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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Frois on November 01, 2010, 03:12:38 am
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The Shadow Hand is a Black Operation type guild. We sell our services to whomever has the money to pay for them. This is a secret guild.
The following are some examples of the ops we offer, but anything else is perfectly fine as well.
Assassinations, Sabotage, theft, kidnapping, torture, etc.
We also offer the possibility to give several specifications. Including the "False flag" option. This basically means framing. We'll conduct the operation and frame a person for it. By puting fabricated evidence on the scene.
The benefits of joining us:
Benefit #1: TRIA!! We do pay well, all depending on the difficulty of the op and the resources needed to conduct it.
Benefit #2: Job security, should you ever be in legal trouble because of a job you conducted poorly, we will get you an alibi, but you will have to pay it back.
Now the Benefits of doing work with us:
Benefit #1: Discretion, In no way do we ever reveal the names of the clients and so your identity is safe.
Benefit #2: Job well done, we always carry out our task one way or another.
Benefit #3: No guilt, you will never be mentionned to the authoryties even if we get caught. after all only the person you contacted will know who you are and it is unlikely that they would talk.
If you are interested in joining us, doing business with us or getting more information in a OOC manner. Contact one of the following characters: Zaft Lon, Meninur Horihe.
You can also contact me directly through this forum's private message.
The method for contacting us (ICly) is to go to the stonehead Tavern wearing a black scarf, another person wearing a black scarf will be the contact.
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Sorry, my talents might be great but I'm far to greedy to give up any of my pay. And getting points at 1 per assassination will cause nobody to get above intermediate, because you wont be able to find that many people ready to die.
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hmm... you may be right for the points thing as for giving up part of your pay don't forget this is an evil organisation and well being evil doesn't come cheap also it is to finance a guildhouse and voluntary donations would probably be hard to obtain, I'll review the points given per assassinations, I simply wanted it not to be too easy to rank up as well as making it in a way that would allow people to rank up in a fair way.
I guess you are right though I'll rectify this in the next couple of days. Thanks for pointing it out, it does seem difficult now that It was pointed out.
For the pay being taken it is to finance a guildhouse.... but then again I guess you are right this is pretty selfish as for the percentage, I'll check this out as well, I do wish to eventualy have a guildhouse but I guess there is no need to rush.
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All right, here it is I have changed it slightly, the ranks are no longer improved upon points as well as there is no longer an obligated quantity of Tria to pay. Also to solve the possible problem of how the intelligence department gain their money I have given them the right to sell this information to fellow guild members, as well as outsiders but to those it is forbidden to provide information about the guild or guild members. If anyone has any issue they would like to bring to my attention please do so.
The way ranks will be increased I will have to think about it and find someone who knows alot about the game mechanics so I can make it to be raised through stats requirement instead of points and such.
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You better be a secret guild... and don't be surprised if even the Octarchy will hunt you (meaning the GMs in their role as e.g. Hydlaa Guards).
Be careful in your play not to drift into godmodding. Not all of the players of your victims will enjoy their characters being killed.
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Haha I know, and I would not drift into god modding, in any assassination I would get someone to contact the player and ask them if they would be fine roleplaying an assassination on their character if they say no then the one assigned to it will have to figure out a way to kill the person in actual combat. Of course even in roleplay assassinations the victim always has a fighting chance, otherwise it simply wouldn't be fair. Even though we sadly can't do as in reality and the swift "walk behind them and stab them in the back while walking away like nothing" type assassination.
We're mostly roleplay but careful not to godmod as well as It is a secret guild also I did expect to be hunted down which is why the master is never revealed so not to get that person involved in any risk (a clever character which was created solely for the purpose of being evil and bringing fear to the world of yliakum) Once the guild is well set (by that I mean once I solved many issues) I'll be making a post on the forums on "how to approach an assassin 101" or something like that XD
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hmmm interesting guild, cheap name but still its an alright idea. I am sure there are many other guilds out there that are based around this one idea of assassins, but probably dead. Well good luck in the future, and shall The Dark Empire rule you, mwahahahahahaha! ;D ;D ;D
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Haha! Yes I have heard of alot of guilds that tried to establish themselvs like this but failed. As for the name: I originaly planned it to be in japanese but then I was told I couldn't do that :( I guess it could have been roleplayed as a dialect spoken in a far away land, but anyway I'll see if I change the name eventualy when I come up with better ideas.
