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Title: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 19, 2008, 08:29:30 am
The Arcane Brotherhood (http://z15.invisionfree.com/Arcane_Brotherhood/index.php?)


Goals


Government:

Inner Circle: the inner circle is made up primarily of the Archwizards, although it is not unheard of for a Wizard to be a member. It is the core of the guild. It alone has the power to grant promotions. It has the ability to change guild structure or rules of the guild. Votes on promotions or other guild-related decisions are majority rules. Votes on demotions, promotions beyond what has been earned, changing of guild structure, or changing of guild rules must be unanimous. Overruling of a decision of the Outer Circle requires unanimity and at least three votes. In this way, if there are not at least three members of the Inner Circle, they cannot control the guild completely, thereby preventing dictatorship.

Outer Circle:
The Outer Circle is the general governing and lawmaking body of the guild. It meets once a month or, if necessary, a majority vote of the Inner Circle can call a meeting. It consists of all Archwizards, Wizards, and Mages. It decides major guild policies such as diplomacy, etc. It is also a place for regular reports of general information that is necessary for the entire guild to be aware of.


Hierarchy:
Archwizards: An Archwizard is considered to be of the most powerful and knowledgeable members of the guild, and hence in all of Yliakum. There are few Archwizards and they have a large say in the running of the guild.

Wizards: Wizards are members of the guild who have achieved relative independence. While still members of the guild and under it's authority, their studies and practices are no longer governed or watched over by those higher up. They have achieved a high level of proficiency and knowledge.

Mages: Mages are those members who have achieved a level of proficiency and independence so as to not require constant attention or tutoring. They are still directly under the authority of the Wizards and Archwizards, yet they are allowed to do as they wish for the most part.

Apprentices: Apprentices have made the step from being Initiates into a commitment to study. They are deciding what areas of study they will focus on and are being brought along by members of the higher ranks. They are still learning and depend heavily upon the support and guidance of those with more experience.

Initiates: Initiates are only beginning their studies of magic and their membership in the guild. Often they do not completely comprehend the extent of devotion and the commitment that intense study requires. They are simply testing the waters, deciding whether they have what it takes, and also being observed by the members of the guild.


For prospective members:
There two things we desire you to understand:


OOC Rules:
Phinehas will, at first, be in charge of maintaining the level of RP within the guild, this means that some rules and guidelines will be adhered to, and some understandings must be come to before you become a complete member of the guild.


A few other OOC notes and what-not:
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: hitancrias on January 19, 2008, 10:13:22 am
Looks well thought out, but I wouldn't expect anything less.
Good luck with finding good members!

Oh, and there's a typo, the first guild goal is mentioned twice.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 19, 2008, 10:18:18 am
Looks well thought out, but I wouldn't expect anything less.
Good luck with finding good members!

Oh, and there's a typo, the first guild goal is mentioned twice.
Thanks for the well-wishing, and thanks for the typo point out... I was mucking around with the formatting and must have missed that.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Marqsaynt on January 19, 2008, 10:50:25 am
Great, another noob starting a guild. ::)

About time there was another good attempt at a wizard guild. Glad you put this together, Phinehas. Under most circumstances I'd think your RP watchdog policy was a bit overkill but, having seen how outlandish some wizard RP can become, especially with newer characters, I'm actually glad to see some sort of system of accountability.

I was wondering about one thing though. I didn't see any real mention of how a member is expected to train magic, is it purely RP or does it also involve standard magic way training, or possibly a mix of both? Obviously, every member is expected to always RP and RP well, just curious what roll, if any, in-game mechanics will play in your vision of the guild. Basically, what standard are you using to say a character is "proficient" in the "Ways of Magic?"
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 19, 2008, 11:08:06 am
It will be mostly RP-oriented. People will be encouraged to use in-game mechanics, but not required to do so by any means. It's just problematic until magic is more powerful. It's unrealistic to level in-game by the use of only magic, so if you're a "pure" magic-wielder you have to go OOC and use a sword just to level up.

