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As you can see from the screenshots above, this was a nice crowd gathered at Kada's one night. We were drinking and talking (all RP of course) and had a really nice time. There is still lots of good RP out there, you just gotta not be afraid to branch out and RP with new people. I didn't know most of the people in the group but I had a really fun time RPing with them. And this wasn't a prearranged get together either. It started with Telnavi laughing talking, and sharing her liquor samples and one by one people came and joined the table. After awhile, there were 10 people standing around talking and having a good time.
Don't be afraid to branch out and interact with new people. You never know what good RP you might find. And remember there's more to RP than RPing with the person your character loves and the person your character hates. ;) There are many shades of friendliness and not every conflict involves chasing someone down. :)
Oh and never underestimate a good RP conversation piece... or maybe it was just because liquor loosens people up. ;D
Well... it's easy to believe ten people gathered along quickly. When there is no decent RP at all going on, with any spark of it people is attracted like flies to the... yeah. ;)
Most of those heading into the tavern with weapons drawn may have never seen it before. I'm sure that day gossip experimented a revolution: "What, there are freaks in the tavern talking weird?" - "Oh yep, I saw that once." - "And you liked?" - "No I ran away yelling 'Gay coward... Accept my challenge like a man!'"
If you do this every day chances are they''ll get bored and go back to doing whatever-the-heck quest they have pending for the next super-duper-dinosauric-uber-mount, because not having it makes you a noob. You should know better. ;)
And in the end, it's no fun if nobody dies.
PS: Murder, kidnapping, torture and explicit suffering are PG13. But Truth or Dare is X-rated. XD
Seems a fair chunk of us RPers have been bogged down.
I do hope to get more ingame time soon. My current great project, for the benefit of you all, is almost finished.
Well... it's easy to believe ten people gathered along quickly. When there is no decent RP at all going on, with any spark of it people is attracted like flies to the... yeah. ;)why is it everything i've seen you say is so negative?, your like vakachek but smarter and less annoying
Most of those heading into the tavern with weapons drawn may have never seen it before. I'm sure that day gossip experimented a revolution: "What, there are freaks in the tavern talking weird?" - "Oh yep, I saw that once." - "And you liked?" - "No I ran away yelling 'Gay coward... Accept my challenge like a man!'"
If you do this every day chances are they''ll get bored and go back to doing whatever-the-heck quest they have pending for the next super-duper-dinosauric-uber-mount, because not having it makes you a noob. You should know better. ;)
And in the end, it's no fun if nobody dies.
PS: Murder, kidnapping, torture and explicit suffering are PG13. But Truth or Dare is X-rated. XD
your like vakachek but smarter and less annoying
As you can see from the screenshots above, this was a nice crowd gathered at Kada's one night. We were drinking and talking (all RP of course) and had a really nice time. There is still lots of good RP out there, you just gotta not be afraid to branch out and RP with new people. I didn't know most of the people in the group but I had a really fun time RPing with them. And this wasn't a prearranged get together either. It started with Telnavi laughing talking, and sharing her liquor samples and one by one people came and joined the table. After awhile, there were 10 people standing around talking and having a good time.Sorry, Illysia...I don't get it. Still a lot RP out there? Where? Obviously even you think it's worth posting that people can have fun, gathering in a small group in Kada El's for some conversation. Not to long ago nobody would have even thought about posting something like this...you always could have that in Kada El's in the evening. Just go there and you could be sure to meet someone to RP with. But I don't have to tell you...you know this pretty well. Also I don't understand why people keep on saying that it is important to get in contact with new people. This is also something that was always like this and I don't know anyone who doesn't do this. People usually refuse to play with others they know already and expect to mess up, not with players they have no clue about. Having fun with others doesn't depend on them starting each line with "/me" or good English. It depends more on reasonable characters and the ability to make a difference between IC and OOC. (Sure, this is not entirely true...if you know a guild will take everything in guild channel IC and reacts to a help call of a member there by sending the whole guild to aid it's also understandable that people avoid members of that guild even if they don't know them. But that's nothing against the player but against the better known players around him/her.) So sorry, but in the end I can only take this post as a proof that there isn't any RP going on in PS...or if there is any RP then it's an exception.