And yes the cutthroats are simmilar to us but not quite the same. Also the ultimate plan I have for this guild is completely different. :devil: -insert evil smile followed by maniacal laughter- But this is a secret :innocent: thanks for wishing me luck and feel free to make an alt to join us haha!
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I just realised something. I'm building the guildsite but unfortunately it's very difficult since I only know the basic HTML and I can only figure out some javascripts I found online.
So If anyone is knowing in this and wishes to help please contact me through forum private message. thanks :D
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Does this remind me of a certain guild? Oh yeah! The Bounty Hunters... Pretty much the same thing. No offence of course, but I don't really see this guild lasting too long. There are a lack of evil players as it is, and many of them would join other evildoing guilds. I'm not trying to discourage you, just being the devils advocate :devil:
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OH no worries it's okay and by the way the bounty hunters will only hunt down people that have done evil things, The assassins will take out ANYONE they are paid to kill. Here's the difference. And I do enjoy when people point things out like you did, allows me to develop more haha :)
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Venorel starts making a list and then abruptly crumples it up; remembering Talad's lesson of forgiveness.
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;D
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There are a lack of evil players as it is, and many of them would join other evildoing guilds. I'm not trying to discourage you, just being the devils advocate :devil:
I wouldn't say evil characters joining evil guilds is his problem, it would more be the PLers catching every noob in the Tutorial >:(
Bounty Hunters, Tefusang Company, and many more. Bounty Hunters are a... well I don't know :P
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Fancy name you could use: Umbra Talea (Shadow Cutters)
I would join, but im already in a guild at my planned story arc just wouldnt allow it. However... I may be willing to do those odd side jobs for you, for a price. :devil:
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Yes well unfortunately I have no loose money so I can't even afford to pay to have a website online. Which puts some severe restrictions on what I can actually make for it... regardless if the name you suggested is from one of the ingame languages (I got no earthly idea if it is, but it sounds that way) I'd be happy to concider it. it does sound alot cooler. :) Thanks for the suggestio.
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(pssst, its a crummy latin translator)
And i meant tria, not irl money. XD
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Oooooh! Well Tria I can probably mannage depending on your fee. Contact me through forum pm so we can talk easier, I could even provide you with my guild msn so you can chat with me directly rather than have to wait for messages to come through. Also I did plan to name my guild in japanese but I figured this was way ooc so I decided to give it a lame name untill I think of something better.
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I can ask around, see if I can find an IG language version of it. And is Frois your guys name in game too, because I could just whisper you.
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well used to be but he was too depressing for me so I deleted him in favor of my new character Zaft if you want to go IG for us to whisper just say so and I'll go right away (If I am not IG within 15 minutes I'M most likely sleeping XD)
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I would join, but im already in a guild at my planned story arc just wouldnt allow it. However... I may be willing to do those odd side jobs for you, for a price. :devil:
hmmm would you also like to make a website for KIC? I would like to know your tria price :)
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So it's a Guild for lone Assassins? There seems to be no actual leadership, besides the interaction between Equipment and Intelligence Departments with the rest of the guild.
I'd reserve a rank for "Squad Leadership", and keep only one of the this-assassin-is-more-roxxor-than-the-others-rank. Also, I'd rename the Intelligence and Equipment Department to make it sound as nice as the other ranks. I'd make it look like they are still assassins, but they also do something else.
Here's what I mean:
1 - Wannabe
A member who hasn't participated in any kill.
2 - Rookie
A member who has either participated in three kills, or killed someone himself.
