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Title: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Falcon Avian on January 17, 2011, 07:59:35 pm
I would REALLY wish to know who's bright idea it was to raise the cap level of skills to 200 >:[ People were power leveling enough with the max being 150 at most. We might as well change the name Planeshift to Furnaceshift now. The most exciting rp now will be who can get the tria fastest to max max everything to 200. I might as well just give up ever trying to find a decent rp now and go play games that are intended to power level since this is what this game is trying imitate now. And for those those 1% of people who actually do something other than mine and smith all day. Esorono went into the death realm and hasn't come back and Oralon left the cave and went to another hiding spot grumbling about people.

As for everyone else, enjoy power leveling every skill to 200! >:(

p.s. The forums needs an angrier looking emote.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: RlyDontKnow on January 17, 2011, 08:05:41 pm
so it's only possible to RP once you're bored because you cannot train anything anymore and you do need to max out all skills? ::|
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: lilura on January 17, 2011, 08:07:53 pm
aww eso  :'(  dont leave just give it a few days and most people will be out of the OMG NEW LVLZ MUST LVL!! stage

I know that myself and several others are always happy to RP with you but we do train and explore the new things added to the game when they are new  :) We also gotta have something to do during times of the day when there isnt much RP going on or just not in a RP mood


dont leave meeeeee  :'(  :'( :(  
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: weltall on January 17, 2011, 08:11:06 pm
yeah don't leave esorono i'll miss you!  :'(
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Mekora on January 17, 2011, 08:30:49 pm
Did you average out the tria so it would be the same overall? Or did you just add tria on to the next levels? Btw, don't leave Eso.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: novacadian on January 17, 2011, 08:47:32 pm
The most exciting rp now will be who can get the tria fastest ...

Didn't the Guild House auctions demonstrate that? 

Take a deep breath and three circle dances, Eso, and pm me in the morning.  ;)

- Nova
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Caraick on January 17, 2011, 08:49:54 pm
Don't leave...  :(
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: MishkaL1138 on January 17, 2011, 08:52:03 pm
Silly Klyros, we're enjoying our lackas at the Den and dancing. You don't know what you're missing.

This thread makes no sense. Leave the PLing to he PLers, and the RPing for the RPers. All your friends are RPers that will drop their bronze at storage to roleplay with you.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: scotty110 on January 17, 2011, 09:05:11 pm
yeah, where's my favorite exploding klyros!?!
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Knightspark9 on January 17, 2011, 09:07:33 pm
* Takes out axe * You give it another chance er' I'll smack ya with ma axe!


Please? * sniff *  :'(
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: weltall on January 17, 2011, 09:10:48 pm
Silly Klyros, we're enjoying our lackas at the Den and dancing. You don't know what you're missing.

This thread makes no sense. Leave the PLing to he PLers, and the RPing for the RPers. All your friends are RPers that will drop their bronze at storage to roleplay with you.
agreed!
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Xifer on January 17, 2011, 09:13:40 pm
I would REALLY wish to know who's bright idea it was to raise the cap level of skills to 200 >:[ People were power leveling enough with the max being 150 at most. We might as well change the name Planeshift to Furnaceshift now. The most exciting rp now will be who can get the tria fastest to max max everything to 200. I might as well just give up ever trying to find a decent rp now and go play games that are intended to power level since this is what this game is trying imitate now. And for those those 1% of people who actually do something other than mine and smith all day. Esorono went into the death realm and hasn't come back and Oralon left the cave and went to another hiding spot grumbling about people.

As for everyone else, enjoy power leveling every skill to 200! >:(

p.s. The forums needs an angrier looking emote.

I'ma miss you man :( I really enjoyed RPing with you, i'm sorry I couldn't log Xifer on more too.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Illy2 on January 17, 2011, 11:09:55 pm
Aww... poor eso... is he still exploding when drinking lacka? ::| Stop that, you'll mess up the den. ;) Take care eso.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Phantomboy86 on January 17, 2011, 11:26:24 pm
Yeah dude! Don't leave me here! Now they'll only be one other person capable of being harmed! (not counting Esalir... he knows how to get me back. >.>)

Like mishka said, those who PL (yeah... probably still 80% of the game. Lets just call them the furnaceshift community) will continue to do so, and those who dont wont. You think ill get off my arse to level? Hell no!
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Caraick on January 18, 2011, 02:22:02 am
Look at all those who miss you -already-, Eso... Please come back.... We miss you  O--)
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Sarras Volcae on January 18, 2011, 03:19:35 am
eso... D:<
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Vakachehk on January 18, 2011, 03:23:05 am
Nawww we need Esorono back, PS will be lame without him!
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: LigH on January 18, 2011, 08:14:06 am
I don't understand this problem.

I have no character with all stats maxed. I have not even one character with only one skill maxed.

And I am still happy. Because I roleplay.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Garile on January 18, 2011, 09:24:54 am
Well I -am- pissed.

