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Title: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 10, 2010, 09:37:38 pm
Yep as the topic says, i'm actually doing that and thought i'd share the url here for you guys to see.
The museum is atm only on the internet and may not grow beyond that as i have no space yet to actually show off the collection. :-[

Note. the site is in a continued update spree atm and can have new stuff every day, this is cause i'm going thrue my stuff and updating it as i go along.

So anyway here's the url and hopefully the site can spur some interest. ;)
http://electricdreams.ath.cx (http://electricdreams.ath.cx)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on April 11, 2010, 10:21:07 am
Nice project.

Funny design ... just wonder why the stylesheet reloads each time, making it flash on each click. Did you deny caching in metas?
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Marqsaynt on April 11, 2010, 10:49:57 am
*looks around to see if anyone is watching... then types into one of the old computers.*

Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.
<enter>

--

Ah, memories... My first computer was a Laser 128 Apple II clone my dad probably bought at Sears. A few years later I remember trips to this giant warehouse store to dig through $1 bins of 5 1/2 floppy disks after they had gone out of vogue. :lol: Good times.

Insane Impressive collection, Elvi. Good luck with the museum. 


Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 11, 2010, 02:02:40 pm
Nice project.

Funny design ... just wonder why the stylesheet reloads each time, making it flash on each click. Did you deny caching in metas?

the only reason i can think of the flashing is that each click shows a new page and i havn't added anything in meta


*looks around to see if anyone is watching... then types into one of the old computers.*

Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.
<enter>

--

Ah, memories... My first computer was a Laser 128 Apple II clone my dad probably bought at Sears. A few years later I remember trips to this giant warehouse store to dig through $1 bins of 5 1/2 floppy disks after they had gone out of vogue. :lol: Good times.

Insane Impressive collection, Elvi. Good luck with the museum. 




hehe thanks marqsaynt, and it's not done yet, lots to do still meaning lots to add... will get on it asap :P
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on April 11, 2010, 02:18:14 pm
Strange thing, the HTML/CSS looks well done. And browsers should be able to know: "This is the same stylesheet I already cached, I can apply it already." - It might help to redundantly add the 'background="black"' attribute to the body tag.
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My first "Home Computer" (they are slightly different to "Personal Computers", I believe) was a C=16 :P

You should try to get some Home Computers from Robotron, like KC-85/2 or KC-87, if you can. Extremely rare nowadays, especially outside the former GDR. Or a legendary PC-1715. There were even construction sets without keyboards, where people created some e.g. with model train signal box key groups.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Overtherainbow on April 11, 2010, 04:51:30 pm
Your site is inferior to unixkcd.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 11, 2010, 06:11:40 pm
Strange thing, the HTML/CSS looks well done. And browsers should be able to know: "This is the same stylesheet I already cached, I can apply it already." - It might help to redundantly add the 'background="black"' attribute to the body tag.

actually the css is loaded with every page and background is loaded from css, i won't go thrue every page to add the color thing to html cause the pages are getting many now, would take awhile to clean up.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 14, 2010, 04:09:27 am
the site is still growing, i must be mad to have taken on me such and big thing but heh like i'd stop now after all the work i've put into it :P.
just a small update... hint :P
added alot of stuff to cards and hd's today.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Eurac Hog on April 22, 2010, 12:50:35 pm
You really must throw some stuff out :)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 26, 2010, 02:27:04 pm
nuh uh!
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Tirion on April 29, 2010, 03:33:21 pm
Pretty good Elvi
Are there any more stuff than:
Processors
RAM
HDD and
Cards?
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 29, 2010, 10:16:51 pm
uhm theres whole computers there, many of thouse items are inside thouse computers, i'll add more stuff as time goes on but atm i'm busy translating the site for local use.
by more stuff i mean things like peripherals.
if you guys have any suggestions on what kind of stuff could be there, by all means say, might get some ideas.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: verden on April 29, 2010, 10:46:52 pm
I wish you were in the US, I'd give you my old Microvax 6400. Well, then again, I might not. VMS rules!
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Marqsaynt on April 29, 2010, 11:15:41 pm
Idea? (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761152431?ie=UTF8&tag=62protomakwit-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0761152431) :P
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on April 30, 2010, 01:47:01 am
/me slaps marqsaynt
how dare you!

anyway get real guys, this is something i want to do but i don't have money to put into it so... i do it with what i have.
i've always been facinated with other comps than todays monsters, the oldies had a "soal" if you will, today's doesn't  :-\
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Marqsaynt on April 30, 2010, 02:24:59 am
*Marqsaynt rubs his jaw*

Jeez... try to help some people. Is it my fault that old Commodore 8032-SK would look awesome as a lizard terrarium?

On a "serious" note though, I'm sure a lot of people/organizations locally have old computers sitting around in their basements and would probably love to find someone to take them off their hands (even better if it's someone that actually appreciates the machines). The main problem is just how does the person that wants the computers and the people that want to get rid of them find each other? In the US we have "craigslist" I'm sure there must be some free classifieds service similar where you live... the occasional look at the "free" section may turn up a few under-appreciated old comps and a "Have an old computer collecting dust? Online computer museum always looking for donations!" ad may also get some responses from people looking to clear out a little closet space.

And of course, be sure to talk about it to anyone that will listen... :P You'd be surprised how many friends of friends will go "Oh, hey! I have an old computer-y thing... it's broken though, the screen only displays in green. Want it?"