So to answer your question more directly, it will be mostly RP. That's also part of the reason for the stricter RP rules... There needs to be a balance between, "I will RP greater power than I actually have according to in-game mechanics," and, "I am god!" People will be encouraged, for instance, to RP their studies, and discouraged from simply having a backstory that conveniently provides them with awesome powers.

It'll take a bit of work to guide people to good RP in this area. Like you say, wizard RP can get weird or absurd quickly. I think I have enough experience to make it work, though. I have been RPing the same wizard for nearly all my four years here. In my mind, it's all about balance, which can be a subjective thing. Let's just say that you can be amazing at RP, but if you don't even own a glyph in-game or know how to cast even the simplest of spells, you'll be strongly discouraged from heightening your power in RP. On the other hand, just because you have a ton of time on your hands and don't mind bashing things with swords to level your magic in-game, doesn't mean that you have the RP quality to match your in-game power.

It's a difficult balance to find, but will definitely lean more towards RP until the game mechanics for magic become a little more realistic. I have no interest in making people spend say, four out the five hours they give to the game a week in leveling up just so that they can RP advancement in their characters. Also, even if they maxed their magic stats, they'd still get trounced by the first person with a sword to walk by, so...

Ooook... apparently you shouldn't get me started on these topics... :P Note to future posters... questions about magic RP will be answered... and then some.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Marqsaynt on January 19, 2008, 11:23:34 am
Very nice. I agree whole-heartedly and can't wait to see this guild concept put into action. May you succeed where other's have failed. :)
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Suvok on January 19, 2008, 11:46:46 am
Looks like I can't join then. Rabidia isn't going to worship herself.

Good luck with the guild. Sounds like it could work pretty well. I can't see a flaw...yet.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Zan on January 19, 2008, 11:51:01 am
I was going to give some criticism here but Marqsaynt already beat me to it ... Noobs shouldn't start guilds!

That being said, magic desperately needs some attention and love. I'm not certain about the latter but I'm confident that you'll improve the atmosphere, which I feel magic should have but often lacks up until now.

Zan won't be joining due to the 'too many alts' thing but he might become a frequent visitor, hoping that some of the Brotherhood's knowledge rubs off on him. ;)
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Dihenis on January 19, 2008, 06:41:38 pm
This sounds very nice, but unfortunately for me I don't have a mage character not already engaged, and I don't think you'd appreciate all the alts I have  :(

and I agree mage magic can get absurd, so I'm sure you, Phineas, will be able to keep the newbies in check
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Jekkar on January 19, 2008, 07:31:07 pm
Horrible Phinehas, good luck though.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Leama on January 19, 2008, 07:38:48 pm
Phinehas

You call your guild “The Arcane Brotherhood.” Are you only considering male members?

I really like the idea of this. Good Luck.
/me walks away knowing Phinehas will do a great job.


Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: ThomPhoenix on January 19, 2008, 07:39:20 pm
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Do not expect that since when you were born an old crone prophesied that you would be a great wielder of the arcane arts you will be an Archwizard within weeks.
This sentence is too long for my taste.

Government:
What exactly is your plan here? Is this supposed to be a cumulative government system or a more separated checks and balances system? It's not too clear now.

Hierarchy:
Reminds me a lot of the Imperial Scholars. The Imperial Scholars are awesome of course, and you led them once, so that isn't necessarily bad.

Claim to be the only Wizard Guild:
The Imperial Scholars are wizards too, but they have departments or "Paths" of knowledge. Your guild would indeed be the only current wizards-only guild. However, what is then meant with this statement:

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We are united by our desire to pursue knowledge in all its forms, and most notably in the area of the arcane.

So, are you going for wizards-only, or are you adopting the model so graciously provided by the Empire?

For the rest, it is a very nice guild and we may surely expect great things from it and from it's leader.

Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on January 19, 2008, 08:13:37 pm
You call your guild “The Arcane Brotherhood.” Are you only considering male members?

Don't think he meant it that way as brotherhood could also simply mean a group of people working together. Like a community or society.

As for the guild can't wait when I see it ingame  :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 19, 2008, 08:29:45 pm
You call your guild “The Arcane Brotherhood.” Are you only considering male members?
Yeah, we're really sexist that way... No, we're more than happy to accept female members, it's just that calling it the Sisterhood would have been weird, and that leaves us with the Siblinghood which is just pathetic. ;)

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Do not expect that since when you were born an old crone prophesied that you would be a great wielder of the arcane arts you will be an Archwizard within weeks.
This sentence is too long for my taste.
We are wizards... Things tend to get complicated. I was actually careful to not simplify any of the IC information too much for that reason.

Government:
What exactly is your plan here? Is this supposed to be a cumulative government system or a more separated checks and balances system? It's not too clear now.
It's a little more checks and balances-oriented, but has both.

Hierarchy:
Reminds me a lot of the Imperial Scholars. The Imperial Scholars are awesome of course, and you led them once, so that isn't necessarily bad.
Let me assure you that nothing here is even remotely taken from the Scholars. When I was the Archsage of the Empire, the Scholars had yet to form into anything significant, and I haven't really seen them since then. Anyway, even if there are similarities, I expect a lot of things such as ranks to grow and end up having more complexity in time. Like I said, this is just a foundation.

Claim to be the only Wizard Guild:
The Imperial Scholars are wizards too, but they have departments or "Paths" of knowledge. Your guild would indeed be the only current wizards-only guild. However, what is then meant with this statement:

Quote
We are united by our desire to pursue knowledge in all its forms, and most notably in the area of the arcane.

So, are you going for wizards-only, or are you adopting the model so graciously provided by the Empire?
Again, nothing here is taken from the Empire or any of it's guilds. I've been around a good deal longer than the current system of the Empire, so even if some of our ideas are similar, you can be sure I thought of them first. ;)
The statement that we are the only wizard's guild is, in my opinion, true. The Scholars are part of the Empire. Dispute it, argue it all you want, but the fact remains that the Scholars exist because the Empire exists. No Empire, certainly no more Scholars. The Scholars can't be separated from the Empire, so in a sense they are more of a sub-guild. I know Sangwa may prefer to word things differently, but unless a great deal has changed in the foundational structure of the Empire since I was a member, that's how things are.

For the rest, the Scholars are just that, scholars. They allow for all forms of study. Sure there are people who study magic there, but the guild(or sub-guild) is not really focused on magic, but in general learning. You might just as well say the Knowledge Seekers are a wizard's guild. It takes far, far more for a guild to be a "wizard's guild" than for it to just have a couple wizards in it.

The Brotherhood focuses strongly on magic, but also encourages other study for a healthy and balanced accumulation of knowledge, and to prevent a skewed outlook on life. Phinehas, for instance, studies magic like it's going out of style, but he has also done a great deal of work in chemistry/alchemy, and dabbled in many other areas of science. Thanks to this he has a fairly balanced perspective on things, though you wouldn't know it to talk to him. Yes, the Brotherhood would accept a member who wishes to study, but does not wish to wield magic, because the pursuit of knowledge in all its forms is the natural passion of a True Wizard.

I know some of that may seem like semantics to some people, but there's not much I can do about that. The reasons that we are the only wizards guild are, to my mind, irrefutable. If it's any consolation, I've even talked to some of the Scholars members, and they did not challenge the claim.

For the rest, it is a very nice guild and we may surely expect great things from it and from it's leader.
Appreciated.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Sangwa on January 21, 2008, 04:15:44 am
Looks very good Phinehas! I'm hoping this guild will provide the competition we, the Imperial Scholars, so much require.

The structure itself is very much of my liking. It's pretty much how I'd put it up too.

However, about the Promotional Thread itself (the topic) I believe you could do some tuning. I'd separate the OOC information into listed points, so people can browse through them in an easier fashion.
Another thing would be to add some type of flavor text: something that'd keep it still sharp, but also decorated. As it is you're showing us a good car without the painting.

I've never perceived Phinehas as a very brotherly dude, hence why I'm not so hot on the name. Despite that, the wording attached to it seems to work.

EDIT: Some changes to wording.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 21, 2008, 04:29:27 am
Looks very good Phinehas! I'm hoping this guild will provide the competition we, the Imperial Scholars, so much require.
The Scholars? Competition? For us? Hahahahaaaaa! :P (kidding)

However, about the Promotional Thread itself (the topic) I believe you could do some tuning. I'd separate the OOC information into listed points, so people can browse through them in an easier fashion.
Another thing would be to add some type of flavor text: something that'd keep it still sharp, but also decorated. As it is you're showing us a good car without the painting.
I see your point about "listing" the info... I'll do that.

As for the flavor text, I thought about it... But couldn't really come up with anything that sounded good without being cheesy. Like I said, I'm keeping it simple as this is a foundation for a guild... Even since I posted this we've already taken on more flavor and style, thanks to the awesome members.


I've never perceived Phinehas as a very brotherly dude, hence why I'm not so hot on the name. Despite that, the wording attached to it seems to work.
I did put a lot of thought into the name, as I had the same reservations you did... I came to the conclusion, however that Brotherhood does an admirable job of showing our unity of purpose. It also points out that no one character(as much as Phinehas would love to) will elevate himself above all the rest. Of course there are "older" and "younger" brothers, but there isn't a "father". That analogy turned out weird.
As for the rest, something that has always been a part of Phinehas' character, although rarely seen, is that he's willing to put up with a good deal more than usual if it furthers the study of magic.

Oh, I forgot... *insert a lot of melodrama directed at Sangwa for his criticisms* You're just a bad person. :D

Also, I changed the name of the guild in the first post to be a link to our forums, and will be adding one to my signature.

Plus, the guild has been created in-game, for those of you who were wondering.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 21, 2008, 11:40:41 am
I suggest a simple rearrangement in presentation. I had to read eight paragraphs and battle through the intricate interplay of inner and outer circles before discovering your guild's aims. The latter, I suggest, should be given greater prominence.
While you have a point, it's a minor one that can, in my opinion, be easily avoided by the elusive art known as "skimming". I'll rearrange it, but really... That was barely worth posting.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: hitancrias on January 21, 2008, 01:58:08 pm
I've visited your forums, and I saw your guild is physically located in an arcane tower. That reminded me of The Arcane Order, which also had an 'Arcane tower'. Also the name and the goals of your guild are quite similar to those the Arcane order had. Just as the fact that you don't have one leader but an inner circle of equals.

Now, there's nothing wrong by re-using elements of other guilds, especially not when they are dead for a long time. On the other hand, I remember that your character always strongly opposed the AO and refused to join them. Isn't it strange to create a guild with so many similarities with a guild that you always opposed?
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Sangwa on January 21, 2008, 02:22:18 pm
Hehe, I don't remember the Arcane Order too well...

I came to the conclusion, however that Brotherhood does an admirable job of showing our unity of purpose. It also points out that no one character(as much as Phinehas would love to) will elevate himself above all the rest.
This is what I don't understand as well. I would imagine Phinenhas wanting to be the one leading, as he never showed to be willing to listen to many. He may have reached a conclusion that team play allows for better results though... Either way, we're just questioning Phinehas' choice of guild considering his character and past actions. People change, and this seems like a good result.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on January 21, 2008, 08:26:51 pm
Ok, you guys have forced me to give a little insight into Phinehas' character... something I rarely do, and don't particularly like to. In this case, however, I'll just have to hope that everyone is a mature enough RPer to not take advantage of the OOC knowledge I'm now supplying them with.

