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Title: Race Poll
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on November 18, 2007, 12:28:27 am
Ok given the success of the polls we figured we would keep up with it.

A couple things to note:

This is not a democracy; we will heed your wishes as often as is possible, but some unseen practical considerations supersede our ability to deliver all you want all the time.

Secondly, it'll be a while before we can implement the changes you are voting for.

Please vote though, we do want to know what you think and it will help guide our choices.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 18, 2007, 12:37:42 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuCq0aZiPT0

it was a tough call though.  smurfs was definitely a close second ;)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on November 18, 2007, 12:48:53 am
if you all let human females win I will never forgive you :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Dajoji on November 18, 2007, 12:55:23 am
Tough call. I'd go for the ones that have no model yet. I'm not sure if this means they will get them sooner but at least there could be more content on them to make up for it. I'm personally most curious about the Nolthrir and Klyros.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Kieve on November 18, 2007, 12:56:34 am
Chalk me up for a femme Klyros. Seeing a barechested Klyros wandering around with a female descriptor makes me feel more than a little awkward.

[edit:  :oops: ]
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 18, 2007, 01:02:06 am
No way...Diaboli males, that's enough said...we need a dark race for once, elves would have that similarity about them, and human females are fine using the elf female look for now...Diaboli males are just so much more interesting, give us the devils. :D
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Earl_Listbard on November 18, 2007, 01:03:00 am
DIABOLI!


ffs they don't even have a model, and are an awesome race, just imagining what they might look like.


In spesific I'd like to see the males first, but if both males and females were created together, well, that would be ideal.


and Ylian (not human) females imo are not as interesting as diaboli ^^

They have their place, its just I want to see some diaboli models. And I pray they are nothing like the dermorians O.o


btw, what in talad's good name is a snork?

and the fact that smurfs are on there makes me lose all respect for you Zil-ex  :'(
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on November 18, 2007, 01:13:56 am
In any poll there are people who throw away their vote, we are just giving them a nice way to do it

besides i want to satisfy my personal curiousity about who is more leet

Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Earl_Listbard on November 18, 2007, 01:16:30 am
In any poll there are people who throw away their vote, we are just giving them a nice way to do it

besides i want to satisfy my personal curiousity about who is more leet




leet?... so you're asking which is better, snorks or smurfs?


Again is snork a new creature coming to ps? I know smurfs is a joke, but are snorks a joke too?

Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Kieve on November 18, 2007, 01:21:12 am
Google it, Listbard. Trust me, self-discovery is the path to true knowledge. ;)

So... just for the record, anyone tossing a vote into Smurf or Snorks is exempt from the [actual] vote total, right? (As of this count, 26 useful opinions)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Anumesa on November 18, 2007, 01:22:23 am
Hehehe Klyros Female definately...its just awkward as it is currently.

Especially if i forget to read their description and call them SIR.

 :oops:
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Marqsaynt on November 18, 2007, 01:25:56 am
Dang it! Now I guess Xillix is never going to forgive me... For the record it was more about having the female models catch up with the male ones that are already available, not which ones I think are personally cooler/more interesting.

*imagines what it'd be like playing PS with Xillix's undying wrath*

---

Marqsaynt: Give me a quest.

Sharven: A quest? you want a quest? Shouldn't have voted for female ylians then.

*Sharven waves his arms casting a spell that turns you into a clacker.*

Sharven: Now Marqsaynt, you shall know what happens to a diaboli that messes with the Gods...

*Sharven summons a giant magical boot and with a flick of the wrist crushes the miserable clacker you.*

System Message: You have died! Regards from the Settings Team.

:P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Pizzasgood on November 18, 2007, 01:32:13 am
Female Klyros, or else one of the races that doesn't have any models.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Earl_Listbard on November 18, 2007, 01:38:40 am

Marqsaynt: Give me a quest.

Sharven: A quest? you want a quest? Shouldn't have voted for female ylians then.

rofl

You never cease to amuse me marqsaynt xD


But seriously, why female ylians? This only inspires skrietism.

A better thing to do is to make really, really ugly female character models, like... on the level of ylian males...


