PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pielgrzym on May 08, 2003, 11:16:36 pm
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Let\'s think about hipothetical situation: one guild decided to control one city and they\'re not lettin\' anyone in because, let\'s say, that\'s the only place where you can get some very rare magical robe. But the other guild thinks that it\'s not right and it\'s their guild that should control the city. And then we have war... Let\'s say that 30 guys on each side and we will see a real virtual battle or even we can take part in that! Completely new thing in the world of computer games! Now tell me that PlaneShift won\'t be special! Who will dare to say that?!
I will say more. Controlled city can became a country where one guild will rule and it\'s gonna be even better if it would be national guild... For example all Germans will be meeting there. Everyone will know that in THIS city you have to speak German or you can be killed by ruling guild members. :D
Greetings!!!
If you\'ve got some other interesting ideas, please share them with me and others PlaneShift fans just below!
PS. I\'m not German. It was only example.
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Then you haven\'t read much of the forums.
There will not be PvP. So anyone \"killing\" another character will not happen. It\'s impossible.
I have a problem with people staking out \"turf\" in the game as it again turns into \"my guild against the world\" rather than \"my guild interacts with the world.\" If this turns into some sort of anarchic mafia-run game, I won\'t be really interested in playing.
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and ain\'t it kindda races to kill all non german speaking players in city...like in ur example....but it is still kindda cool though....
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If you like the idea about having your own country/city with your guild, go get enough members and gold, and settle a whole country or just build enough houses to make a city... Simple?
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I don\'t like the idea of gathering all, lets say germans, at one place. If you ask me, one of the best stuff with mmog is that there are no borders. Nobody cares if you are a muslim or an orthodox, american or russian.
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Congratulations. You just invented ShadowBane.
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Gronomist giuld war will be possible i beleave so if you run into a person from the giuld your at war with you can attack on site but unless everyone in the city was part of the giuld you had declared war on you couldn\'t clean the city out for your giuld only becasue there would be people you couldn\'t kill
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yea, i must admit, seeing a massive battle on a mmorpg would be very impressive to see,but think of the reality, not everyone is in a guild, what would they do if they wanted the special robes, which your guild has held captive?? it would suck for them. Player killing really on causes problems, unless ofcourse there is a special arena created for those who want to player kill, but walking around being able to kill another player would not be great at all.
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Originally posted by Vengeance
Congratulations. You just invented ShadowBane.
Yepp - you?re damn right: SHADOWBANE is the best and greatest MMORPG for individual possibilities . . .
- even when the final version have cut away some nice features...... AND the european release will come (with MUCH luck) next year :(
Planeshift sounds great because its for free - and damn good work! But for future-MMORPG we need a persitent world where you can FIGHT for your ideas and MAKE them real.
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the company which bught the license of SB is gone into bankruptcy and the prceed wil lasst very long and if it come there will be a beta first so i dont have hope to play it (btw im beta in asia of sb *G* )
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As for the main idea, I think it is interesting, although it is kind of harsh. Perhaps it can be the character that counts, not the player. Guilds can control a city, although running a whole country may be a little far off into the distance. However, perhaps certain guilds that have recieved a great reputation and have great power can do such a thing, although unlawful characters entering cannot be killed. There will instead be a barrier that is magical blocking everyone not fitting in the qualifications out. It can also be a gathering place to look into the interests of the entire group of people instead of just a guild.
More of my confused thoughts on paper.
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Racism in the game (in game races only racism) would be an interesting thing, which brings me to the idea, \"Mass battles\" Where people can sign up and fight with the rest, like a guild battle, execpt non guild people could all join together.
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Player run cities would be cool, eventually someones house would become the center of town, then that town could file with the devs for cityzenship (which would make them a city) and part of that would have them elect a governor... It would be very cool to see guilds mold together to make their own countries.
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I don\'t support the idea only because only members would go in probably. Other than that maybe a town or village would be fine, not a major city.
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It would be kinda fun to see race-wars like Enkidukai vs. Kran, or Xacha vs. Stonebreakers :)
Racist-clans would be fun too. Heh, it reminds me of Morrowind where the cat-race and the lizard-race (what was their name again?) often were used as slaves.
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pvp & pk ...i think the \"arena\" idea will go through ...and it seems pretty ok to me.
i don\'t know what these turf-wars would bring except hatred ...i\'m playing PS BECAUSE it\'s NOT like ordinary MMORPGs ...you don\'t bash every person you see, you don\'t \"0\\`\\`n5 t|-|3 |/|0o|3zzz\" ...it\'s a nice relaxing friendly world out there ...don\'t spoil it!! :evil:
you want it more like shadowbane? well, go and buy the focking SB, or you can still download the source and make your own game based on PS, CS and CEL :]
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Heh, calm down. I didn\'t say that I wanted PS to become a new SB (Never played it before). I\'m not a PK either, I\'m just saying that MRCB (Massive Racist Clan Battles) ;) would be cool.
BTW. LOL, Massive :D It\'s supposed to be mas sive. (The devs really need to change that).
EDIT. And they did... :)
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Originally posted by Fanomatic2000
Heh, calm down. I didn\'t say that I wanted PS to become a new SB (Never played it before). I\'m not a PK either, I\'m just saying that MRCB (Massive Racist Clan Battles) ;) would be cool.
BTW. LOL, Massive :D It\'s supposed to be mas sive. (The devs really need to change that).
i don\'t see a difference actually ...i mean, most people will join guilds, and there\'ll become \"guilds\" that\'d concentrate only on killing others ...so it\'ll just become a big gang-bang ...nah, i\'m still against it ...if two guilds would have a problem with eachother they should either solve it in a peaceful manner or go into the woods or another \"arena\" to settle it the other way
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Clan-battles will be included if I have understood it right.
Seen from a RP perspective there is nothing wrong in being racistic. For example, if I play a Drow in a RPG, being racistic is part of my role. As long as it\'s seen from a roleplaying-perspective there is nothing wrong with anything.
What you\'re talking about is griefer-clans who kills people just because they can.
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I have a problem with racism actually being enforced in a game. There\'s plenty of that in real life - it only saddens me to see it even in our entertainment. Worse, to actually be considered \"cool\".
If it supposedly makes things \"more realistic\", it\'s why I usually play a character completely outside it\'s stereotype. Since there are few people in the real world that fall into a stereotype, though that\'s all that bigots see. Oddly enough, when doing this I\'ve been told I\'m not \"rping properly\". *boggle*
Ugh...maybe I\'m getting too old for this stuff...
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Racism in your entertainment...
See, in Pen&Paper-RPGs there is also racism included, but its not a rule to play. If the master (game leader) is about to pop up a group of npc-elves right in front of an player-orc group, the players have to decide how to talk to them. It\'s just a personal manner then. But the rulebook says: \"Elves don\'t like orcs, they are brute and dumb. Orcs don\'t like elves, they are arrogant and weak.\" and so on. Call this racism, the players and the master have to handle with this their own way.
I would like to see some racism, but only to get more \"tasty\" situations, not to see some battles and blood. It\'s also a way of RPing... so everybody should consider on his own whether to be a racist to certain races or not.
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Back to the idea of guilds controlling cities...
Why not organise every month a tournament, in which all guilds could fight, and the winners become administrators of a town ?
Each town would need a definite number of administrators (a duke, a count or a mayor for each, his followers, and guards). For each town there would be a tournament, where the selection will be different for each town : 30 vs 30 for one, 5 vs 5 for a second one, 1 vs 1 for a third one, wisards vs wisards for a fourth one, and other competitions, like relay races, poems, stupid but funny games like \"the one that will be able to bring back the most original creature to a certain place\"... This could make really entertaining events, but of course they would need the GM to be there to be judges.
To go on with my idea, once your guild won a competition, they gain control over a town or a region. They get short-time titles, like \"Lord of ThisTown\" or \"Guard of ThisTown\", maybe the guild makes money, or they get some extra power...
I know my idea is still a little disorderly, but I am sure we can exctract some good in it if discussing it :)
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Originally posted by John McFo
Racism in your entertainment...
See, in Pen&Paper-RPGs there is also racism included, but its not a rule to play. If the master (game leader) is about to pop up a group of npc-elves right in front of an player-orc group, the players have to decide how to talk to them. It\'s just a personal manner then. But the rulebook says: \"Elves don\'t like orcs, they are brute and dumb. Orcs don\'t like elves, they are arrogant and weak.\" and so on. Call this racism, the players and the master have to handle with this their own way.
I would like to see some racism, but only to get more \"tasty\" situations, not to see some battles and blood. It\'s also a way of RPing... so everybody should consider on his own whether to be a racist to certain races or not.
ok, i have to submerge to this fact ...but i haven\'t seen any mentioning of hostility between races in PS (read the story!) ...maybe i\'m wrong, but i don\'t rebember reading anything about hostility
and i don\'t see why this woudn\'t work with the \"arena\" idea ...i still support the \"arena\" idea
...when you think about it it\'s (the \"arena\" idea) still the best we can do with unless we make full PK or even PvP and maybe a newbie shield and live guard players ...that would be great and the most life-like ...but the problem is to find enough very reliable players that would play the guards ...they would get paid and would have supperior accessories and strenghtened abilities by default