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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Sheneer Shenele on November 05, 2007, 10:26:10 pm
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We at the Prophets Of Chaos believe this world slides between normality and chaos at great speed, our aim is to keep this crucial balance. At PoC you will slide through the ranks with help and support from other members like simply getting you started with some basic weapons to getting you easy access to metals and magic. If you join us you'll feel right at home.
[OOC: 18+ or else mature, please PM me or find any of our members ingame, we hope to have you on the team soon!]
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A guild thread should have much, much more than this. Look through other threads and stickies and try again is my advice.
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What Parallo said. Plus, having an above 18 or mature requirement doesn't make sense. Everyone around here should be mature and you're supposed to report them if they do anything childish (like flooding the chat with OOC speech.)
A fun note:
Currently, we don't know what your guild is. It looks like a sort of thing where members join to do something together that is only allowed for people above 18/mature enough.
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I understand this is a dead topic and the speach is very short lived but I have just joined the game recently, you can find me as Elupe Udo. Or just Elupe thank you.
PoC is a great guild, I ran into one of there members in the sewers by the name of Asonoh killing some dwarfs while I hunted the rats. After confronting him on why he was killing men *obviously in OOC:* he spoke words of wisdom and cunning and was more then happy to aid this wandering bard into finding new weapons as I believe (Not for cirtain) that musical instruments is a useless skill and having 16 in it at lv 1 is well...pathetic. He bought me some of the best daggers 300 quality and popped the question. Of course I was indebted to these guys. For all non PoC players the reason why they ask that your over 18 is only for the simple fact that their chat in order to keep it fun and exciting is full of adventure, ahem..swearing, and other assortment of things. Think of us as the neutral pirates. We are there to help, we don't care what you do. But by god we are going to have fun doing it and swear if we have to!
With that said I hope you can concider this a crude testimonial as this has been my feelings from the get go and I don't plan on leaving anytime soon.
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I think the main thing Parallo and Sangwa are after is what IC purpose the guild serves. From my understanding, the idea of having guilds was to enhance roleplay by letting players form guilds that would suit their characters, as opposed to a guild that is formed for OOC purposes.
Note: I am not trying to imply that the Prophets of Chao were formed for OOC reasons, as i simply do not know enough to say that. All I am stating is that there have been no IC reasons for the guild being formed mentioned in this thread.
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Note: I am not trying to imply that the Prophets of Chao were formed for OOC reasons, as i simply do not know enough to say that. All I am stating is that there have been no IC reasons for the guild being formed mentioned in this thread.
Very well let me elaborate our purpous, nay we are not an OOC guild nothing even close although OOC does reach our ears do to our leader mapping our location in the real world to see where our members come from. No Beniel PoC is a guild that is here to seek the balance of the world, the unity of chaos and peace and so far we are doing a pretty bang up job of it. :whistling: not to boast of course hehe.
So if you question why PoC is here, why it was founded then find one of us in the world and we will be more then happy to assist you in explaining our history. Or better yet seek your local library in the up coming weeks for my profession is a travling bard as well as a minstral and a book by Elupe Udo may be found labled The History of PoC just for the confused ones who are interested in our history or purpous such as yourself Beniel.
I hope that helps a little bit and any further questions please feel free to PM me.
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I did a /who once and I saw a rather corny rank. If all of that is true, why is one of your ranks "Schoolyard Bully"?
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I did a /who once and I saw a rather corny rank. If all of that is true, why is one of your ranks "Schoolyard Bully"?
Because sometimes you need someone to get in deep and kick your ass into action? *sigh* People need to realize you have fun with your ranks and give them all a meaning. TO be a schoolyard bully you basically are there to help moderate and take action to other guildies that get out of line or are just slacking and being lazy.
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Why would any self-respecting guild make such a silly, OOC-ish rank, though?
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Because unlike most guilds where they just care about respect and honor PoC cares for it's members and to keep the one thing in the game alive, to enjoy it by having fun. Sure we rp like mad and develop our characters into such insane detail we should be shot, especially me who is writing out a diary of my adventures in the game. Besides being serious all the time takes the run out of the game and sure some people like to play the uptight assmuch but some people such as myself like to play a more upbeat, free spirited folk.
