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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Shaman on September 11, 2008, 04:00:19 am
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How hasn't this fad entered the PS forums yet? All the others have it somewhere.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/article1630897.ece
Opinions?
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Didn't you hear? This happened and the world ended already.
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We're all too busy in the post-apocalyptic chaos to post about it. :P
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We talked about it on IRC all night. :-\
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We talked about it on IRC all night. :-\
Yea, I was probably the one trying to get the most FUD out of this thing
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Since the world is ending, you should all go read Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World by Haruki Murakami. It fits in, theme-wise, and is one of the best books ever written. I read the English translation, of course. Hurry! You might not have much time left.
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In the words of GIR, "I'm gonna sing the Doom song now!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ)
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The first high-energy collisions are planned to take place after the LHC is officially unveiled on 21 October 2008.
We'r not safe yet :D
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The sun is wrong. No scientist believes that the world ends. So called scientists and yellow press says the world ends :P.
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ye, i have 0 belief that its going to kill us, i bet my life on it and you can hold me to it also :P
any how the black holes it creates are so small the they will destroy them self almost instantaneous,
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We survived to live another day. Let us make the most of it for we do not know what tomorrow will bring.
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i know what tomorrow will bring, my timetable says im at college
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Make the most of it One and only tanner. Make your parents proud. Many wish that they also could have that opportunity.
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ok now you make me feel bad since i failed my last course :sweatdrop:
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My advise One and only tanner is to NEVER give up. You can do it!! Think this year will be better then the last one. You can be the next greatest ______. You can do anything you want to!!
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We're still alive...aren't we? :D While we are we must be happy for this :P
Do not get scared about dying this way! It will be a quiet way to die: you are playing PS, then somehow you'll die and there will not be any problem, if you think that there's been people dead suffering all the pain that somebody could have in the world...Or imagine somebody terribly worried about that who'll die the morning of the experiment squashed under a car! ;)
Ok, I admit this: the day before the experiment I and my classmates said goodbye to each other and we also made our English teacher worried 'cause when she came in our classroom with some England and Europe maps we said "Don't worry, we'll not need them, this afternoon there will be a black hole and everybody will die...". The funny thing is that when we said that we were smiling ;D... but it was only a bit of humor... :innocent:
The thing is that everybody will die, so way should we get worried? And if the experiment may be bad for us, maybe it will be a good thing for somebody other. The funny thing in our life is that there isn't something that will be a good thing for everybody: it will be good for some of us and bad for some other people. Example: cars are good things, without them you'll need a lot of time to move in other places. But cars are bad things, too: we keep spending a lot of moneys for them and they pollute the air that we inhale. That's what I mean ;)
The fine thing in this "theory" is that surely there will not be a thing good for everybody, but surely there will not be a thing that will be bad for everybody :)
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http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com
that's the site you can check daily.
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Thanks. (It could have been the best site ever if there wasn't neither the "NOPE.", and forever. ;))
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Gaian you give me pause. Something to think about for sure. Well said. Inhaling all the emissions from that car could kill or maybe we could be run over by it. Even a doctor could tell someone that he has a terminal disease leaving that person a short time to live. Therefore live like this could be your last day. Be kind, giving and caring for we do not really know what will happen tomorrow. If we live like this then maybe the world would be a better place to be, right?
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Yes, you're right, Mathy. The best thing to do, if what I said is true, is trying do things that may be bad only for some rare cases, and the victims of these things shouldn't be the same :)... it's hard, isn't it?
Backing to what I said first: think about all the residues that the Earth will diffuse in the Universe: maybe they will help new species to grow on other players. But I still hope that this will not happen: I like being alive, after all ;)
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Look at that pages source code again. You'll see that it more than just "nope".
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*Candy makes that site her homepage*
They said Y2K was gonna end the world, too >>;
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Look at that pages source code again. You'll see that it more than just "nope".
I already seen it, don't worry. "NOPE." is the best thing to hear about this.
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Sensationalist press nonsense and a quote from a scientist who can't get any press coverage from his own work. Big deal. Humans have a real obsession with eschatology. I'll bet five bucks that when the end of the world comes, it comes in a manner that no human ever predicted or imagined.
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verden you could be right, but isn't everything all mapped out for us and we are not to question what we are told?
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No, that sort of perspective just means that one does not have to take any chances or be responsible for one's own life choices. Most philosophies, and all religions are nonsense. Stick to what you can prove, demonstrate, or measure objectively. The rest is manipulation of many by a few, for the benefit of the few.
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verden
Then could that mean that there might NOT be an end to the world?
