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Title: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Leama on November 29, 2007, 12:46:16 pm
What aspect of the game do you like the least? 
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Kieve on November 30, 2007, 03:32:25 pm
Well this is a quiet thread...

Graphical Issues & Glitches.
There, I said it. I [hate] that every time I go out in the wilds, I walk over broken-obsidian polygonal SHARDS just because I happen to have an Intel graphics card. That gets old very fast, and makes the long hikes between Oja / Hydlaa / BD even more odious for the lack of good scenery.

...none too fond of the leveling/PP mechanics either, but that's been discussed to death, I think.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: wolfspirit on November 30, 2007, 04:00:22 pm
Though sometimes what seems to be not a popular comment with some dev's "elder" players..but..I agree..the graphics..it seems to be that issue amoung others..that has driven some players/would be players..away from our growing world...making it seem the idea of the dev's/setting team or whoever makes the decision would be to make our world more "pretty" instead of more "playable"...instead of working so hard on adding beauty to the world..why not solve the bugs..and unimplimented items first?...just an option :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: neko kyouran on November 30, 2007, 04:16:49 pm
The art team that is responsible for making all the pretties isn't the same as the coding team that is responsible for the code and fixing of bugs and stuffs.  So if we had the art team just stop making pretties while waiting on coding bugs to be fixed, the art team would get bored.  And a bored art team is bad.  Soooo, they both work on projects and things and things get added and fixed when they do.  :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Kieve on November 30, 2007, 06:03:09 pm
Yeah, pretty much.
As for things that don't work or are 'least favorite' - I think it should be pretty well understood at this point (as often as it's been said already) that PS is still a work in progress, things are always being updated, fixed, added, and made better. Until we hit 1.0, detracting comments always have that unspoken caveat of 'until it's fixed/improved.' I don't expect the Intel issues will continue through to the final version.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Liadan on November 30, 2007, 06:40:51 pm
aspect? you're going to have to be more specific than that, like IC or OOC....

Game design or mechanics....?
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Leama on November 30, 2007, 06:49:33 pm
Liadan,

You may write an answer to all the above mentioned questions, game design, mechanics, about the character creation, etc. I am just interested in what people think as long as they stay on topic.

Leama.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Zan on November 30, 2007, 07:24:32 pm
The progression system, it's still based too much on grinding for my tastes.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Aiwendil on November 30, 2007, 08:16:38 pm
What I like the least? That's simple for me, I really hate it when I run out of trais and have to earn some. I tried different ways to earn some trias, but no possibility pleases me. Most methods are uncommunicative and boring. And I know that this will change in the future (at least I hope ;)), but at the moment it's the part of PS that I like the least
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: zorbels on November 30, 2007, 09:10:18 pm
Crashing.  >:( (Not blaming anyone though. I am being patient, one day my dreams of not crashing will come true.)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Waylander on November 30, 2007, 09:56:47 pm
Having 150-200 people online and only about ten of them being capable of decent RolePlay :P

Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Raa on November 30, 2007, 11:05:35 pm
I absolutely HATE not having a fair amount of trees. What, have none that devolop PlaneShift ever seen a forest? Are they incapable of it? I basically live in a humongous forest, and I REALLY want to see some woods that you can actually go into. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRR.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Zan on November 30, 2007, 11:26:36 pm
/me waits for Marqsaynt to come in here and answer: "Waylander!" :P
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Duraza on November 30, 2007, 11:41:27 pm
The things I don't like are:
The pvp system
The leveling system
The amount of people that actually roleplay (I don't care whether your bad at it because you can get better, I just want more people)

The rest of it when it comes to glitches, graphics, beta, etc I really don't mind to tell the truth. For me if those 3 things changed this game would be much more intresting to me  :P
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Marqsaynt on December 01, 2007, 12:09:31 am
Hmm, I'd have to say the often seemingly slow progression of the game. There are so many things I can't wait to see implemented and at times it at least feels like it's moving ahead at a snail's pace.