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Besides being serious all the time takes the run out of the game ...
I'll bet you meant fun here, Elupe. ;)
Off topic: Ah yes, if only it did take the "run" out. :whistling: Personally, I'm truly looking forward to other ways to travel in PS.
A fun note:
Currently, we don't know what your guild is. It looks like a sort of thing where members join to do something together that is only allowed for people above 18/mature enough.
Although I've only been in Prophets of Chaos for a couple of months, no guild event or in-character roleplay with others in PS would be classified only for those over 18. Too many restrictive guild laws can take the fun out of a guild for some people. Having a sense of humor is definitely a requirement for being in Prophets of Chaos. My current level is entitled "schoolyard bully" as mentioned above. At times guild ranks are based on words being twisted in the guild chat window. :innocent: {Fair warning, it's payback time!}
We do have structure and leveling requirements and a leader who doesn't rule with an iron fist but instead gets feedback from all members. Although I've received many /tells commenting on my choice of guilds, I've never regretted joining this fun group who attempts to add some spice to our everyday lives in PS.
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I have been a Prophet for only a few months, since a few weeks of my joining PS, and at the time didn't really get the idea of what PoC was all about. As time has passed I've learned more about Yliakum that I ever would have without the help of my Brothers and Sisters. I have found this band of mismatched brigands, rebels and a bard to have a strong sense of self within the realm and a singular purpose that effects all who wander the world. I am proud to wear the Prophets of Chaos title.
The intention of our 18+ age limit is wholy misunderstood by those outside our sphere. It isn't there to exclude folk that we dont want in our guild. It is there simply because our guild life is such that the content is decidedly adult. The 18+ tag helps folk to understand our contexts and intentions are sometimes unsuitable for the overly youthful. We want everyone to be a Prophet in an ideal Ylia, we welcome all and sundry to join us in our exultations of infinite adventure and deed doings.
We are not ruled by any law save our own, that being the protection of balance between order and chaos. This is a devine purpose and as such transcends realmly law. We shoulder this devotion with honour and strength and suffer the wrath of those who don't care to understand. We seek not to cause a fight yet we will never refuse one. We will not seek strife unless it be to our greater purpose. Be thee too good you will see us, be thee too evil and you will see us more. Fight us and we WILL kill you. That is our way for we are absolute.
As a Prophet I walk the realm without fear. I have no hate of race or creed. I judge not save those unjust. I aid all who would ask gladly and ask nought for my aid. I deal swiftly in battles with absolute precision to the death. I am Gorphus or the Prophets of Chaos and am Damned honoured to be so.
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If you're not ruled by any law except your own, that makes you criminals I believe. :)
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If you're not ruled by any law except your own, that makes you criminals I believe. :)
Afraid not lad it does not make us a crimminal for obeying our own laws. Anarcist perhaps but no criminal. I would think of us more as a crusader band or fallen paladin status as we help all who ask it, and some who don't AKA Myself hehe good ol Asonoh. But either way we stick to our creed and are a band of brothers and sisters from other mothers but by god we will stand by our word and protect one another no matter how big or small or how new or old...well aside from the noobies who attempt to fight us and then slay the innocent while we speak to them only to deny our challange for your crime. :devil: Zugzug I am speaking to you boyo and by the holy whatever religion you are I will be sure not to be merciful and lay that final strike against your throat next we meet.
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So if you're ruled by your own law, does that justify one of your members stealing something from someone (being the Schoolyard Bully they are) and not being punished by the Hydlaa guards?