I almost had swordskill at 100 and they raise the max to 200 AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH  ;D

As for the grind I do agree Eso that I think it's completely undesirable the way it is now, but to be honest the real roleplayers never had their stats maxed anyhow so who really are you going to miss?
Perhaps roleplaying will be a bit less this week becuase people are exploring the new trainers and have some more training planned in then useal, but today the tavern was full both times when i visited so it's not like everyone is just leveling.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Tessra on January 18, 2011, 10:43:24 am
I'd like to point out, that on at least one of those trips Garile made to the tavern, there were at least 4 notable PLers there, one of which already had maxed their physical stats, the other 3 hadn't and were simply enjoying the roleplay.   ;D

People who are good roleplayers will be able to balance the time they spend in role play and the time they spend in leveling stats and skills.  Simple as that.  People who aren't very interested in the role play aspect of the game, will focus more on other things, like earning tria and leveling.  That's how it's always been. 

Let's face it, no one NEEDS maxed stats and skills.  The main people who choose to get them are those who want to be able to duel, or carry heavier loads.  If you want to focus on just RP, then just RP.  No one is going to go around and nag anyone else for having un-maxed stats. 

Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: LigH on January 18, 2011, 02:21:30 pm
Well, there are professions where optimal stats are useful (e.g. hunter); but we all learned how much more important skills for weapons and armor (and magic) are now in combat. And they are much harder to increase than stats because they require practicing.

How unrealistic -- stats requiring no practice, only theory lessons... oh, sorry, that was already said 100+3 times before.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Dzyan on January 19, 2011, 05:40:23 pm
Well I think what he is pointing out, or aiming at, is that if you want to role play with some "real" backup, is going to be much harder now. Lets say you roleplay you are a mighty warrior, then you would like to have great stats and high lvl of sword and armor, so if you say you can kill great beast, you really kill them, just to give more realism to it.
Now with the changes, any mighty warrior is back again some sort of normal player, that has a long way to go, and if he wants to give backup to his roleplay he will have to give up to the roleplaying fo a while, so he can train.
Lets face it, when you play this type of game, many people actually like to train and do the things they say they do. If not you would just need a game with no stats or skills, and plain models that can move around. Really wouldnt be any need of world, or history or anything, because after all you are just making up everything.
I find it too, annoying that if you want to make a nice coherent roleplaying, you will need not to roleplay a long time, to train everything.

All this said, don't leave the game, as many said, people will settle down, and the players that rpg a lot will keep doing it!
In other hand, I think you feel frustration, because there is not improvement in sight for rpging.  Maybe you could think out something that would help make more people roleplay (I posted on the thread about New Trainers, an idea about something I think could help make the players interact more)

Regards.-

PS: Please don't say like what he posted about doesn't make sense. Because if there are some players that roleplay without the need of training, that doesnt mean that there are not other players that like to train, specially on what they like to roleplay about.
Different people likes to play in different ways, and a change like this affects the big group that actually likes to have maxed the stats that relate with the personality of their characters.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Candy on January 19, 2011, 08:53:19 pm
Yes, I'm going to PL more now that stats are higher. No, I'm not going to max everything. No, I'm not going to stop roleplaying, and no, I'm not going to avoid RP so I can grind. If you want to whine at everyone about how it's all grind all the time, troll RuneScape. We won't miss the x-killed-roleplay threads.

There will always be those that send the ever-so-frustrating tells like: [I really don't want to roleplay right now, I need to get (insert skill) leveled up] or [Can't RP, need to mine 'cause I'm broke]. But that's not everyone's mindset...someone says that to you, simply go find someone else to RP with instead of logging onto the forums and bawling about the lack of roleplay.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: echong on January 19, 2011, 09:12:04 pm
I admit, I'm new here, but why do leveling and RP have to be at odds with each other? why can't they go hand in hand? for example, need to level your fighting skills? organize a hunting expedition. Or a mining expedition with some friends. Or spark up some conversation when you're hanging around the forge working on some smithing. Like to cook? Cater a guild banquet or just host a feast for all your fellow RPers to get together. I don't see why it has to be one or the other.

On a different note, I'd rather not have my character description say that my character is "Dumb as rocks", and so yeah, I'm working on that, but having a great time meeting and interacting with other characters, trying to develop my character as a character, and not just a list of stats.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Hipie_Froboz on January 19, 2011, 09:37:24 pm
Please come back Eso... there are still the hardcore rpers, and everytime one leaves, it makes it more likely another will.
it's your choice. I'll hope to see you soon.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: echong on January 19, 2011, 09:44:34 pm
be the change you wish to see in PS
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: scotty110 on January 19, 2011, 10:05:53 pm
i still think skill grinding here is nothing compared to skill grinding in EVE Online it takes years to get the skills needed to do alot of things well in that game
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Hipie_Froboz on January 19, 2011, 10:25:22 pm
Well... that isn't a rping game is it?

and it's hard to rp when everyone else is grinding or questing.
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: Caraick on January 19, 2011, 10:36:29 pm
be the change you wish to see in PS


What he said...  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Why not just get rid of rp all together?
Post by: novacadian on January 20, 2011, 05:23:10 am
I admit, I'm new here, but why do leveling and RP have to be at odds with each other?

It may be confusing to newcomers, echong, because the term roleplay (RP) has come to mean something very different than it may mean to a more traditional table top variety Role Player.  Believe me, it confused the heck out of my for the longest time.

- Nova