You may be doing all this already but, if not, it could be a nice way to grow your collection at very minimal cost.   
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on May 14, 2010, 11:29:56 am
I've gone and translated the pages to swedish now too so you who speak swedish might understand the stuff beter ;) but i bet there's mistakes here and there :P
Updated some computers with more info but as the info for most of my things are limited it's really hard to find.
Happy browsing :)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Rigwyn on May 14, 2010, 01:06:09 pm
A hyperlink from your site to another site has some value to it.
The higher your pagerank the more valuable that like becomes.

Offer a link to the donor's site in exchange for an old computer.
Hell, a link doesn't cost you anything but page space - offer a few if needed.

At work we pay to have people take our old computers if we cannot sell them. You cannot just dump them in the garbage ( at least your not supposed to for environmental reasons )
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on May 14, 2010, 02:58:06 pm
um is that main menu so hard to look at that you can't find links?
/me is confused
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Rigwyn on May 14, 2010, 04:25:28 pm
Huh ?

No, I was saying that when people try to get more search engine hits on their website they will often ask operators of other websites to link to their site.

Google 's  ranks pages based a number of factors. One of which is popularity.  (look up pagerank )
People looking to increase ther pagerank will often as others to link to their site ( one way link )
This elevates their pagerank slightly. how much depends on how high the refering site's pagerank is.

Pagerank is one of the factors that determines how close of a match your site is to the keywords that are entered,
Yahoo does something similar as I understand.

Now unless your getting a lot of traffic your pagerank will be low and that link from your site will not be worth much, but its something. Likewise, the computer that you are asking for in return is not worth much either. Chances are its worth less than the cost of shipping it.

Just an idea, thats all.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on May 14, 2010, 05:27:19 pm
well heh i think google has accessed me allready for some unknown reason, i was searching for some information once and the site poped up
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on May 14, 2010, 06:27:21 pm
The Google Pagerank algorithm is mysterious. It is based on "links from others to the site", but not only. The "amount of useful information" is also relevant, but hard to determine. "Reference links from the site to others" might play a small role too. And furthermore, the "uniqueness" is another factor.

Possibly the most efforts are spent to remove "link farms" from the pageranking (sites with no unique relevant information, often just copies of original pages - but heaps of links among the own site(s) trying to push the pagerank by crosslinking only). Therefore, excessive linking can be counterproductive even!
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Tirion on May 16, 2010, 10:47:33 am
Wish i could help but i don't know anything about old computers
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on July 28, 2011, 11:05:51 pm
i know this post is old but i thought i'd revive it :P
the museum is getting bigger and bigger and now it even has a comment/feedback page :)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 05, 2011, 04:29:26 pm
Added an animation on the content area of the page, hopefully it got a even more oldschool feel to it  ;)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on August 05, 2011, 06:51:43 pm
Cute. :)

Do you know Uwe Sieber (http://www.uwe-sieber.de/dosfon.html)? Authentic nostalgy for Fixedsys. The Far Manager (http://www.farmanager.com/) works perfectly well with this one.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Soloyos on August 05, 2011, 07:35:44 pm
Nice collection and site.  :P
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 05, 2011, 08:11:29 pm
Ligh i didn't use a dos box when i did that animation, i copied it directly from a old dos pc that sits beside me heh
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on August 05, 2011, 08:15:24 pm
I mean you could have used not Arial while making this animated GIF, but another font.

There are even TrueType fonts with "text mode" look&feel, if your graphic program requires those. Not all can work with bitmap fonts.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: verden on August 05, 2011, 08:32:20 pm
The width cartridges are from a compugraphic typesetting system most probably. Width probably referred to character and spacing widths and were addon features because the width tables were always getting updated for font changes. That's my educated guess. Probably from the early 1980s.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 07, 2011, 01:23:54 am
thanks and just read a litle on these and it seems they were for a computer called the editwriter, i got some books for one heh
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Sarras Volcae on August 07, 2011, 01:10:01 pm
do you have an antikythera?
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 07, 2011, 06:11:14 pm
LOL that's some OLD stuff, nah oldest stuff i got atm is from late 70's
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Drey on August 10, 2011, 04:12:36 pm
Hey Sarras ;) ;)
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 24, 2011, 12:22:56 pm
bigger and bigger again... recently added a disk drive page, not hd's mind you, also been opening up some of the old comps and taking pics of their cpu's so that page has grown too.
and to my surprice, my c64 didn't actually have the common mos 6510 cpu but the newer 8500r3 in it  ::| funny thing also, the 8500 is from 85 while the c64 is made in 84 hm... and no the cpu hasn't been changed.

oh and the site is now almost 40mb big, i've been at it for awhile :P
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on August 24, 2011, 12:44:12 pm
They probably produced heaps of mainboards in '84, CPUs in '85, and put them together later?

Or where could you read production dates?
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on August 24, 2011, 02:23:28 pm
on the mobo itself it says 84 and on the cpu 85, also i've seen on the net meantion of the 8500 came out in 85
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: Elvicat on September 07, 2011, 05:16:57 pm
does anyone have any idea on how to put a "search engine" on the site itself, not google even if that would be the easiest answer it would just not look good.

also where to put it when it comes to that.
Title: Re: Starting up a computer museum
Post by: LigH on September 08, 2011, 08:13:27 am
If you don't want to rely on external services, you may have to program your own ... but depending on the amount of keywords you want to make searchable, it may not even be too hard. With a little AJAX you might even provide an instant list of early partial matches.

I can tell tales about the "error tolerant phonetic indexing" one I programmed for 12angebote.de, still slow as hell since we still did not have the time to switch to PHP 5 features...