Don't be afraid to branch out and interact with new people. You never know what good RP you might find. And remember there's more to RP than RPing with the person your character loves and the person your character hates. Wink There are many shades of friendliness and not every conflict involves chasing someone down.
Oh and never underestimate a good RP conversation piece... or maybe it was just because liquor loosens people up.The idea behind the RCD...it was not to teach others Roleplaying even if I have no problem in doing so (Okay, I have a little problem there as I think I am not the right one to teach others...I'm not really a good Roleplayer). The RCD was there to give Roleplayers a last safe harbor where we ensure that disruptions are kept at a minimum. Sure, we had to do the OSP event each month, but that was not as important for me. The daily RP there was what made the RCD fun for me. The RCD was founded at a time where it was already clear that RP is about to disappear from PS...so in a way my (and others) last desperate efforts to prevent this. Obviously it failed epically.
I haven't had a good rp in a while... Sad I got so bored I decided to grind until I find one...Awww..I wish I could have a piece of your optimism...do you really think you will ever stop grinding again?
PS: Murder, kidnapping, torture and explicit suffering are PG13. But Truth or Dare is X-rated. XDCome on, you know how Americans are...you show them a nipple and they are blinded. ;) That Europeans take the violence issue more serious isn't important...
I do hope to get more in-game time soon. My current great project, for the benefit of you all, is almost finished.Sorry Akkaido, as long as your current project isn't some book written by Akkaido to be published in game or something alike it won't help RP a bit...sure, not saying it doesn't benefit the players, but it won't do anything for RP. No offline-buddylist, gui modification, improvement to game mechanics, mounts, NPC-voice chat, new maps, new items or new monsters will help Roleplay in PS. Not saying it doesn't help the game...only that it's not what is going to improve the amount and quality of roleplay. Fine we had a peak of more than 100 players when mounts were introduced. And how long did it last? Two weeks? Three? Did the mounts make any player stay and roleplay now? The only way to help roleplay in my view is taking part in it. Also GM events in their limited form are not helping. They are merely a distraction for players who don't want to get involved in anything deeper and to get some shinies. GM events are not prepared in game. All they are is a story that take place without any previous hints in game that this will happen. They are not a in game reaction to a conference of Enkidukai claiming to get rid of the unlawful activities in Ojaveda or a marriage proposal resulting from years of roleplaying finding a suited husband. None of the characters played by GMs in an event have a background formed by interacting in game and none of those chars have any bonds to the current other chars. It's just not possible to do this with the requirement that every GM event must be approved by settings and should require as less improvisation as possible. And please don't get me wrong...GMs are important for the game. They just should stop claiming their events are great examples of RP and that they improve RP in the game. Joining the GM team for sure doesn't do anything good for RP...in fact quite the opposite, it takes another player away from roleplay. (And have fun contradicting me by saying that GMs still play ordinary chars...but please have a look before how often this happens and if you don't just login because you know that something is going on that requires your char.)
why is it everything i've seen you say is so negative?Because you don't play long enough to know the more positive posts? Because there isn't much positive to say in the last year? Because some people had to go through all the crap of a leader of a organization hunting down criminals to get the bounty jumping all around in Kada El's and challenging everyone to a duel right next to the guards.
(Okay, I have a little problem there as I think I am not the right one to teach others...I'm not really a good Roleplayer).
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As you can see from the screenshots above, this was a nice crowd gathered at Kada's one night. We were drinking and talking (all RP of course) and had a really nice time. There is still lots of good RP out there, you just gotta not be afraid to branch out and RP with new people. I didn't know most of the people in the group but I had a really fun time RPing with them. And this wasn't a prearranged get together either. It started with Telnavi laughing talking, and sharing her liquor samples and one by one people came and joined the table. After awhile, there were 10 people standing around talking and having a good time.
I haven't had a good rp in a while... :( I got so bored I decided to grind until I find one...