Not pointing fingers, or being impatient (doubt someone without patience would hang around for as long as I have :P) or even hinting that all the people working on PS aren't already giving 110% but, if there was one thing I could magically change, it wouldn't be the bugs (since those should disappear with development) but, just the rate that PS adds new things... though definitely not at the cost of quality. :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Lanarel on December 01, 2007, 12:14:17 am
I absolutely HATE not having a fair amount of trees. What, have none that devolop PlaneShift ever seen a forest? Are they incapable of it? I basically live in a humongous forest, and I REALLY want to see some woods that you can actually go into. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRR.
Trees, that is like really long grass isn't it? :) Look how well most people liked that./me imagines raa walking through a forest in slow motion
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: ThomPhoenix on December 01, 2007, 12:25:03 am
The grass is only slow because it's rendered in real time when you walk around. Meshes and textures are preloaded. A forest surely wouldn't be rendered like grass.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: neko kyouran on December 01, 2007, 12:33:07 am
if it can be done here:  http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&7.3519#653

it can be done here:  www.planeshift.it

just may take a little time is all
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Raa on December 01, 2007, 12:38:41 am
I'd like that.

 :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Dihenis on December 01, 2007, 12:43:17 am
apart from the things already mentioned like the leveling system, I hate how it takes so much of my time :). I need to do homework and by then its already sucked up a couple hours. that's probably mostly my fault, so another thing i don't like is how people teach RP. I've made a character and acted like I don't know how to RP and so far the answers were less then satisfactory. I know that you cannot really teach people to RP, but you can help them start off by coming up with a story with them, or at least telling the person to come up with a backround for their character.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Xanthan on December 01, 2007, 03:32:14 am
What I like least:  Boring monsters and NPCs.  By which I mean they mostly spawn in one place, don't move or undertake actions on their own, or act with any variation or intelligence.  Some don't move at all.

A close second is how everything is about money.  This is a modern real-world way of thinking and organizing things.  It makes little sense in a Medieval-like world.  The main issue here is the way you need to make money to progress in any endeavor.  Rather than doing something for a trainer directly you instead have to spend hours in the arena "sword mining" to make enough tria to train.

One way to fix this might be to update the quest system so that it is possible to get training in a specific skill as a reward.

Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Suvok on December 01, 2007, 06:26:27 am
The progression system. Why do the trainers need to know how many damn rats and trepors you've killed just to teach you how to craft?

Oh, and n00bs  :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: SerqFeht on December 01, 2007, 07:53:36 am
Oh, and n00bs  :)

I see those 3 'help newbie' threads have been extra productive  ;D

I think either graphics or roleplaying. I like seeing the grass, but it is soooo slow, and hopefully this can be fixed someday.

 For the roleplaying: Maybe you could make a weird new window where people that want to roleplay can sign up their names, like a group kind of thing. Whenever I feel like doing something, I can't find anyone doing an rp, and if I do, it's just Anarkia and Skreit in the inn room I 'rented' at Kada-Els. I'm still unsure what they were doing, but I got screenshots.  ::|
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Liadan on December 01, 2007, 08:16:50 am
The progression system. Why do the trainers need to know how many damn rats and trepors you've killed just to teach you how to craft?

Oh, and n00bs  :)


don't hate on us noobs...you have to give us some credit for jumping into the deep-end when all we can do is doggie-paddle...


what aspect? Probably the difficult in getting started with a new character. Unless you remember were all the 'good' quests are, you're stuck wallowing in filth until you get a half-decent combat skill (level 3+) so you can go pick on something bigger and better.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Anumesa on December 01, 2007, 08:20:46 am
Kinda have to agree with the monsters thing. Though the Ulbers have started running lately which is fun  ;D

What can i say, its late. Goodnight.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Tuxide on December 01, 2007, 10:27:22 am
The forums.  Too many whiney people on it.  Which is why I stick to the IRC channel.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on December 01, 2007, 10:38:12 am
The impatience.

The fix it now attitude.

The self importance.

The lack of support many ps players display outside of planeshift.

The hours.

The ingratitude.

The adult consumers of the game capable but unwilling to contribute.

Asshats.

The fact that I get cursed at by players from time to time.

People who do not use the bug tracker.

People who use ps to further external agendas.

Lack of engagement with settings.

The leet attitude toward new players in game.

People who will not read.

Having to pick one least favorite aspect.

Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Rongar Elani on December 01, 2007, 12:29:50 pm
I also say the forums. There is a lack of patience, maturity and foremost respect since Karyuu left and now it's a somewhat inhospital place.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: RoberetGoldsmith on December 01, 2007, 03:33:45 pm


      hmmm Being dissconnected every 20 minutes  or so , as some other may know. :P
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Leama on December 01, 2007, 04:25:06 pm
Xillix,

I am the first to admit that I know nothing of what you do but I am the first to say I appreciate all you do.

Leama is sad I started this thread. I thought it would be beneficial to you. Sorry .
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Kieve on December 01, 2007, 04:33:41 pm
There's this awesome Chinese buffet place just down the road from where I work, so I do a lot of take-out.
Naturally, a fortune cookie is always involved (last night's read "Next time, order the shrimp").
My favorite of all time - and I had this one laminated and stuck to our MPS's monitor - read:
"We do three kinds of jobs - quick, cheap, and good."
Personally, I'll pick "good" every time, no question.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Phinehas on December 03, 2007, 07:48:36 pm
The mechanics and the settings... :P

The mechanics obviously only because they're still being worked on...

The settings because, well... some of them are just weird... I mean, I'm all for originality, but a giant stalactite with a crystal in the top? I know that certain people agree with me, some of the people who find that the farther you get into it, the more holes there are that have to be covered up essentially by ignoring them or glazing over them with highly improbably explanations. I know it's fantasy, but it'd make the suspension of reality easier if it was a little more believable.

Also glyphs. Not that there's anything wrong with them per se, I just find them awkward and severely limiting of the way I'd like to RP Phinehas. But that's a personal preference and not an actual problem.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Xanthan on December 04, 2007, 04:32:35 am
Leama and Xillix, I hope you are not too upset with responses here.  When they are posted in the spirit of constructive criticism I think this is a very important question to have answered.  In any endeavor it is your weaknesses that hold you back, and you will move forwards the most by identifying them and working on them.  I learned that in sports and the arts, and I think it is true for anything.  In planeshift, we may generally as a community know what these weaknesses are, but this discussion could actually a good way to help prioritize what to work on next that will most improve the game.  We all know it's a work in progress and that much great work has been done to get to where we are.  Hopefully postings here will be made and received in the positive spirit that I'm sure Leama intended.  I certainly saw the question as following in the spirit of the excellent polls that Xillix has posted recently, which I think are a great idea.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: neko kyouran on December 04, 2007, 04:55:21 am
part of the game i like the least? 

no on sent little old me any cookies yet.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Zan on December 04, 2007, 11:16:49 am
Prod the Devs into making cooking and baking available, then you get all the cookies you want I bet!
/me would give Neko a cookie but he didn't have breakfast yet so he ate them all :-[
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: theirah on December 04, 2007, 11:22:31 am
/me hands out imaginary cookies to everyone

hope they taste alright ;p

as for least favorite...I'd say the attitude I've seen from some against "powerlevelers". I know that this game is focused on the RPG part of MMORPG, but shouldnt everyone be welcome to the game? I started out as a powerleveler simply because I didnt know what role-playing was. I joined a guild that many defined as OoC (they acted on what the guild defined as rp, but was controversial to others), but it was what kept me in planeshift long enough to learn about role-playing.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on December 04, 2007, 07:18:02 pm
My answer is just as constructive and given in the same positive constructive sense. In this thread and all others I am readying what players think and constantly making adjustments to the game, or advocating having them made. One thing I think is constantly forgotten is that if I give any individual personally what they have requested someone else complains of it. "what is your least favorite favorite aspect of the game?" Is highly subjective and perspective oriented.

Phinehas thinks the settings as a whole are unbelievable, others in the the opposite thread leama posted have identified settings as their favorite aspect. No one should think that just because I list my complaints as well that I do not value their imput. I may argue vehemently with you but so long as the argument is kept civil and there is no trollishness going on I will not only hear you but do my best to forward your ideas to the other devs.

There seems to be an expectation of service that is unrealistic relative to the means of the game. Time and time again I have appealed to the community for many things and found them fall on deaf ears or seen only some minor response for a few parties. While I thank those who do respond to such appeals, I think there needs to be greater give and take. If you have never tried to keep a couple hundred of your favorite people happy, you probably will never understand the difficulties involved in deving for planeshift.

I only get shrill when the devs are accused of not caring, or not working fast enough, or being mean, or cruel. A lot of this is going around both within and outside PS and I would like to be able to count on the player community to help with this.

