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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Knightspark9 on January 02, 2011, 08:40:15 pm

Title: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 02, 2011, 08:40:15 pm
What would be a good idea in my opinion, is having a referendum so that the player base can vote on what they want, and should happen. The gms can put one up every once in a while, know what to do, and viola!
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 04, 2011, 07:20:28 am
What's a referendum? Sorry couldn't be bothered looking it up.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: weltall on January 04, 2011, 09:55:48 am
in the political sense it's when people are called to vote on a certain law or similar things to have them accepted or removed.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 04, 2011, 12:09:55 pm
in the political sense it's when people are called to vote on a certain law or similar things to have them accepted or removed.

Ahhhh!
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Catlemur on January 04, 2011, 12:32:01 pm
I have already seen this idea in CoP and it was quite succesful.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 04, 2011, 12:33:53 pm
I don't really know how it would work though? like when it will be used?
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Sangwa on January 04, 2011, 03:55:34 pm
Indeed, sounds a bit hard to accomplish. Currently polls happen when the developers have questions about its acceptance in the public... I think it already works good.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 04, 2011, 10:59:53 pm
I don't really know how it would work though? like when it will be used?

Pretty much; the devs put up a poll, the highest vote gets the most work, so forth, until another comes and then they need more ideas, these could work with lore as well, which they have not done to much.

Imagine it like this: So and so devs put up a poll on which race to work on for the time being, players vote kran, therefore the gm team and devs work together to work on kran settings. See how it works?
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: weltall on January 04, 2011, 11:39:19 pm
it was already done in the past ... even quite recent past
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 05, 2011, 12:04:33 am
I don't really know how it would work though? like when it will be used?

Pretty much; the devs put up a poll, the highest vote gets the most work, so forth, until another comes and then they need more ideas, these could work with lore as well, which they have not done to much.

Imagine it like this: So and so devs put up a poll on which race to work on for the time being, players vote kran, therefore the gm team and devs work together to work on kran settings. See how it works?

Ohhhhh! I thought you were meaning to place it IG. Right yes these have happened in the paste like with the Wipe y/n. But never happened to the winning side (Yes) I actually voted No but now I vote yes and still do.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 05, 2011, 02:04:46 pm
They need to keep doing this then; it will really help get things done.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Perlam on January 06, 2011, 05:14:28 pm
I think the PS team does a fine job in having a biweekly meet the Devs meeting, all players can be heared there. IMHO i'd say: first look at all given possibilities before making expressions like this.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 07, 2011, 07:49:58 am
Um, PS is an absolute monarchy, not a democracy. The usual forum goers should know this by now.
PS can't become a Monarchy without being a democracy. E.g PS has no future if not accepting the feed back and criticism from the players.


@Perlan The meet the devs meetings seem to be a good idea. However they cannot do votes IG as great as in here. I do though agree with Knightspark9 on having some more polls.


My idea of a poll would be: What do you think the art devs need to work on?
Remake of Hydlaa Plaza (It seriously needs to be done!!!)
More models
Animations
...

The most votes won't necessarily mean that it wins, but more of the discussion and what comes up in that, that Talad sees is a very important comment. It also is getting player feed back and opinions. But still it doesn't mean it will happen or that it's making PlaneShift into a democracy (ran by the players).
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Perlam on January 07, 2011, 09:43:57 am
@Perlan The meet the devs meetings seem to be a good idea. However they cannot do votes IG as great as in here. I do though agree with Knightspark9 on having some more polls.


My idea of a poll would be: What do you think the art devs need to work on?
Remake of Hydlaa Plaza (It seriously needs to be done!!!)
More models
Animations
...

sounds contradictonary  ;D but i know what you mean, and you got a point, cheerio

[edit] sorry, misread, thought you said IC :)
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 07, 2011, 09:47:24 am
sounds contradictonary  ;D but i know what you mean, and you got a point, cheerio

Just a simple idea or example. But thank you!
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Chucki on January 07, 2011, 11:47:30 am
Um, PS is an absolute monarchy, not a democracy. The usual forum goers should know this by now.

Monarchies can be debatably more successful than democracies. Lacedaemon won the Peleponesian War over Athens.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 07, 2011, 11:30:09 pm
This is what many people, one of those being myself, have tried to point out. And sadly enough, many of those many have been muted and banned.

Agreed, that's just it, PS has no future, I never said that's what PS does, it's what PS should do ;). But what you said, those people probably said some personal and very offensive things, yes they were angry, because the devs weren't listening to them and yes that is definitely not the way for Talad to go by banning them. I mean seriously why ban them, they're just going to go to MMORPG.com or Wikipedia, or some other website and make PS look even worse.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 08, 2011, 04:21:53 am
Please don't spam my thread with arguments, tyvm.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 08, 2011, 04:23:38 am
Please don't spam my thread with arguments, tyvm.

Sorry...
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 09, 2011, 09:48:20 pm
Ok; heading back on topic.... What things do you think the devs should work on?
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 09, 2011, 11:09:51 pm
A new Hydlaa Plaza, this one looks shaggy, baggy, faggy, raggy, and of course laggy  :P

I think the new one should have shops going all the way around the plaza dish, and maybe even something like an Emporium (A very wealthy shopping mall) a much nicer Harnquist area. More detailed temple and yeah...
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 09, 2011, 11:41:18 pm
I love the idea.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 10, 2011, 12:29:55 am
Thank you Knightspark9.

Yes well being the capital and apparently suppose to be the largest city in Yliakum, I think it needs a lot more larger/taller buildings like terrace houses and what not, you can still keep the Hydlaa architecture just make them 3 stories and attached. Also any reason why Kada-Els is at the back of Upper Hydlaa? why isn't it looking over the view of the city?
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Perlam on January 10, 2011, 02:36:31 pm
perhaps one could wonder more why Hydlaa has only one open bar, and one owned by players... being the capital and all
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 10, 2011, 11:27:56 pm
perhaps one could wonder more why Hydlaa has only one open bar, and one owned by players... being the capital and all

Kada-Els I think was once owned by a player named Kada-El. But hmmm yeah, I suppose keeping Kada-Els and making a small simple bar somewhere around the plaza, and then keeping the RCD.
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: neko kyouran on January 10, 2011, 11:53:33 pm
Kada was one of the first players to make large contributions to this game.  She made a tavern.  And for her efforts, her website became immortalized in game.

http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=501.0

http://web.archive.org/web/20030320015043/http://thebbb.tk/

i like how you can still access the guild list from the old archived site.  now there's some old guild names.

oh and to be on-topic, i vote someone goes and drags kada back ;-)
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Garile on January 13, 2011, 01:07:34 am
Hmm to be honest the first thing that came to mind when I read that was "She might be rather dissapointed in how little happened in the last nine years"
Title: Re: Referendum
Post by: Vakachehk on January 13, 2011, 08:44:47 am
Hmm to be honest the first thing that came to mind when I read that was "She might be rather dissapointed in how little happened in the last nine years"

Lol, I agree she would probably! She'd probably be like why hasn't someone re-done Hydlaa  :P