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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Coastal on June 17, 2007, 03:52:51 pm
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Greetings
If answering is not a spoiler, can anyone confirm or deny the existence of a Charisma trainer for levels over 120 ?
Thanks
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My character has 128 charisma.
Muhahaha.
Racial bonus.
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Charisma might be useful once it influences the way NPCs react to you(Of course(AHEM) with the dumb static character models that are the NPCs we have now this is really coming soon(TM)). For now, besides boosting crystal and dark way, it's pretty much useless. But perhaps once it might be possible to talk and "buy" your way inside the Winch instead of running errands.
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Well like the other stats there are various weapons which need a certain amount to equip.
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I know this might not be the appropriate place to comment on this, but "training" charisma doesn't seem to make much sense in my opinion. If there was a "Persuade" skill instead of charisma to be trained, then it would make more sense. I don't think charisma is something that really can be taught, it is more of a capability that develops fully with practice in regular social interactions, and neither I think there are plastic surgeries in Yliakum to make people improve their appearance. Charisma, like Intelligence, should be untrainable, and if improvable by other means rather than paying a training to make magic with the OOC progression points to make your character prettier and speak like a great leader all of a sudden; the amount you could improve them realistically should be very limited.
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Schorr thing bud
Sincerity: if you can fake it, you've got it made.
Oh wait, this isn't the Pun-ishment thread. Here is the link (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/danielscho379429.html) for that quote.
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Useful or not, settings has discussed the fact that all stats except charisma could be trained to 200, and agreed that in terms of skills there needs to be balance.
Therefore! We now have some top-tier charisma trainers.
You're welcome. :)
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As a charismatic Diaboli, I had better go training then.
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yeah thank you! now if only I could afford to train anything...
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I know this might not be the appropriate place to comment on this, but "training" charisma doesn't seem to make much sense in my opinion. If there was a "Persuade" skill instead of charisma to be trained, then it would make more sense. I don't think charisma is something that really can be taught, it is more of a capability that develops fully with practice in regular social interactions, and neither I think there are plastic surgeries in Yliakum to make people improve their appearance. Charisma, like Intelligence, should be untrainable, and if improvable by other means rather than paying a training to make magic with the OOC progression points to make your character prettier and speak like a great leader all of a sudden; the amount you could improve them realistically should be very limited.
Intelligence is also a measure of how much your charactar knows, so just like we send our kids to school to improve their intelligence, you can train with someone to learn more and there fore train your intelligence. the same can be done with the charisma. you ever heard of those books that tell you how to "get all the ladies and the money" ? once again, i bet some npc's can give you that kind of information. who says you can't improve yourself?
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Oh yeah...all those books for fat idiots that don't work? Oh oh! Don't forget that a lot of countries either don't have many people going to school or have an awful school system.
I don't know if this is news to you but a lot of kids hate school...a lot. They'd rather just pursue knowledge on their own when they feel like it. It would work a lot better than forcing them to go to school and memorize material then forget it after the year's up. Besides, if it was like that, stupid people could stay stupid, idiots who think they're going to become famous rapper gangstas(fags) could start working on getting shot five times and surviving earlier. Meanwhile less stupid people could actually pursue their career instead of taking 5 classes for 16 years that has nothing to do with it.
Get the point yet? You don't learn much in school. Most people just end up getting some average job and forgetting it all. Kudos to engineers and people that are still smart, and a lot of them can be quite dim in other areas besides math and such. Besides one little trainer should hardly have time to nearly instantly teach one person, than the next, then another 100. Charisma is the skill of persuasion after all. Train it by bribing NPCs and such. Intelligence by reading books...or maybe solving puzzles.
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Intelligence is also a measure of how much your charactar knows,
Intelligence is a measure of one's ability to reason, perceive and connect various facts. What you're talking about is called "Wisdom".
Said that, all stats are trainable... well, "trainable". They depend on your lifestyle more than singular training sessions.
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Greetings !
Well no Dev's or GM's gave us the word on this thread, but as of today there are 2 new stat trainers in Yliakum !!
I hope this isn't too much of a spoiler
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Jeraphon responded. He's a Dev, mostly.
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Jeraphon, I am so sorry, Posting without re-reading the posts !
Won't happen again
Thanks to the Devs for quickly fixing this oversight !
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I think there could be a "barter" skill that would be charsima based. This skill could be used to affect the price of buying/selling items to NPC's. Just a thought.
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We've discussed a "mercantile" skill before. We're not sure if it's going to happen. In future, prices will possibly depend on charisma and faction with the merchant, so the issue is "exactly how many factors do we need for pricing?"