I should have at no point given any cause for anyone to think they are not listened to. Like Karyuu, I have done my best to interact with the player community, sharing information, answering questions and forwarding views, and like Karyuu I have take much heat for doing so.

Notice also this thread, "what is your least favorite aspect . . . " has more posts than its opposite, think about how that reflects on the community in the eyes of the devs.

Keep up the discussion . . .
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Leama on December 04, 2007, 07:47:22 pm
Whenever a thread is posted, one never knows what will become of it. I asked these two questions in hopes to hear what other players had to say of course because it is important to me. I also left these two topics WIDE open so that they could be answered in anyway a person wished too. Honestly I thought the “What do you like the most?” would have gotten many more responses then this one. Please I ask for all of you to answer this as honestly as you can but remember there are people, hard working people, that make this game what it is for your enjoyment. Maybe people could ‘say thank you’ to those how have given so much. So then with that in mind, I ask again “What aspect do you like the least?”

Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Zan on December 04, 2007, 10:17:00 pm
My answer is just as constructive and given in the same positive constructive sense. In this thread and all others I am readying what players think and constantly making adjustments to the game, or advocating having them made. One thing I think is constantly forgotten is that if I give any individual personally what they have requested someone else complains of it. "what is your least favorite favorite aspect of the game?" Is highly subjective and perspective oriented.

That is why polls are good, they give you a majority vote. And we all know the majority wins .. unless the Devs decide not to listen to the majority. :P

Some people will always have unrealistic expectations because they tend to think of themselves first. I for one respect what the devs do and I respect what you and Karyuu try a great deal. It's not easy doing PR and interacting with the players because there will always be negative feedback, often immature one too, involved. A part of being in charge is being the first one that gets blamed for anything undesirable.
/me thinks of something ...
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: theirah on December 04, 2007, 10:40:37 pm
In response to that, the devs have done great! I'm having trouble keeping 5 people happy in my chess club ;p
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Induane on December 04, 2007, 10:50:48 pm
I personally dislike the guild system the most.  This is purely a mechanics bit.  It is too rigid and inflexible.  Even the guild system in Molecular Blue was a bit more flexible.  More specifically I would prefer to have a bit more freedom to specify ranks, number of ranks, and sub-ranks perhaps as well as bringing back the old MB ability for more than one person to hold the highest position in a guild. In its early days our guild was run by a triumvirate which meant leadership was shared among 3 people.  In MB this was possible, CB it was not.  They also seem too specific.  Many guilds (including CoV) aren't really guilds at all exactly, but an organization of sorts so it would be nice to be able to found something besides a guild instead of making all organizations lump themselves into the guild framework along with the expectations that go with it.


IMO There are two important things:

1.) You should be able to categorize your organization as a guild or as something else.

2.) Hierarchy should be flexible.  It should be possible to have a variety of ranks and sub ranks so that a leader of a specific department of a guild could specify some sub-ranks within the realms of their department.  Example:

Rank1
Rank2
--Sub1
--Sub2
--Sub3
--Sub4
Rank3
--Sub1
--Sub2
Rank4
--Sub1
--Sub2
---Sub1a
---Sub2a
---Sub3a
--Sub3
--Sub4
Rank5


Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Kulrok on December 05, 2007, 04:45:45 am
The biased local forum whiners who can't handle any constructive criticism of the game or anything other than its euphoric praise. :)
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Under the moon on December 05, 2007, 06:06:28 am
Anything I cannot incorporate into my roleplaying without glazing something over. :)

And Enkis. :P
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Jeraphon on December 05, 2007, 07:11:41 am
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And Enkis.

First time we agree on something?

Well, okay, it's unfair for me to say that I like enkis the least. It's probably just the way a lot of players latch on to enkis and ask for more cultural development of their race when they probably have more than the other 11 combined right now. Yes, we get it, they're furry and omg kawai!!11 ^_^ but the enki-centrism needs to slow down.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Phinehas on December 05, 2007, 07:13:45 am
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And Enkis.

First time we agree on something?

Well, okay, it's unfair for me to say that I like enkis the least. It's probably just the way a lot of players latch on to enkis and ask for more cultural development of their race when they probably have more than the other 11 combined right now. Yes, we get it, they're furry and omg kawai!!11 ^_^ but the enki-centrism needs to slow down.
I heartily support that sentiment. And the other one offered by Mooney in his last post.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Sangwa on December 05, 2007, 01:36:02 pm
How the PS Team manages role play. There's really little to no interest in regulating role playing between players from their part.