Just got back from hospital - and this thread is soo sad! I rarely have problems with finding good RP.. or even starting it myself. I just love it!
Not to long ago nobody would have even thought about posting something like thisObviously you must post it nowadays. If there's nothing going on at all, it's understandable that a meeting in Kada El's is quite an event. Even more with ten people around, in fact I'm surprised there were so many people online at the same time up to use the chatbox. This is just the last (last? maybe not... ;) ) step of the downhill; it was first posting every event as if it was a big deal of RP, now it's already posting just that there is RP. I guess the next step is posting about how somebody managed to talk IC about an OOC quest or the greatness of those who can even sheath their weapons in town as if it was a great achievement. Everything is better than nothing. ;)
Obviously it failed epically.The RCO failed simply because nobody cared. Well, they did, at least enough to say they do, then mostly do nothing about it. Very few people were up to help us and to be honest, we shouldn't be surprised about that. It's much easier to sit and wait for others to give you the fun than providing it yourself, even if it's not so fun for you then. In the end it was our mistake to believe something as big could be done in PS. If simple PL guilds fail all the time (let alone RP ones...), something like the RCO with its structure and needs was meant to fail from the start.
for the benefit of you allFor sure not mine. Or did you mean for Talad's benefit? I thought so.
He did say you're smart and not as annoying...He compared me to Vackachehk. That's not accurate, insulting, and finally, foolish.
Just got back from hospitalThat's good news. ^_^'
I'm open to teach new players how to RPOk, to be a bit constructive, you will likely be the only one. Get them out of gossip before they think that's the main tab.
Sarras, if you camp in the middle of a road simply because you didn't want to find a good place to camp, you just wanted to camp ;) , it would not go well. Yes, people need to seek out RP. I know from experience that RPing by yourself is only half as fun. ;D
Sarras, if you camp in the middle of a road simply because you didn't want to find a good place to camp, you just wanted to camp ;) , it would not go well. Yes, people need to seek out RP. I know from experience that RPing by yourself is only half as fun. ;D
you're being disingenuous >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
@Lhaa: You know very little of my interactions with XilliX, or Talad for that matter. It's rather unwise to suggest I am ignorant in the matters concerning politics in PlaneShift development. Whether or not Talad benefits personally from my contribution is not the reason I contribute as a prospect, I contribute for the community.
Now that, we've gotten through yet another round of back and forth, let's please stick to positive threads like Dracaeon's.
There are several problems I see with RP:
1) noobs don't get the indoctrination in RP they used to. This is an area the tutorial tries to help out with with Xargon, but it seems that not many folk want to listen to his lecture...:P That, and quite a few newbies are still getting dragged off into non-RP guilds (*cough* Nexus of Devotion *hack* just an example :P)--
--Us folk running RP guilds (Rangers, RHoP, Outlaws Guild, House of Treyus, etal) kind of need to step up our efforts not just to recruit newbies, but to give them a proper edification when it comes to roleplaying.
3) The newbies tend to be afraid to try to RP, most of this I'll chalk up to stage fright :P but we do need to find a better way to bring people up to speed on game settings. Using quests to disseminate settings information is simply ineffective. Why? To find out which quests your character should run, you either have to ask characters in a similar profession (sometimes easier said than done), rely on OOC spoilers (:( ), or run every quest in the game (which is too time consuming). The books provide references for some matters, but much of that information is hard to find for the average player (its better than information buried in quests though), and it's kind of hard to run to Jayose's (or worse, the DR citadel) every time a mundane Settings question pops up mid-roleplay. What we really need is a "quick reference guide" that contains most of the Settings things that a roleplayer would need, in a format that we can keep HANDY and easily distribute to noobs.
Just got back from hospitalGlad to hear this Lolitra.