3 - Assassin
An experienced murderer, gets his orders from the Ringleader.
4 - Ringleader
Distributes jobs for the assassins and leads them in high rank jobs.
5 - Slayer
An Assassin charged with the Highest Rank jobs.
6 - Investigator
Charged with identifying and studying bounties and competition.
7 - Fence
Manages the Guild's storage and disposes of looted goods.
8 - Protagonist
Distributes missions to the Slayers and Ringleaders. Also acts like a representative of the Guild.
9 - Master Assassin
Head of the Guild, decides which missions to keep and, along with the Protagonist, the rank they belong to.
Structure:
The Assassins' Guild is a guild focused on assassinations. They receive payment from outside sources, who wish for the death of someone. Most of its members are secret, though some Protagonists are visible for the public to contact with the guild.
I'd do something like that if I were you. Less talk in front of the ranks, more talk about the structure and purpose and workings. Hope you like the ideas.
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Death in PS is a strange issue...as is finding players who are willing to have their characters perma-killed. Those are very few.
Then there's the fact that murdering is going to get the Octarchy coming down hard on you...and make that 'Very Hard' if you're using poisons to perma-kill.
One idea is though, that assassinations do not necessarily have to have the aim of perma-killing someone. Sending someone to the Death Realm gets them out of the way for quite some time (if it's RPd well): that can be useful.
Imagine: two characters are intending to bid for [insert shiny item here]. Character-A decides it'd be cheaper to hire an assassin to send Character-B to go have tea with Dakkru, rather than spend so much money at the auction.
The real trick is the assassin making sure the target doesn't see their face or anything that could ID them once/if they do get back to the land of the living.
Throw in making the kill look like an accident and you've got a real challenge.
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Excelent idea Sangwa! I'll think about it it does seem more fun. Although I did want to keep it simple at first. Also perma death was never my intention, in fact I simply planned for assassinations sending people to DR For reasons like Tadano Hitoshi said. Or simply if one would like to have someone suffer for some reason and we could also provide the "DR extra" Which might be something along the lines of "We'll kill them and keep them dead as long as you need. In exchange for the right price that is"
I'll think for the rank and description but for now I won't be able to since I have lots to do in real today. Thanks for the idea Sangwa and thanks for pointing this out Tadano Hitoshi.
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In-Game, i wouldn't want to RP an assasination as there are snobs who are good at playing and making difficult words to confuse you while you stab them. Also they would say you are godmodding if you are using a very powerful spell that you have learned, but they have not. Some RPers think they are above everyone else just because they RP very well, and so if you try doing a "/me animates ____'s shadow" they will call it a godmod, even though you DO know the skill.
ALso RPers would try a "/me luckily leaps out of the way before getting hit" <=== which is a godmod right there (It is godmodding because the asassin casting it has been training for years to get the spell right and the no-experienced "RPer" just 'luckily' leaps out of the way, It would be okay if the target was ALSO familiar with the spell, or is a great magician/fighter themselves). And if you try to argue with them, you always lose just because thye have been known to be the 'better' RPer.
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Very true but sadly it's not everyone that enjoys training endlessly with the sole purpose of murdering people. Of course it can be an actual combat as well as it can be roleplayed, it's to the preference of the assassin charged with the job and also the player who is getting assassinated. Which would be contacted OOC.
Also, sadly this game does not have the born abilyties we can have in real. some of us are gifted in stealth and truly wouldn't be seen, while in game it is possible to cheat, an annoying truth that is pathetic since I did see people cheat out of getting killed.
I mean honestly, a good assassin would walk behind the guy, jab him in the back with his dagger and disapear in a shadow. No need for roleplay or any combat this is true assassination but because we have to rp it is possible to cheat even though it's absolutely lame.
I simply hope that those who will be charged with an assassination know how to make sure someone doesn't cheat and in case of cheating they could always report the person to a GM.
