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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: steuben on September 23, 2014, 12:28:01 pm
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i vaguely recall that early in the octarch's reigns that they were discouraging the use of languages other than the common tongue... and that they were also suppressing certain elements of the history before their time and some of the early years of the octarch's reigns.
now i'm not sure if i'm remembering correctly, making it up completely, or leaking info from a previous life. if the first one can someone point in a direction either in game, which library it is in, or online.
if the third let me know and i'll not mention it again... atleast until formally released.
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Regarding the suppressed history, I wonder if you refer to early epochs (like the Lemur and the ten cities of Kadaikos, which got suppressed by Laanx mainly, but chronicles do exist as two in-game books); this epoch is briefly documented in the "History" page.
More details about early events from the founding of the Octarchy during the fifth epoch of "the two temples" can probably be collected across the history of each race, I remember some intrigues being mentioned in the relations between Ylians and Enkidukai.
But without prior knowledge which of the many in-game books may be relevant, it may be time consuming to read through all the books in "Jayose's" developer library; not all book titles are obvious enough to grab attention of the seeker of historical knowledge.
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That would be the fifth epoch then.
Those books are in game or elsewhere?
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okay found the wiki... will have to chew through the race histories... was kind of right about the language thing.
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I believe the wars that caused the founding of the Octarchy were forbidden knowledge, there was an attempt to whitewash history. Also the common tongue was adopted as the official language of the land. This may have changed, I haven't looked at the books lately. You could try the wayback machine to see what the main site used to say about these matters.
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I meant the "Races" pages on the website also. They contain a kind of history schedule each, where you may spot names of governors and assassins. If there are none before a certain date, that may be on purpose...
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dang, the time frames aren't what i was hoping.
dakkru and xiosia are late arrivals to the game. so was the death realm always around or did it start when D showed up. for the most part i'm reading D's and X's rise to prominence as fill in the vaccuum left by talad and lannx's absence.
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Dakkru showed up in the DR one day as it predated her. If you read the books in the library there you can find out more. They may have changed since I last looked but the DR was developed a few years before Dakkru was ever heard of by the players.
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dang that means i may have to chuck a line.
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I believe both Dakkru and Xiosia were instituted during Xillix's watch. The Death Realm predates most things, save only combat and a few other things. Oja was still around but may still have been beyond the magic shop. Gugrontid and the BD were not yet available. If you read the books, at least the last time I did, the Death Realm is ancient although its connection to Yliakum may not be. Parts of the structures are built on the skeleton of some gigantic long dead beast. Then again primary sources are best not the poorly remembered musings of a doddering old kran.
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Both gods were indeed introduced at that time and at least Xiosia was introduce in an event in the secret garden; I was there. I believe they were not meant to be written into the history but rather included from that point forward.
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that's the fun part about dev time and game history. and the annoying thing about things being released in dribs and drabs.
i'm working on a story set in the early days of the octarchy... which means i have to balance what is known against what might be released.
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You might be able to write the missing history, filling in all the missing details.
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Don't sweat it too much, it wouldn't be the first time that things changed. The possibility of new gods were expressly disavowed until there they were. The whole shape of the lands were transformed when the Bronze Doors was brought in.
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Did a term every get made for the dome of rock about be the date me level. I've always called it the vault.
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Did a term every get made for the dome of rock about be the date me level. I've always called it the vault.
:surrender: I have no idea what you are talking about.
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He is clearly looking for the name of a massif (bluff, prominence, cliff, etc.) feature. Unclear is what the "date me level" refers to.
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Perhaps referring to the Stone Face or cave on Oja2?
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What is the rock that the crystal hangs from. And the water. And the cold air.
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It's my understanding that the great crystal extends all the way to the surface. The weather is just a natural thing with the size of the cavern, much like large hangers can have weather events on the inside.
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Yes but what is the name of the rock?
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Yes but what is the name of the rock?
The Dome?
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"The roof of a cavern?"
http://www.planeshift.it/Settings
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If it's about the nature of the rock I have no idea. As for the roof itself... I've always supposed people would just call it 'the sky' (well most likely the common tongue has its dedicated own word for it). It's not like they would have any other type of 'sky' to compare it with, except maybe in old tales.
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Just to get it more specific: "Yliakum" is only the world inside the stalactite, and most inhabitants may not know (for certain) that there is something outside, and even the stalactite appears only as one possible theory to them? In this case it may not be a big surprise that they may not have a very common name for "the cave surrounding Yliakum". Not to mention even "the planet around the cave", beyond the Stone Labyrinth leading to its surface.
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Next question.
What textiles are there? I can figure there are various leathers. I think there is something like a wool. Are there any plant textiles?
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You will probably assume that all characters wear textiles when they don't wear other armor. More or less except Kran. Robes will be textiles too.
But if they are made rather of wool or cotton, even a kind of flax (couchgrass)... ???
I fear botanic has left us already. ;D
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Next question.
What textiles are there? I can figure there are various leathers. I think there is something like a wool. Are there any plant textiles?
For sure there are leather, wool (kormi wool) and silk (from arangma silk); there will be more in the future I think :)
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I think I've heard references to satin and linen... But I don't think it was anything official.
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Need another detail.
What would be an summer festival in ojaveda?
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http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34729.msg399171#msg399171
Unodin Celebration, Jaycol has written some very descriptive & poetic text on this seasonal celebrations of the farmers and rustic folk. We did an event in 2009 in Oja, which is the link above.
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alas too recent. i'm working in the time period when the octarchs first came to power. so it predates the arrival of dakru and xiosia.
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A few thoughts, and forgive me I am still sipping on my coffee... If we can take a look at the traditions in general and the study of religions, you would find that a celebration like Unodin, might actually predate the current God/desses, and that these celebrations are more about the seasonal changes. Without the fertility of the land the people would starve, and so maybe they did not worship Xiosia in ancient times, but you can be assured that they celebrated the coming of warmer weather as it is a sign of life and prosperity. Although there may be no mention of it it any lore, I am sure they honored Talad or Laanx, (or the older God/esses they brought with them from their homes) for this annual rebirth, and speculating this from a historian approach, looking at the current traditions, you would most likely find that pastorals of Oja and the outer villages were doing their fertility rites for the Gods. I have no reference here to any written text just a suggestion of its probability. I am hoping Jaycol will see this thread as well, he has a nice grasp on the lore & religions of the realm (maybe search his threads or send him a pm?). I mostly make stuff up on the fly with whatever IG knowledge I can find, and throw in some touches of ancientDermorian brews, without going to far, for a bit of flare, as I believe we are evolving as a people and so shall our beliefs and interpretations of the ancient stories, especially as we have all been in the great melting dome together for some time now, but I am not sure what your writing project is about. Are you writing as a character from the past? Or as a character from the present writing about that past?
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characters from the past in the past.