/me closely watches my words so this interesting thread does not get locked.
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lol. I haven't even heard about what happened there yet.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=5753032
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verden: if the world will not end for this experiment it will end because the Sun will die (somebody somewhere already told that) or for something else: there are so many things the world can end for... but EVERYTHING comes to an end, nothing can exist forever.
(Or am I misunderstanding, as always? :P)
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From the moment that any living thing starts to live - it starts to die.
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*nod*
Perfectly right, for how scary it may seem for somebody. Scared by the truth ;)
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I can't resist... It seems on-topic.
Perfect Health is simply the slowest rate at which one can die. (by unknown)
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It is called reality Gaian. This is why some people do not take care of themsleves. They think, "Why bother, I am going to die anyway." The thing about it the road we get to travel on during that time can be a wonderful trip lasting many years. Live each day to best of all our ability and help others along the way.
"Life is lived forwards, but understood backwards" Now this makes more sense, right?
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It is called reality Gaian. This is why some people do not take care of themsleves. They think, "Why bother, I am going to die anyway." The thing about it the road we get to travel on during that time can be a wonderful trip lasting many years. Live each day to best of all our ability and help others along the way.
"Life is lived forwards, but understood backwards" Now this makes more sense, right?
Sure, it does.
Indeed, everybody is gonna die, but you should live a good life, while you're still alive and, indeed, a life spent thinking that anyways we should die and without caring of ourselves is helpless, almost an insult to people who worked for making people in the future live better. And in our life we all should try to make other people feel better.
An empty life is helpless for us and who surround us.
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What really amazes me is that I know you live half way across the world from me Gaian, and yet our thoughts on these topics are so similar. It just goes to show all of us: we are not that very different, right?
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LHC experiment is making us think, somehow ;)
And I am glad about this.
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Here's a live webcam so you can verify nothing happened:
http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eyFiClAzq8&feature=related
All I have to say really.
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No one has mentioned that this thread just happened to be written on 9-11. This is surprising to me.
Remember life is short. It is best to forgive and forget. The person that you forgive just might be the one to make the most difference in your life.
You never know. Do not miss your chance.
Thank you all for listening to me on this terrible day of sadness.
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I wrote it yesterday night, not 9/11.
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Think about this carefully: if there was a button you could push that will end the world... would you push it? I would.
In the next five years most of you will be dead, appreciate what time you have left.
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Odd, I kept thinking about the end of the world yesterday and this morning... Somehow I didn't hear about this. How did I not hear about this??
Eliseth, why do you think that? Most of us are young, healthy, smart, non-smoking individuals who eat right, drive safe, and exercise daily... Right...?
!(>o.o)> C( o`_ 'o C) c( O . O )q,~'
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Think about this carefully: if there was a button you could push that will end the world... would you push it? I would.
In the next five years most of you will be dead, appreciate what time you have left.
I do not understand why you say this nor do I understand why you would push the button. Can you explain please Eliseth? (btw, I have thought about it)
((and Shaman it appears most of the responses you have gotten are on 9-11 and that is why I mentioned it. Thank you for a great thread.))
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Woot, a doomsday thread with a hint of philosophy! I wonder how its not locked already.
I don't feel dead yet, so i guess they failed at destroying the world.
Eliseth: you are scary :o ...or just attracted to big buttons.
And i don't see why i should be dead in the next 5 years. Is there yet another doomsday, or the 100th take of the day of Judgment? Or maybe you are engineering a big red button that can destroy the world? Spreading such rumors can be profitable if you own a sect or two... sadly im not charismatic enough to get one going.
EDIT: I didn't believe this experiment could cause the end of the world until i saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM&eurl
EDIT2: Its the first funny thing i have seen on youtube.
Im about to drop some particle physics in da club, yo!
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If I had a way of choosing the way, this one is first on my list..
I just wish I could plan to be at the beach when it comes.. enjoying one of my favorite endulgements, or perhaps a few of them combined. And then...
fóssh!
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I think I prefer this site (http://hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/) for keeping me up to date on whether the LHC has destroyed the earth or not. This other one (http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/) you guys mentioned earlier has far less interesting source code. ;)
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Theres always the poles switching too XD
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Remember life is short. It is best to forgive and forget. The person that you forgive just might be the one to make the most difference in your life.
You never know. Do not miss your chance.
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hmmmm....
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Of course a person must wait to be asked to be forgiven if they think they have done nothing wrong :)
Life is full of many different people. We have to take advantage of what we can learn from those we meet to continue on our journey. Some lessons are hard and some are not. It can take a life time to figure it out. Each person has to think of whether it is worth it or not for their own selves. That is life.
