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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mathy Stockington on August 04, 2008, 03:41:15 pm

Title: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 04, 2008, 03:41:15 pm
While looking at the thread called R.I.P. - A thread for all the characters and people we miss in PlaneShift; I had a thought though I need help with it. I thought a Reunion of all our friends that we miss might be fun. Though it has to be exciting enough to make them want to come back. I need ideas of events that will make this fun and hopefully last an entire weekend so all time zones can participate. First I would like to see if anyone would be interested in doing this with me. Then I need ideas of how to make this event work. I thought I could send out emails to those who have left inviting them to this event, but I need to know how to get these email addresses. Can someone help me create an invitation for this email? So basically I am trying to make a great big party to invite all your old friends to. Let me know if you think this is something you wish to do and ideas of how to make it happen. If I do not get a tremendous response then I gather most of you are not interested. My fingers are crossed that many people will like this idea and will work hard to make this player event happen.

Thank you,

Mathy.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Gaian on August 04, 2008, 06:27:43 pm
I'm happy to see this  :)
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: nedoko on August 04, 2008, 06:31:33 pm
I could try and plan something.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Illysia on August 04, 2008, 06:33:39 pm
I'll see what I can do about an invitation.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on August 05, 2008, 03:10:35 am
You can get some of the names via these forums and I would suggest that method.

As for events, I suggest you contact Yill/Proglin and get him to plan a tournament or other such fair/fare.

I will ask that some settings devs get on to support the event with weather and perhaps other surprises.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 05, 2008, 03:30:02 am
Xillix, your help would be greatly appreciated. Any other suggestions?
Illysia I would love to see the invitation you make. You are such a great talent!!

If I get more people to answer my thread and I know there is interest in this event I will proceed. Come on people help me.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on August 05, 2008, 07:08:38 am
steuben has an event that he wanted to run with a fair where the winch was opened for a day, this might be a good occasion.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 05, 2008, 01:21:05 pm
I made two threads that I had hoped to incorporate in this event http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33153.0 and http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33278.0

I was hoping to have a role play event where people could talk about the good old days, their favorite moments or favorite place they liked to be in game. What do you think?

If you cannot come up with an idea for this event would you be interested in attending it? That is very important also. Let me know if you would be there if RL allows.

We have a whole weekend to fill up, come on people I need to know if you are interested in doing this. steuben let me know what your idea is so we can use it too.

Proglin can you come back to help me? Zorbels you always have great ideas.

Thank you one and all for your help.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Dajoji on August 05, 2008, 04:45:13 pm
It would be nice to have this "Green Name Day" but I would suggest that you keep it IC. If you want to catch up with what everyone's been doing OOCly you can do it on IRC or even here. A festival of some sort or fair may attract those who aren't playing but you should also keep in mind that some players can't be reached.

In any case, if each player who wants to see their buddy list go all green for one day tries to contact all those names now permanently red via PMs, emails or whatever means they have to do so, you might get more guests than with an open call. Of course, you should probably have the event a bit more thought out.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Illysia on August 05, 2008, 05:11:51 pm
I would suggest holding it in Oja but if the winch area would be open then Hydlaa would be better. Maybe they would come back if they had something to work for. ;)  Events that could held should be centered around newly implemented features  to show people what they are missing.

Provided I had proper storage. I could cook up a lot of food.

People could sell some of the newer weapon types, as in maces, staves, and hammers.

Some could sell maps to the newer areas like Gugrontid, the derghir outpost, and so on.

Some guilds may open up their Guild house for recruitment events.

Book readings could be held.

Non lethal arena duels could be held

Maybe a Miss Hydlaa Contest could be held. Nothrir's might have a bit of an edge with the new model.  ;D

Story telling of the latest happenings such as the crystal eclipse, the riverlings, the Tloke, etc

The House of Games could probably host a games if you ask nicely.  :)

Ask Serq Feht if he would plan another singles event for during that time.  ;D

If Alchemy is fully implemented by then, have people selling potions. No snake oil now.  :D

Maybe representatives for the new religions could try and convince the returning players to convert.

Hold tours of the newer areas.

I can't think of anything else at the moment.  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: SerqFeht on August 05, 2008, 05:26:04 pm
Ask Serq Feht if he would plan another singles event for during that time.  ;D

 :P

I think the winch being opened for a day would be a good idea. I've never been there. How's the lag?

The idea of a market selling some of the new products is good. I could sell some books, now that they're workable.

