PlaneShift

Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: velteyn3 on June 09, 2010, 07:51:42 pm

Title: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: velteyn3 on June 09, 2010, 07:51:42 pm
 ;D

First of all hello to everybody , this is my first post here !!

I have a great annunce that  (I think) could interess to  the entere  comunity !!!!!  \\o//

The weel known MMORPG RYZOM have been released open SOURCE !!!! You can find ALL THE ASSETS for Free on their project server !!!

Here you can find the engine project itself
http://dev.ryzom.com/projects/ryzom (http://dev.ryzom.com/projects/ryzom)

And here you can find the assets repo !!
http://media.ryzom.com/ (http://media.ryzom.com/)  :detective:

I think that using some common assets could speed up the job for you all!

What do you think ?




Title: Re: RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: ThomPhoenix on June 09, 2010, 07:54:41 pm
Nope. PlaneShift strives to offer a unique world and a unique gaming experience. Reusing assets that are also used in 10+ other games doesn't help towards that goal ;)
All art/settings-assets in PlaneShift are created for PlaneShift and licensed in such a way that they can't just be reused by other projects.

Congrats to Ryzom for going OSS though, the world needs more of such projects :)
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: velteyn3 on June 09, 2010, 07:56:34 pm
 :@#\ Ohhh !! Also using common assets like trees and flowers etc etc  is impossible ?
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: ThomPhoenix on June 09, 2010, 07:58:51 pm
Indeed. The Yliakum flora and fauna is very likely to be different from the Ryzom flora and fauna ;)
Uniqueness is very important to the developers.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE
Post by: verden on June 09, 2010, 08:31:05 pm
This is likely to stall a bunch of independent projects as word gets out.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Under the moon on June 10, 2010, 03:02:35 am
Funny that a commercial game is now more open source than planeshift is.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Xoel on June 13, 2010, 05:51:15 am
Funny that your project is no more opensource than PlaneShift is.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Rirenil Masdo on June 13, 2010, 07:04:13 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jpdmm_npp4o/RsX_almFwMI/AAAAAAAABuA/8lf9u1E7Qg8/s400/ohsnap.jpg)

Funny that a commercial game is now more open source than planeshift is.

Funny that your project is no more opensource than PlaneShift is.

(http://www.rebelrockrunners.org/gallery/d/17154-1/ohsnap.gif)
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Earowo on June 14, 2010, 08:49:04 am
thats the thing about plainshift, its not funded by anyone but donators, if plainshift didnt copyright their creations, they wouldnt have anybody the could sue :)
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Candy on June 14, 2010, 10:26:24 am
That would require the donations to go into the pockets of lawyers...I'm pretty sure it goes towards the website hosting and stuff like that.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Earowo on June 15, 2010, 08:39:51 am
one day renting of thine lawer!!
sue this guy for me and you'll get a cut, the end
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Under the moon on June 15, 2010, 07:37:30 pm
/me puts a big [Liar] sign on Xoel.

'Oh snap!' does not apply when the teller is making things up. Check facts before you believe anything Xoel says.

Planeshift parts that are OS: Engine, server, a tiny bit of art and models in the source.

Parts of Ryzom that are OS now: Engine, server, models, art, animations.

Parts of 'my' (not really mine) project that are OS: Engine, server, art, models, animations, rules, content (lore and such).

I would advise your to change your 'Oh Snap!' at Xoel to a...

(http://woozers.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg)
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on June 25, 2010, 06:56:50 am
Haha, funny that, last chat I had with members of your game community said the licence was rather similar to PlaneShift. Oh well, enjoy having all your stuff ripped by whatever codenoob comes along. My art certainly won't suffer the same fate.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Xoel on June 25, 2010, 06:58:42 am
For the record, I am Akkaido, I posted off the wrong account again. Just so UtM can't bitch and claim that I'm using multiple accounts to reinforce my point and such.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM OPEN SOURCED !!! Pictures - models - Engine - server - ALL FREE !!!
Post by: Under the moon on June 26, 2010, 04:53:11 pm
If you mean "not anything alike" when you say "rather similar", you are absolutely right. I can understand how you could see a  proprietary (http://www.planeshift.it/license.html) art license as rather similar to an open (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/) one. They are practically identical. They are soooooooo alike, in fact, that I think PS should just use the second one and be done with it.

At one point some time ago, the license was this (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/), which is still not similar to the PS license. It was changed a while back because we found it too restricting. So, I don't know where you are getting your information, but it is obviously skewed to fit your PS mindset, and terribly out of date.

As for your art, I would not worry about anybody trying to take it, even if it was free. No one is interested in late 90s quality art anymore.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM Open Sourced.
Post by: bloodedIrishman on June 26, 2010, 10:19:28 pm
OH SNAP!
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM Open Sourced.
Post by: Talad on June 27, 2010, 12:14:19 am
I wish them the best, even if I see it as a last trial for survival.

On another note we can use their art, being now open, but I've reviewed some months ago the whole repo and unfortunately the majority of the art is very low res (like textures of 256x256) and overall pretty low quality. So nothing can be really reused.

Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: ThomPhoenix on June 27, 2010, 12:44:37 am
As for your art, I would not worry about anybody trying to take it, even if it was free. No one is interested in late 90s quality art anymore.
Seriously, no grudging here guys. >.>

I wish them the best, even if I see it as a last trial for survival.

On another note we can use their art, being now open, but I've reviewed some months ago the whole repo and unfortunately the majority of the art is very low res (like textures of 256x256) and overall pretty low quality. So nothing can be really reused.
I noticed the same thing. And even if the art was good quality, it's funny how hard things are to re-use anyway when they're not made for your project. The textures have the wrong size, they don't fit the model properly, re-using art is not a simple matter of copy-paste. The things you can really re-use well are generic grass/sky/wood textures. And if you need to re-use those, you should think again about being a designer :P
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on June 27, 2010, 01:54:09 am
Last I checked Underthemoon's project also hasn't gotten past the late 90s... and I played a tech demo of yours. Seriously, that art made PlaneShift look amazing.

Let's see: Reflective water, Normal, Spec, and Displacement maps, various other shaders, a game that works and has mechanics ... yeah, we've passed the year 2000.

I really do wonder why you bother hanging around UtM, at least the other members of your team have the respect and dignity to not make themselves look like jaded prats by bitchfighting on their competition's forums. Still not over the fact you were fired? Nawwww. My heart bleeds for you, really.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: ThomPhoenix on June 27, 2010, 06:48:41 pm
Let's take a step back here and realise we're fighting over which game is better by comparing graphics.
Yes, graphics guys. Sheesh.
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: Sarras Volcae on June 29, 2010, 10:47:28 pm
i like how the two biggest buttholes in the PS community are duking it out in this thread  :lol:
Title: Re: MMORPG RYZOM open sourced.
Post by: bloodedIrishman on June 30, 2010, 03:34:29 am
Sarras: Excellent use of keywords to make a funny. I thoroughly enjoyed that. You have a duty to those buttholes.