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Title: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: baridin on May 15, 2015, 12:58:12 pm
hi all,

I find that reading the in-game books, like the 'working with stocks' one is really annoying in-game.
Is there any way to extract their text so I can read them out-of-game in a text editor?
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Minks on May 15, 2015, 01:04:59 pm
Are you aware of the /study command? The text is much easier to read and even a search function is included.

Before that was implemented, I used to type the books into a text editor or extract the text with wireshark. To be honest, both methods are about equally tedius. 
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Bonifarzia on May 15, 2015, 02:33:35 pm
That's a feature that is a bit problematic in the sense that details of game rules and settings,  or books written by other players are not meant to be easily accessible to the public. At least as far as I understood. But maybe there are some modifications around that can do this *shrug*.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: baridin on May 15, 2015, 03:48:32 pm
Are you aware of the /study command? The text is much easier to read and even a search function is included.
I wasn't ....  \\o// that's definately a much, much better interface for reading the books
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: cdmoreland on May 15, 2015, 05:43:38 pm
Even with the /study command it can be hard to understand. Don't be afraid to ask for help with crafting in gossip or even in main if you can keep it IC.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Shatterkiss on May 15, 2015, 06:20:15 pm
I use Wireshark to capture the info.  Essentially, start recording with Wireshark and then open the book.  Once it's open stop the recording and take a look at the udp stream.  There will be some junk data, but the text of the book will be in there.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Donari Tyndale on May 15, 2015, 08:10:16 pm
I use Wireshark to capture the info.  Essentially, start recording with Wireshark and then open the book.  Once it's open stop the recording and take a look at the udp stream.  There will be some junk data, but the text of the book will be in there.
Isn't that against the rules?
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Shatterkiss on May 15, 2015, 10:31:39 pm
I use Wireshark to capture the info.  Essentially, start recording with Wireshark and then open the book.  Once it's open stop the recording and take a look at the udp stream.  There will be some junk data, but the text of the book will be in there.
Isn't that against the rules?

I certainly hope not.  I'm not changing the information being sent in either direction, and looking at the packets doesn't reveal any information that isn't available to players who simple open the books. 
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Donari Tyndale on May 15, 2015, 11:08:59 pm
To quote the rules thread.

[...]

Hacking

[...]

You will not attempt to interfere with, hack into, or decipher any transmissions to or from the servers running Planeshift.

[...]
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Gilrond on May 16, 2015, 12:34:43 am
It's not against the rules. Reading your own network traffic is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Donari Tyndale on May 16, 2015, 01:04:22 pm
Since when are you an expert on GM issues? Sure looks like "hacking into transmissions from the server" to me.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: verden on May 16, 2015, 03:39:00 pm
Our word for the day apparently is… tedium.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: cdmoreland on May 16, 2015, 03:56:23 pm
Our word for the day apparently is… tedium.
:thumbup:
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Alvero on May 16, 2015, 04:19:33 pm
Tedium  :sorcerer:

Alvero Alenciar, stabbed shadowcaster and overworked book writter.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Roled on May 17, 2015, 12:31:11 am
or perhaps "inconsistency"?

Those who are allowed are allowed inconsistency, those who aren't aren't?  ::)
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: verden on May 17, 2015, 12:46:48 am
Nope, its still tedium.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Gilrond on May 17, 2015, 03:53:37 am
Since when are you an expert on GM issues? Sure looks like "hacking into transmissions from the server" to me.

Since it's traffic coming to you. You are not hacking into anything. If you claim you can't read your own traffic it's some kind of police state your are talking about.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Roled on May 17, 2015, 04:31:30 am
What's a police state Gilrond?
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Rigwyn on May 17, 2015, 07:10:12 am

I'm sure it sounded just dandy to whoever wrote it xD

You know, this sort of thing happens when a non-technical person gets the task of writing these things and the tech folks don't really care enough to read what they wrote and correct it.
Title: Re: Extracting the book text for out-of-game reading
Post by: Gilrond on May 17, 2015, 08:34:57 am
What's a police state Gilrond?

Like Oceania in 1984 ;)