I think it's a good idea. Don't take this the wrong way. But I'm really not expecting a large turnout from your target audience. You'll still have a great festival, but few, if any lost oldbies may appear. But I hope there's good turnout. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Illysia on August 05, 2008, 05:33:34 pm
I think it's a good idea. Don't take this the wrong way. But I'm really not expecting a large turnout from your target audience. You'll still have a great festival, but few, if any lost oldbies may appear. But I hope there's good turnout. :thumbup:

Actually, a lot of oldbies are popping up sporadically. Some have even started playing again on their own.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 05, 2008, 06:00:44 pm
Dajoji is correct. I need to get a mailing list started. So please PM me with as many email addresses of people you know that no longer play. Illysia would you like to be my assistant in this event? You have great ideas. If we get enough events put together and we get enough responses then we can start to think of a date to do this.

I have high hopes that this will work. I do hope that the older players come back for this Reunion and maybe decide to stay. In any case this will be a great fun weekend if we can pull it off.

Btw, is it possible to have a book for everyone to sign? This way we can see who came. I would just love to make everyone welcome to our Reunion. Yes this is OUR Reunion. Help us make it a great event!!

One more thing, if anyone uses #planeshift on IRC please copy this link there. There are many who do not play but still stay in contact with old friends there. Encourage them to come!!
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Dajoji on August 05, 2008, 06:08:39 pm
I think it would be better to come up with a guest list and assign the names to those who know them well in-game. I'm not sure giving away contact information will be well taken by those who are not here. Better to leave it to those they know. You can create your mailing list based on who shows up and is willing to give you their email then.

But before you send out invitations make sure you got a concept for the event and a few activities. That'll give you a hook for your event promotion.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mythryndel on August 05, 2008, 07:42:30 pm
I have to agree with Dajoji. I would not take it kindly if PS staff gave out my contact info. I would much prefer it if someone I knew and trusted enough to give my personal info to contacted me instead.

I would probably recommend starting a thread here as a "sign-in book" of people who attend the event or are willing/able to come play.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 05, 2008, 08:00:43 pm
I like that idea Mythryndel. I want more people to respond to my first request about getting this set up. I would dearly hate to get a list of guests together and not have a Reunion party for them to go to.

Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins on August 05, 2008, 08:15:42 pm
I would love to take part...
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 06, 2008, 01:15:18 pm
I was hoping for a huge response here. If I do not see more people interested in this event then I will scrap it. I need more ideas and more people to help me. Let's try this again, how does a PS Renunion sound of all your old friends? Anyone have other event ideas?
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on August 06, 2008, 04:53:40 pm
There are already a lot of great ideas here, is it unfortunate that they take more work than typing a couple sentences? Probably, but then, that is the problem with doing something pro-active, it requires activity . . .

How much more so making the game . . .  a question for another time perhaps . . .

For now focus on gathering the resources that have presented themselves to you-

Make an irc channel for your people to gather . . .

Use this forums user list to gather email addresses of people you miss; if their email is pubic here I doubt they will mind being contacted . . .

Set a target date as a goal . . .

You have more than enough ideas (ideas are not hard to come by, implementation is the hard part) to have a splendid event, now get in the trenches and make something happen!

You need to believe you can succeed otherwise OTHERWISE (http://www.yodajeff.com/multimedia/sounds/episode5/idontbelive.wav)
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 06, 2008, 05:10:17 pm
Xillix,

Thank you for your encouragement and you are correct.
/me gets to work.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Candy on August 06, 2008, 11:10:48 pm
I'd like to see this take place, but I don't have any contact info or anything 'cause I'm relatively new...but still, I like it. :)
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 06, 2008, 11:21:27 pm
Candy

