perfectly capable of godmodding myself.
I might sound a little gun ho, but I find people that send the whole time trying to have an advantage over other players (note players and not characters) more disruptive than 13375. If you have a mage, make him physically weaker. If you have a warrior, make him not notice when a thief slips his hand in your pocket. I'm way off topic now.
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like i said before these glyphs do not give a lot over over other players these glyphs are infact giveing ppl abilities that they normaly wouldnt have. now for the sake of the rp i wont reveal anything that isnt already known but for example "the grey glyph of the ranger" gives the ability to talk with animals. an ability that ppl already rp and are not called god modders for this i know already. and the newest one "the grey glyph of the necromancer" as it stands at the moment it gives the ability to comunicate with the dead im sorry but i fail to see how this would give an advantage over anyone in things infact these abilities open up some nice rp oppertunities. if you still think those are god modding then your welcom to your view and after trying to tell you for so long that these glyphs aint all powerfull and such like you still call it god modding i really couldnt care about your opinion. as for asking me if you can have a glyph that i havent already designated these glyphs are designed in a specific way as to not one being more powerfull than the other and well it is my rp if you supposedly have one of these glyphs not sanctioned by me then im afraid youll just be ignored if you try to use it or you will be at least by the main ppl and you name will be made known.
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I might sound a little gun ho, but I find people that send the whole time trying to have an advantage over other players (note players and not characters) more disruptive than 13375. If you have a mage, make him physically weaker. If you have a warrior, make him not notice when a thief slips his hand in your pocket. I'm way off topic now.
I don't think its off topic at all. Probably with the abilitys you've given the grey glyphs this will be hard to do but take it into consideration Alliva. Make weaknesses for these grey glyphs. They are not super god power glyphs (from the sound of the abilities) but they are special so they should have a special cost. A negative effect on the user.
Thats what I think most people miss when it come's to rping a special teqnique or using a special weapon. I had it brought to my attention that one of my own techniques was lacking a negative effect. It had one but the effect was not bad enough to stop me from wanting to use it. The negative effect has to suit the positive effect. Almost like math when you add -7 and 7 to make 0. So lets say you had a spell that gave instant death. The negative effect should be that the wielder also dies or something close. It's just a way to keep balance and with the negative effects it really stops rp from going god mod.
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Very well put Duraza. Personally I don't really see anything wrong with this grey glyph idea. If the abilities help further roleplay then they can only be a positive. The whole ancient blood thing really does smell a little of god-modding though I have to say...
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well as duraza already know my aincent blood and the spells connected to it dose drain alliva a hole lot every time ive used one of the spells alliva has been drained nearly to the point of not being able to continue. But the grey glyphs have the negative effect of the fact that it will drain ppl a lot and they should be rped that it drains them a lot also the glyphs that perhaps do have a overpowering power dose infact have a specific set of rules such to the fact they can back fire on that person. but the story of the grey glyphs have just started bilieve me these ppl that wield the grey glyphs will be faceing trials and a great threat.
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[but anyway it seams this topic has gotten a bit of it so heres a quick storie of what has happend so far]
Alliva sits in the library the third stone tablet in front of him on a table as he attempts to decipher it and find a possible location for the third glyph. Cracking his bones Alliva stops for a moment and starts to write down on a piece of parchment some of the important events that has happend so far.
The grey glyph of the Ranger.
ah yes the tablet i found fragment and took time to repair and find a translation for. something strange happend and it showed us a vision of sorts of what happend in the past. how the grey glyphs came to yalikum. This glyph was gaurded by a guardian that had turned himself into a tefusang and in doing so could not turn himself back trapping his restless soul forever in that form. Tungor of the way of the hammer recieved this glyph.
The grey glyph of the necromancer
From the second tablet handed over by the first guardian it was found in the hands of a menki not the original gaurdian but one that took the job willingly. this menki made a deal with the first guardian that he would guard the glyph untill someone came and his love who had her life taken from her as she walked home from the tavern one night in a viscous attack. in return he would get his wife back with the help of many zwenze, kitiranna, Teraree, karark, raoni and myself the menki was able to restore the fenkis soul with her body so she may live again. Teraree of the way of the hammer a powerfull dark way mage recieved this glyph.
Alliva sighs i wonder what other crazy things we will have to do to attain these other glyphs they seam to just get more and more dangerous the more we find is it worth finding them all. Alliva sudenly feels like someone is watching him not from close by but from a distance. what is this hmmmm i dont like the thought of what i could have unleashed with finding these glyphs.
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a cloacked figure stands at the edge of the canyon leadeing to ojaveda seacking alliva and those that stand with him. A dwarve by the name of teraree appears and the figure aproaches the dwarve. is this the way to ojaveda asks the figure the dwarve nods what are you looking for he asks. the figure replies alliva alyeve oh what do you want with him the figure squints im going to kill him he replies. so your him your the one replies teraree well i am sorry i cannot allow you to do that he is my friend. the figure just scofs. the dwarves quickly pulls his daggers and rushes the tall figure but is quickly put down with a fist full of dark magic and red way energies. standing up teraree sheaths his daggers and launches bolts of ice at the figure the figure quickly grabs his masive sword and shatters the ice. teraree starting to wonder if he can handle the person he pulls out his grey glyph. the figure now intertwined with darkness and red way glow he sniggers. teraree concentrateing summons many bone creatures as they attack a shower of meteors start to hit the ground the figure standing strong and smiles slightly as one hits teraree. the bone creatures are struck also destroying all but one that mannages to hit the figure again the figure grabs his sword and with a quick turn he brings the massive sword crashing down crushing the creature. terare trying to get up to his feet the figure grabs his head and starts to prob his mind rendering teraree unconcious. just as the figure is about to aquire the glyph gag comes along and hold him at bay long enough for teraree to gain conciousness and just in time to see the massive sword above the figure head.mustering all his might teraree summons a bone ulbernought catching the figure of guard the figure is sent flying as teraree passes out again. the figure coughing up some blood from the mouth retreats shouting that he will be back.
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How intresting. I'm guiessing that Teraree was not just fainting from pain but from having to use the grey glyph. Having to summon so many of these "bone creatures" must have drained him entirely :P
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it never helped no.
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It sounds very "guild wars" these grey glyphs. Almost like by getting a grey glyph you get to use a guild wars proffession in Yliakum......It's odd seeing a Minion Master in planeshift though i must say ;D
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lol i tried to think of other ways to name the glyphs such as the grey glyph of death then the devs put in the death glyph so i had to go back and re do em was going to name them after the elements ai, land water ect ect but decided to go with names that would hopefully suit what the glyphs can do.
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the cloacked figure sits in kadas not doing anything in the towns or in front of the law he can still walk around freely. soon the time will come these anoyance shall be whiped from the face of existance and i shall gain my throan of ruller of this realm. the figure looks at his sword and ponders a little of its origange now i may as well wonder why i found you in the same tomb as i woke up in i wonder what significants you have and why me. the figure is interupted by a dwarve he has saw before and imedietly stands and places his sword back onto his back walking out of kadas not wishing to destroy one place he may very well leave standing after he rules the realm of yalikum.
Alliva sits examining the books that he recieved from agara of the knowladge seakers and something reminds him of the handle of the cloacked ones sword i wonder alliva thought. closely readying the passage with a picture of a similar skeatch as the handle of the sword he deciphers it the best he can. Kittirana looking over his shoulder asks what alliva is looking at. alliva points to the picture this it seams the cloacked one has a weapon not of this world it says here that the weapon was not initialy a sword but of something completely different. the weapon is a shapeshifter capable of takeing the form of witch ever weapon the wielder desires. it was created for the lord of darkness the strongest of the 14 houses of my ancestors it said the sword was made by the other 13 to celebrate there lords birthday and they poured all there knowladge and magic into createing this sword a just weapon for the lord of lords.