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Title: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 08:49:09 pm
It seems that most people on these boards have the attention span of a BRICK...I can't understand why 99.8 of the topics start with a good point, and end with a completely random thing.  For example

You see a great looking topic with tons of replies and views. "Cool I think I'll read that one!" 
You open it and read page one, its good.  Page two, Not so much. Page 3-70 GARBAGE.
Maybe we should stay on topic!  If you want to get off topic, making a new post would be appreciated...
Just a thought
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Nykolai Raskaniov on February 17, 2009, 08:54:16 pm
It's a forum, therefore people discuss and often go astray. It's not always a bad thing, you know, but sometimes you're right. At the same time it's also a matter of self-education and understanding the forum culture, if I may call it that way.

Different people, different backgrounds, different expectations.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Mythryndel on February 17, 2009, 09:12:34 pm
So, In last nights airing of <insert prime time drama show here>...  :)

Seriously, I agree with you Madoring. It would be nice if people who visit forums did not appear to have a serious case of ADD...
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Mathy Stockington on February 17, 2009, 09:20:04 pm
I also agree, but sometimes going off topic, [I said sometimes] can bring up interesting ideas that were not in the original post.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 09:48:42 pm
Yeah i agree with Mathy, but for real its easy to go make your own post instead of ruining someone elses.  you could just as easily say "Here is what i think" and link to your thread...Right?
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Mathy Stockington on February 17, 2009, 09:56:34 pm
I think neko would delete or lock it if he thought it was a duplicate though I am not sure Madoring. 
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 09:59:31 pm
Oh i see what you mean.  But still...it does annoy me that posts go way off topic was all I was getting at, and I wondered if anyone else felt that way is all. :innocent:
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Mathy Stockington on February 17, 2009, 10:12:56 pm
Sure it does Madoring. I wish that people would finish writing their stories on the forum also. It is like not being able to finish a good book [in some cases anyway] but what can we do about it though?
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 10:15:32 pm
I hear you there.  Nothing we can really do about it.../me sobs
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: neko kyouran on February 17, 2009, 10:27:10 pm
Oh i see what you mean.  But still...it does annoy me that posts go way off topic

link proof and i can give you a reason why it is what it is.  :]

Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 10:31:48 pm
http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34800.0

but it doesnt matter if it is my post or any post.  All i'm trying to say is this board gets way to off topic is all.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: verden on February 17, 2009, 11:19:20 pm
Yeah, it happens. Most of the time it is just innocent digression from the topic. Most of the time...
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: zanzibar on February 17, 2009, 11:38:21 pm
It's worse on other forums.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 17, 2009, 11:57:47 pm
I am talking about this forum...Unless you want to go  :offtopic: and discuss the worst forums on the internet...
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: neko kyouran on February 18, 2009, 12:15:19 am
http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34800.0

but it doesnt matter if it is my post or any post.  All i'm trying to say is this board gets way to off topic is all.

There is a difference between going off topic, and having threads have a discussion that evolves and continues.  There have been many a discussion on this topic before.  If you don't allow a thread to evolve and continue then all you get is hundreds of threads with one or two replies with "yep, i agree with that." or "nope I don't agree with that."  but they can't add any more to that because if it isn't the exact same as the original post, it would be "offtopic".

In the thread you linked, I see nothing wrong.

If a thread is made discussing how people like apples, and someone comes along and says how much they also like oranges and the thread continues on to cover more fruits, that is fine.  If a thread is made discussing how people like vegetables, and then someone comes and posts something about how like reading books by 19th century Russian authors, then that is not fine, and the topics will be split.

These forums are actually very, very tame as compared to the typical game forum.  We're actually quite strict on forum rules here.  heck, if we were like a regular games forums, I'd have made fun of you for never posting any of your topics in the right forum section and never actually responded to anything you wanted to discuss.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: verden on February 18, 2009, 01:11:54 am
They are also very, very tame compared to not all that long ago...
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Madoring on February 18, 2009, 03:39:04 am

  heck, if we were like a regular games forums, I'd have made fun of you for never posting any of your topics in the right forum section and never actually responded to anything you wanted to discuss.
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I just assumed i could post this in forum and website discussions because thats what this would be...

EDIT   But I guess I will just skip the ones I dont want to read, Since there is no way I will win this battle!
Thanks for your time...
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: neko kyouran on February 18, 2009, 02:48:20 pm

  heck, if we were like a regular games forums, I'd have made fun of you for never posting any of your topics in the right forum section and never actually responded to anything you wanted to discuss.

I just assumed i could post this in forum and website discussions because thats what this would be...
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Actually, the 6+ threads you've made ove the past couple of days you've originally started them all in the hydlaa plaza off topic not related to the game discussion area when in fact most of them were about the game and as such were moved to the appropriate general game discussion area, and this thread moved to this section.  The mod team does more forum clean up than you think. 
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Bamko on February 18, 2009, 03:04:06 pm
I agree many people go off topic.  Some of it is as neko explained I think (evolving discussions) that are just "walking away" from where the original poster probably wanted to go with the discussion.  Since this is a public forum, that happens.

Some of it may be trolls trolling, snarks snarking or even emos emoting.   >o)

but it happens, and it probably will not change and it happens only to the extent that it is allowed to, no more. 

Either way, i would not let it "urk" you to death.  maybe "something that I was just thinking that's annoying" but urk to death? 

Do I disagree it can be frustrating?  Nope.

Do I think it will stop? nope.

Do i think it is something we can live with?  yeah.

I hope this helps somehow.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Eliseth on February 18, 2009, 03:18:33 pm
We try our best to guide discussions along if they start going astray, and closing them if they get out of hand or redundant, but we also try to be fair and open minded. The last thing we need is a rigid police force removing anything that doesn't relate directly to the topic. I'm not saying thats what you're suggesting, I'm just making a point.

Neko is right, discussions evolve. It's not that people have short attention spans, it's that people are people, complete with free will and freedom of expression. If however you come across a thread that you feel is headed into the ridiculously off topic zone, please send us a report, that is what the report button is there for after all.

Thanks for you input madoring.
Title: Re: What Urks Me To Death!
Post by: Mathy Stockington on February 18, 2009, 03:30:33 pm
We also have to remember English is not everyone's first language and some have a hard time understanding. This could make us go off topic also. Patience and curtsy are key.