PlaneShift
Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: verden on July 07, 2010, 03:42:30 am
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Don't know if anyone has been paying attention to this. I am kind of interested in what everyone here thinks about this. The change amount to the fact that the user's real name will be used on their forums going forward. You have to register the Battle.net account to your credit card and they intend to publish real names to the forum only. No more aliases. This is to cut down on trolling.
The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. The classic Battle.net forums, including those for Diablo II and Warcraft III, will be moving to a new legacy forum section with the release of the StarCraft II community site and at that time will also transition to using Real ID for posting.
The official forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players -- however, the forums have also earned a reputation as a place where flame wars, trolling, and other unpleasantness run wild. Removing the veil of anonymity typical to online dialogue will contribute to a more positive forum environment, promote constructive conversations, and connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven’t been connected before. With this change, you’ll see blue posters (i.e. Blizzard employees) posting by their real first and last names on our forums as well.
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You mean they actually did this? :woot: ;D Somebody quick link that comic strip from "The Noob" that covers this!
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You know, I was just complaining about this to my friends a few minutes ago. We hate the feature (me actually being a WoW player and an avid forum-goer). I hate that they force this kind of crap on the players without their consent. I don't like everybody knowing my real name or any of my information unless I trust them.
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Sounds like an effective way of cutting down on forum activity and thus trolling... You mean they are honest to goodness doing this? I still can't believe it. :o Sounds like a heart attack gag.
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i would still troll. i do it irl. why not the internet? ;D
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Tbh people will just do for this what Pizik did for facebook.
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WOW isn't free though. you have to pay to use the forum for each account, i believe
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WOW isn't free though. you have to pay to use the forum for each account, i believe
$15 bucks a month to play the game. This comes with forum access.
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My point was that they won't use their real name when signing up.
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Some will invariably get through but they will probably sanction suspicious accounts. Mind you, it makes me feel sorry for people with unusual names though. L. Ima Bean may have troubles unfortunately. ;D
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The thing about using fake names doesn't seem to practical. Unless you don't care about being able to assert ownership to the account in case you forget a password, or have other troubles. Generally you wouldn't tie a fake name to something you were actually paying for. Its going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
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im liking it tbh it now means i don't have to add all my mates alts onto the friends list of all my alts in order to be able to talk to them.
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Oh. My. Gosh.
Another internet service provider the German Government will object to due to breaking german laws of data protection and privacy rights.
Hooray - Germany is going to ban World of Warcraft! \\o//
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Seems one of their boys slapped up his real name on their forum just to see what would happen.
Was not long before his personal details ( and some info about his family members ) was made public...
Ouch..
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function (http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function)
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legal ramifications aside, you'd think common sense would tell them that it was a bad idea.
especially after their in game realid system has gaping security holes in it: http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/
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And of course, everything they are posting assumes that Real ID will function as expected. With no problems, or exploits. Which is never the case with any software, especially software that was created for "security" purposes. Neko just posted the link I am referencing here, but thats not the only report.
Since there are underage users of WoW, then there also may be a breach of US data laws concerning minors. Though I guess in those cases, it would be their parent's name showing on the account. Oh yeah, parents are going to be down with that.
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If I was still playing WoW I'd be somewhat pissed off at the idea.
I was quite a regular forum poster on our realm forums, and would pretty much be forced into stopping by this change. The whole using it in game to add friends is ridiculous too, or at least the fact that it makes you visible to friends of friends and reveals all of your characters to the people you add. But you can avoid that and just use the old avatar name method.
But at the end of the day, Blizzard are going to get the response they're after (less shit posts via less posts on the whole as people begin to shun blizzard forums in favour of other sites, BB over on EJ has always had superior content anyway for a very minimal fee).
As of yet, I've not felt the need to use the SC forums, and doubt I ever will.
and SC is much more of a loners game, doubt I'll feel the needs to add many friends to that ;)
ps: Sarras, you can come troll me any time ;)
Oh, and a word on possible exploits, people already have macros to exploit it through addons (as blizz kindly included API functions for the real id friends lists), and a Blizzard staffer put his name up on the forum and harassment ensued. Roll on 4chan style witch hunts on the blizz forums.
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Somebody really ought to sue Blizzard before someone gets stalked and attacked.
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http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function/2
Freakin' insane. They dug up this guy's entire life story. He'll never rest easy at night, now.
Edit: And now I realize someone posted the same link. Obviously this really is raising a big fuss.
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Thats okay, Suno, its a good read. I would not be surprised if various U.S. Attorney Generals offices have already been informed of this move by Blizzard. It would suck if someone had to get attacked before something was done. Displaying personal information on the internet is a bad idea. But letting software essentially do it for you is even more retarded.
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hm, i thought it was only names. anyway, facebook profiles can be made private. there are ways to protect most of your identity. however, if they're making phone numbers, addresses, and email public, that can be dangerous. you-can-be-killed dangerous.