Yes, I know...it was started far too late and it should have been clear from the start that it will fail. I'm just can't fight the optimist in me sometimes. So let's put it in the same category of stupid things I tried as the joining the GM team...okay?Quote from: AiwendilObviously it failed epically.The RCO failed simply because nobody cared. Well, they did, at least enough to say they do, then mostly do nothing about it. Very few people were up to help us and to be honest, we shouldn't be surprised about that. It's much easier to sit and wait for others to give you the fun than providing it yourself, even if it's not so fun for you then. In the end it was our mistake to believe something as big could be done in PS. If simple PL guilds fail all the time (let alone RP ones...), something like the RCO with its structure and needs was meant to fail from the start.
(and the quality varying wildly from good RP to epic tavern fights where everyone has inexplicably glowing body parts and lorebreaking spells and abilities - when I've been on it's been so deloate, RP-wise, that I even miss those. Ugh.)Not so sure about that...having to carry Lhaa around the whole time because her second leg got broken also would have been hard. ;)
Lhaa, if you keep it up. I'm going to give you a sign that says "I'm n ur thredz, stealin ur happyz." or one that say "I haz a grumpy." :P you too Aiwendil.Awww, can I still have that sign even now after stopping playing PS? I like that...goes and changes his signature
The community is the lifeblood of the game - the mechanics are merely the body. Ones the blood drains out the body is dead.Agreeing to almost everything here...and it might even be a good time for that seeing that I was flamed down in the past for saying something similar in even more nice words. Seems with the current lack of RP and players this is more likely to be accepted. Just far too late.
With the community dead it might as well be a solo rpg.
You want rp to be alive? You need a lot of people who give a crap - not just one or two rp-saviors.
You want rp back ?
Do what it takes to attract and retain solid players.
If need be, get rid of the sucky players - kick them off for not role playing, tell them they must change, or take away the game mechanics. ( Take down the npc's for good )
That's harsh, I know.
Its worth considering though.
The resulting question is, how important is it to have a role playing community?
As it stands there are a fist full of players left scattered accors multiple timezones on a very large map.
the coals need to be lumped together somehow before the fire goes out.
I love these topics because they always come about at regular intervals.I know. (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=35576.0)
Finally, Aiwendil, I'm just amazed at your patience explaining what we already said so many times and never managed to get through. Too bad I can't feel like spending so much time in it. At least in this side it feels like it's already too late. Whether it is too late for me or the whole community is something I wouldn't dare answer to. But my posts will have to do with shorter, pungent words most of the time. o/
And if the people who run the game won't listen to your suggestions at all, don't play anymore. It won't change. If they do, good for you, get your ideas out there and your opinion heard. Talk to Talad, see what he says. If he doesn't listen or straight-up says no, you know that this game probably isn't for you....
I have not been playing because I don't have an interest in logging in. Loading is too much for me, I get tired looking at that screen. RP sucks, it is blatantly terrible. The bugs and lag and crashing I can handle, as long as the content of the game is good. It's not. So it adds onto the pile of dung that is what I see in the game right now. You don't like what I'm saying? Too bad. Because a hell of alot of people feel this exact same way.
All I'm saying is that RP isn't dead, we all just need to try something new.I lost all my patience by now Lhaa. Not going to try to make any more suggestions, run any more events in game or even login. For me it's for sure far too late...not going to take any of this crap any longer. So I take Dracaeon's suggestion and do something new...playing another game that actually is fun as it is meant to be and not annoying almost all of the time. To all remaining I wish that their over and over repeated mantra "There is nothing wrong with PS" will help them to actually believe it themselves sometime. On a side note...thx for the post Kull, I have to admit that it actually felt good to read it.
@Lhaa: You know very little of my interactions with XilliX, or Talad for that matter. It's rather unwise to suggest I am ignorant in the matters concerning politics in PlaneShift development. Whether or not Talad benefits personally from my contribution is not the reason I contribute as a prospect, I contribute for the community.The question is for what community...Not much of a community left I would say. You help the game, nothing else. The PS team can keep on imagining they do it for the community as much as they like, it won't come more true. The truth is that they make the game they want. They don't listen to the community at all. I am not saying that this is wrong...creating a game can be fun itself and give one a satisfying feeling about having created something. It's their good right to make it as they want as they are the ones doing the work. But calling it work for the community is just plain ignorant. For the PS team the so called community is nothing else than second class testers that are exchangeable whenever needed.
