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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Madoring on February 05, 2009, 10:42:39 pm
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I'm not very wise when it comes to met... What is the best way to go about getting leveled up? Do i just stay with iron stocks/ingots? Or do i start to do Steel, Silver and gold when i can? Just wondering, because i have no idea!
PS. i dont think this is a violation of Board rules...is it?
Thanks to everyone for all of the great help! Very Good posts!
Back to the Forge.
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If you see me in-game, ask there... or PM me here and I will answer... I think the answer would be considered a spoiler.
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not sure how to PM people...
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um... you don't have enough posts yet... hrm... In general... start using the things you are able to make past certain levels... Iron gets you where you need to go... but slowly...
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madoring
First welcome to Planeshift.
Second you need to tell Mythryndel which server you will play on and what your in game name is.
Third to PM him you need ten posts so no worries yet. When the time comes click on his name and you will see where it says to send him a private message. Mythryndel is a great player to learn from.
Have fun.
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ok thanks... maybe you could E-mail me?
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Im not a newb, i was just curious about the met. training is all. thanks for the welcome though!
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careful of double-posting... they prefer you modify your first post... but I tried to send an e-mail... let me know if you didn't get it.
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/me admires Mythryndel's helpfulness.
Have you thought of applying for GM?
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Mythryndel metalurgy process is not a spolier it goes along with this guide which is allowed on the forum http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=28189.0 and also http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=33108.msg382099#msg382099 and to madoring please dont post your email address on the forum you will get spam that way, and you cant pm till you have 10 posts.
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Caarrie, I read this as asking what would be "best" to use for training... not a question of "how do I train" metallurgy. I wanted to respect the forum rules on spoilers, sorry if I made an incorrect assumption in either case.
@Mathy... um... I don't play enough as it is right now, but when in-game, I do try to help as much as I can.
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Caarrie, I read this as asking what would be "best" to use for training... not a question of "how do I train" metallurgy. I wanted to respect the forum rules on spoilers, sorry if I made an incorrect assumption in either case.
Talad has a policy on the forums that if the "spoiler" will help a player from wasting their time and loosing materials it can be found on the forum this is why we have crafting guides, so going with this the info you have not said could be said to help people in the future.
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To answer the original question then, if you are training mining at the same time start with tin as it is more valuable to sell as ingots then move to bronze or steel ingots. always train on ingots while they give experience as you will get more practice for smelting 10 ingots than one stock. Another thing to take note of is that ore weighs 10 times molten ore or ingots so you can smelt a full load of ore into ingots and then get more ore to smelt. In this way you can build up a considerable stockpile of ingots to keep you busy. Precious metals seem to give less practice as you only get it for casting but not melting.
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I personally have found that Steel ingots give the best result. I have not seen where using stocks gives any more practice points, takes longer to melt, and you slag more material whenever you are not successful. Steel also has the benefit of giving practice both when you cast it and when you melt it down. Iron and platinum both only give you practice points for one or the other activity. I don't remember about silver/gold.
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we are in agreement. Smelting one stock gives exactly as much practice as smelting one ingot, generally speaking. Another thing I should mention about alloys is that as soon as you hit the combine button you will want to separate the stack of ten into individual items. Also if you have enough ore to combine several times you should put the first batch in and combine it then remove all material from the furnace and proceed to the next batch to combine and continue in this manner as many times as possible. Once you have combined all your material you can then put each individual [coal|steel|tin|copper] sludge(?) into its own slot filling the furnace if it is not busy. In this way you can work on 16 at a time piling them into your inventory as they complete and keeping busy. At lower levels 10 or 20 units will suffice to gain a level and more will be required as you go along.
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All good information. But i want to point out a significant, IMO point.
Look in your book, figure out what you can work, and get a set amount of ignots of each of them (I like 10, round numbers, when i did this) and then note your PPs and exp level, and melt and cast 10 copper, lets say, note whether you get 10 practice exp (need to be trained) or 20. (some get it while melting, some while casting, and some, both) as well as the amount of PPs you get. repeat this with all of them, then you can calculate exactly how much practice and PPs you get per each one.
This system works with comparing mines, comparing weapons (time it takes to kill a given mob, or even amont damage difference between Q50 short sword and crafted one). or any other similar questions. I find it is better to experiment what works better for you. Theoretically, your character MIGHT get more PPs point working bronze than steel, even if someone else gets more working steel. That being said, since mentioned above, I like using steel to train, good practice and PP, and can reuse it to craft weapons later. Bronze and iron can only be used to make shields so far AFAIK.