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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Geoni on June 11, 2015, 06:11:36 pm

Title: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on June 11, 2015, 06:11:36 pm
So after returning from a very long absence I forgot most of the lore of the game and had to use the PSwiki and the books in the in-game library to refresh myself on lore knowledge, but a lot of this gets specific and is heavy on reading, so I was wondering if it'd be okay to do one of two things:

-Create a basic but all encompasing lore guide that highlights the most important things your character should know about his/her/kras world by default

or

-Add Jayose's books to the PS wiki as its own little project?

I know that this might harm the no-spoiler rule the forum has, especially the latter idea, but would something like the first idea be okay either? No quest information/solutions would be posted, I would only suggest that further lore tidbits be discovered through questing.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Demagul Riwe on June 11, 2015, 06:15:12 pm
Actually, there is something like that. There's the setting overview, race overview, and history overview all on the main site.

Setting overview:
http://www.planeshift.it/Settings

Races:
http://www.planeshift.it/Races

History
http://www.planeshift.it/History
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on June 11, 2015, 06:29:00 pm
I've looked at the races and history pages but never navigated my way to that settings link, huh. (Edit: it was just collapsed there on the main page, silly me). It's got a decent amount on there too, although I think there might need to be more geographical information included - there's actually a lot that has already been established but it's a large amount of information - the dome has a lot of sectors, cities, and geographical features that might be important to know. And then there are a number of other cities on the other levels.

Then again maybe I want to see a lore compilation not just for new players but for all players - something in depth that can be referred to through a browser since you can't take Jayose's books with you.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: cdmoreland on June 11, 2015, 07:31:50 pm
More in the different libraries; Jayose, Stonehead, Levrus, and Broken Door Tavern.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Rigwyn on June 11, 2015, 09:47:32 pm
On the same topic, it would help if we had some sort of timeline that shows a consolidated view of the race histories. I might draft this up submit it if i have time.

I'm interested to see what the ruling is on geoni's question.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Tuathanach on June 12, 2015, 11:34:16 am
-Create a basic but all encompasing lore guide that highlights the most important things your character should know about his/her/kras world by default
I personally do not see harm in someone preparing this if they have the spare time to do so. Would be good to have more knowledge of the races and gods.

On the same topic, it would help if we had some sort of timeline that shows a consolidated view of the race histories. I might draft this up submit it if i have time.
I would also like to see this but again falls down to someone having time. IIRC there are some conflicts in timelines, which will need highlighted and resolved.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Eonwind on June 14, 2015, 12:07:48 pm
We also have a Player's Guide! http://planeshift.top-ix.it/pswiki/index.php?title=Players_Guide (http://planeshift.top-ix.it/pswiki/index.php?title=Players_Guide) maybe it could ba a good place to start a project like this! Like Tuathanach said time is limited but if any of you is willing to start a project like this please contact us in IRC!
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Zunna on June 14, 2015, 03:43:58 pm
Nice project idea Geoni !  :thumbup:
When the Creature page has been remade recently on PSWiki, they added a list of ingame books related to creatures in the bottom of the page. I found it very nice; it could be done for each of the pages and linked to the actual book text then. We shouldn't forget that the informations that the books displays are IC and that having so much books ingame and nowhere else is a particulary of this game too.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on June 15, 2015, 06:11:25 am
Well in regards to the books, do any of you on the team know if they're created in game or somebody had the documents copied from their own computer that they could copypaste to the wiki? Other wise this is a heck of a lot of time if it's typing it all out. Like, I'd so some of the most important ones just for myself and my own reference, but there's a decent amount in game.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Rigwyn on June 15, 2015, 06:14:39 am
I think if you read a book ( open it) in the game, the text of it gets dumped into the log file. I'm not sure about this, but I think it's worth a try. I can't test this right now.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on June 15, 2015, 06:30:13 am
I'm not sure if the command works, because I tried that and I searched the heck out of my planeshift program files afterwards.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Eonwind on June 15, 2015, 11:14:55 am
Well in regards to the books, do any of you on the team know if they're created in game or somebody had the documents copied from their own computer that they could copypaste to the wiki? Other wise this is a heck of a lot of time if it's typing it all out. Like, I'd so some of the most important ones just for myself and my own reference, but there's a decent amount in game.

Yes there is the possibility to copy and paste the content right away, so non need to spend dayes and night just to type  ;)
We also have a developers wiki where all the settings book can be referred.
Some times ago we have been speaking about the possibility make some (but not all) books available outside of game as a reference for players to be able to know important settings information ahead. My suggestion is to contact Venalan and Mordaan so maybe you could work out together a list of books to make available in an off-game Jayose Library in the wiki or in the main website.
I think it's a much need project!  :D
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Venalan on June 15, 2015, 07:36:22 pm
All the devs seemed to like the idea at the time, we just didn't get around to it. I'm all for putting important settings books on the wiki/main site for players to have reference too. I'll try and have a chat to Mordaan over the next couple of days about books we think would help a player get started playing a character In Character in PlaneShift.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Cairn on June 15, 2015, 08:37:21 pm
http://sempetorps.webs.com/apps/blog/

until it gets compended and such.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on June 15, 2015, 11:41:13 pm
Uuugh, wish that copypasting could actually work for me though. Might be something to bugtrack or something.

All the devs seemed to like the idea at the time, we just didn't get around to it. I'm all for putting important settings books on the wiki/main site for players to have reference too. I'll try and have a chat to Mordaan over the next couple of days about books we think would help a player get started playing a character In Character in PlaneShift.

If I'm to pitch in on what I think is most important, it's the 'meet the vigesimi' books because it's all I've been able to find on where things are on the dome, which is where all characters are and are RPing. I'd even suggest making a more organized 'these are the sectors and what's in them' book from what's here already. Then there's a book in the tradition section that talks about all coupling traditions for all the races, which is a good overview to have. If I'm remembering correctly, in the creatures/animals/whatever that's called section there's a particular book or two that lists a good number of them with small summaries for each. And then every single book in the races and religions sections you've got. The rest, such as history and job/skills stuff, isn't as important imo, especially since none of our characters have actually lived through that history. I mean, it's good stuff to know in terms of things being passed down, but not essential.

http://sempetorps.webs.com/apps/blog/

until it gets compended and such.

yaaaas

Thank you!
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Cairn on June 16, 2015, 01:12:54 am
 You're welcome :)

You can poke about on the site also. Some of the hyperlinks are dead, but most of it I've managed to salvage. It's more than just a good starting spot if you're looking for something.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Venalan on November 19, 2017, 08:38:45 pm
I'm on a book mission right now. Once I've finished off the 3 books I've planned to approve to night ill get into picking essential books to place on the wiki.
Title: Re: Project (If Approvable?): A basic guide to the lore of Yliakum for new players
Post by: Geoni on November 20, 2017, 07:26:06 am
omg so I forgot that I ever made this thread in my brief attempt to get back into PS in 2015 and started screenshotting all the books in Jayose's library for my own reference upon return in 2017. Aaaand I forgot the blog that Cairn linked me earlier in the thread. So I spent hours for nothing as it turns out.  :'(

I didn't even finish half of the library though so there's that. I might, on a personal level, screenshot-archive knowledge seeker books and the books in the other three libraries for myself unless that's also considered essential?

Nevertheless, good to see this revisited.