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I'm with Eliseth. Hit that button!
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Of course a person must wait to be asked to be forgiven if they think they have done nothing wrong :)
*Edig nods his head in agreement and goes to do other things rather than wait.*
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Why verden? Raa will not see her 20th birthday then. Why?
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You sillies, what are you worried about? The only person who is going to destroy the world is me. Now, if I were there going to push the button you'd have to worry. I'd probably sabotage the LHC to instead of create a minature universe, destroy our universe by making it implode on itself. Of course, I'm not any where near the machine, lucky for all of you, so you've nothing to worry about. :P
(Or is this just a clever lie to trick you all until my apocalypse has started? Only time will tell. :devil: )
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/me laughs Duraza
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Nothing yet from this thing, I guess Swiss cheese takes time to set.
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Think about this carefully: if there was a button you could push that will end the world... would you push it? I would.
In the next five years most of you will be dead, appreciate what time you have left.
/me patiently waits for Eliseth to explain this to me.
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Ok then, think about this. Humanity as a whole is really rather horrible. We destroy almost everything we come into contact with, mostly we only think about ourselves and even when we do things for other people, we do it for selfish reasons. You only need to look around at the world today in order to see that we're just not doing it right. Our entire way of life is flawed. Think of all the people who are happy, and then multiply that a couple of times and you'll get the people who are not. Most of us work all our lives to find that which makes us happy only to discover that it can't actually be found.
Now reading that you might think, wow, what a depressing outlook on life. This is true, however I consider myself one of the very few who are truly happy with who they are and where they are going. What saddens me however is that I know most people aren't, and trying to tell them how to be happy is useless, you can't. Happiness isn't something one can simply find, or be given. Happiness is a mindset that has to be discovered by oneself.
So, from my position, there are two possible solutions to ending the sick, cruel reality we live in. #1... end the world, or #2... do what I can to make those I come into contact just a little more positive and happy. #1 is impossible unless I had a few nukes at my disposal, so I'm forced to go with #2. This isn't a problem, I'm more than happy to do it, but it is a daunting task given some of the people I know.
So yes, if there was a shiny red button that will end the world, I would push it, and end the suffering I know is happening all over the world. I leave you with these words. You were given life, you didn't ask for it, but you have it now so make the best of it. Negativity is simply a lack of positivity, if everyone were a little more positive in the way they lived life, the distant dream of world peace might not be that distant.
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Eliseth, I don't understand how you can say that you are more happy and positive than most other people and at the same time say that it would be best if everybody would be dead. Killing people is generally not considered helping them. Most people value life, even with all the misery around. Also, you say you 'have to make the best of the life you are given', again, I can only see contradictions...
Anyway, I'm happy you're not the president of a country with nuclear weapons. :p
And sorry for being off topic..
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I understand, Eliseth. We all contribute to mass killings everyday, of all manner of lives. We despoil and consume everything in sight. I would prefer a button that made us simply disappear from the planet, along with everything we ever created. Yeah, I'd hit it. I'd think about it for about a second. But then I would hit it. Nature would start again and maybe get it right the next time around. The planet has seen many mass extinctions, life always bounces back. Next time with the bees or beetles perhaps. Or maybe the cats. Who knows, but everything we have created is going to end some time and our own egotistical perspectives on how great we are don't matter one whit.
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So, from my position, there are two possible solutions to ending the sick, cruel reality we live in.
There's also a #3. Fly off to Mars and set up a corruption free socialist state with a very strict immigration policy. ;)
Then show Earth the finger. That's the only way the rich-poor gap will ever be closed, by starting again.
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Hey wait, I thought this was about science gone amok, not religio-philosophical angst.
Time for a musical interlude! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnvSQuv-H4)
By the way anyone know where I can scavenge a used spaceship with planet busting capability? I'll be sure to shut out the lights on my way out of here.
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Wow... you are really full of yourself there verden and Eliseth... what gives you the right to determine if millions are better off dead? Talk about an ego. I have to agree I am glad you don't have nukes at your disposal.
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Eliseth and verden:
Let's see who and how I'll misunderstand....
Anyways:
take care while you're pushing buttons! ;)
While waste all these things? Why do it first than when it should be? In any way, the world (the WORLD, not only humans) will end. Why should we torture ourself about how will it die, how many will die and when we'll die? When we'll die we'll die. Isn't this so sweetly simple? While we are alive just have to do the possible, make our life, don't throw it away and try to control ourselves. Don't worry about things that aren't yours... just like other people lives....