GM's should play normal characters, include themselves in role plays and right every wrong where spotted, to clear confusion and incoherent role play at its root. Of course the setting being a bit inconsistent is also troublesome.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Waylander on December 05, 2007, 03:21:10 pm
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And Enkis.

First time we agree on something?

Well, okay, it's unfair for me to say that I like enkis the least. It's probably just the way a lot of players latch on to enkis and ask for more cultural development of their race when they probably have more than the other 11 combined right now. Yes, we get it, they're furry and omg kawai!!11 ^_^ but the enki-centrism needs to slow down.

Aye, let us start some Lemur-centrism.  They are much, much more interesting.

How the PS Team manages role play. There's really little to no interest in regulating role playing between players from their part.

GM's should play normal characters, include themselves in role plays and right every wrong where spotted, to clear confusion and incoherent role play at its root. Of course the setting being a bit inconsistent is also troublesome.

And the settings isn't inconsistent, it's unrevealed.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Mordraugion on December 05, 2007, 04:25:29 pm
How the PS Team manages role play. There's really little to no interest in regulating role playing between players from their part.
Without 24/7/365 GM cover this would be well nigh impossible

GM's should play normal characters, include themselves in role plays and right every wrong where spotted, to clear confusion and incoherent role play at its root.

I do play normal chars but have you tried doing that yourself? Firstly it is extremely disruptive to the roleplay we're supposedly trying to encourage secondly I play for fun to relax and enjoy myself if I spend all my time correcting others my chars would never develop
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Zan on December 05, 2007, 04:37:05 pm
Sangwa has a point, however I think the main reason for the problem is the fact that Devs have so much work to do that they are often oblivious to the in-game situation. Definitely not an attack on them because I like the work they do. :P Maybe some sort of PR Dev team could help in this area though? People on the team, with access to what's going on behind the screens that just play and test the community and report the effects of community changes with a professional attitude, not the type of comments that are thrown around in this forum. :P I'd gladly volunteer for such a task by the way.

Mordraugion, I understand that 24/7 GM cover is impossible but I do think that whatever we can get is still better than nothing at all. To be honest the GM events I encounter rarely give a contribution to roleplay. They're all about the rewards. Last time I tried my very best to disrupt a prayer to Laanx in one of those events. As a Dakkru Fanatic it was in my character's nature. Mostly I was ignored, despite being against Laanx in his own temple, but I do remember the answer from one character that I managed to tick off very clearly.

"After this is over, we'll meet again and I'll kill you."

Which only goes to show that the characters don't act naturally with these events at all, they only care about finishing them nicely and getting rewards. anyways I'm ranting again so I'll shush now. Just saying, Sangwa has a point.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Sangwa on December 05, 2007, 04:40:23 pm
And the settings isn't inconsistent, it's unrevealed.

I can only point at what I see.


Without 24/7/365 GM cover this would be well nigh impossible
Not true. You don't need to play everyday to know what players are doing around the game. You just need to play. In fact, you just need to spend a minute asking around about what is happening. From there it's merely a matter of keeping an eye from time to time and demonstrating availability.


I do play normal chars but have you tried doing that yourself? Firstly it is extremely disruptive to the roleplay we're supposedly trying to encourage secondly I play for fun to relax and enjoy myself if I spend all my time correcting others my chars would never develop
When I say "normal characters" I mean playing other characters than GM chars (with max stats and such) or uber NPCs. I mean having a character that is a small part of the role play, like every other player character. That should be fun and it allows you to know what the other role players are doing around you. It should be easy then to notice people playing the Mind Sucking Dark Necromancer of Death and Decay.

I have no interest about your character's development. If you're a GM your fun should not come from developing characters but from making sure everyone else is developing theirs right and having a nice experience in PlaneShift.