IE: limp (like ylian males) have disfigured faces (Like ylian males)

problem solved.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Aiwendil on November 18, 2007, 01:44:35 am
Diaboli female...I really want to have a tail.  ;)
Nah, serious, I think any improvements for a race without a model would be fine.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 18, 2007, 01:49:45 am
Why the crap do people want Ylian females and Klyros females...? Ylian females actually have a normal-looking model as it is, they're fine...and all the Klyros are meant to look the same, there's no reason to change them anymore than they are now. ._.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Earl_Listbard on November 18, 2007, 01:53:06 am
no... you see klyros don't follow the rule about reptiles... they have... dare I say it? Breasts, meaning they are nursing creatures, which means females should be endowed.


A little adult, but I guess thats what our community wants now isn't it? :P


And yeah im clueless as to whats the rage of female ylians, it is diaboli males that need updating :P IMO they're a lot more eventful then ylians.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Under the moon on November 18, 2007, 01:53:47 am
Aeshion is a female Diaboli. Nough said.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 18, 2007, 01:53:51 am
Thank you Earl...I'd hug you if I could, we need Diaboli males! Go Diaboli. :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Duraza on November 18, 2007, 01:55:02 am
Of course I would go diaboli, its like my all time favorite race.

I really want to have a tail.  ;)

Me too, I try to think about it when I rp but never actually remember it  ;D
If it wasn't for diaboli being there though I would definately go for smurfs, they are way better than snorks.

Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 18, 2007, 01:56:07 am
lmao Duraza >.<
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Arerano on November 18, 2007, 02:19:03 am
It was too hard a desicion between Smurfs and Snorks which would give something completely new to PS.

Since I was unable to decide between the one or the latter, I reconsidered and came to the conclusion that either female Diaboli or female Klyros would give a good addition to the current state. Thus goes my vote to female Diaboli.
 ;D
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 18, 2007, 02:58:13 am
I voted for the one that pushes Xil's buttons the most, because I can.   That, and my opinion is that everything will be made in due time and I'm patient, so I don't really care wish one comes first.  Oh, and Xil must know how 1337 I be. rar
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Eodun on November 18, 2007, 03:01:10 am
Male diaboli!

Nothing to do with my character being one... well, perhaps a bit. But I want horns and wings XD
As a side note, that remembers me I have a pending issue with "describe you and your character" thread :p

BTW, I can't believe snorks are unknown... perhaps I'm growing old :(
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Earl_Listbard on November 18, 2007, 03:01:47 am
Diaboli don't have wings xD
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 18, 2007, 03:02:39 am
they do if they "barrow" them from another race that does.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: bilbous on November 18, 2007, 04:55:28 am
I don't believe snorks ever made it to Canada but I have never paid for programming so might have missed it. I have no vote as I do not really care which gets developed although I do have an aquatic elf that I never play that could benefit from a toon.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Hatchnet on November 18, 2007, 08:18:00 am
Ok I admit it; I voted for Smurfs in order to be funny. What surprises me was I wasn't the only one who did it  ;D
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Hilon on November 18, 2007, 08:55:59 am
This has to be the most amusing poll so far.  Kudos, Xillix.

I was torn between smurfs and snorks until I came to my senses.  Then, I thought how nice it would be to finally see some Hammerwielder models so that they can stop using OUR MODEL!!   :P  But, I finally settled on the female Klyros since those poor Klyros have had gender issues for long enough already.   ;D
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Durwyn on November 18, 2007, 11:51:15 am
Durwyn hands out the link to a Stonebreaker Female who can't even sit down...her name is Lelerey!

[btw, Stonebreaker females have been forgotten on the poll, ...there is nothing i can vote on ! :P ^^]
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Lanarel on November 18, 2007, 12:40:00 pm
I see many people agreeing that races without any model need votes, but it seems they then still vote for females of existing races :). Is Lanarel the only Xacha in game, bored by being seen as a noob Ylian because he does not wear his armor all the time and isn't in a guild? Actually, never mind. If you would make a Xacha model without many attractive females added at the same time, all noobs would become Xachas. Can I change my vote for smurfs?
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Myriel on November 18, 2007, 02:47:59 pm
I'm all for Nolthrir females. Klyros females would be good, too, but at least they already look like Klyros. And Nolthrir would finally be a race that has the female model first ;D
Further, I'd like to see textures for female Dermorian leather armor. I think they still can't dress properly...
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Parallo on November 18, 2007, 04:44:21 pm
Xacha. Its got to be Xacha. Although the Lemur are pretty cool.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 18, 2007, 05:41:42 pm
please god female klyros, im fed up of been called sir ^^
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 18, 2007, 06:01:24 pm
But...but...devil-race! :(
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 18, 2007, 06:10:07 pm
.. no common klyros i mean who wouldent want this in game? eh?
(http://www.planeshift.it/graphics/races/klyros.gif)
                                                                                          ^
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Zan on November 18, 2007, 06:57:34 pm
I hereby declare that Smurfs and Snorks are nicknames for male Nolthrirs ... putting them tied with female Ylians for second place!