And, hey! Five years?! Shall we try to do the better we can and try to live more and better our last years, to make them better than how we think?
and...Did I misunderstood?
Ah, and Prolix:
... Thanks for the musical interlude, I feel "happy and less worried" :P
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If that button exists. And if Eliseth or I are near that button, and we press it and everything ends. Then that is how it was supposed to happen.
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I don't mean to sound terrible... but if things are that bad for you, and you feel that humanity is a lost cause... um... why are you still here?
[EDIT] This is to say... you don't seem to value human life, if you would exterminate it without so much as a second thought. What keeps you going? Why bother with any of it? You say one thing, but are obviously living something completely different.
Or is it just a chance to get a rise out of people... which you've obviously done?
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Hypothetical removal of an entire species and associated objects based upon some imaginary doomsday device is simply a hypothetical discussion. Neither Eliseth or myself have such a power, and if we did, we certainly would not be discussing it here. Treating as though it were a serious consideration is about the same as getting frantic over the experiments that were the original topic of this thread. Philosophy allows us to understand different viewpoints, but cannot force us to understand them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus
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Humanity is no different than the rest of nature. Existence and life are violent things. Life feeds on death. Nature is life. Nature is death. We are just better at both. You don't cure the problem by eliminating life.
I have little doubt that humans (the future version, not what we are today) will be one of the last living things on this little planet when our sun consumes it in a few billion years.
On the point of destroying it all, what is the point? To end suffering by creating suffering? To destroy the planet before we destroy it? To end the chance of a better future because things are bad now in your view? Would you stop at just Earth? Why not destroy the entire universe, as I am sure there are other places out there that have 'suffering' just as bad or worse than Earth. But then, what -would- be the point?
In the end, suffering does not matter in the bigger picture of existence. There will always be suffering and unhappiness. There will always be joy. To destroy them both is simply pointless, as nothing is left but an empty vacuum of nothing. Honestly, is a complete void better than having suffering?
If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? If there is no suffering in a completely empty void, is there anyone to observe it? Is there any benefit at all? In the end, the suffering of billions, trillions, or countless things is better than nothing at all.
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UTM... i agree... life is certainly better than the alternative, at least in my opinion.
verden... you are "hypothetically" willing to annihilate an entire planet, because you feel it is too sad to exist. This isn't just a whim, but is based on you belief system. I obviously don't share the same belief system you do. I am therefore going to call you out for it. This is not sensationalist, or extreme in any way.
I have much more right to continue living, than you do to extinguish all life, regardless of your reasons.
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So, any luck in finding me that spaceship? I wanna blow up the Earth on my way out to make me the ultimate winner of the human race, outliving all the rest of you losers :devil:
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So, any luck in finding me that spaceship? I wanna blow up the Earth on my way out to make me the ultimate winner of the human race, outliving all the rest of you losers :devil:
Just make sure the Dentrassi sneak you onto one of the Vogon Constructor Fleet ships.
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Let me write my will first Prolix :P
sneaks on a spaceship and escapes before anyone notices
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Hey! We're not dead yet! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A)
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So, any luck in finding me that spaceship? I wanna blow up the Earth on my way out to make me the ultimate winner of the human race, outliving all the rest of you losers :devil:
Silly, you already lost. I actually blew up the world a million years ago. You, everyone in the planeshift forums, and the rest of the world is actually just the result of my over active imagination and my loneliness on the surface of Mars. Don't worry though, when I stop thinking your life will end. Everyone wins! :P
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I just happen to have a spaceship here in my possession that you might find useful, but better come get it quick before I decide to go with the suggested option #3. :sorcerer:
Contrary to what has been suggested, I do value human life, in fact all life, above all things, it is the reason I do what I do in life. My hypothetical button is the quick and easy way to starting over, passing the buck onto some other civilization that will more than like form somewhere, because any developing species will most likely go through what we're going through. Yes, life feeds on death, which would be fine if it stopped at death. In fact I'm quite comfortable with the concept of death. I don't want to stop people from dying, I want to stop people from suffering.
I don't mean to sound terrible... but if things are that bad for you, and you feel that humanity is a lost cause... um... why are you still here?
Aha, but here's the trick, I don't think humanity is a lost cause, in fact I firmly believe that we will all eventually rise above the need for conflict and war. I realise however that the road to that point is loong, and not easily traveled. Pushing a button to end the world would be a purely selfish act, and if I were given the opportunity, I would push it, since I am human, and humans are selfish beings. Kinda like when a child steals a cookie from the cookie jar, even though he knows he'll more than likely be given a cookie later, and he knows stealing is wrong... but he knows he won't be caught, so, why not?
/me hands Prolix the keys to the spaceship. "You go ahead, I'll stick with option #2"
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I read what you typed many times before responding to it Eliseth.
In some ways you are correct and in others you are not.
Yes there are a great many selfish people in our world. I knew a man who spent much of his time helping people. Once he told me that if he did not like doing what he did he would not do it. I guess there is a lot of self-satisfaction in helping others. Certainly he does good work for many. Is it so wrong that he finds it self-satisfying to help others?
Then one the other hand a man at work was diagnosed with terminal cancer last week. He told us he would do everything he could to survive. He has been the hospital for a week and now we are told that he might not even have a week left. So here is a man who thought he had an intestinal problem who is now dying. He has a wife and two young children. All he wants to do is live. Someone pushed his button and he is very sad about it I know that. So are all of the people he knows.
If you pushed the button not only would you kill all of us, selfish, unkind and horrible people, but you will also destroy all the good also. I do have to think there are many good people in this world or I would just push my own button because there is really no reason to live then.
Yet we do continue to live. We do it for our families and loved ones who need us for whatever the reason. So I do see your point of view, but I also think that many people are decent people and care.
I know I have not even addressed everything you talked about. I could write you a letter for hours to do so. There is good out there though it might be hard to find it sadly.
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Eliseth: new civilization will always grow. Everywhere something is growing, everywhere something is dying. Forgot buttons, if we're gonna die (sooner or later, it doesn't matter... But we still have some time ;)), something else will do it: there are lot of things to die for, more now. As the ice in the poles that is melting, water will always be more, and the planet will always be more warm, 'till it will be too hot for living here, so, maybe, somebody else, living better in hot places will live here. In a while the sun will die and we all will die. There are more reasons. But why buttons? :P
verden: take care, you aren't such different than other people... we all are humans, we all will die, we all are wrong. Under The Moon is right: we're as cruel as all the world is.
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Pfft. You guys are taking this WAY too seriously. It's a freakin' science experiment.
...an $8 billion experiment, but still...
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Actually we're talking about buttons for end the world :P
Anyways, if you read what we wrote first, we're not worried about the experiment. We started talk about the end of the world itself, whatever it is.
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:) I can tell you exactly what it is.
An eventuality. One we will not have to consider for many, many millenia yet.
Unless we build a better doomsday device that can cause our sun to go supernova earlier than expected. ;)
(I did read the posts, all of them. Just think everyone needs to chill for a bit, whether armageddon is push-button or otherwise.)
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I do so hope we can fix all our worldly problems before we kill this Earth we live on. If not at least I hope that we will not kill each other waiting for that day to come. Hatred is such a waste of energy. Rather I think what makes all different should be cause for rejoicing. Think how boring it would be if we were all the same!
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Is it bad that I've only read about 4 posts in this entire 6 page topic I somehow started?
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:) I can tell you exactly what it is.
An eventuality. One we will not have to consider for many, many millenia yet.
Unless we build a better doomsday device that can cause our sun to go supernova earlier than expected. ;)
(I did read the posts, all of them. Just think everyone needs to chill for a bit, whether armageddon is push-button or otherwise.)
Sure, but we should start think about it, it doesn't matter how much time is between us and that day. If we keep forgetting about what we are doing, what will cause what we are doing, the end will come first, maybe a different one. Maybe, when that day will come, humanity will not be there. Maybe something other will cause our death. And maybe that something will be caused by what we're doing right now. As Mathy, I hope to fix all the problems we created, too. But it's hard, I know. One more reason to start as soon as we can, or there will be no time left.
Is it bad that I've only read about 4 posts in this entire 6 page topic I somehow started?
You should start reading: you'll not loose time, this thread is full of good things to think at, a lot more than what you (and I, I admit it) would expect.
Good luck! :)
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"World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones"
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"Sticks and stones will break my bones, but your words will never harm me" is so untrue.
Someone gave me this quote: 'The tongue has no bones, but it can break bones."
Just maybe we can prevent the "End of the World" Hopefully
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Actually, that quote I listed is in reference to the idea that the third world war will be a massive nuclear holocaust in which all life as know it will be wiped out and that if there are survivors, human kind will be reduced to no more than the era of cavemen. Hence the 4th world war, all they will have is sticks and stones to fight with.
Nostradamus stated it better in his prophecies.
I live by a nuclear power plant. I consider myself lucky, as when the nukes rain down, I'll be wiped out instantly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It-KcebEfW0
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:) Key difference there. "All life as we know it" isn't the same as the end of the world. Whether or not we nuke, poison, murder, betray, and pollute ourselves to extinction is completely irrelevant, because Earth will still be here, and will still support some form of life - even if it has to start from the viral and bacterial levels and work its way back up to sentient.
Or we could get lucky and a meteor blindsides us tomorrow, sparing us the humiliation of prolonged self-destruction! :lol: Either way, if we're going to discuss the end of the world, we should start with an important question:
-Antimatter, or solar supernova?
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Anyone post this yet? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lputIMecalw)
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Actually, that quote I listed is in reference to the idea that the third world war will be a massive nuclear holocaust in which all life as know it will be wiped out and that if there are survivors, human kind will be reduced to no more than the era of cavemen. Hence the 4th world war, all they will have is sticks and stones to fight with.
I'd avoid explaining logic behind that quote, as the sentence itself is witty, but less so logical.
World War Four without global politics developed? ;)
Also, Nostradamus was really an incopetent astrologer, while his "prophecies" are nothing but descriptions of past events. He assumed that since astrological configurations repeat themselves, so will events on the Earth. Sources for his "prophecies" come from historical texts and from the Bible (and in the Bible itself the apocalypse is actually a codified description of world and its politics from two millennia ago). So if Nostradamus really describes any form of "end of the world", then this "end of the world" also happened before Nostradamus was even born :P
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So are we saying that the End of the World is something we as people will cause? Or will it be the End of the World, as we know it today? If our forefathers could return do you think they would recognize anything that is in our world today? Would they say that the world they knew ended? Instead the world had not ended just the world, as they knew it was gone. So then the question is Will the World End? If we could return in 200 years from now would we be surprised to see what the world has become?
There are so many good points here and I do hope that they continue to be voiced. There is still much to be learned by all that is said here.
There are so many speculations about this. Many in history have hoped at one time or another, during wars and conflicts, that the world as we know would end, to end the suffering. Hopefully the future will bring both the conflicts of the health of our planet and the conflicts of mankind to an end. Maybe someday we can live in peace. We can always hope anyway.
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The end of the world was last Tuesday week when I dropped a cream scone and the dog pinched it
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/me hands a cream scone to Mordraugion. If that ends your world then I hope you are now back.
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The end of the world will be when I finally get a cookie from Rizin's bakery. That will also be the day that pigs will start flying, the fat lady will sing, and that hell will freeze over.
;)
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Hmm, not this week, Neko... (http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Nord-Tr%c3%b8ndelag/Stj%c3%b8rdal/Hell/)
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The End of the World
It means many things to many people; that is obvious from this thread. I mentioned someone dear to me was dying. He went to see his doctor complaining of stomach pain and two weeks later he is now dead. Sad times make us think about things differently. In such a short time this kind man with a wife and two young children world’s ended today. It has come to us as a shock.
In any case, I want to mention that even if the Earth does not explode or wither away and die during our life time, we should make the most of each and everyday. Live your life the best you can without regrets because you never know what will happen and when.
Whether you believe in a religious ending or a scientific ending we should live our lifes to the fullest. There is no soapbox here just the fact that live is short and making the most out of life is important. Maybe the world will end as we know it or maybe not. In any case be kind and caring to make it a better world for all.
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One thing in particular springs to mind when I read Mathy's post, and I just had to share it with all of you. http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29453
Mindboglingly hilarious edit!: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/carpe_diem_says_man_who_spent The latest article that I didn't notice before I saw this thread. All I can say is lol.
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lol wut?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmBDgAcIt-0&NR=1
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Well with me the world can blow up or sucked by a black hole and i have hear a lot a bout the end of the world every day ,we can die at any sec :sleeping: .So i'm enjoy whatever i have now.Maybe i can never see the sun again but who know ,nothing is safe any way like i'm sitting infront of the computer and the lighting can strike the house and i die :'( and the earth is already dying slowly...... Nothing can last forever ,Will we end up like fallout or we never even reach to that kind of level
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but is that necessarily the end of the world? and are we talking about just the end of earth, or the end of humanity as we know it? or are we talking about the end of the universe?
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The world is too big there are alot of life form out the yes i know
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The Hadron Machine broke down. Oops. The world is spared for a few more months.
I guess some government's spy agency found out what the swiss are really up to and sabotaged it.
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The Hadron Machine broke down. Oops. The world is spared for a few more months.