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Yeah this isn't a good idea at all. People can be stalkers. Even if the people in this game are all generally cool and I wouldn't expect anybody to do something bad, but you just never know.
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Then this will make people reconsider if it is really worth it to them to play WoW and use its forums. Either the game will tank and Blizzard will learn its lesson, or players will behave and learn their lesson. People really should be more careful anyway with how much info they post online. From the sound of it, what Blizzard is doing is the least of what people put online anyway. This might shock people in to being more cautious all around.
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Well, I know that this significantly hurts WoW roleplayers. Perhaps after this goes live, PlaneShift will see a bit of an increase in numbers?
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It is only names they are posting but that is all it takes! I had a WoW account once for 6 months a long time ago. If I was still in game, this would prompt me to leave. I know personally of two kids right now that are probably going to loose their WoW accounts over this because their parents are concerned. Too bad we can't all watch Blizzard's billing sheet while this plays out. I wouldn't be surprised if we pick up more players, but I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't exactly happy players.
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It could be worse... Blizzard could have decided they wanted to be the next Chatroulette instead of the new Facebook.
Still though, leave it to a money-grubbing, multimillion dollar corporation to make the internet an even more creepy place...
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Not that Blizzard isn't a "money-grubbing, multimillion dollar corporation" but I'd still blame the trolls for this more. They pushed it to this point.
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Not that Blizzard isn't a "money-grubbing, multimillion dollar corporation" but I'd still blame the trolls for this more. They pushed it to this point.
Not really. It is money-grubbing, or more specifically, competition. With this new social-networking thing, they can actively compete against Xbox and Playstation or... something. I forget what the details were exactly. Something about battle.net being able to make a ton of money now.
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Basically, social media is big on the web right now (in case you didn't notice).
And everyone wants to own their own distribution platform.
Real ID... boom, now blizzard have both of the above and an already massive player base to exploit it over.
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you've no idea how many informations are around about you without you even knowing. a friend posts a photo on their site or space on some social network or blog, your school or your work place posts informations about you, about your feats. the local newspaper which posts about your marks. Your university which posts your student id and name with the result of an exam. just a simple domain adress can give your name and adress and could even give your phone number. Add google maps and you have also a satellite view of you or even a streetmap or your place. you use an ipv6 brooker and same thing. even your city could post informations about you online and these are all things you don't even know yourself that they are around! Letting alone real world attempts. ask around check the white pages (and those in many countries are even online and have any person who has a phone).... we could continue for hours ^^
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If it is true that trolls pushed it to this point, then I think in 10-20 years or less it will be impossible to have internet access without something like Real ID. Mainly because I see trolling as being human nature. But its going to apply to all sites. Or all sites you need to visit anyway. Since the internet (or Internet v1.0) is anonymous by nature, these systems tend to be unreliable, exploitable and generally somewhat unwieldy since you can never actually verify packets to an actual human being. The term Real ID applied to internet presence is a laughable overstatement for a product name. It is neither "real" nor "ID".
So... Illysia... do you see us going to a point where we might consider Real ID for PS then?
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well you could just google your name and see if you get any results. i get a lot, but it's not me. google has this strange idea i might be a queen... ;D
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google has this strange idea i might be a queen... ;D
<insert innuendo here>
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They've posted an open letter to the players stating that real names won't be used in the forums. I just wish there was an in-game option of using my battle.net username instead of my e-mail and real name to let people know "Hey, it's (*unintelligible noises*)'s alt".
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also,
12:09 < notdrey> http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/12/esrb-accidentally-releases-email-addresses-of-real-id-complainan/
(lazy paste ftw)
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why does this remember me of this (http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=378) and this (http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=384)? *wonders*
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So... Illysia... do you see us going to a point where we might consider Real ID for PS then?
Wouldn't help much but it might run off the few people that still post regularly. PS's trolls are too persistent to let something like this stop them.
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it wouldn't work for PS anyway. a real name isn't actually required. there's no monetary transactions going on.
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it wouldn't work for PS anyway. a real name isn't actually required. there's no monetary transactions going on.
Well, for now, and a ID check could be used to verify a person's age, to assure they are a "mature" player, i.e over 18.
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That wouldn't be helpful as there used to be young teens that played well and there are people now, over the age of 18, that need to sit out till they grow up. :P
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Just checking if my real name would be readable anyway: 李连杰
Damn it does!
I guess Brad Pitt would have to leave PS as well. Harassment and all that...
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hey i'm under 18 >:( >:( :'(
MEANIES!
/me runs off crying
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Sarras, :|
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Drey, :|
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still <3 ?
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quit editing your posts. it makes me paranoid. X-/
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tactics dearest ;p
That and posting perfection is an iterative process I find.
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I just hope us paying players win the battle against having to use our REAL names and e-mails to get the benefits of RealID. We all have perfectly fine Battle.net usernames that we don't even use for anything any more (we sign in to the game with our e-mail now; the ONE thing I've seen PS do before WoW rather than vice versa).
If we lose it, guess it's DDO for me.