@Aiwendil: I did not specifically claim to be doing anything to help RP, in my last post... I meant the game community as a whole. The only thing I can do to help RP in PlaneShift, in my honest opinion is to spend more time ingame RPing. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I hardly see how expanding the game area, especially in adding and designing areas with potential roleplay use in mind, is a waste of time.And this is what you obviously don't understand. This thread is about roleplaying not improving the game in general. The game has already a lot things that could be used for roleplaying but aren't. Adding more of such things might for sure be good for the game but doesn't help the current RP situation at all. Sure, let's add a new map to the game so that the 40 players online are scattered even more in Ylikaum. Nah, wait, even better...created some more monsters and place them all over the map so that there are enough monsters of every kind enabling all players at the same time to hit an ulbernaut. Or how about rejecting RP rules because they would be a PR disaster and drive off all the PLers from the server...that's how the team is going about RP. But I am repeating myself...you are right Lhaa...I am too patient.
Sorry for hijacking your thread Illysia, you're one of the few people that didn't deserve it. Didn't plan to get back to it after you asked, but some things can't be left unanswered.
I'm off now.
So let me try to be a bit positive:
I really hope the game stay fun for all those keeping playing it. Furthermore I hope that the issues some of those see can be solved in a way that is acceptable for all. I already agreed with Illysia, at least if you can "look past my anger", that the best way to improve the situation is going out there and start some roleplay. I'm just too "tired" of all the crap going on in and around PS to do it myself anymore. So farewell to all those remaining..I really hope you find in PS what you are looking for.
and there is not need for pessimism.
just for losers with nothing better to do with their time than bully people about minute settings details.
@Sarras: It's not being disingenuous, what I mean might have just gone over your head, and I did nothing to your point. More than likely the point you were making just wasn't strong enough on it's own.
Mathy, try picking a name that doesn't rhyme with ath or end in 'y'. ;)Yeah, Kaerli can turn Rigwyn into lunchmeat. ;) As for Jacula? He got way lucky the last time he got into a scrape with Kaerli, that and Atagal's given him a few good scares too. I think all the other baddies (with the sole exception of Kull) kind of go downhill in strength from Rigwyn... :P (I usually advise any baddies that I'm RPing with to not mess with Kaerli unless they want to wind up dead ;)
And Sarras, not true. My character has been caught and beat up a few times, Jacula is a bit stronger. If you want to catch him I suggest you form a lunch mob. I'm sure he would enjoy the surprise rp, though I can't speak for him.
As for infiltrating the black flame, Mellas already has.
As for real consequences like the oct sending some of us into the crystal .. you never know.. that could happen to my character any day .. and if it does happen .. oh well :)
The reason why there is no consequence is due to a lack of action on the goodie goodie side. Yall gotta get together an stomp out them baddies.
Keep in mind though .. if you permakill all the baddies, you end the conflict for good. Thats why bad guys usually escape in movies.
And Sarras, not true. My character has been caught and beat up a few times, Jacula is a bit stronger. If you want to catch him I suggest you form a lunch mob. I'm sure he would enjoy the surprise rp, though I can't speak for him.
As for infiltrating the black flame, Mellas already has.
As for real consequences like the oct sending some of us into the crystal .. you never know.. that could happen to my character any day .. and if it does happen .. oh well :)
The reason why there is no consequence is due to a lack of action on the goodie goodie side. Yall gotta get together an stomp out them baddies.
Keep in mind though .. if you permakill all the baddies, you end the conflict for good. Thats why bad guys usually escape in movies.
i haven't heard of any executions issued by the octarchy yet. still, executions aren't big enough. there need to be bigger conflicts, real conflicts, such as wars and rebellion and... stuff
And Sarras, not true. My character has been caught and beat up a few times, Jacula is a bit stronger. If you want to catch him I suggest you form a lunch mob. I'm sure he would enjoy the surprise rp, though I can't speak for him.