Humans are sore losers by nature and so many will try to cheat their way out by roleplaying a character that is smarter than usual (using player smarts rather than character smarts) Running right through DR careless of the rp intended, simply declaring godmodding as you said. But regardless I think that no society is complete without a group of assassins, after all this business still exists in our modern day world. and it has existed throughout history
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Vaka vaka vaka, I wasnt talking about making a website. >.<
Though i know basic HTML and how to use microsoft expression... but putting the website onto the internet and all that goes beyond me
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Wouldn't assasins work alone? Don't they get payed by a rich client to murder somoene? They don't do it just for fun.
You should make this like a Yliakum CIA, after all there are assasins within the government. You could also make spies, fighters, etc rather than basing it on just one job.
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Usualy they work alone but through the ages groups of assassins were encountered, they used teamwork to take down ennemies faster and easier than they could alone, as well as to take down people who were very careful such as high nobility.
Although rare assassins do teamup to learn the ropes and to get more money faster. Also I am working on the charge for an assassination.
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Well, i am a bit interested if i can ever get online. Since my guild is probably dead i am in need of a new one. Also some people may not take me seriously as I am a crappy Rper (though im learning), but i can PvP.
You should change the name of the guild because it's too plain.
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Haha I'd be happy to see you online and welcome you in the guild also please keep in mind this is the equivalent of the beta version, I still have some "bugs" to filter out :) Same for the rank names, I decided to make it simple at first and as I get better idea improve them. In fact just the rank pruposes changed several times while I was working on the guild. same for it's history and don't get me started on that little phrase in red at the top.
If you want to plan a moment when you'll be able to log in so I can approach you send me a PM with your time zone and the times you'd be available so I could contact you. Being part of the underworld many rumors are heard and well it's the shadow's purpose to explore these.
Also as for the rank "shadows" and "master" these will never change since I don't plan this guild to be permanently an assassination guild. I have plans for it which will only be revealed through rp and I have already begun working on some rp for the guild. As well as the test(s) to rank up above Wannabe... but being completely ignorant of how the game mechanics work I can't really know how to make people rank up due to their stats. It's the one thing I absolutely need help on XD Even the master of the shadows has limits :lol:
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Well Maisent, you could always be the second in command nobody F's with, doesnt talk much, but wont hesitate to cutcha. XD
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You don't need to make it too complicated Frois, but it should be solid. Ranks that have simply to do with who is the greatest and who isn't will make it so you're constantly promoting people from one to another. Ranks with well defined purposes (levels of leadership, career, etc.) will allow you to create a fun interacting structure, which is actually easier to manage (because you have less temporary ranks.)
I'd also change the name. "The Assassins" is poor... Call it something along the lines of Dakkru's Gatekeepers, Silent Hand, or whatever.
Another note: I consider "roleplayed" fights are crap when the outcome is decided simply by one fool's gut. The animated shadows start coming in, along with the blazing eyes of doom and stuff like that. Geez, it's just so messy. Also, they totally disregard the work our developers have with the mechanics and they usually involve someone sighing with deception. However, I totally agree that if in a situation you've gotten behind someone in a dark alley/room and that character is (genuinely) unaware and you've got a dagger near its neck... Then it sure counts as a kill... If the target player agrees.
Still, your members should have some skill with daggers (you can make sure they do by seeing which types of monsters they can kill with it) and some agility as well (are there items that require you to have some amount of agility?)
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Geez.... how many times will I say it? I know the name sucks but I got more important things to do first, as for the ranks give me a break this is my first attempt EVER including in real life of gathering people. I am naturaly a loner because I have been bullied for years and I usualy try to push away people rather than draw them around me.
I will change the ranks I will deal with progression through the guild I will change the name and all that I know it's all in my to do list but there are more important things that come first like not losing my desire to go through with it. If I lose motivation (which is quite easy and doesn't even have to do with this at all) it will all go splat and good bye potentially awesome guild.
