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Support => Mac OSX Specific Issues => Topic started by: Adrenalina on September 05, 2008, 09:41:40 pm
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Hi,
can we - MacPPC users hope, that the MacDev takes the time during the "Offtime" of PS and fix all these horrible bugs, which are in the new version for the MacPPC ( failed loading Region, out of bounds, etc).
So that we can play the game and go to all areas of Yliakum on the day, when the server will awake from its long sleep.( When will come this Day???)
Greetings from a frustating PS Player. :@#\
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just because the server is down does not mean the devs have extra time to fix bugs. and as said before only one dev can look into this and he will when he gets a chance.
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Is there a chance that using Crossover with the windows client might work? As soon as i get a chance i was going to try it but im a bit busy with school atm...if it works then maybe it could be a temporary solution for the ppc mac users (and intel users like me who are having the same problems :P )
P.S. I'm not even sure if there IS a crossover for PPC users now that i think about it... >.>
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I tried another game on my intel mac and it failed as it was directX I am not sure how cx's opengl works or if it does at all, you could also try darwine and see if you get any better results there.
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I have the same issue, Adrenalina, and tried opening my char on a friend's Windoze machine
Impressive / disappointing results: Access all areas! ;D
...so if you've got access to some kind of Win-box, it can be used as a temporary remedy
But on our own machines, we have to stay put in Hydlaa and surroundings >:(
We must be patient, and let the Mac Dev get around to doing something about it, even if it won't happen tomorrow :sleeping:
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I,m using a ppc machine and i have the same kind of problem but mine wont load the first area so i will wait patiently for the fix....no choice :whistling:
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Nendo, replace the maps in 4.02 with the ones from 4.01. You still suffer the PPC bugs from 4.01 but at least you can get in game.
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Eurac, can you explain how to replace the maps?
I wonder if iti will fix the maps not found problem i'm having...
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read http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33105.msg386738#msg386738 and keep in mind what i said in that thread, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED
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Hi, Caarie,
finally today after the GMs have put my char in Hydlaa Plaza, I wanted to go to Oja and at the gate to Hydlla SSE I got the message load region failed and the client crshed, and cannot restart again. With a second char I have asked for help by the GMs.
So with the version 4.02 I can stay only in Hydlaa Plaza and winch.
It´s got more horrible.
I have one question. Does the Mac Dev read the posts in the forum, Now it is three months with this bugs for the MacPPC. Or is the interest for us Macplayers gone away from the Devs.
What can I do in PS, when I only can stay in Hydlaa Plaza or in winch?? Nothing. - no quests, no trains, no jobs.
For now I wait if the GMs can put my char again in Hydlaa Plaza. And then I only come in the game for meeting my guildfriends.
I am very frustatet, and rest only in PS for the Guild.
If there will not change something, I think to finish the game.
Thanks
Adrenalina
Cha0s's note: you already had a thread on this. No need to make a new one.
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Adrenalina keep in mind what i have said before the devs have rl to tend to first, and we have only one dev that can look into thiis and he is a very busy guy, i dont keep track of what they do and if they use the forum or not, please dont ask if they read the forum or have time to fix a bug unless you can fix it or take time to find someone to do so.
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I just post again on this topic to keep it alive in case of a dev to see it :P ......not much of a chance but who knows ? I'm sure there's a lot of ppc users like me waiting for the fix.If i could understand how to fix it , i would like to help but unfortunatly it's impossible for me to find where the problem is even if i tryed so many things in some folders i thought the problem could be.
I still think the devs are doing a great job and i'll continue to wait for the fix :thumbup:
thx
Please dont bump threads it isnt necessary, as has been already mentioned in this thread there is only one Mac dev atm and he knows
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Small update, don't know it this is relevant, but hey, every little bit might make it just easy enough that the Mac Dev can finally solve this... :detective:
I've updated my system from Mac 10.5.4 to 10.5.5, incl. a Java-update.
A little experimenting quickly shows me to be as "cursed" as ever, still get "map load failure" or "out of bounds" in those infamous areas
(you know who they are) :)
So no improvement there, hope it helps all the same :sweatdrop:
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I'm a PPC user and I strongly recommend using the old maps. They allow me to travel everywhere except the arena. Any problems caused by using old maps are insignificant compared to the problems introduced by the new map.