No seriously now, since I'm a guy who ... yes this might come over as shocking for some of you ... prefers to stick to his own gender with characters, I prefer male characters being developed. Then considering that my first character created, Zan, is Nolthrir I obviously can't wait for him to actually look like himself and not some pink elvish pansy. :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: ThomPhoenix on November 18, 2007, 07:02:22 pm
Diaboli. I have the same problem as Duraza, I always forget I have a tail :D
It'd be nice to have a new model, but the downside will be that every 1337 person out there will create a Diaboli model. It was the same when the Klyros where introduced, there suddenly was an invasion of that race.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Jeraphon on November 18, 2007, 09:33:07 pm
Quote
I don't believe snorks ever made it to Canada but I have never paid for programming so might have missed it.

I'm Canadian and I used to watch the Snorks...no idea what channel they were on though.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: ThomPhoenix on November 18, 2007, 09:46:34 pm
Ah, now I remember the Snorks. I used to watch it, fun stuff.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Leama on November 18, 2007, 09:51:42 pm
I am a female Stonebreaker and I would love to be able to sit. My legs are killing me. Maybe I could even unbraid my hair too.

Thank you Xillix
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Duraza on November 19, 2007, 01:04:55 am
Diaboli. I have the same problem as Duraza, I always forget I have a tail :D

I knew I couldn't be the only one out there with that problem  \\o//

there suddenly was an invasion of that race.

Eh they will come, invade the race, and then eventually die out. No real stopping it as its the same anytime anything new is introduced to the game (or just about any game for that fact), like winch or crafting  :P Just the way things are I guess.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Raa on November 19, 2007, 03:32:33 am
I voted for the female Klyros for, um, several obvious reasons... If it weren't for that, I'd vote the Diaboli thing, since it really confuzzles me. The annoying thing about beta is that we have to double-click on someone to make sure what they really are. There was this one time when my character was talking to a Klyros and I referred to the Klyros as a "he", and then she went ballistic on me.  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Ravenguard on November 19, 2007, 06:10:13 am
Really, just any of the above races that don't have one model of their own.  So... uh... Xacha, Diaboli... uh... etc.  My brain hurts, just fyi.

Oh, and why... well...
Oh why bother.
*goes and slouches in the corner*
*points with his non-damaged arm at the computer*
Away you.

Note:  Marvin is awesome.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 19, 2007, 09:20:46 am
There was this one time when my character was talking to a Klyros and I referred to the Klyros as a "he", and then she went ballistic on me.  :sweatdrop:

Heheh most almost centrly probabbly me
Iv gone a :@#\ frenzy :@#\ on many for than infact i belive iv killed someone for it too  :@#\

hmmm...
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25446.0;wap2 (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25446.0;wap2)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on November 19, 2007, 12:59:22 pm
Lemurs. Both. For Verrliit's sake. ;)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 19, 2007, 01:04:10 pm
Verrliit, last I heard, is on a vacation or something...hard to tell if she's coming back. =/
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Izzabella on November 19, 2007, 04:04:23 pm
male Diaboli for the win!  \o/

And Marqsaynt you make me laugh!

[Edit fixed my spelling error, happy now? :P also fixed my plural, man you people are picky, don't you have anything thing else to do :P]
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Liadan on November 19, 2007, 08:20:23 pm
Why not shoot to have the top 3 voted for done? Or at least done in that order according to the poll? (and where is the see results without voting option?)


edit: after making three different characters, I am personally sick of staring at a ynnwn's backside when its supposed to be Lemur, So i say make lemur models...please with a cherry on top?
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: ThomPhoenix on November 19, 2007, 08:23:01 pm
male diablo's for the win!  \o/

And Marqsaynt you make me laugh!
It's Diaboli, not diablo ;)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on November 19, 2007, 08:33:39 pm
If "Diaboli" was the singular, what would be the plural then?!
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Under the moon on November 19, 2007, 08:44:30 pm
I use Diaboli for single and plural. Diabolia (or Bolia) for females, and Diabolin (rarely) for males.
/me ponders other races.