So many wonderful people are now gone, but they are now replaced by wonderful people like you. I hope to be able to pull this off.
/me worries. This is a big project.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Anumesa on August 09, 2008, 10:57:12 am
I'll try to make it >.> maybe i could drag an "oldbie" with me.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Parallo on August 09, 2008, 04:24:31 pm
Sounds a little like stalking to me.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 09, 2008, 05:49:33 pm
Why would bringing a friend to a party be stalking Parallo?
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Parallo on August 09, 2008, 05:56:22 pm
I meant tracking down contact details of past players.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 09, 2008, 06:01:47 pm
Then is this Reunion a bad idea Parallo? (PM me if you wish) It is all about finding old players and having some fun I thought. If they do not want to come they do not have to. So far I see little interest anyway.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Parallo on August 09, 2008, 06:06:12 pm
I didn't say it was a bad idea but using forums to unearth details about people that have chosen to disassociate themselves with the one thing connecting you to them, Planeshift, seems a bit strange. To be frank, I'd probably tell you to leave me alone were I in their shoes.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 09, 2008, 06:22:47 pm
It is like having a RL school reunion where the school is all we had in common. Our class 'clown' showed up and he was no longer a 'clown' anymore. This guy was fat, short and ugly during school. Since being in the military he was well built, handsome and well educated. We were all impressed. After the party he had many new friends he did not have before. I had hoped that some who left PS might return and find they enjoy it and stay because they made new friends as well as seeing some old ones. Fun for all. Maybe, maybe not.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Parallo on August 09, 2008, 06:35:32 pm
I just marvel that one so polite as you would over step that boundary and gather personal details. I would have thought it a step over the line for someone that always behaves in such a timid way.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Prolix on August 09, 2008, 07:14:31 pm
Go on wit you Parallo. She was merely taking the wrong approach, a RL party planning approach to a cyber event. Times are changed. She has now caught up.


Some people who are left have contact with others who have left. There is nothing wrong with them mentioning this gathering to their friends and reporting which  have said they are interested. I believe she has already dispensed with the idea of a contact list and now wants an indication of numbers to plan for.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 09, 2008, 07:14:56 pm
Pardon me Parallo for anything I said here that was out of place. All who wish to bring ideas to the table about this Reunion are welcome. I am working on it and will post it when I have it all thought out.

Yes Prolix that is correct.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Dajoji on August 09, 2008, 07:18:57 pm
I believe the idea of putting together a mailing list was discarded. I may be wrong. I wouldn't consider asking people to tell their friends about this reunion a step over the line, unlike the mailing list.

Mathy: I think you got enough to start with here. Once the plan is laid out and the content of the event defined, you can then ask participants to help with the promotion (which is a rather simple task, really). All they gotta do is tell as many friends as they can and RSVP if possible and link them to your promotional thread. They just need you to develop that promotional thread and the content it is meant to promote, which you can create with the two or three people that have shown interest in being behind the scenes in this thread.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 09, 2008, 07:22:11 pm
Thank you Dajaji. I am working on just that.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 13, 2008, 09:28:15 pm
Due to the discouraging PM’s, tells, and conversations I have had on IRC, this event is now scrapped. If anyone wished to proceed with this you may do so.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mythryndel on August 13, 2008, 11:19:25 pm
The "mailing list" was scrapped on page 1 of this topic... what is all this talk about stalking and not being polite? As I understood it, those that are here, and still have contact with people that used to be here... would simply ping them about the event once more details were established and see if they wanted to come give PS another shot...

What is so wrong about that? Are we getting lost in the details that were already discarded, or did I just miss something?
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: rainion on August 14, 2008, 06:04:53 am
wait areyou guys talking about me or something?

i use to play this game a while ago then stop and im trying to get back in! :D
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Raa on August 14, 2008, 09:36:21 am
Due to the discouraging PM’s, tells, and conversations I have had on IRC, this event is now scrapped. If anyone wished to proceed with this you may do so.

That's dumb. You shouldn't quit just because of some discouragement. Obviously those people are a bunch of party-poopers. If you don't continue with this, you're letting them get their way.

</hope speech>
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 14, 2008, 10:48:55 pm
So would you want me to still try to make this happen even though I was told it would more turn out to be a big party for the ones that now play instead of a Reunion of our 'old friends'? Does that defeat the purpose of a 'Reunion'?

(I apologize for my delay in responding; I have been watching the Olympics and have been busy)
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Raa on August 15, 2008, 01:59:55 am
Doesn't matter how many oldbies you have... at least if they'res one... I dunno. Don't ask me. But they'd appreciate it. They may even come back.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mythryndel on August 15, 2008, 04:15:52 am
I'm sorry, but if that little bit of criticism is going to get you down, perhaps this isn't the type of activity you should try to organize. In college I would set my sights high, but keep my expectations low. That sounds a bit cynical, but at the same time... you are trying for something huge... and there is a chance that it can flop. The only way you can fail in doing what you set out to do however, is if you don't finish what you started.

I'm not trying to force you to continue, or shame you into finishing this. I am just pointing out that no matter what you set out to do, someone is going to have something to gripe about. You can't let it get to you.

For the record, you just got a SMALL taste of what the Devs deal with on a daily/weekly basis.

Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 15, 2008, 01:53:22 pm
Mythrndel I am well aware of the attitudes of the people here. This project is so grand that I need help with it. I did think many people would like to see their old friends come back to visit and hopefully try to stay again for a while. I knew that it would be difficult, but I had I thought I would have more backing for this. Again if I am wrong and people want this event to happen then just let me know and I will further explain my ideas that I wanted to implement to make this happen.

This is an example of some of the responses I have gotten to this event:
"Reunion".. hmm.. some I know who left apparently rather left in cause of "how some things are handled". They moved onward to something else already. Asking them is, for some of them, like asking to give up their "new dreams".

This comes from someone I respect greatly and it makes me wonder if having a 'Reunion' is such a good idea.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Dajoji on August 15, 2008, 04:51:40 pm
Better ask and get a 'no, thank you', than never ask at all. Who knows? Maybe you should make a decision once you've heard from your targeted guests. If none of the lost players show any interest, then you can call it quits... but then, you could do it anyway and meet new people. After all, those who are here are more likely to stay.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins on August 15, 2008, 06:12:16 pm
I am so looking forward to a reunion...
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 15, 2008, 07:49:43 pm
Now that I have said I will scrap this idea I have gotten PM's asking me to stay with it. So now it went from gone for good to maybe it still will happen Lolitra. If you have any friends you wish to invite send me a PM and let me know. So all is not lost.

Thank you Lolitra, you are a kind and good friend.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Gwinn Ravenn on August 15, 2008, 10:22:47 pm
{I do hope you do the reunion. while GM events are grand player events are just as grand in different ways and are very necessary to encourage rp. Besides you already have food for the even all lined up :) can't let that go to waste}
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on August 15, 2008, 11:59:25 pm
/me looks up at Gwinn and smiles. Thank you I surely will not waste all this food.

why not just throw a party. if the oldies show up great but if not that is ok too. Either way there is the chance for RP yes?? Sounds worth it to me.

"If my opinion counted I would be Queen and offenders to the crown would be properly fish Flogged "
 
Gwinn,

Are you saying this should be a party for the current population and not at reunion at all?



Edit: Please dont double post use the Modify button
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mythryndel on August 23, 2008, 01:52:00 am
Honestly, it if it happens it is going to be both. Take it for what it is worth and go with it.

You can't exclude current players, and you are not likely to get all of the old players back... and the whole point is to get the old players to mingle with the new and move forward together... yes?!? So... what is wrong with this?
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on October 06, 2008, 05:52:07 pm
Zorbel's wish for a tournament made me think that I would still love to do this. Any suggestions or any volunteers please post your ideas here.

Thank you,

Mathy.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: ThomPhoenix on October 06, 2008, 08:05:56 pm
You'll have to do more to organise something like this :)
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Liadan on October 06, 2008, 08:22:03 pm
The idea of having a reunion within PS isn't new. But it rarely has gotten farther than just an idea. If you really really want to do it, (you being the general populace), then here's what i suggest:

- create a detailed outline of the 5 W's and H, and present it to a GM and a dev, preferably settings
- be prepared for a lot of questions, not all of them are meant to be criticism: when i say be prepared i mean sit down and think of every possible hole in your plan and how to resolve it...don't forget to write down your solutions. Be ready for those solutions to be questioned as well.
- advertise, advertise, advertise: IC, OOC, IG, OG...everywhere. it will be mostly word of mouth, the more who know, more are likely to come.

don't be discouraged if it seems to be an impossible task, you might want to get someone else to help with planning if it seems too much.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on October 06, 2008, 10:45:31 pm
I am open to any other suggestions to make this work. If we can get enough people together I do think it would be a great thing to do.

Thank you everybody who responds.

Mathy.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins on October 07, 2008, 09:29:12 pm
You know - where it is lovely to meet up with old friends... I have always found things like school reunions places where people are either there to gloat at how good they have done, or to try and relive the youth they so long ago left behind, or are just plain curious as to what happened to that odd one they always made fun of...  only to find they are the most successful one there, and is there to gloat.

But hey ho... I do love a party though.

Lolitra.
Title: Re: Reunion
Post by: Mathy Stockington on October 07, 2008, 10:54:38 pm
Lolitra I agree with you when it comes to a real life reunion. This is different I think. It would make me so happy though to catch up with Einnol, Indygo, Althos, Akra, Agara and so many others that I think it would be a worthwhile effort. What stumps me is making enough events and just how to reach all the people that have left. Just think how great it would be to have an event like this and have those we miss return!

I love the idea of calling it "Green Name Day" suggested by Dajoji.