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*shakes his head slightly confused*
How do you steal something that is not physically there? If that was the case then we are all thieves by stealing the worlds air but we are not punished for it at all. This is a tricky matter to speak of Shaman but I am glad your trying to stump us although it will never work. ;D
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I'm not trying to stump you, I'm showing you that you're not exempt from the law because of what guild you're in. You can't steal a piece of jewelry from someone else while in town with the justification that "I'm a Prophet of Chaos! I follow my own rules!", because you'll still have the Hydlaa guards rushing over and bashing your head in with a club if you decide that to be true. :P
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??? Last time I checked we don't do anything CLOSE to that, the only thing we do is take the law into our own hands when it comes to something dealing with us. For example, some rude noobie comes up and starts insulting you expecting you to praise him and bow down to him. What would you do shrug it off right? Ah, not a PoC we live by the code to never back down. One I like very much even for a non combat oriented soul, no what we do is ask them to appologize if they refuse we ask once more, with a more...perswasive matter; they deny once more. Then the afterlife is goin to be their new friend for their ignorance. Does that make a little more sense? We defend our honor and ourselves, THAT is our own law that we stick to. But we do not go around murdering innocent people or steal from them, no that is wrong and sensless and is not the PoC way.
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But what about this "harmony of chaos", and the schoolyard bully rank and whatnot? To me it sounds like you have these "good" and "evil" people in the guild working together or some such. You have a lot of these explanations, but I can't make sense of any of them.
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??? Last time I checked we don't do anything CLOSE to that, the only thing we do is take the law into our own hands when it comes to something dealing with us. For example, some rude noobie comes up and starts insulting you expecting you to praise him and bow down to him. What would you do shrug it off right? Ah, not a PoC we live by the code to never back down. One I like very much even for a non combat oriented soul, no what we do is ask them to appologize if they refuse we ask once more, with a more...perswasive matter; they deny once more. Then the afterlife is goin to be their new friend for their ignorance. Does that make a little more sense? We defend our honor and ourselves, THAT is our own law that we stick to. But we do not go around murdering innocent people or steal from them, no that is wrong and sensless and is not the PoC way.
Make sure to know the difference between IC and OOC actions. No player is allowed to OOCly police the game to "teach" disruptive players a lesson under any circumstances. If you are insulted by a newcomer who does not know any better contact a GM and we will deal with them, just like we deal with bug exploiters and other game rule breakers. Asking for duels or showing them how powerful and worthy of respect you are is an immature way to deal with this and it can be considered harassment and punished accordingly. So don't go vigilante unless you want to be banned. If you're bothered by the actions of another player ask them to stop. If they don't, contact a GM and let us handle it.
On the other hand if the actions were all IC and all the players involved are having fun, knock yourself out.
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Aye and thats what we did...they had fun till we started calling him a cowardly worm for denying our challenge but killing another noobie who just had fist to fight with against his blade. *sigh* it's a sad world we live in but someones got to keep the peace.
To be a clan of vigilantes is not a bad then nor against any rules if your character plays as one and in a sense most of us are aside from me who does not combat much although he is growing ever so close do the actions he had for sparing the dwarfs life who killed another.
But Shaman harmony of chaos is the same thing as yin and yang you can't live without the other. Aye, we do have evil people as well as good people but we coexist to better ourselves and seek out the same goal so don't judge us as your not a PoC so you don't know what happens in our ranks last time I checked.
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I definitely think this guild's initial thread needs an overhaul.
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I definitely think this guild's initial thread needs an overhaul.
And not to be rude but I think anyone who doesn't like our guild can piss off. We all play different people and all role play differently. The people in PoC love it due to not being a conformist and being the same knightly goody too shoes guild around or being some rogue thief guild. PoC is a neutral balance and I believe it to be the best guild regardless of what you all think with your judgmental minds.
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Aye and thats what we did...they had fun till we started calling him a cowardly worm for denying our challenge but killing another noobie who just had fist to fight with against his blade. *sigh* it's a sad world we live in but someones got to keep the peace.
The RP has to be fun for everyone. Period. If it stops being fun for someone, you need to rethink your strategy. This can be considered an admission of harassment (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=31960.msg367020#msg367020) and exactly the kind of attitude you have to avoid: you do not go about insulting people who do not want to duel with you. Why? Becuase then what started IC turns into OOC and it's a mess. Especially if the player you are insulting is new and not familiar with the distinction. How are they supposed to know the difference if they are new? If you insult their character, they will think you are insulting them, the players, and quite frankly it's not clear to me if you are making that distinction yourself. If you have a problem with a player, ignore them. If they are disrupting your RP and ruining your gaming experience, report them but note that insulting other players is a sure way of getting yourself in trouble.
