PlaneShift

Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Rayken on October 24, 2007, 01:39:02 am

Title: Wikipedia article
Post by: Rayken on October 24, 2007, 01:39:02 am
Looks like the PlaneShift article onWikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlaneShift) is scheduled for deletion.  If this bothers anyone, I suggest you do something about it now.  I haven't decided if it bothers me yet...
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: acraig on October 24, 2007, 02:44:12 am
I am indiffernt to it and would probably support it's deletion there.  If you check the discussion page it has turned a bit nasty in places so is not really worth the effort to fight a battle there.  It just gives the people on wikipedia another headache.  Let's keep the pitched battles in places where they belong.  The last thing I want is retaliation type attacks on wikipedia
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: steuben on October 24, 2007, 03:00:58 am
/me sighs
again? i'm going to say it bothers me. mostly becuase it feels like the zanzi's of wiki are doing this to other game and other topics. 9
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Rayken on October 24, 2007, 06:45:53 am
Now that I've had some time to think, it does  bother me, mostly because I remember the main dissenter has having once been a regular on #planeshift.  Now I can't help but feel he has a personal vendetta against the project.  Regardless, Acraig makes a lot of sense, and I will just let this go. 
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: SerqFeht on October 24, 2007, 07:23:50 am
That article actually inspired me to join this game. Wow, people are getting really emotional over trying to delete it. 2 million pages, and a few people are raging over one article that is better than many others in the same catagory? I like Wikipedia, but sometimes it is really bad.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: miadon on October 24, 2007, 11:12:48 am
I just want to say LOL, its classed as not notable when there are games like supertux in Wikipedia which no one is debating as notable. Planeshift compared to supertux is far bigger :p
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: ThomPhoenix on October 25, 2007, 07:43:20 pm
Well, the article was saved :)
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: SerqFeht on October 27, 2007, 05:59:22 am
There are biographies of obscure scientists on Wikipedia that are a date and a 4 words. Sometimes Wikipedia is bizarre
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: bilbous on October 27, 2007, 06:40:23 am
Ah but those scientists might be notable enough in their fields for very basic info but not enough to someone to bother writing an article.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Hectate on October 31, 2007, 01:47:53 pm
Unfortunately I got there too late to contribute to the AfD discussion, but I still posted a few links to help further cement the "notability" requirement as being met. What is really needed is for somebody to re-write it using all the sources that have been found.

And on a side note, www.slashdot.org posted some news about people boycotting Wikipedia's fund drive because of their harsh notability policies and the cruelty of the editors that enforce them. And yes, those are weasel words :)
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: miadon on November 05, 2007, 12:25:21 am
I'm glad I'm not the only one then who feels the same way about Wikipedia at the moment.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Link on November 10, 2007, 12:58:01 am
Well, it is fortunate that the article was saved. Everyone is partial to their own hobbys/likes/etc and everyone thinks something they have is notable. Unfortunately Planeshift is still on the verge of notable/non-notable and it will be brought up again if notability isn't established in the article. Furthermore, meatpuppeting ruled many of the votes from fans here moot.  But thanks for bringing it up here so everyone can begin "improving" the article. Everyone is welcome to edit at Wikipedia but whoever **.**.**.** is, stop reverting and changing the article without reading about wiki policy, guidelines, and manual of style, your edits were reverted for a reason.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Raa on November 10, 2007, 04:34:51 am
Whoa, I thought that guy (Link) was gone... Also, that's why you can never trust Wikipedia. Some obese retard kid in Japan could be screwing with it.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Under the moon on November 10, 2007, 06:48:21 am
Gee golly. An here I was thinking wikipedia was all about looking something up that you wanted to know about.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Gruxun on November 10, 2007, 07:43:05 am
Whoa, I thought that guy (Link) was gone... Also, that's why you can never trust Wikipedia. Some obese retard kid in Japan could be screwing with it.

It's a known fact that SpigotMap on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SpigotMap) = Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlaneShift_%28video_game%29&diff=prev&oldid=83775774).  Perhaps he just wants to get the article deleted to hide the evidence.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: bilbous on November 10, 2007, 07:44:21 am
Personally I wouldn't think any game was particularly notable,  unless perhaps it has survived 50+ years or something. Wikipedia has gone too far pandering to those who wish to chronicle popular culture. I mean  really???  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_mash)

They must be hurting over there with their crapulent donation page auto-refresh. How pathetic.

:offtopic: whats with the Elric impression UTM?
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Raa on November 10, 2007, 08:17:36 am
Whoa, I thought that guy (Link) was gone... Also, that's why you can never trust Wikipedia. Some obese retard kid in Japan could be screwing with it.

It's a known fact that SpigotMap on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SpigotMap) = Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlaneShift_%28video_game%29&diff=prev&oldid=83775774).  Perhaps he just wants to get the article deleted to hide the evidence.

ROFL!
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Parallo on November 10, 2007, 10:49:49 am
I like wikipedia. Not for actually researching topics. If you can't get free sources elsewhere that are ten times better then its wiki entery will be trash. Anyway, its fun to go and check out the featured page sometimes because they usually only feature factually accurate things and its nice to actually learn something new everyday. :)
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Talad on November 10, 2007, 12:41:16 pm
Link, it is just you that thinks PlaneShift is not "known" or "notable". With about 8000 regular players and hundred thousands registered accounts, and articles everywhere in the net speaking about us, only a stone would not see we are known and notable. We are the only project which managed to reach such results with a free team, and we have a community that luckily supports us greatly. Don't you have anything better to do than vandalizing the PlaneShift page on wikipedia?
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Parallo on November 10, 2007, 12:47:20 pm
Only a stone would not see we are known and notable.

I'm sorry but I couldn't help it.

*points at quote then Talad's avatar.*

Anyway, I'd agree that it is notable. I mean it is cross platform and it crops up in just about every list of top MMORPGs I had come across before actually joining. Since then it has grown. On top of that, the very fact that it is a completely free graphical MMORPG with an emphasis on rp has be of some note.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: miadon on November 10, 2007, 05:58:41 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Notability
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Link on November 11, 2007, 11:10:52 am
Hello Talad, I have great respect for how far you have brought Planeshift and I assume you are one of the anons repeatedly adding unsourced information to the Wikipedia article. All I'm asking for is the article be sourced. I'm not the one who brought the article up for AfD, I only brought it up because another editor did not know how to post it. I'm all for adding sources and will help wikify them in to the article if sources can be found other then fan sites and 2-3 sentence magazine mentions.
Title: Re: Wikipedia article
Post by: Link on November 12, 2007, 03:08:39 am
Okay, myself and a few others including Talad have had a small meeting to discuss the article and have all come to a common ground that will be better for the project and the article. I have begun to re-write parts of the article to wikipedia standards, if anyone has concerns or needs help adding/changing information in the article feel free to contact me on IRC or here and I'd be happy to help. Thanks!