Klyren and Klyres?
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Xolani on November 19, 2007, 10:08:57 pm
I wonder when the day my Lemur's model will be changed from an elf to an actual male Lemur. I don't really mind the wait as long as the reason for it is to make the Lemur's model kick ass. My 2nd vote would be Xacha, both genders preferably because they really need a model. Woot Lemurs!
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Izzabella on November 20, 2007, 04:29:53 am
okay anyone that knows me..knows I can't spell :P and that actually was not a spelling mistake so much as it was a typo  so yeah...
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Huget on November 20, 2007, 05:08:02 am
Wrong:
okay anyone that knows me..knows I can't spell :P and that actually was not a spelling mistake so much as it was a typo  so yeah...
Right: "...knows that I can't spell..." use correct grammer please  ;D

My vote is diablo because I didn't realize they had tails and horns, sweet! [ ;D typo]
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Izzabella on November 20, 2007, 04:12:29 pm
/me gives up.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 25, 2007, 01:41:15 am
(http://www.geocities.com/kittykatkrist/PlaneShift/skins/klyrosf4.jpg)(http://www.geocities.com/kittykatkrist/PlaneShift/skins/klyrosf5.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/kittykatkrist/PlaneShift/skins/klyrosf6.jpg)

eheh
[taken from http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=13933.0]
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Raa on November 25, 2007, 02:27:34 am
?

They don't work.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 25, 2007, 02:45:31 am
Hey that's not fair...Female Klyros and Female Ylian didn't have male additions to go with them in the polls, Diaboli polls were split into both male and female...add both the male and female Diaboli votes together so we can be up there with the one-gender wonders. :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 25, 2007, 02:49:31 am
?

They don't work.

what doesent work?

the pictures?
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 25, 2007, 02:51:38 am
Hey that's not fair...Female Klyros and Female Ylian didn't have male additions to go with them in the polls

thats because there are skins already made for those in game.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 25, 2007, 02:53:12 am
Doesn't mean we can't ask for additions to those skins, does it? I still completely despise male Ylian hair, for example...it looks like a leather hat, or a wig. =/
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 25, 2007, 02:54:28 am
only enkis get multiple skins because everyone loves kitteh.

you can't say no to ketteh.

ketteh own your sole.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Suno_Regin on November 25, 2007, 02:57:28 am
Way to be racist? :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: One and only tanner on November 25, 2007, 03:12:37 am
i say who cares about you other guys(n gals) we want female klyros!/me starts to scan the web for forum account creation macros and to order them to vote for female klyros
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Kieve on November 26, 2007, 03:02:00 pm
I think when this is over, I'm going to end up loaning Xillix some incendiary supplies.
So many possibilities to pick from, and yet human girls are on top.
*sigh*
How... uninspiring.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Liadan on November 26, 2007, 03:09:36 pm
well, with there being a lot of fenkis around, we (female Ylians) need something to help us stand out from the crowd and attract some male species and make up for the lack of being exotic.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 26, 2007, 03:22:11 pm
thou doth voted for smurfs to put thine over top of snorks shall face my firey wrath.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Waylander on November 26, 2007, 03:25:53 pm
It's a pity.  Aelya was considering coming back if the diaboli female was chosen.  Ah, but, such is life.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Liadan on November 26, 2007, 03:37:27 pm
Curious: what happens to the character when a new model is implemented with more options than when we first created the character? Will we see an option when first using that character after teh addition is made to make changes? or will we get stuck and have to create a new char to see what cool options the new model has?
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Caarrie on November 26, 2007, 03:41:50 pm
Curious: what happens to the character when a new model is implemented with more options than when we first created the character? Will we see an option when first using that character after teh addition is made to make changes? or will we get stuck and have to create a new char to see what cool options the new model has?

if a new skin gets put in all chars of that race take it on, for now no one can change other features unless they remake their char.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Dajoji on November 26, 2007, 03:50:16 pm
I remember when all fenkis where black-furred and then they all turned white after an update. :sorcerer:
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on November 26, 2007, 03:55:38 pm
It already happened to the male Dermorians: Their models got improved, but somehow body specifics (like tribal tattoos) were not kept. So one of my alts lost his green tattoo, and the answer I got was "What a pity, but we can't help".
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on November 26, 2007, 04:47:32 pm
i find it interesting that there has been more votes cast for the throw away categories (snorks, smurfs) than for the lemurs.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Liadan on November 26, 2007, 04:52:30 pm
the name lemur is somewhat misleading. Perhaps I am the only one who thought this, but when I saw it was a race, the only image that came to mind was the lemurs from the movie Madgascar...