Yeah, Kaerli can turn Rigwyn into lunchmeat. ;) As for Jacula? He got way lucky the last time he got into a scrape with Kaerli, that and Atagal's given him a few good scares too. I think all the other baddies (with the sole exception of Kull) kind of go downhill in strength from Rigwyn... :P (I usually advise any baddies that I'm RPing with to not mess with Kaerli unless they want to wind up dead ;)
Correction: two times, Jacula hasn't gotten his revenge for that arrow yet :P And can you PLEASE get my character's gender straight for once? lolAnd Sarras, not true. My character has been caught and beat up a few times, Jacula is a bit stronger. If you want to catch him I suggest you form a lunch mob. I'm sure he would enjoy the surprise rp, though I can't speak for him.
I agree that Jacula should have been caught by the guards by now, some seem aware of his crimes, yet I doubt the Octarchy itself is. A surprise lynch mob would be good, maybe even wanted posters to get the Octarchy and guards involved? I'm at the point where my character has grown so out of control that he is getting extremely hard to play. I welcome any attempt on his person, preferably a random one without giving me too much of a heads up OOC'ly. :thumbup:Yeah, Kaerli can turn Rigwyn into lunchmeat. ;) As for Jacula? He got way lucky the last time he got into a scrape with Kaerli, that and Atagal's given him a few good scares too. I think all the other baddies (with the sole exception of Kull) kind of go downhill in strength from Rigwyn... :P (I usually advise any baddies that I'm RPing with to not mess with Kaerli unless they want to wind up dead ;)
From our characters encounters Jacula has taken a lot of punishment, that goes for many of those he have fought. Then again Kaerli has been the one ending up dead three times, with that kind of luck he should play the Hydlaa draw more often :D
From our characters encounters Jacula has taken a lot of punishment, that goes for many of those he have fought. Then again Kaerli has been the one ending up dead three times, with that kind of luck he should play the Hydlaa draw more often :D
@Illysia:
Now stay on topic.
Don't be afraid to branch out and interact with new people.
Time for a RP update. Recently Roled had a party in the Secret Garden in honor of Xiosia and threw Illysia a welcome back party at the Stonehead. Unfortunately I must not have taken a screenshot at the garden like I thought, but I did get one at the Stonehead.
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As you can see, we had good turn out and there were even more at the Secret Garden. And for all of you not there, you missed dancing and people playing in the pool. :P If we can just get the number of players online back up we can have some pretty good RPs. All you need is 4 people together and you've got a party. ;) If anyone else has screenies of the two events, please post them. :thumbup:
Good rp is ALWAYS out there if you search for it!
Time for a RP update. Recently Roled had a party in the Secret Garden in honor of Xiosia and threw Illysia a welcome back party at the Stonehead. Unfortunately I must not have taken a screenshot at the garden like I thought, but I did get one at the Stonehead.
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As you can see, we had good turn out and there were even more at the Secret Garden. And for all of you not there, you missed dancing and people playing in the pool. :P If we can just get the number of players online back up we can have some pretty good RPs. All you need is 4 people together and you've got a party. ;) If anyone else has screenies of the two events, please post them. :thumbup:
Good rp is ALWAYS out there if you search for it!
The forums have handed me the writhing idea that "random parties" equate role-playing. It's horrible, and sticky.
So what was the last public Great Role-Play that someone pulled off? Have there really been any Mario Greymist's around in the past two years?
Haven't been any that I'm aware of in quite some time, but there haven't been a whole lot of players as of late, either. Frankly, I'm starting to find it boring to log in again, and I'm really not up on the ongoing RPs at all any more (admittedly my fault for taking such a long break in the first place). We have any big bads other than Jacula around? Maybe one of them could try something more public than what's currently going on.
Can't be your guy's "successful" bad guy in PS without being someone's OOC trick.Yeah, thanks to screwed-up folks like Perlan...
Funny, you guys want a bad guy now.
It wasn't too long ago that nobody wanted a bad guy around.
Someone should just take the initiave and do it.
Yes, your screw up. People will want to permakill or maim your character.