Old maps = playable with few problems
New maps = unplayable
It really is that simple.
read http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33105.msg386738#msg386738 and keep in mind what i said in that thread, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED
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see my comment on the same forum-entry that was linked to in the last post. Using the old map *does* work and so far there are almost no problems for me.
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Hello,
every day I look here in the forum for news with the MacPPC problem. Now I read this about the old maps.
Please tell me where and how I get this "old" maps, and how I must install them in the 4.02 client.
For me in this time the life in Yliakum is horrible. I can only stay in Hydlaa Plaza, nothing others, always failed region load. I have all done in the updaterxml, and the other things, what is relevant for mac.
thanks
Adrenalina
ingame Veralina
( but now you cannot find me in Yliakum. For this time I dont play until the problems are fixed
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It is not too difficult to copy over the old maps. All you have to do is to install the old client (0.4.01) again. But install it into a different directory and do not update it! So you have two copies of the planeshift-folder on your harddisk. You will have to copy the worldmap-files from this folder to your updated planeshift-folder.
Within the 0.4.01-planeshift-folder there is a folder named "art" and within that is one named "world". Within it are all the worldmap-files.
So, let's say your client crashes on Ojaroad part one and two. Then you would copy the files "ojaroad1.zip" and "ojaroad2.zip" into your other planeshift-folder, into the "world"-folder there (the updated one).
If that is too complicated feel free to contact me again, send me a personal message if you want to. Good luck.
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Hi, Mrkoli,
many thanks for this hint.
I have done it - changed all the maps, which were new. So for now I can go to all regions, except the arena, bdrd2 and Bronze Doors and for come out of Dungeons I kill me. Now I can play a little more than the last 5 weeks.
I hope that in this Life the macPPC Dev will have the time to fix all these horrible bugs in PS. ( Now I wait already 5 months - since the version 4.01 )
Thanks and greetings
Adrenalina
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I have done it too *Bakin bows to Mrokii*
I don't like to go back in development and use old stuff, but same as Adrenalina, I've been largely unable to leave Hydlaa because of this.
Until now, that is :) I can go almost everywhere now
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HI,
After I have changed the maps, I now test where I can go . Ojard1 is good, ojard2 is laggy, there I was killed from a ulbernaut. Now I stay in the DR. and cannot move. after loading the game, and when I want to go the game freezes.
So now I make a petion to the GMs that they put my char in Ojaveda.
All my results I will write here also for the other MacPPC users.
Greetings
Adrenalina
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For one, I just wanted to mention, that I wasn't the one who had the idea to use the old maps. I only heard it on irc, tried it and it worked. So it's not me who is to honour :)
Second, Adrenalina, if you can't go to BD, is that because it shows "loading region failed" when you try to access the second part of BDRoad? If so, the following *might* help you:
I have the same problem and when it happens and I reload the game, I am usually placed back on the first part of BDRoad. *But* sometimes (after reloading several times) I am placed on the second part! So, in other words, if the above happens, you could try to access the second part of BDRoad. You will *always* have the same "loading region failed"-message but with some luck you might finally end on the next part of the road. But beware that this part lags as much as one part of Ojaroad. But the Bronze Doors-area itself does not lag at all for me.
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Hello,
today finally after a while without PS, I testet it to get into bdroad2 Not possible for me, also after more than ten times reloading. Always my char is at the end of the first road.
These MacPPC Problems now are since 7 months. and it makes to loose the patience and the fun to play Planeshift.
Greetings
Adrenalina
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Adrenalina: Try to contact a GM on IRC, to check if your character can be moved to a safe region. There may be parts that you will not be able to access, but at least you can play the game then.
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Hi, all PPC Users.
I do how I sayed, I write my results of the tests. Today I have testet to go in the arena. After I have read the news about the signposts, who are called portals. And I can go now in the arena, after seven months finally.
The next thing what I try is going to bdroad2. And also I will write my results.
For now I can live with the laggy situation, important is to go everywhere in Yliakum, so I can continue my quests.
But the great hope always is, that will come the day, when Planeshift is playable with less problems.
Greetings
Adranalina
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Hi,
today my new experiences :
The way from bdrd1 to bdrd2 is yet bad for me there is no signpost Portal and th loading region failed comes again. Without help from GMs is nothing to do.