First off, does anyone remember the reason Phinehas didn't like the AO? Of course not, because it was always so vague. Want to know why he hated them? They never invited him to join the guild.

Let it sink in for second... for all his being a well-known magic wielder, and perhaps even more well-known than any individual member of their guild, they never invited him to join. This hurt his pride, as he really had wanted to join. Now, of course there were other reasons he disliked them... He was a young man at the time, and as all young people, thought he knew better than everyone else how everything should be done.

More than one year has passed since then, years spent mostly in study and reflection. Over time his pride healed enough that while he would never say it to anyone out loud, he could admit to himself that the AO had done a lot of things right. This is why you may see some similarities. In designing the guild, Phinehas had no particular intention of copying the AO, but he didn't shy away from the idea of being similar like he might have a few years ago.

Those same years that healed his pride brought him to the realization that while his own studies progressed fairly well, if he was going to have any sort of an impact on magic-wielders in general, he would have to relax his desire for control a little, or at least appear to. He has lost more than one young mage over the years simply because he refused to try even a little bit to keep them as an apprentice. He judged that their thirst for knowledge should overrule their dislike for him, but eventually realized that, in all fairness, even his great desire to learn had never surpassed his pride to the point of letting him study under a master. So he realized that in a guild, he could not appear to have complete power, and indeed that if he had the responsibility of complete power he would never have any time for his own studies.

So, as far as the Brotherhood and the Inner Circle go... Allow me to point out that Phinehas is, at the moment, the only Archwizard... So while he will be fair in promoting people, it will be a good while before anyone else can challenge his power, or even share it. By then he'll have the guild pretty much running the way he wants it, and won't mind someone else taking part of the burden of running it so he can continue his private studies. He's thought it through carefully, let me assure you.

A last consideration: Even Phinehas gets lonely. He doesn't want to give up his studies for the sake of socializing, but it would be nice to have someone to discuss mutually interesting subjects with.

Ok, that all seems a little off-topic, but I said it to allay your fears that I was sacrificing Phinehas' personality for the sake of starting a guild. He's a devious little bugger, he is. I would appreciate if nobody used this knowledge IC as you would have no way of knowing it, since Phinehas keeps his mouth shut about his own feelings, ambitions, and methods. Also, don't think I just made that all up so it would sound good. This isn't something thought through in retrospect, to reconcile his actions with how I want things to be. This is all factual history... Phinehas did go through those changes of feelings as I have spoken them. I'm not about to give up who he is just to start a guild.

That said, for all those who are freaking out wondering who would ever join a guild run by this creepy, little, self-centered jerk, I refer you back to the government to point out that dictatorial power is safely out of his hands, even though he will have great influence, and that there is a player behind the character who, while staying true to Phinehas' character, won't let him ruin the fun of the guild for everyone else.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on January 23, 2008, 02:46:41 am
*Kieve grins*

Count me in.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on February 01, 2008, 05:35:41 am
Hey... why is it that [with the exception of Saiix] I can never seem to catch you other spellcasters in-game? :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on February 01, 2008, 08:17:52 am
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing time zones. I'm not on much during the week, and when I am on it seems to be during the slump...
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on February 01, 2008, 02:17:28 pm
Its because everyone else in that guild has I life and I have nothing better to do but stay logged in all the time  :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: druke on March 05, 2008, 12:47:56 pm
woot! go phiny work on it hard! thanks fr the reference by the way. If I was still around PS i'd join (with a different charcter obviously) in a heartbeat. Also thanks for the refernece and explanation post.

If you need any ooc help, email me! (the one entered in teh forums still works)
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Robinmagus on March 19, 2008, 05:37:36 am
Well phinny, it could use alot of work. I might have been able to lend you some of my talents if I was around ;) , but considering that I wasn't, it's a satisfactory job.   :D

[ insert useful critisism]

I wanna be a wizard!!