You be told that your bad guy rp is inadequate or that its imature or whatever...
For reasons like this its difficult to play a bad guy.
If you think it might be fun to do bad things then don't let these obstacles stop you.
Either give your goodie character a reason for turning bad or make a new one.
Ps - doing bad things consistently can be a challenge too - especially if you inclined to be good irl.
It's really not that hard, what's hard is finding someone who doesn't dodge all of your hits and counters with some god-like attack that makes it so hard XD
So what was the last public Great Role-Play that someone pulled off? Have there really been any Mario Greymist's around in the past two years?
Little parties are good places to launch your character's roleplay, but if they are the meat of player role play events, it's quite sad.
It's really not that hard, what's hard is finding someone who doesn't dodge all of your hits and counters with some god-like attack that makes it so hard XD
It takes more than attacks to be a bad guy. ;) It's very hard to be a compelling bad guy, especially hard to be one that everyone kinda likes thought they should hate them.
It's true, you get the "good-must-triumph" attitude from people when attempting to play a baddie. You can either tell them off for it or keep on playing 'til they decide you're godmoding scum. Either way, it's difficult because we're all a little suspicious when someone decides they're gonna be the next supervillain - it tends to bring up images of some kid that just discovered roleplaying thinking we'll all be bowing down to them for playing their super-awesome-demon-possessed-lava-spewing-manly-man that nobody's EVER thought to play before. However, we also perpetuate the problem by attempting to kill off the bad guy immediately with our good guys. People tend to forget that winning is not the point of roleplay when they see these types.
And then you get folks who refuse to go along with plotlines and call stuff that isn't OOC OOC (also, they refuse to accept the settings as incomplete/open-ended... :P)
Also, you have to distinguish between the "uber-baddies" and the common criminals...we need a few of the latter committing crimes too!
Jacula was a great ulber-baddy :C I miss him...
Jacula was a great ulber-baddy :C I miss him...
Jacula had a good run. But who knows, one day I might dig up the old bastard and reak some havoc on Yliakum. :devil:
With that said I have been reading up on Oralon's adventures, and I am impressed with what I've seen. Keep up the good work, who knows? you might be the next über baddy to strike fear in the hearts of men and women.
I could imagine that e.g. Lace and Esorono have some hidden potentials...
I just don't like the idea with scolling text on wings. Not at all. That's a bit beyond credibility, IMHO...
...Koios's veins filled with dark way...
...Koios's veins filled with dark way...
Never said anywhere that they are filled with dark way. Description says "...black veins run through the translucent skin of his wings."
No special power, no ability linked to it, they're just black. I admit, they are there because of the DW training, just like he has a Crystal Tattoo from his CW training. Which isn't doing much either besides being a tattoo.
That being said, I also thought the DW slotmachine on Eso's back was a bit farfetched at first. But it kinda grows on you. Or on him, really... :p
Well - a matter of style and taste. ;)
Supernatural powers are no requirement of playing a very evil character. (They just compensate a lack of cruel-plot-weaving, maybe...)
But my Point of View is biased. I don't like horror movies either - especially not if killing gets "usual".
That may be the reason why none of my chars got married yet, even though they are present for up to 5 years already: They must be simply too boring normal.
Well - a matter of style and taste. ;)
Supernatural powers are no requirement of playing a very evil character. (They just compensate a lack of cruel-plot-weaving, maybe...)
But my Point of View is biased. I don't like horror movies either - especially not if killing gets "usual".
That may be the reason why none of my chars got married yet, even though they are present for up to 5 years already: They must be simply too boring normal.
If you want to do more with your baddie characters, do like I do. Give them a day job. I've finally pulled Mirodii off the shelf and had her in game, but she hasn't done anything but sing for people so far. Mind you though, she's more True Neutral than evil or anything but it could still work. It's not like all baddie characters wake up every morning with the desire and purpose to stab X amount of people that day, it's just that if the opportunity arises they won't pass up the chance more than likely. ;)
Serial killers are a good example. Its said that there are a hundred or so roaming the united stated any any given time ( number is not accurate but you get the point ).