Not to mention the reason why most people play games is to be a warrior. Lemurs don't strike me as being a warring race.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on November 26, 2007, 04:54:40 pm
Could be that some people prefer having a *different* opinion over having an *own*.  :P

And indeed, Lemurs in Yliakum don't need to look like prosimians.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: SerqFeht on November 26, 2007, 04:57:16 pm
i find it interesting that there has been more votes cast for the throw away categories (snorks, smurfs) than for the lemurs.

Maybe some people really want to be blue, or whatever color snorks happen to be. A lot of people vote before reading that those 2 aren't really counted. I voted for Snorks, to be honest, before reading
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Liadan on November 26, 2007, 05:19:50 pm
Could be that some people prefer having a *different* opinion over having an *own*.  :P

And indeed, Lemurs in Yliakum don't need to look like prosimians.

OR they just felt like not being serious and voting for them anyways.

Humans ...*shakes her head*...nonsensical creatures. ;)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Mesmer on April 18, 2009, 08:41:30 pm
Lemurs (female).
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Pelinal on April 21, 2009, 11:23:52 pm
Nolthrir Male
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: StitchedChin on April 22, 2009, 09:58:20 pm
Only Klyros Females if there is suppose to be some distinguishing difference between the Males and Females...  Otherwise we'll just have to keep saying, oh sorry, I didn't realize you were a woman...  Nolthrir Male seems like a close second since the women got a rework.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Dermathil on April 22, 2009, 10:04:18 pm
I voted for Female Klyros.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: ravenrise on April 23, 2009, 01:09:19 am
seeing that list of males and female pairs must make kran lonely.
Anyways I'm not telling who I voted for(mostly because I forgot) Personally I didn't care anyways. as long as one of the models was added I'm a happy
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: neko kyouran on April 23, 2009, 03:03:57 pm
if Kran get lonely, they just go make more of them selves!

;-)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Xemmas on April 26, 2009, 04:11:34 am
I would like to see the klyros females... and the hammerwielders, would be nice to see the difference between dwarf races...
**/me whispers "and some pants"**  ;)
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Gravemind on April 27, 2009, 10:54:43 am
I voted for klyros female, but diaboli would have been my second option, as any alts I make are diaboli because they're the second coolest race. If diaboli had wings they would pwn anything. :P
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Zalera13 on June 12, 2009, 11:02:19 am
The poor klyros female, im so sick of not knowing if there a female and calling them Sir. and the stonebreaker females make them able to sit.......so tired of them complaning about that, and last the lemur so many races look like dermorians.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on June 12, 2009, 11:21:35 am
As far as I know, the "cute" Stonebreaker females (Karyuu FTW!) are already able to sit.

And most players of female Klyros already know that thes should add a note into their character descriptions (and indeed, "Tanner" and "Eckar" don't sound female). So next time you meet an unknown Klyros, "look at" them! (Right-click or "/targetinfo"), they might tell you what you can hardly see.
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: Bajazag on June 12, 2009, 02:36:21 pm
..ahem...player race?   :-X
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: LigH on June 12, 2009, 03:23:12 pm
Character race, of course.

There may be lemurs being able to play PlaneShift - but I doubt you will find Klyros outside of Ohm. :D
Title: Re: Race Poll
Post by: PhoenixRizin on June 12, 2009, 03:45:29 pm
I voted Ylian female just to have a human female model for use.

The Diaboli (male and female) and Lemur (male and female) would be my next choices.

Also, I think all the Klyros needs right now is to take the male model and give it a feminine shape (smaller shoulders and wider hips) and walk (perhaps borrowed from another race if its possible). Nothing else has to change. And since they lay eggs, they dont need chest enhancements.