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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Roled on April 07, 2015, 06:23:42 am

Title: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Roled on April 07, 2015, 06:23:42 am
Roled's wish is to remove the marriage button from all the avatars.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: CheatCat on April 07, 2015, 01:37:14 pm
I cannot more than agree you with that. The marriage button is annoying. There are more useful button that can be used, for example: add to group, add to friend list or perform custom emote. I bet the most people do any of that more than marry everyone.

EDIT: I did not read between the lines. This does not seem to be a discussion about removing the marriage button but rather about who you can marry or not. I did not wanted to take a part of this discussion or be one who support one or another side of this discussion.

The only point of my message is about the marriage button from an usage perspective, e.g. how often you would use that said button. The /marry command or having the marriage option in a sub menu sounds like viable options. Now I know how to solve my problem so I am satisfied, thanks!
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Demagul Riwe on April 07, 2015, 06:05:52 pm
While the button may or may not have had use in the past, I know that currently, the PS community doesn't need it. I agree with CheatCat, that there are buttons that would be much more useful in its place. Plus, removing it is the simplest and most obvious solution to the same-sex marriage debates that are going on on the forums and irc.

EDIT: Fixed the wording of a sentence that doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Wocib on April 07, 2015, 06:37:51 pm
As I'm pacifist... would it be possible to remove the attack button ? please Devs advise  :love:

[edited to  add a smiley]
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Jilerel on April 07, 2015, 09:20:15 pm
Not for the ideological reason : The marriage button is just annoying. Sometimes I want to be quick and see someone's description, ending in asking in marriage the person.

Well I'm not so good in aiming...
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Volki on April 07, 2015, 11:33:57 pm
I'd prefer it be replaced with a group invite button.
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Talad on April 08, 2015, 01:28:08 am
You can easily remove the button yourself, edit planeshift\trunk\data\gui\interact.xml

and remove this part:

<widget name="ButtonMarriage" factory="pawsButton" id="1900" tooltip="Marry">
  <frame x="128" y="64" width="64" height="64" />
  <bgimage resource="ButtonMarriage" />
</widget>

You can do the same with other buttons if you want, you can also change the position and order.

Be sure to backup the file before making changes in case you edit it wrongly.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Volki on April 08, 2015, 01:59:54 am
That's actually... really helpful.
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Roled on April 08, 2015, 03:22:12 am
Talad, thank you for your quick response. It has helped me clarify two things about my wish list wish.

First, thanks for this:

You can easily remove the button yourself, edit planeshift\trunk\data\gui\interact.xml

and remove this part:

<widget name="ButtonMarriage" factory="pawsButton" id="1900" tooltip="Marry">
  <frame x="128" y="64" width="64" height="64" />
  <bgimage resource="ButtonMarriage" />
</widget>

You can do the same with other buttons if you want, you can also change the position and order."

Be sure to backup the file before making changes in case you edit it wrongly.

Enjoy!

It's great to know that removing the button is relatively easy to do. So the obstacle is not a coding impossibility.

Second, it points out my reason to ask for the button itself to be removed from the entire game mechanics , which I should have more clearly stated. The reason is not for an individual option: that for individual players has always existed- don't use it if you don't want to. It is not a question of having the "right" but choosing not to use that right.

The reason behind my wish is that this particular universal coding, which is OOC, excludes some avatars ICly. Some character/citizens do not have the same "rights" as others.

Those who wish to use the right to marriage ICly who happen to play same-sex couples are excluded by the OOC coding. Those female characters who wish ICly not to be automatically re-named with the male "husband" character's last name, as if they were property, are forced to by the OOC coding system.  ICly, kran are excluded from marriage entirely by the OOC coding, as if marriage were a relationship based solely on the ability to reproduce via zygotes rather than free-will partnership.   

I believe the mechanics cast a forced exclusion of certain types of characters to the detriment of character immersion and IC role play. So it seems to me that either the button should entitle all characters ig to marry at will, or none to marry through the use of a mechanics button rather than IC rp.

Thanks for letting me clarify the reason I (and others) wish this feature to be removed from the entire game.

Sincerely,
RR
Title: Re: Remove the mechanics marriage button
Post by: Volki on April 08, 2015, 07:54:24 am
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Those female characters who wish ICly not to be automatically re-named with the male "husband" character's last name, as if they were property, are forced to by the OOC coding system.

Second this (minus the property part, I don't think that's the purpose of taking a husband's name). Renaming gives you a whole new chat log, probably other files as well, which is an annoyance. There's also the fact that taking a husband's surname isn't something that is practiced everywhere and was definitely not practiced by all cultures throughout history. Most of the women I knew growing up refused to lose their names because they had reputations.