I guess some government's spy agency found out what the swiss are really up to and sabotaged it.
Hm, I haven't heard. Link?
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Heres a link (http://google.com) ;)
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but is that necessarily the end of the world? and are we talking about just the end of earth, or the end of humanity as we know it? or are we talking about the end of the universe?
I would rather not know. I do hope it will not happen in my life time nor my children's either. Though some say if Wall Street does crash it will be the end of the world. The last time people jumped out of windows when it happened. So does that mean the End of the World means different things to different people? I wonder if there could be a better way of life. What we hold on to so dearly could change and would that change be so very bad? The End, I wonder......
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Though some say if Wall Street does crash it will be the end of the world.
Nah, it'll be a lot like the collapse of the USSR. The 'other' systems will probably go on okayish (China etc. where manpower is worth way more than promises and confidence), the people at the top will disappear and be okay, and the people will suffer a whole lot.
Then things will slowly rebuild, hopefully under better systems. End of the world for some people maybe, but not for everyone.
Unless people at the top decide "what the hell" and push the red buttons for a laugh :P
Or maybe that doesn't matter. Apparently the sun's output is at a strangely low low and could go out at any moment! :o /endrumour
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The End of the World means different things to different people. I guess it depends on how greedy one is.
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The end of the world will be when the A.Z.T. factory stops making Arizona Iced Green Tea. I am so addicted. >o)
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*Gaian backs on the thread*
Uhm...
Wait a moment:
are we still talking about how should the world end (because Eliseth or verden will push a button, or because of black holes,...) and about what we can do to make it end as late as it's possible, or we started talking about what is the end of the world for everybody?
Surely, when you die we can say that it will be your end of the world... well, maybe it's something like "your end on the world".
Obviously, there are metaphorical versions of the end of the world, as the example of Wall Street or the addicting Arizona Iced Green Tea or the cream scone.
Anyways in a way or in another one everything will come to an end: the world, the humanity (and with it Wall Street, the Arizona Iced Green Tea and all the cream scones.)...
And something new will begin.
Maybe first that the Big Bang there's been something else, destroyed by something other that's been destroyed by something other,..
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Quite simplistically you idea is plausible. What we know is the definition of what we don't.
Still. I prefer to think that i will not die and will never end. That gives me all the more of a push forward to do as much as possible. I'm the kind of person who would gladly cut you open for a little fun with a scalpel and if cryogenic freezing becomes available in my lifetime I'm going for it.
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Entevir: you're right, thinking that you're immortal will make you react more easily to harder things, so be happy: I'm not going to dice up all what you said and raise another complaint ;)
Sadly everybody will die, who soon who late. Science is making our life more long, but we'll never be immortal because nobody will never be alive after if you've diced up his brain.
It should be another interesting thing to talk about, but doing this we'll jump off this thread.
So, you all, keep thinking, if you have the time, please. What can we do? Or, better, can we do something?
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We are trying to make things better, or shall I say most countries are. So with more fuel efficient cars and using wind and solar power are we really helping to make the earth last longer? Will using what nature has given us help? Or someday will the sun still grow so hot that the earth will explode anyway? All I can say is I hope I will not see this in my life time. Can we prevent was is inevitable? If it going to happen then it is going to happen. Isn't space exploration so that one day the chosen few can find a new home before it is to late. Hopefully this is a long time off as I said. So in the mean time I guess we can try to do the best we can to make it a healthier planet in which to live.
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The world, by human means, is beyond repair. Take your death with pride, or at least dignity. Maybe if we're lucky some aliens will come upon the ruins known as earth, then perhaps everything we've known and lived for may be a footnote in some history book of a superior specie's school book.
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If the world is going to end in a exact date. For sure. No doubt.
Then...
I'm going to do anything and everything. :devil:
Then again, so many people have predicted the end of the world. They were wrong. Know how they were wrong? I'm alive.
But their is still the Myan calendar prediction in a couple years, they have never been wrong before.
SET YOUR CLOCKS PEOPLE
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Well, then let's see if the Mayan calendar was done just by somebody that didn't know what to do and started throw numbers around and decided that that year the world will end... or maybe thy did a good thing, maybe they were right.
Live, while you're alive... just live, and do what you can :)
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With the whole Mayan calender thing.... it doesn't end on that final day, it just starts a new cycle that would take another umpteen hundred years to go through....
but crazy theories of the world blowing up are much more interesting to read about than boring facts.