Good Job.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Silvannus on March 24, 2008, 07:16:45 am
I'm interested in joining this guild. Phinehas I've been in 2 other guilds that you have been a member of, but i am not going to bring up who i was, not that you remembered me or care.... but anyway what time zone are you in? and around which times are you usually online? I'd like to meet you in game and see how a "interview" would go.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on March 24, 2008, 05:37:41 pm
I'm interested in joining this guild. Phinehas I've been in 2 other guilds that you have been a member of, but i am not going to bring up who i was, not that you remembered me or care.... but anyway what time zone are you in? and around which times are you usually online? I'd like to meet you in game and see how a "interview" would go.

I'd advise trying to join the guilds forums. It might be easier then finding the members ingame.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on April 01, 2008, 07:16:52 am
No kidding. Especially us AWOL types... we're pretty elusive. *dry chuckle*
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Deckchair on April 03, 2008, 09:25:16 am
question, Phinehas, i would like to try and join, but i might need to up my arcane skills abit. they are behind. I will problably be using another account, as  i cannot member the ussername and pw for my first account. hope to see u in game, ill have to start a fresh..







edit* obviously After the server is back up..
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on April 03, 2008, 09:11:55 pm
Indeed. It may seem that we're not very alive and, well to be honest, that's true. However that's only because it's the last month of the semester and I'm busily cranking out tests for my various majors. We shall be back! In the meantime, using the forums is your best bet.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Gravemind on April 28, 2008, 03:23:25 am
I think I joined this guild back when it first formed in molecular blue... or at least it was a guild with the same name  :beta:

hehe
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on June 21, 2008, 04:28:03 am
No. You didn't. That was the Arcane Order.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Levski on July 05, 2008, 03:14:05 am
Sheesh Phinehas, if I saw a bit more of the Arcane Brotherhood running around in-game, I think I'd have to join.

Congratulations on your well thought out guild, and good luck with it!
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on July 05, 2008, 05:14:01 am
Sheesh Phinehas, if I saw a bit more of the Arcane Brotherhood running around in-game, I think I'd have to join.

Congratulations on your well thought out guild, and good luck with it!

Well the guild is secret so you wouldn't see the tag anyways  :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on July 19, 2008, 02:06:12 pm
That's it, I need to get Kieve back in-game at some point.
I mean really, a hiatus is one thing, but after all this time? More like taking a cruise and falling out the bottom of the stalactite...
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: BLARG!!! on August 29, 2008, 12:08:11 am
it sounds intresting ^_^

Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on September 03, 2008, 09:19:19 am
Anybody still active?
(Anyone besides Saiix?)

[Server's down right now, but currently Kieve can be found in Ojaveda, hanging around Brado's place.]
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on September 03, 2008, 11:46:08 pm
Shush, we all went on vacation in our magical out of Yliakum lair. Saiix just wasn't invited.

In all seriousness though, no one is around. Not currently anyways besides myself. Phinny disappeared (guessing he's busy IRL) and I suppose the same is true for the others.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Farren Kutter on September 04, 2008, 09:16:54 am
My charrie left to go off and make his own guild, which never kicked off cause I was never on him....
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on September 26, 2008, 07:07:15 am
This sort of died sadly, and mostly due to me. Reality is, I'm just busy, and when I'm not busy, I'm relatively unmotivated. I appreciate all the publicity and continual bumping of the thread, though. Highly amusing.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: hitancrias on September 26, 2008, 05:02:28 pm
Too bad to hear your guild died, Phinehas. It was a well thought out initiative.
Alas, it seems it's much harder for oldbies to establish a successful guild than it is for newbies.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on September 26, 2008, 08:39:15 pm
Well, the problem wasn't so much the guild. It would have thrived, the problem was more my lack of commitment to the game as a whole.

