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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Illysia on July 08, 2010, 09:00:35 am
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Ok, looks like it's time to start another thread on RP. I haven't made my quota for the month. ;D Mind you, I don't plan on writing a novel this time. I just want to see how many differing views of the definition of RP there are.
I think RP is way for everyone to tell a piece of one integrated and coherent story through one(their own) character.
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Role Playing is character development and all that that could/can entail. The depth of stories that unfold are normally in direct proportion to the depth of the character development. We can roll up 6 first level characters and slash our way through a Game Master's dungeon. We can throw them away or choose to stay with them and have the GM give more details to the world around the dungeon so that they can spend their recently earned loot. If the Game Master has been doing this long enough s/he has a world for them to explore and through their interaction with it they shall evolve further. An expansive world adds to the game; yet it all comes back to character development.
My thoughts anyway....
- Nova
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... the thing with feathers.
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... something to do, not to be discussed dead. :P
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...dead. LOL JK.
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Hmm.. To me its an opportunity to contribute to a story written by the rp community.
Like any good book, che characters speak about thing from THEIR perspective, not the author's.
... They are reasonable, balanced, believable.
... They interact with one another and with their environment.
To me a good rp should contain the same elements that you see in fiction:
An introduction or stage where characters meet one another, become known, congeal..
Some form of conflict at some point. The degree and type of conflict is a matter of personal preference.
Rising action, some twists and turns...
A climax - whether its a fight, revealation of new info, a tragig loss, whatever..
Some sort of ending
I'm not necessarily refering to a particular event when I talk about these elements. To me, they should exist over the lifetime of a character, and also with regard to shorter term episodes.
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Role play is assuming the role of a character and playing out their personality, not their archetype. Role playing adventures involve more than one character playing out their personalities leading them to conflict, resolution, and conflict again. It is not pre-planned by any means.
To role play is to immerse yourself in a story that has already been written, only no one has read it yet, you simply have to play it out to the end.
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i think roleplay is a way to escape boredom and experience something you couldn't as your real self. it's creating a story with other people.
this post would've been a lot better if i had some caffeine in the morning X-/
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I never meant to suggest that it should be pre-planned. I've tried that before and usually does not feel as good as a spontaneous rp. I do find though that without conflict, rising action and climax the rp can be very boring. Others would certainly disagree. To each his/her own.
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sorry i'm not like that at all
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I think roleplay is playing a role in a different society, that being the setting of this game, Ylaikum. Then you get in-depth with the character you are playing, in doing this, your character will have certain emotions and a certain history. With that your character will always change as he/she/kra interacts with other characters.
I agree with what everybody has said here, except weltall, I never know what weltall is talking about. :P
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I'll assume that weltall is completely off topic due to bloodedirishman's sig. :P So far though, it seems like the two big differences is if the focus is on the character or if it is on the story. Otherwise it seems like basically the same perspective. Mind you, more opinions are needed to make a real evaluation.
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...To give yourself a role and to play it.
Anything else is role-specific.
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... enjoyable at times, only not enjoyable if the other person uses complicated words!
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Another aspect that is somewhat unique to RP is the lack of end game. This harkens to the play of children; who only after being conditioned to the competition of the real world tend to change their style; looking more for an end game and a winning. Luckily not all forget the joy of such youthful play; that does not have an ending and one winner... but instead a flow of shared imagination.
- Nova
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I think RP is an amazing experience that lets you take a break from your life and control an interesting, unique character in an imaginative world. If you have the creativity and patience, you can write the story of someone who goes through discoveries, conversations, battles, friendships, and any other experiences that change them and lead to memorable points in their life. Role playing is getting to choose what a character is like at first, and then letting them grow and change their world a little through their interactions with others. (If you go by the whole "role play is holy" thing or just spend too much time playing PS :whistling:,) it's also sharing your character's emotions and getting to really care about them and the world around them. Oh, and it's just plain awesome. ^^
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Ps needs more people with Fyrre's personality and attitude :)
Its so true.. It can be rather fascinating when the rp suck your character into a given direction. Its like your fillowing that characyer, watching what they do.