Also in the case of a RP assassination then the player would be contacted and a discussion would be made PRIOR to the actual rp. They would be asked if they minded being in a rp for a while and if not then we would explain to them how the rp would go. That it's an assassination and etc etc etc. An agreement would come between the people and if anyone claims they can fend off against 7 trained assassins and won't conform to logical behavior then they are bad roleplayers. I am not new to the rp concept and I have plenty experience when it comes to getting through to stubburn people. also I agree that skill is good and important as the game mechanics but as I said previously the whole mechanics is a total puzzle to me because it's so much of a mess!
There is no where that says what will raise what and what skill is neccessary for what kind of character. Because they try to make it so IC it becomes this huge mess. So before I start messing around with guild ranks and guild name and things like such I will first try to figure out the mechanics of the game so I can at least know how to level my character. After all the leader of an assassin organisation ought to be the best assassin there.
Sorry if I seem to have lost patience there, i did in fact lose it for a moment. Right now alot of things are making a huge mess for me. so very sorry for losing patience a bit I hope you can understand.
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Frois, you should make a huge 72 font bright red banner on your first post saying 'I KNOW THE NAME IS BAD, IM WORKING ON IT DAMMIT!'
and dont worry about Sangwa, from what I've seen she? (dont kill me, Sangwa could be an either gender name!) hasnt played in like years or something, and is considered a 'bitter oldbie'. No offense really intended.
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haha great idea phantom! I think if I'm told about it once more by someone else than someone who has already mentionned it I will do that! Might even make a whole picture to say it XD Or simply huge thing saying "This is the beta version leave me alone with the names!" well... yours sounds better so I'll stick with that. I need you in my guild lol
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Heh, sucks I got into another guild dont it? But im happy there... Ya can always find me IG though, Travosh Zetch. I do some spying work as it is anyways.
I would create another character, but Trav is low level, so i dont want to put time into two guys when one of them isnt high to begin with... Dont have just some maxed everything character that everbody else seems to have. >.<
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haha I met you a couple of times. Well anyways it's fine if you want you could serve as an advisor (completely ooc work which would only mean you give me your opinion and support when I wanna send this whole project to hell) If you are interested send me your email through forum PM so I can contact you without having to go through here (I'm always on msn so sending emails is faster and easier for me)
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Oh yeah, you're that guy from whatever desert is supposed ot exist on yliakum and cant fight. Somehow i doubt that now...
and ok, though i use Gmail. not MSN.
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haha okay but email works between systems and ya when we met I couldn't fight, though now I started getting some training into daggers so ya I can probably fight a bit now though I really don't understand the mechaniscs so I'm training blind so to speak. :sweatdrop:
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lol, isnt it against his religion or something to fight?
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lol he has no religion his people worship the earth and all it grants them. They thank the earth for everything, including the metal that was used to make the dagger they just used to stab someone in the back. :devil:
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thought he wasnt allowed to practice fighting or something, or was that a nice cover story?
And thats pretty much worship of Xiosia isnt it?
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Well it was because he was an outcast his fellow villagers (and persecuters) didn't want him to be a threat (they thought he was a demon or something like this, I'm already saying too much OOC lol but I do have a big mouth so it's normal although I never reveal secrets) And they were scared he'd kill everyone if he learned to fight or use magic or anything at all
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oh also, I guess it's like it but they don't have a god lol. They just worship pretty much anything without a god. I dunno I just invented something up to make it sound like he was harmless.
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Just posting to say I like your modus operandi.
before I start messing around with guild ranks and guild name and things like such I will first try to figure out the mechanics of the game so I can at least know how to level my character.
Also, tell if you need anything (literally, seek Morwen and Gartheiz in game). And don't worry if you rant, it's just normal to get annoyed at people in PS forum. We're just all too cocky.
Read my disclaimer. :D
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haha thanks and nice disclaimer I should make one of my own.
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This guild has undergone massive changes. From one purpose to another and to another one. We are decided now and have already begun to act as a guild IG