As for your point about oldbies vs. newbies, I think it's because oldbies have higher standards.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on October 08, 2008, 05:37:19 am
"Dead" or not, I'm still proud to have Kieve in the Brotherhood. :) It just . . . fits.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Entevir on October 12, 2008, 09:35:47 pm
I agree with the fin on the the oldies vs baldies discussion... If you can call two posts a discussion.
Anyway i wish you luck in making this work. Seems like an interesting guild and if i ever find myself in need of one i know where to turn.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on October 13, 2008, 05:38:28 am
Heh, maybe the old wizard of the tower *cough* Phinehas *cough cough* could come around and give us the ability to invite new members.  :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on October 13, 2008, 06:41:25 am
Hm, Duraza as the new arch-wizard? Why does that thought terrify me?
You'd probably have us all commit to dark magic and start worshipping BF.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on October 13, 2008, 05:07:43 pm
Hm, Duraza as the new arch-wizard? Why does that thought terrify me?
You'd probably have us all commit to dark magic and start worshipping BF.

Never.....At least Saiix wouldn't. Me, I probably would.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: yanom on December 13, 2008, 02:11:34 am
I wanna join! with my spellcaster char Yanom.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on December 17, 2008, 09:51:22 pm
Then join. Saiix and Kieve were promoted to Mage, so they have the ability to invite now.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Garris Shrike on December 18, 2008, 03:35:00 am
I see Kieve on the most, so look for him first.
But then again, I've only ever seen Phinehas out of this guild in person.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on December 18, 2008, 03:58:31 am
Then join. Saiix and Kieve were promoted to Mage, so they have the ability to invite now.

We were? Awesome, it gives me a purpose for logging in as Saiix again :D
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on December 18, 2008, 04:43:08 am
I figured I'd make life worth living for you. :P I probably won't be on much, but I'll check in every once in a while, make sure you haven't killed the guild.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Kieve on January 04, 2009, 08:12:05 pm
Guess it's a good thing I planned on returning to PS after the holidays. :D
/me pads off to set something alight *
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on June 22, 2010, 07:46:48 pm
*hack! cough cough*

I know it's generally bad taste to bump a thread that hasn't been posted in for more than a year, but I was wondering if any of the members were still around, and if there were any people interested in joining the guild? We still exist in-game, and our forums are still up and working. I'm planning on being around "regularly" (though not intensely) for the next several months, so if anyone has any interest at all in the Arcane Brotherhood, now would be the moment to speak up.

I haven't updated the initial post, because it still seems to be fundamentally accurate.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on June 22, 2010, 09:28:28 pm
Lies. All of it must be lies. I don't even want to believe such lies are possible.

I still snoop the forums, I've not really updated my client cause I've been busy with other things but if you'll be about I can lurk around.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on June 22, 2010, 11:03:43 pm
Well, it's not all lies.

Didn't expect a response quite so quickly. Especially not from you or any of the other old members, Duraza.

Let's hope this is a sign of great things to come.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Skrein on June 22, 2010, 11:15:13 pm
I wasn't a member, but I feel like posting anyway. :P
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Phinehas on June 22, 2010, 11:32:15 pm
You're welcome to do so.

Just to be clear here, this isn't just a "let's talk about old times" bump. The purpose was to see if there was any interest in this guild from old members or from people who might be interested in joining. If there is, it's likely that I'll put effort into reviving it somewhat. If not, then I'll probably let it keep its present course of total inactivity.

Duraza, don't forget our forums.
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: bloodedIrishman on June 23, 2010, 04:11:29 am
I do have an interest, but my computer is turd. Until I can play without the lag I have now, I won't join. Until then, you cold-hearted, slimy, knowledgeable and understanding lizard, I bid you adieu.

(NOT Kull. And I won't be telling you nosy people who.)
Title: Re: [Guild] The Arcane Brotherhood
Post by: Duraza on June 23, 2010, 04:43:44 am
Honestly it caught me by shock as my forum snooping is usually once every other week that I would happen to catch you on this day perfectly. And I did forget about our forums but I no longer forget as I am reminded.