PlaneShift

Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Geoni on February 03, 2010, 04:55:53 am

Title: Models by age
Post by: Geoni on February 03, 2010, 04:55:53 am
I've played a number of children players and they of course don't look any bit like children, more like adults [obviously] I think that they should have 4 model setting for age to choose from in future versions:

-Child [I can't see playing a little Ylian, or Dwarf boy when he has a full beard, and actually feel IC!]
-Teen
-Adult
-Elderly [hunchbacks, gray hair, wrinkles, etc]

For what i know, these can apply to all of the races, (maybe not the kran for elderly) but for most. I think it will make the experience of playing a different age other than somebody in their 20's and 30's which is the age that the models seem based around in PS in my opinion. I think that the creation of the age in the model should also impact the stats of the character, say an elderly character would have very low strength, endurance, and agility, but make up in intelligence, will, and charisma. I'm not sure if this has been posted or not before, but it's my major wish out of this game.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Dralion1221 on February 03, 2010, 05:07:47 am
I think we just need a height adjuster for now lol.

A lot of this stuff would probably come in say, 2-3 years? Especially with all the other stuff going on right now.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Tadano Hitoshi on February 03, 2010, 06:09:11 am
I really like this idea (though I`d be happy with child/adult/elderly).
Would you impose skill limits depending on character age? I`d find it rather unbelievable to find children with maxed sword and heavy armour skills (perhaps also attribute limits so a child cannot have the strength to wear platemail, etc). And, at the other end: a degrading of physical skills and abilities as your character becomes elderly?

In the short-term, some more face-options at character creation (from pimples to wrinkles) and the ability to remove beards could be used to present youth or age.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: LigH on February 03, 2010, 08:29:51 am
Indeed...

We still lack of even one model - and you already "demand" several for each single race and gender. ;)

Find an exceptional modeller and animator who enjoys spending his leisure time for us, and we will have it "soon (tm)". :thumbup:
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: weltall on February 03, 2010, 08:47:06 am
as of yesterday it's possible to have differently sized models at the same time ... but... this comes at the cost of ram use... each size must have an unique model in ram
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Mordraugion on February 03, 2010, 09:58:28 am
There are reasons for the lack of children in Yliakum which will be revealed in the fullness of time
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on February 04, 2010, 12:49:14 am
I must say, it's hard enough modelling one model for each race, let alone children too.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Sarras Volcae on February 04, 2010, 06:32:39 am
There are reasons for the lack of children in Yliakum which will be revealed in the fullness of time

they were sold to gypsies or eaten by ulbers?
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Mordraugion on February 04, 2010, 06:37:02 am
they were sold to gypsies or eaten by ulbers?
Time isn't full yet so I can't say :p
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Earowo on February 04, 2010, 06:07:01 pm
in some cases, the oja kikiri might have gotten to a few lil enkis'
>:D
ps that thing is DEADLY to unarmourd people :\
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Syenna on February 04, 2010, 11:00:15 pm
There are reasons for the lack of children in Yliakum which will be revealed in the fullness of time

they were sold to gypsies or eaten by ulbers?

...or perhaps they toss them into the Stone Labyrinths as a peace offering to what lurks there... :devil:
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Geoni on February 04, 2010, 11:20:36 pm
@ligH I wasn't "demanding" I was wishing.

@Mordraugion You said a "lack" of children. That means there are still children.

@Akkaido Supposedly they can't afford to get more RAM or whatever it is they can't afford so they can improve on models. [I dunno what it is. I'm not computer friendly] The reason I suggest the developers rob a bank!  :devil:

@Developers: Don't listen to me...I have...bad ideas...(with the exception of models by age!)
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on February 05, 2010, 12:53:47 am
You're obviously not 3D art friendly. People with the skill, nay, talent, to make fully animated, functional, non-dorky looking humanoid models... are as rare as hen's teeth.

Hence, PlaneShift has not finished all race models yet. With the races not even having an individual model each, it's a bit much to be asking for and entirely extra seperate model on top of it.

One of my own quiet ideas (that I don't wish for, it'd be alot of work) is for extra feature meshes to be added, such as pot bellies, an array of noses, chins, ears, etc available so characters can be individualised that way.

Not worth asking for until one model for each race is completed. Same with children. It's obvious that the resources either are not there, or are not ready for such a project, as they have not yet finished the original models for each race.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: LigH on February 05, 2010, 07:21:06 am
@ligH I wasn't "demanding" I was wishing.

But you didn't notice the quotes and the smilie...   :innocent:
__

A simple change in the overall model size won't make a child from an adult. The proportions are different, mostly noticable e.g. between the head and the rest of the body. Not to mention the face as such.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Sarras Volcae on February 05, 2010, 08:19:04 am
akkaiddo, you're in the wishlist. get used to players wishing for NON-immedidiate changes. geoni doesn't sound demanding and i believe the developers have their priorities straight.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: weltall on February 05, 2010, 08:28:54 am
ah we don't run out of ram because of one psclient but because of psserver+psnpcclient+2/3 psclient it's the players which have < 1gb or < 2 gb
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Geoni on February 06, 2010, 08:41:46 am
You're obviously not 3D art friendly. People with the skill, nay, talent, to make fully animated, functional, non-dorky looking humanoid models... are as rare as hen's teeth.


Um...hens have that little wobbly sack like part on their neck where small pieces of rock and sand get caught and act like teeth after they swallow food whole, so they all have teeth.
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on February 07, 2010, 11:01:08 am
Teeth are made of calcium enamel, not gizzard/gullet stones.

Either way, decent artists are RARE. And those that are available are more attracted to whatever style of work they like, map-making, making monsters.

Making humanoids is trickier and less creative as a process. You would be given a racial description and have to make the character model TO THAT DESCRIPTION. Not my idea of fun. Hard work. Volunteers here. See my point?
Title: Re: Models by age
Post by: Mordraugion on February 07, 2010, 03:00:18 pm
A chickens gizzard is inside their body part of the digestive tract the "wobbly sack" is called the crop and is just used to store food.
 thread has been answered and now gone off topic so locking