The creepy thing is that you don't know who they are. Supposedly they look like anyone else. The old man who runs the corner store could be one, so
Could the local dentist, florist, milfy mom, or that teenage kid on the corner who does nothing but mope around all day looking depressed.
The biggest challenge is that in ps nobody really dies, so while a rl killer can manage his or her exposure by offing people, that does not work in planeshift.
People come back from the dr and remember. This led me to believe that perhaps killing in ps is not such a great idea.
If you want to get away from killing and do some other evil things, here are some ideas:
* remove a limb and leave the victim there. This adds a little chaos to the game. You don't know if the player will live or die, plus they have some incentive to come after you for their arm (or revenge if its gone black and pruny )
* attack some's reputation / credibility
* frame another player
* cheat on a loved one
* seduce someone else's significant other
* spike the next picnic's food with psychadelic mushroom sauce
* cook up a ylian and feed him to a large crowd - don't forget the honey mustard sauce
* curse someone
* play a seemingly harmless prank that's not so harmless
Just my opinion, but this is where the creativity comes in - finding something that has not been done in a while and giving it your own spin.
Oralon recently made a smoking poisonous sack from some kind of plants. I thought this was refreshingly creative. Too bad I wasn't there to see it.
Chaotic characters can add some nice surprises. Vayl was in my opinon, the master of chaos :) when vayl was around you never knew what she might pull.
For those who followed jacula's bloodline rp, mellas was a chaotic good. Note some of the unpredictable things her character did for love.
Personally I really like characters that have some personality to them. Mogweh had a very good talent for this. When you rp'd with one of his characters you
Would really get a strong feel for his character's personality. He used a vombination of accent, consistent manerisms, and phrases for each character. If were to read the
Text from one of the characters without seeing the name it would not take long to figure out chich character you were talking to.
Lhaa and Aiwendil were anothe excellent example if sticking to your character. When they played they *lived* their characters.
Say something stupid to lhaa and she'd narrow here eyes and tell you off with a consistent accent. Aiwendil was consistently bubbly and cheerful.
Telnavi was always, warm, friendly, and perhaps a little flirtatious. This was consistent. When you spoke with Tel, you didn't feel like you were speaking with anyone else but Tel.
Each of these characters had well defined personalities that made them very very real.
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Sorry, didn't mean to go on a tangent :)
Do note that, although it seems like there might not be much RP going on, theres always lots of RP in the background, for example, two-person RP's in some hidden corner [if you know what I mean :devil:] or just somewhere that you normally don't go.
Do note that, although it seems like there might not be much RP going on, theres always lots of RP in the background, for example, two-person RP's in some hidden corner [if you know what I mean :devil:] or just somewhere that you normally don't go.
well there is nowhere private at the stonehead for that, so we can all see to avoid kada els :)Do note that, although it seems like there might not be much RP going on, theres always lots of RP in the background, for example, two-person RP's in some hidden corner [if you know what I mean :devil:] or just somewhere that you normally don't go.
As for RP, I agree...the tavern prostitutes are probably getting business.
That poor bird.
private? who said anything about private? they do it right next to lady peckerly!
private? who said anything about private? they do it right next to lady peckerly!
I bet people would get hurt after a few minutes from her jabs ;D
private? who said anything about private? they do it right next to lady peckerly!
I bet people would get hurt after a few minutes from her jabs ;D
Except krans :P
Ok ok... Enough talk about reproducing here. :P The only thing that should be multiplying in the Stonehead is the number of role players. ;)
Time for a quick shoutout to Saoirsee, Zonthek , and Doodeos. Belated congratulations on a tavern conversation done well. Back on the 8th I was in the tavern and overheard them conversing before I logged out for the day. It was honest to goodness character interaction and not just "I type something flat."... "Then I respond to it" ... "and the conversation seems dead for some reason." ::) I have no idea what they were talking about since I wasn't in on it but I am glad to see it. :thumbup: It reminds me of the times I used to sit in the tavern and have long conversations.
@Weltall: No cake for you. :P