Quote
I do play normal chars but have you tried doing that yourself?
What do you mean?
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on December 07, 2007, 03:20:43 pm
We are more linked into what the players are doing than any developers and gms in the history of gaming, of course that is not enough :P
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Liadan on December 07, 2007, 06:58:32 pm
Sangwa has a point, however I think the main reason for the problem is the fact that Devs have so much work to do that they are often oblivious to the in-game situation. Definitely not an attack on them because I like the work they do. :P Maybe some sort of PR Dev team could help in this area though? People on the team, with access to what's going on behind the screens that just play and test the community and report the effects of community changes with a professional attitude, not the type of comments that are thrown around in this forum. :P I'd gladly volunteer for such a task by the way.

PR or HR? Public Relations normally focuses on interaction between the public (read: outsiders) and the company (or game.) Human Resources/Relations normally deals with internal interaction...ie what you're suggesting. Although personally, i think that's a good idea and I would love to volunteer for it :) Oh and have a separate forum section for it...so you have opinion vs general IG sentiment reported  professionally. 
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: zorbels on December 07, 2007, 08:45:04 pm
Quote from: Xillix Queen of Fools
We are more linked into what the players are doing than any developers and gms in the history of gaming, of course that is not enough :P
/me chuckles

Of course not! Didn't you know Xillix, we also have rights to your first born. We Players expect to be kept up to date in what happens with your real life, with pictures to prove it. We as players are supposed to get an update as to what is going on with the game daily so that we can approve it or not.  Oh ya and you must work on the game as well as throw events for us players because we all know you guys have super powers. Oh and lets not forget you must boost the ego of the peoples on the forums and always tell them they are right.

[ ;D For those of you who don't have a sense of humor this was a joke. Not to be taken seriously :P]
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: backeroo on December 08, 2007, 10:26:38 pm
Hmm, interesting Question.......

Why don't you just have a look at the Wishlist to find out what the people really like to see and what not?

And on the other hand, what is the point in asking, as there is always the free-and-pre-alpha card to play if the players are not pleased with the game?
May we just can stick to the traditional method, of just throwing new features into the game ( ready or not ) and see how many Characters leave and how many stay?







Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Socius Rockus on December 08, 2007, 11:02:35 pm
Complainy people, I know I'm an example, My first post was I believe about the lack of avatars on the forum :P But I surpassed that stage. (I think  X-/ but can i think?)
Oh! And complain people that can't rest a case till they have won, while there is no point in winning.
Complainy people who are prejudged, or who can't accept they don't know everything.

Given the fact that all developers, artistic people, creators and other creators are semi-gods and not people, I come the the shocking conclusion that it is the (player)community (at some times) is the aspect of the game I like the least.  :oops:
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Phinehas on December 09, 2007, 02:43:35 am
Oh yes, and people who spam threads by complaining about other people complaining.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Waylander on December 09, 2007, 02:46:34 am
They aren't as bad as people who spam thread complainning about people who spam threads complaining about other people complaining.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Phinehas on December 09, 2007, 03:16:29 am
Yes, you are annoying.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Leama on December 09, 2007, 05:39:16 am
I absolutely hate how the players forget there is a real person behind the in game character and cruel they can be.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Phinehas on December 09, 2007, 06:22:28 am
I absolutely hate how the players forget there is a real person behind the in game character and cruel they can be.
That is true. On the other hand I'd have to point out that it's equally annoying when a player takes something said to or about their character personally. It sort of goes both ways.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Socius Rockus on December 09, 2007, 12:31:12 pm
Oh yes, and people who spam threads by complaining about other people complaining.
Uhuh, they fall under the complainy people.
Luckily liking something the least doesn't say one is complaining about it...  ::| Or else I was a complainy people too!
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Parallo on December 09, 2007, 01:48:03 pm
Liking something the least is not complaining. However, feeling the need to declare what you like the least is.
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Socius Rockus on December 09, 2007, 02:07:18 pm
Quote
a complaint is an expression of displeasure
  <-- cheap Wiki statement
Liking something the least doesn't always mean it's displeasure. Think of it as saying you like pie over cake, but you like cake too  ;) also a good complain should come with a solution.
/me ponders "I'm me, or I make bad complaints... Still I like chocolate milk over coffee"
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Parallo on December 09, 2007, 02:13:28 pm
So it is a fair statement then by that logic that you like people who complain?
Title: Re: What aspect of the game do you like the least?
Post by: Socius Rockus on December 09, 2007, 02:52:12 pm
Yes  :) , Of course there are exceptions from time to time ;)
I like them as part of the game, though the least ;)