Greetings fom a never giving up MacPPC user
Adrenalina
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I thought there are now some fixes concerning the crashes at map loading points on laanx. Don't they help for macs or am I mistaken and there are no fixes (yet) ?
Sen
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here i'm still unable to run the updater ......"process has forked"........dam i need a new machine !!!
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HI,
very unhappy I must write this:
The portal in the arenatunnel for me and my MacPPC G4 doesn`t work. It has worked one time only. Yet three times I have must ask a GM that he move me to Hydlaa back.
So, what is it. That since 7 months nothing has been done for the MacPPC users.
Greetings Adrenalina
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Hi Adrenalina,
the ppc problem is on top of our list (despite there being many other bugs). Unfortunately the MacPPC is not a platform that is easy for us to test. A dev working on a fix is getting a bit more time though, and we hope he can have a look soon. Please hang on, and if gms complain to you, (which I do not think they do) send them to me :)
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The way from bdrd1 to bdrd2 is yet bad for me there is no signpost Portal and th loading region failed comes again. Without help from GMs is nothing to do.
This is really bugging me too, i cannot get to bdroad2 as there is no portal. Is it possible one can be put into place?
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A portal wouldn't even help me, the entire BDroad2 map is bugged for me, and causes client crash when trying to load it, no matter where... so even a GM /teleport wouldn't help! :o
I really look forward to the day where all maps work fine w/out artificial respiration ;)
*Bakin sends prayers to Laanx on behalf of the Dev working on this*
Edit:
Yesterday, Weltall made a special version of the BDroad2 map, I think he called it re-lighting.
This has cleared the final hurdle for me, I can go everywhere now!!! \\o// :thumbup: \\o//
Admittedly, it's with 3 different versions of the maps, with hours of scourging the forums and such for solutions and work-arounds,
but for the first time in far too many months, I don't have to bother a GM when trying to go somewhere.
We can actually talk about a fully working game! ;)
The map is less than 1MB, so if anybody would like a copy, gimme a holler and I'll send it to you :)
*Bakin bows in respect to the genius and dedication of Weltall and Bovek*
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New info, look at my post above :)
*Bakin points with his Axe*
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Hello, Bakin,
what I have found out is:
The Bug with the message "load region failed is only in the tunnel between Bdrd1 and bdrd2. It comes also when I want go from bdrd2 to bdrd1. So I have had to ask a GM for teleporting me to bdrd1.
Have I understood your post good? Do you have a possibility to make away this bug?
Remember I use a Mac PPC G4 with 2 GB of RAM and a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro Graficcard with 256 MB.
I am German and cannto understand all what you have written in your post.
Greetings
Adrenalina
ingame Veralina
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There was a problem with certain maps (all roads and the winch I think), in combination with PPC and the 3D engine. Notice the use of past tense there, as it seems 5 minutes ago CS devs found the problem, with a lot of help from Weltall and Trymm.
Of course that does not help you directly, as those changes in maps and 3D engine have to make their way into your PPC, but to answer your question 'Is there hope?', their certainly is now!
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I have this message between Hydlaa plaza and East Hydlaa too, i havent tried other maps yet. Winch was working.
Congrats to devs for finding the bug and i hope for a fix fast :D
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Hi, all MacPPCusers
Just in this time installed the new version, and tried out the first Thing: Going from Bdrd1 to bdrd2:
FINALLY IT WORKS - Happyness for us.
Also the laggy situation in bdrd2 is gone away.
Thank you to all Devs who have made this bugs away.
I will try out also the other things where were the bugs ( Arena, dungeons, magic shop) and then tell here my experience.
Greeting
Adrenalina
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Hi, All
after seven months full of problems, I can now go to every location . No more lags in ojaroad2 and bdroad 2.
I have testet all, except the dungeons, this I do tonight.
To come in the arena you must put your char near the portal, and no look to the "wrong" picture, and then click in the ground near the portal, and click enter. For me today it has worked.
Now the lfe in Yliakum has become very good.
Once more:
Many, many thanks to the Mac Devs, and : " Please, please, don´t change anymore this good running game for the MacPPC.
I use a Mac PPC G4, 10.4.11 2 GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB.
Greetings to all