To be a clan of vigilantes is not a bad then nor against any rules if your character plays as one and in a sense most of us are aside from me who does not combat much although he is growing ever so close do the actions he had for sparing the dwarfs life who killed another.
I suggest you read the Game Rules and Policies (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=31960.0) to make sure you don't step out of boundaries with your RP. There is nothing wrong about roleplaying a lawless character but that does not mean you do not have to respect the game rules.
Now, I have no personal opinion on the purpose or nature of your guild. My observations have nothing to do with that but with enforcing game rules, which seems to be an issue based on what you have mentioned. You and your guild, as well as any other player, must respect them.
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Last time I checked we respect the rules Dajoji and never have broken them. Aye, what I said to the dwarf was a little uncalled for due to me also being new to this land and not knowing much if any. However if you were there you would have understood why I called him such...he called the dove a man, something that he would not take back so I threatened his life for his insult.
Knowing that perhaps you could understand why I called him a worm.
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Now you know that kind of behavior is not the way to handle things.
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Aye and hopefully you can understand the reasoning behind our guild. We don't seek the impossible we are more like a street gang if you want to look at it, a very large and active...and powerful street gang. We abide by the laws of the land but take justice into our own hands where we see fit. At least that is what I have noticed from time to time.
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I'm not questioning the reasoning behind your guild. That is not the issue I'm addressing. Feel free to role play that you take justice in your own hands IC, just don't do the same when it comes to enforcing game rules and dealing with players that should be reported or you will get in trouble.
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My personal opinion if we talk about rules, boundaries and interactions. It maybe sound like wishlist, but thats also why I am now in the guild we are talking about - i get as close to my wishes here as possible.
There is too much good, honourable, protective atmosfere in game. I am not against it, but if everybody is on same side - who is on the other side? If only NPCs, then it is like playing any game without internet or LAN. Weak interactions, or lets say only half of possible dimension for actions. That is why i would like to play IC on the other side. Now it is very hard to do, as it is being restricted (banned f.example) OOC-ly. If the restrictions were IC, then it would be a broader field of play for us. For example - not a GM, but Hydlaa guards (may even be GMs) comes and arrests one and he has to sit in jail for say 40 ingame hours, or his belongings are taken from him and sold on auction. Or he is attacked by Bevon, Moren or other guards when in vicinity. So, so called players-outlaws would hide from NPC guards (which for example change their stats to be just over players).
I would prefer to protect my honor not by whining to a GM (and taking his time), but by kicking the persons (how to name that part?) to the Death Realm, if he stalks me or annoys too much. Completely IC and I see nothing against rules there. Have done that actually once, when marrying thing was implemented. To the DR he went after numerous denies.
Would be great if rules were also separated in IC and OOC. Like IC - stealing, lockpicking, fighting in Hydlaa. OOC - cheating, bug abusing, being rude (but not annoying, at least to ordinary player).
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The rules make a very clear distinction between IC and OOC. Unfortunately, in most cases, players cannot keep those separate, so what starts as an IC argument ends up as an OOC problem filled with "he said/she said" crap. It's the way the players handle their issues that determine how messy the IC/OOC situation becomes. All GMs can do is damage control once this has escalated.
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I definitely think this guild's initial thread needs an overhaul.
And not to be rude but I think anyone who doesn't like our guild can piss off. We all play different people and all role play differently. The people in PoC love it due to not being a conformist and being the same knightly goody too shoes guild around or being some rogue thief guild. PoC is a neutral balance and I believe it to be the best guild regardless of what you all think with your judgmental minds.
Err...I've tried interpreting Xillix's post as many ways as possible, but I cannot see how you managed to get the idea there was any implication of disliking your guild.
All that was said is the thread needs an overhaul per forum rules here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23102.0).
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but don't worry! since i'm such a nice guy, I'll give yeah the chance to redo your promotion thread as it should be done per forum rules. just make a new thread following those rules, and ill be a happy neko. if not, i'll be a mad neko, and then i might hafta enforce disciplinary actions.... you don't want to make this nice guy of myself-ness have to do that now do you? nah, didn't think so.
:)