PlaneShift
Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Volki on January 01, 2015, 04:24:54 pm
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Technically, you seem to be right:
Wikipedia: Gadolinium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadolinium) (Gd, #64)
But I believe that chances to be exposed to it are very low. I guess there are a lot more probable causes of poisoning...
NO PANIC
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Medication having side effects is nothing new. Weighing possible benefits and risks is always difficult. Die next month because the radiologist couldn't see the aneurism without contrast or have possible problems in a few years? Life itself is a risk, so I fully agree: Don't freak out. :)
On a sidenote, why do you make such a mystery about it? It's all published. (At least the abstract. Fulltext requires subscription by your local university.)
http://pubs.rsna.org/doi/abs/10.1148/radiol.13131669
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[Chatter about bad things being put in your body]
Ever heard of barium?
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Barrium... I wonder how that might enter the body.
Aaaaannnnnyyy way...
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Barrium... I wonder how that might enter the body.
Aaaaannnnnyyy way...
Either ingested or injected. It's a white, dusty liquid. Somehow. I've been told, I don't know. But gadolinium is radiactive...
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lulz
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They make you drink barium when imaging things like your upper gastro intestinal track... it's nasty, thick, chalky stuff by the way. Worse part is that they keep making you drink the stuff even after you are quite sure you can't keep it down. -_-
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Well, sucks for the people. Negative selection for those, just improves the gene pool of those remaining.
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On a sidenote, why do you make such a mystery about it? It's all published. (At least the abstract. Fulltext requires subscription by your local university.)
http://pubs.rsna.org/doi/abs/10.1148/radiol.13131669
Doesn't prove anything at all as correlation does not equate causation, this complete business looks more and more like homeopathy to me. Irrational fear of a few who don't understand modern medicine, just like those idiots who refuse vaccination.
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Helmeted centipedes arrived here via frozen comets from the depths of space ages ago. They are stupidly wise, eat metal, and prefer names like Doretta and Cornelius.
kek
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You're seriously going there, Rigwyn? ;D
The facts are simple. Volki is offering unsolicited medical advice, which, as he's no physician, is not only stupid but outright dangerous. Scaring people with cries of big corporate conspiracies to sell their precious Gadolinium on the back of the small man is lunacy. By all means, he did not even present evidence. So right now, this looks like yet another looney thread which no one should take serious, with Volki's reaction proving it's probably more about trolling people into not getting the diagnostics done they might urgently need.
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My dig was more about the rampant misquoting. As for medical technology, I don't know crap about it, so I'm staying out of this one.
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Big corporate asshattery is no conspiracy theory it is well established fact. Pharmaceutical companies regularly promote their wares for off-label -- read unapproved -- uses. They extend their patent profits by a process of incremental claim registration and tweaking formulation molecule by molecule.
This conversation is helping nobody except the terminally bored and even they are barely interested.
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It still does not change that your claims are unsubstantiated and are going against common medical practice. Contrast is often necessary to better diagnose a patient, and currently it seems that Gadolinium is the safest option. There's lots of physicians who say anything, what matters is the scientific consensus. You are clearly not establishing any facts towards that, so your claims are little more substantiated than those of bogus warnings and cures and should be ignored.
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Right, right. They should probably scan my head, of course they shouldn't lack on the contrast :D