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It is a nice sentiment. You could try being one of those people Rig. :P
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it's just plain awesome. ^^
i second that!Ps needs more people with Fyrre's personality and attitude :)
Its so true.. It can be rather fascinating when the rp suck your character into a given direction. Its like your fillowing that characyer, watching what they do.
that too
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......... it's just plain awesome. ^^
i second that
well i third this
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Fyrre smiles and gives a short purr to the comments on her post.
Now if only my character could be confident enough to rp outside of her guild more so I don't only experience that awesomeness once in a while... :sweatdrop:
And, um, if we're also adding what makes a good rp, it's nice when a character isn't completely good, evil, or neutral, but a mix of those in the same way that anyone in rl is.
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Confidence will come with time. I'd suggest finding open social RPs to join so that there isn't as much pressure for you to RP a certain thing. The fairs at the outpost, the Stonehead and Red Crystal Den should provide opportunities for this kind of RP. :thumbup:
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Fyrre smiles and gives a short purr to the comments on her post.
Now if only my character could be confident enough to rp outside of her guild more so I don't only experience that awesomeness once in a while... :sweatdrop:
Your character roleplays?
As long as your character wont RP you in RL everything should be fine, you know?
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To me RP is characterization. That is taking some basic characteristics and letting your character's personality develop from there. For me situations may occur that can change your character but the basics characteristics should remind unless there a a traumatic event that effects that.
For example:
If you have a nice character and they travel through the towns frequently and do not greet others on a regular basis they are not so nice
or, if you have a bad character and they do go through towns greeting everyone they are not so bad. Unless they are secretly bad and that is the ploy they hide behind. I have met a few like that.
Because of those basic characteristics, it may or may not be hard to find a place for your character in one of the many of the on-going RP Saga's or shorter story based RP's. That's the great thing about Characterization is that it creates a struggle for your character. Should they cross that line or not? What happens if they do? Does your character have the experience to avoid the situation somehow?
This is how I approach these types of RP's. Many do not fit the characteristics of my character. There may be a small part in there that I can play and that is what I look for. Supporting cast would be a good term for it. That can be just as interesting as being the main player of the RP. One does have to remember that many Saga's and Story based RP's operate with a designed direction. So you have to adjust slightly to that if it exists.
Jaycol for instance is not great with weapons or anything else. He will never win a battle for you and because he upholds the CoD creed of peace he most likely won't join you either. He does enjoy a watching a good fight however, so is more likely to show up on a hillside with a supply of beer and make bets on which side wins. He also is not stupid so he isn't going to find himself as a victim 9 out of 10 times. His friendly nature may get him in trouble , but his experience in the outlands allows him to sense and avoid it most of the time. In short he never goes looking for it.
This is the style and approach I use. It may not fit anyone else's style or preference of play due to their choice, experience, available play time, or what they find entertaining. It is after all a game. The thing I like about PS is that it is open ended. Meaning that I control the direction of game play for my character. So if he falls off a cliff tomorrow, bangs his head, and forgets who he is and has to start over again and goes in a different direction that is okay too.
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RP in a nutshell: Your character walks up to a person/people, your character will do something or say something to them that would make sense for your character to do/say. They should react in a way their character would. EVERYBODY you see in the RP server (skylab) is a character. That said: you can RP your character with anybody, what that anybody should do will always cause some form of reaction from your character, even if that anybody just ignored your character, or ran by quickly.
Side note: When people aren't playing a character in the RP server after they've been constantly told to stay IC, THAT is when they should be forcibly thrown into Ezpcusa.
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I think RP is tellingg a story, what you wanted your life to be IRL. But couldn't because its hard to live in the world :@#\
Its telling your second life story, or just for fun :)
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Fyrre smiles and gives a short purr to the comments on her post.
Now if only my character could be confident enough to rp outside of her guild more so I don't only experience that awesomeness once in a while... :sweatdrop:
Your character roleplays?
As long as your character wont RP you in RL everything should be fine, you know?
