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Title: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 08, 2011, 03:27:53 pm
So, I was listening some modern music, Angolese I think, And I thought: what about traditional music instruments in Yliakum? Surely there are some peculiar instruments, made by... Tefusang claws, or drums made with ulbernaut skin... flutes made with riverling bones...
Being a Klyros, I found myself thinking about instruments with water as resounding element... what could be the resultant sound?
Traditional music is based on a pentatonic scale?
Do you have some sketches in mind? Sound samples?
There are some guidelines from the settings department?
Let's talk about it!
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: LigH on February 08, 2011, 04:22:44 pm
Being a Klyros, I found myself thinking about instruments with water as resounding element... what could be the resultant sound?

Reminds me on "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" / "Jean Michel Jarre: Ethnicolor"... :D
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Following stereotypes, I could imagine Enkidukai using string instruments, Dwarves preferring drums and organic horns, Xacha having brass tubes, elves using xylophones and chimes... Kran might even have infrasound.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: MishkaL1138 on February 08, 2011, 05:33:51 pm
Enkidukai have the H'oka Pont. It's a stringed instrument. It'd be awesome to see such a thing implemented as a playable object.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: LigH on February 08, 2011, 06:13:56 pm
Enkidukai have the H'oka Pont. It's a stringed instrument.

Possibly similar looking to a mandoline with an angled neck?
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: MishkaL1138 on February 08, 2011, 06:45:25 pm
¯\(o_º)/¯ You could try and draw it xP
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: echong on February 08, 2011, 09:37:49 pm
Enkidukai have the H'oka Pont. It's a stringed instrument.

Possibly similar looking to a mandoline with an angled neck?

i'm hoping for something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kora_(instrument)

Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Parallo on February 08, 2011, 10:19:53 pm
http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 08, 2011, 10:27:51 pm
http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/

I like it!  :D
http://www.oddmusic.com/clips/bubble_organ.mp3

ant this glass armonica it's really something!
http://www.oddmusic.com/clips/armonica.mp3
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Sarras Volcae on February 09, 2011, 12:57:31 am
Following stereotypes, I could imagine Enkidukai using string instruments

fur and claws don't work well with string instruments.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 09, 2011, 01:46:18 am
it depends from strings material. Think of claws as a plectrum on steel strings, for example... sounds pretty good, for me.

this could be roughly a klyros wind instrument, partially filled with water. Gurgling sounds like those of a previous post could be the result.

http://img812.imageshack.us/i/klyroswaterinstrument.png/
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: LigH on February 09, 2011, 09:56:33 am
¯\(o_º)/¯ You could try and draw it xP

Please refer to different forms of a lute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lute).
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And ... the "oddest" instrument is possibly the Theremin (Etherophon). But it is electrical, so not suitable for PS...
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 09, 2011, 11:24:54 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kora_(instrument)


this works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kora_(instrument)#

a claw perhaps needs more space between strings:

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2429/chordinstr.th.png) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/chordinstr.png/)
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: LigH on February 09, 2011, 11:39:05 am
Played on the ground, horizontally - like a Zither or a pedal steel guitar?
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Mask on February 09, 2011, 12:15:19 pm
Jayose's, upstairs. There's a book about it.


And ... the "oddest" instrument is possibly the Theremin (Etherophon). But it is electrical, so not suitable for PS...

Glyp, perhaps? There is a lot of crazy stuff one could do with magic when it comes to music: Amplifying/distorting voices and instruments or built instruments. The updraft between the different levels could also be used as a sound source (giant pipes etc with shutters to turn them off).
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 09, 2011, 12:29:41 pm
i'd say played vertically, while sitting on the ground, the terminal part laying on a shoulder like this:

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6108/scrap007a.th.png) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/scrap007a.png/)
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: LigH on February 09, 2011, 02:21:43 pm
You are good in drafting. May give a good concept artist.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on February 09, 2011, 09:24:07 pm
Thanks LigH.
as for the h'oka pont, there's actually a good description in the library. On the other hand, leaves a lot of things to our imagination. For klyros instruments is a bit more specific, though.   ::)
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Cirerey on February 21, 2011, 02:34:41 pm
I was thinking about this and came up with a concept of a diaboli instrument. Diaboli come from a loud smoke filled island, where communications would be difficult. Their traditional instrument would probably double as a communications device, like a signal drum or a bugle. So naturally, I thought a variant bagpipe would make sense. It is also likely to be unpleasant for most people, something that diaboli would like. My concept was of a large instrument made of brass (there being little wood on the island diaboli came from). I thought it would have a drone and two chanters, all of them coiled together and merging to share a single bell. It would also have elaborate valves like a french horn. I would name it a "Diaboli Caller".

I thought it would exist in multiple registers, like a saxaphone (alto, tenor, etc..)

Two more ideas about it:

One is that it could have become a traditional instrument for funerals of the Ochtarcal guards. However only a few diaboli still know the original signaling code. And a bit of diaboli mischief has continued. The traditional guards theme translates to something like "I'm a guard / I don't understand my words / I'm babbling like a fool / because I'm a guard. But only a handful of diaboli musicians and a few scholars would know that.

two is that the traditional way of referring to playing this instrument is to say "I am embracing my foe" in diabolese. This may or may not refer to the original source of leather on the airbags. It may also just mean it's really hard to play the instrument well. The answer is unknown and unprovable.

I would love to give my diaboli character one of these.

Comment if you think there is any value in the idea.

A.K.A. Cirerey
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: BoevenF on July 18, 2011, 12:37:14 pm
a weird bagpipe, not bad!

It seems also that GSoC people are developing some exciting code for music support in PS, I look forward to... hear it! Be ready all of you, masters of the musical way...
http://planeshift.ezpcusa.com/pswiki/index.php?title=Sound_System
http://planeshift.ezpcusa.com/pswiki/index.php?title=GSoC_weekly_reports
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Imshi on July 21, 2011, 12:41:56 pm
I know of two instruments that currently seem to be part of the Planeshift world. Pan Flute, a quest reward, strangely the quest giver has not spoken to any of my characters old or new in years. The Serpent, look at the snake like design on the walls inside Laanx Temple. Look closer and you can see the mouthpiece, bell, and finger holes.
Would like to see single and multi drone bagpipes available in time, a version of our Wine Glass Harp or Harmonica [produces amazing sound from a collection of wineglasses filled with water to a varying degree. Played by lightly rubbing fingertips around the glass rims], Tubular Bells, a Planeshift version of instruments used in Gamelan ensembles.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Aramara Meibi on July 22, 2011, 05:33:26 pm
a Planeshift version of instruments used in Gamelan ensembles.

GAMELAN!!!  \\o//

also I noticed that snake looking thing in the temple and thought that it looked like some sort of woodwind or brass instrument. Would be neat to see one in the game world.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: brassbender on July 23, 2011, 03:17:57 pm
Gamelan, the simplest instrument = anklung. Made of bamboo, just produces one note when shaken.
If the "serpent" would be resembling the rl serpent, it would have a trumpet mouthpiece and side holes like a flute.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Imshi on July 23, 2011, 04:09:51 pm
It certainly does, go inside the Laanx Temple in Hydlaa and look at the walls.
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: Aramara Meibi on July 23, 2011, 09:08:39 pm
a good settings questions is: what significance does the serpent instrument have with the Laanx religion that it is plastered all over the temple entrance walls?
Title: Re: Traditional music and instruments in Yliakum: Brainstorming!
Post by: MishkaL1138 on July 24, 2011, 01:17:16 am
A good place where you could ideas for Enkidukai instruments would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Japanese_musical_instruments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Japanese_musical_instruments)