/shrug
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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/oracle/9941/
Maybe this applies. I guess it what you believe in. Who knows who is right and who is wrong? Maybe it might not happen at all. Of course is nothing wrong with making the most of each and everyday anyway, right?
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I believe that geocities websites are so 1990.
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You know, I've been thinking about something completely ridiculous... What if the world has ended. What if every time someone predicts the end of the world, the world does end, but we continue on in another dimension. And there are branches of our dimension, each a different end-of-the-world. But our minds/spirits/whatever can't exist in nothing, so they are transferred to the dimension where we're alive, so that it seems as if the world never ended.
That would be freaky.
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You know, I've been thinking about something completely ridiculous... What if the world has ended. What if every time someone predicts the end of the world, the world does end, but we continue on in another dimension. And there are branches of our dimension, each a different end-of-the-world. But our minds/spirits/whatever can't exist in nothing, so they are transferred to the dimension where we're alive, so that it seems as if the world never ended.
That would be freaky.
There's a similar quantum theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ManyWorlds.html
In essence, for every quantum event that happens, the universe splits into every single possibility, one of which the observer stays in.
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...Sweet. Great minds think alike. :]
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Only one way to test it. Shoot yourself in the face.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-Does-Quantum-Suicide-Work-77343.shtml
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In an alternate reality, I probably did. :)
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Maybe you have. Stared down the barrel of a gun lately perhaps ?
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No, that sort of perspective just means that one does not have to take any chances or be responsible for one's own life choices. Most philosophies, and all religions are nonsense. Stick to what you can prove, demonstrate, or measure objectively. The rest is manipulation of many by a few, for the benefit of the few.
If we limited ourselves to what we objectively know, I think we would be left with very little. We know things through experience. But our way of experiencing the world is inherently flawed, since we experience the world by our own consciousness, and consciousness is not a perfect or bias-free instrument.
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Yep. Science is the most trial and error thing we have. After those damned rubric cubes.
Seriously though in this case the many get the idea that they are safe to try new possible dangerous things. How does that make sense to make people do ? Besides me knowing that in some parallel universe an exact copy of me(or vice versa) lives on isn't really helping with the dead problem. And what are the odds that out of an unfathomably insanely large number of universes i just so happen to be the one that flukes out through everything.
In the end this theory tells us "Don't worry somehow, somewhere you didn't die. Too bad it wasn't here eh ?".
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If that button exists. And if Eliseth or I are near that button, and we press it and everything ends. Then that is how it was supposed to happen.
That's what scares me. Not that such buttons exist, or will exist, but there are people who will actually press them.
Think about how scary technology is right now. Think of what it might look like in 5,000 years.
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Humanity is no different than the rest of nature. Existence and life are violent things. Life feeds on death. Nature is life. Nature is death. We are just better at both. You don't cure the problem by eliminating life.
Can I disagree with this? I think that humans are very different creatures. We create culture and history. We aren't simply driven by instinct. We have the ability of choice, and to weigh options. I think those things set us apart.
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Humanity is no different than the rest of nature. Existence and life are violent things. Life feeds on death. Nature is life. Nature is death. We are just better at both. You don't cure the problem by eliminating life.
Can I disagree with this? I think that humans are very different creatures. We create culture and history. We aren't simply driven by instinct. We have the ability of choice, and to weigh options. I think those things set us apart.
Culture and history are nothing to anything else but humans (at least on earth ;)). It's like when a monkey smells it's finger that he just farted on: total crap, or as significant as a fish in water. they're just features we humans have, but we can't lay eggs.
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The end of the world will be when the A.Z.T. factory stops making Arizona Iced Green Tea. I am so addicted. >o)
Oh, I love that stuff, but I can't drink it because of the corn syrup. :(
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Think about how scary technology is right now. Think of what it might look like in 5,000 years.
I think in 5,000 year's we will have created the perpetual engine and be living in a society which has all it needs because we will have the technology to synthesize anything we want. But that does not matter to me at present because I've got at most 70 year's left to live. So i leave the problems so far off to people that are some 40 generation's down.
The end of the world will be when the A.Z.T. factory stops making Arizona Iced Green Tea. I am so addicted. >o)
Oh, I love that stuff, but I can't drink it because of the corn syrup. :(
I just drink the blood of innocents. I'm Dick Chaney.
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Anyone read Sydney Pollard's Idea of Progress?
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but global warming is getting worse because of us. Thats why we reuse reduse and recycle
that might stop it yaaaa
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Thin ice there. You don't want to go into such a controversial topic here.
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I'd groan on cue here, but I'd risk sounding repetitive. :P
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Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.