All I did was screw up the wording there. It's not really a big deal. I'm probably just taking offense when none was meant, but, fine, I mean "...confident enough to say more than a few sentences to another character or otherwise interact with them instead of with just a glance and maybe a greeting, outside of her guild more..."
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I think RP should be related to a book not a game or how the game my stop it, only the settings can restrict yourself. I also think RP lets you expand and let you go wild on your keyboard writing out an awesome description, story, or tale.
RP is great when there's someone to RP with who isn't hard and up them self thinking they are the best RPer and so they pick little holes in what you just said OOCly or ICly. I wish that there were more community activities going on, and more players to fulfil those activities or events with crazy out there RP. I also think RP is ruined by PLers and PLer type guilds who have background stories that make them have an excuse to PL.
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To me RP is: you play a role in a theather and yliakum is your stage.
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rp is getting to be or do things that one's self can't do or be in rl for one reason or another. /shrug
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rp is what you do when you're bored as hell
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I think RP is what people make long-winded threads about for no reason when they could just bloody-well play and make more RP in the game.
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Stick around a little longer grasshopper ;)
You'll see why people get fed up and leave.
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I think RP is a sophisticated form of playing dress-up.
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well said loose screw
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i think rp is where you poke holes in vakacheks theories.....oh wait, thats just the forums
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... easy to learn - but hard to master (http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=387)
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Roleplay is about playing roles that are coherent with a setting, a set of rules and the community that makes these up.
It's easy to learn and play out when everybody's having fun and respecting the simple rules it implies. There's no such thing as good or bad roleplayers. It's a binary situation: either you're a roleplayer and you allow everyone to enjoy the game, or you're an autistic idiot that's living a fairy tale.
Simple mistakes and misunderstandings are irrelevant, since the objective is creating the history that's the continuous outcome of the game.
Edit to say: I disagree LigH. I've seen people new to roleplay doing a better job than most roleplayers that have been around for ages. Because of one thing: they came here to have fun and that objective is still fresh on their heads.
Some people think they've mastered something and end up ruining everyone's experience by acting god, when they can be mistaken as often as the other.
Guilty as charged!
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...Delicious
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Roleplay is about playing roles that are coherent with a setting, a set of rules and the community that makes these up.
It's easy to learn and play out when everybody's having fun and respecting the simple rules it implies. There's no such thing as good or bad roleplayers. It's a binary situation: either you're a roleplayer and you allow everyone to enjoy the game, or you're an autistic idiot that's living a fairy tale.
Simple mistakes and misunderstandings are irrelevant, since the objective is creating the history that's the continuous outcome of the game.
Edit to say: I disagree LigH. I've seen people new to roleplay doing a better job than most roleplayers that have been around for ages. Because of one thing: they came here to have fun and that objective is still fresh on their heads.
Some people think they've mastered something and end up ruining everyone's experience by acting god, when they can be mistaken as often as the other.
Guilty as charged!
What do some of us do with our warped, twisted sense of "fun" then? :P
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i think rp is where you poke holes in vakacheks theories.....oh wait, thats just the forums
lol whose Vakachek... I only know Vakachehk.
Sorry but my theories are far more IC than yours.
I wouldn't place anyone in second command of a guild without a description...
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i think rp is where you poke holes in vakacheks theories.....oh wait, thats just the forums
lol whose Vakachek... I only know Vakachehk.
Sorry but my theories are far more IC than yours.
I wouldn't place anyone in second command of a guild without a description...
weather other people wanna rp or add a description or whatever really isnt my problem, i try my best to keep people ic when i can, but i dont hardly pay attention to descriptions anyway, i have derator as my second in command becuase he is trustworthy, if he doesnt have a desc i'll bring it up when i see him :P
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Then don't go around judging others opinions on RP thank you. :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: awkward situation. :P
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EDIT: Just move along. Nothing to see here.
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Well, with this week's wipe scheduled, rp will be complaining about lost items and such... At least for the next few weeks.
After that, surely nobody will care much.
Rp? Whuuus dat? You mean talking insteada playin? Bah!