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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Noobstorm on July 18, 2013, 08:10:50 am

Title: Immersion
Post by: Noobstorm on July 18, 2013, 08:10:50 am
Sorry if some of this has been suggested before.

I think, to promote an RP atmosphere, that player names should be hidden until introduced. Instead of their name, it could say their gender and race. For example: "Male Klyros" or "Female Nolthrir." After being introduced by someone, (with /introduce, or right click + introduce) their name will be visible.

Also an option to write in a name for strangers would be useful too. Some examples: "flower thief" or "suspicious person."

And finally, I think descriptions should be enforced according to the guidelines that appear in-game:
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This window is what people read when they click on you; this box is not to be filled with anything other than things that a person could reasonably perceive with their senses. There is no reason to include anything beyond what one can sense when looking at your character. While sensual detail ONLY is to be included, this does not mean that you should be sparing, please include as many appeals to the senses as your character clearly eminates that can be sensed with the five accepted senses (sight, touch, hearing and smell (being primary)(only list taste if you anticipate people tasting your character)).
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Minks on July 18, 2013, 09:16:23 am
Been there, done that, failed horribly.  X-/
http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=31728.0
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Illysia on July 18, 2013, 09:18:46 am
hehe... Yeah this was actually already implemented but rather than give name it just said "Someone". It was a disaster in a way. I always liked the idea but we just never figured out how to tweak the implementation to make it actually work. However getting something like Male Diaboli instead of everyone being called Someone is a great tweak. The biggest problem with the system was that you had no idea who was talking to you until you were introduced which lead to players circumventing the system for practical reasons.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Tuathanach on July 18, 2013, 10:22:29 am
I did like the idea of this before, I felt they should have at least left you knowing the people who were in your guild as displaying their name. Possibly also those on your buddy list.

It would be good if it also allowed people to show their guild, as some guilds have badges that members wear.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: LigH on July 18, 2013, 10:38:03 am
A marginal step into a similar direction is setting the label options to only show on target or mouse. I know it's not the same...
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Rigwyn on July 18, 2013, 10:58:25 pm
The burdon of remembering who your character met is on the role player. As for newbies who get confused about name tags, it can work in your favor to some degree. If someone calls you by name, its a hint that they may be new. Ooc discussion can confirm this and lead to an opportunity to welcome them to the game. Having both an ic and conflicting ooc discussion at the same time should either clue them in to what is happening or prompt them to ask questions.

If I remember correctly, I don't think we had chat bubbles over people's heads when *someone* was implemented. You saw test from *someone* in the chat box, but had no idea who it came from.


Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: bilbous on July 18, 2013, 11:44:02 pm
Ah yes all the lovely people running around spamming /introduce hoping against hope someone would introduce themselves back. I never did. That was the beginning of me calling everyone bud and claiming to be bud myself. Good times. Seems all the npcs know my name why shouldn't the pcs as well?

If you ask me how I knew your name I'll just claim that Harnquist told me, if not him maybe Thorian made a mind reading potion and listened to your inner thoughts. Me and him have been tight on the odd occasion. I am not sure why anyone would get upset about such a small thing. Maybe I should just call you Axeface as someone refers to one heroic dwarf npc. Would you prefer booger breath?

Using someone's name all the time might tend to indicate you care about their feelings. Surely that isn't always the case.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: yourcharname on July 19, 2013, 02:17:27 am
no
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: bilbous on July 19, 2013, 02:48:10 am
http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=31728.0 (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=31728.0)

I was posting as prolix at that time
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: novacadian on July 19, 2013, 02:42:47 pm
The only way for this wish to be minimally tolerable is if we could unique-ify our avatars like one can on http://osgrid.org. You've heard the one about three Roleds walking into the Keda right?   :woot:

[ Edit: /s/Keda/Kada/g ]
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: LigH on July 19, 2013, 03:16:37 pm
Uhm, no; but the true Roled will have had dried Joopiner berries and pie crumbs on his collar.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: novacadian on July 19, 2013, 03:26:37 pm
Uhm, no; but the true Roled will have had dried Joopiner berries and pie crumbs on his collar.

 ;D \\o// :thumbup:
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: tman on July 19, 2013, 07:42:15 pm
In general people only use their own name when introducing themselves to someone else, right?

Well maybe a solution is any time someone says their own name in main, everyone in earshot counts as being "introduced."  You don't have to go out of your way to introduce yourself to everyone in a group, just say "Hi I'm <name>" and it'll count.

Or just leave the game the way it is.  It's usually not that hard to remember people you've met.  And if it is, then just say your char is bad at remembering faces and reintroduce yourself.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: yourcharname on July 20, 2013, 12:35:38 am
no
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Chessire on July 20, 2013, 05:37:33 am
Maybe this would be interesting to try again. Perhaps if we lowered the chat bubble's position so they re visible most of the times and implemented a speaking animation? There has also been a suggestion of changing the intensity of letters on the chat window according to your distance from the speaking person, I think there is a PS mod somewhere too. All this could make hidden names functional.
There are more things to improve this, as writing race and gender instead of "someone" or allowing each player to give a personal color to their writing on the chat window, example, names appear always in green but my speech appears purple, yours is red, someone else's yellow etc, although said colors should probably differ from the ones used on whisper, guild, system and other channels.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Rigwyn on July 20, 2013, 07:58:01 am
The idea of colored voices/text sounds kind of neat, though if proper limits are not in place it could be very annoying- ie. dark navy or dark grey on black could be a pain to read. I could also see people changing color to reflect a spur of the moment mood or to as a kind of personal identity. This could get confusing....  *shrugs*


Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Roled on July 22, 2013, 08:34:14 am
Hey! Just because Roled is overly friendly and insists on introducing everyone to everyone else doesn't mean he doesn't wash his collar.....

(umm, er, well, that made sense in my head at least  :o )
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Candy on July 22, 2013, 10:23:32 am
Come on now, a fashionista like Roro wouldn't let a pie stain ruin his collar.

He'd obviously wear something like this if he knew pie was going to be involved: https://ribstaincamo.com/
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: Eonwind on July 22, 2013, 10:55:02 am
having a speaking animation would be nice (just like having more animations in general) but hiding names of characters no thanks, that's very annoying!!!
likewise customizing one's dress color would be very nice but customizing the label's color no thanks, we'll end up with labels unreadable by someone.

if you want to keep track of the people you introduced to use the buddy list feature.
Title: Re: Immersion
Post by: LigH on July 22, 2013, 11:13:54 am
 :-[ Oooh, Roled, of course you are a clean elf. Just ... how many shirts to change will you carry with you, before you get back to the river? If you can convince me that Vanima Fae always has at least another set in her saddle pockets, I will apologize.  :innocent: