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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Shaman on December 07, 2008, 06:01:06 pm

Title: Kran Tongues
Post by: Shaman on December 07, 2008, 06:01:06 pm
Pretty straightforward: do Krans have tongues? If not, how do they go about pronouncing "L" and other letters?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: zanzibar on December 07, 2008, 06:44:48 pm
Since they don't breath, how do they talk at all?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Vorsh on December 07, 2008, 08:25:08 pm
This is assuming Kran have gaul bladders, instead of getting gaul stones, do they get gaul flesh? ???
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Under the moon on December 07, 2008, 08:29:51 pm
They speak in a similar way an electric speaker does. They vibrate a crystal matrix in their neck. The sound is then magnified through throat and head structures, and formed into the final sound by a tongue. The main function of the tongue is the same as it is in humans, though, to move food around for complete chewing.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: zanzibar on December 07, 2008, 08:32:22 pm
They speak in a similar way an electric speaker does. They vibrate a crystal matrix in their neck. The sound is then magnified through throat and head structures, and formed into the final sound by a tongue. The main function of the tongue is the same as it is in humans, though, to move food around for complete chewing.

A tongue is a muscle.  Do Kran have muscles?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Under the moon on December 07, 2008, 08:39:01 pm
Yes. Kran are soft and squishy on the inside, crunchy on the outside. Somewhat like an insect. Kran skin is made of stone, yes, but it is a flexible stone substance built from the inside out. Much like tree bark. It is continually renewed, as much of what a Kran eats is deposited on the underside of their skin to keep their natural armor strong.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Shaman on December 07, 2008, 08:41:08 pm
Yes. Kran are soft and squishy on the inside, crunchy on the outside. Somewhat like an insect. Kran skin is made of stone, yes, but it is a flexible stone substance built from the inside out. Much like tree bark. It is continually renewed, as much of what a Kran eats is deposited on the underside of their skin to keep their natural armor strong.

Hear that Vannaka?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: zanzibar on December 07, 2008, 08:58:55 pm
Yes. Kran are soft and squishy on the inside, crunchy on the outside. Somewhat like an insect. Kran skin is made of stone, yes, but it is a flexible stone substance built from the inside out. Much like tree bark. It is continually renewed, as much of what a Kran eats is deposited on the underside of their skin to keep their natural armor strong.

I always thought they were stone through and through.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: zanzibar on December 07, 2008, 09:02:08 pm
Ok, so this means that kran are warm blooded, they drink water and eat organic matter?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Shaman on December 07, 2008, 09:03:50 pm
Ok, so this means that kran are warm blooded, they drink water and eat organic matter?

They drink water, yes. The others, I don't know.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Zontick on December 07, 2008, 10:30:20 pm
Since they don't breath, how do they talk at all?

Actually, it says in the documentation that they do breathe - just slowly enough to be underwater (which is a physiological novelty). Personally, I wonder at them breathing at all, but it's not my fiction.

I'd think talking would be done by mimicry of vibrations that other species make.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Under the moon on December 08, 2008, 12:30:38 am
They breath through their skin, not lungs. The documentation will be updated to reflect that information more clearly.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: zanzibar on December 08, 2008, 01:46:08 am
They breath through their skin, not lungs. The documentation will be updated to reflect that information more clearly.

How wide are their pores?
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Under the moon on December 08, 2008, 02:39:40 am
About this big -> . Give or take a few pixels.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Zontick on December 08, 2008, 02:53:06 am
They breath through their skin, not lungs. The documentation will be updated to reflect that information more clearly.

Good. That would account for breathing underwater - through spiracles rather than lungs/gills. This means choking a kran is practically impossible unless they are removed from their required nutrients completely... not even a toe outside.
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: khoridor on December 08, 2008, 03:19:14 am
It may also mean than Krans shouldn't wear anything, otherwise they could die from asphyxiation.  ;D
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: Zontick on December 08, 2008, 04:21:15 am
It may also mean than Krans shouldn't wear anything, otherwise they could die from asphyxiation.  ;D

Well, you can't drown a cockroach without completely immersing it... (seriously. Try it.)

But the nagging question I have is... why do they breathe? A silicon based life form, using oxygen, would likely produce silicon oxides - like silicon dioxide, etc. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that they regenerate out to in, which kind of makes sense, but I'm not sure that this would work in the same way either.

Other questions would be about senses. Vision, etc. I mean - I appreciate the magic of Kran (my character is Kran), but if we start picking at it there's much that needs to be explained. The bit about 'munching diamonds' in one of the quests indicates carbon intake...

I do think that there is an easy way out of this, though. Through the history, the Kran were created by tapping the power of the Crystal. This involves magic, so a golem sort of concept works - but if someone wants to dig on the scientific side, I'd suggest that instead of strong acids digesting the nutrients... maybe it's more of nuclear fission. That explains how carbon could be used by a silicon based life form... :-)
Title: Re: Kran Tongues
Post by: khoridor on December 08, 2008, 08:37:56 am
Is autopsy legal in Yliakum?   :innocent: