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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Caldazar on June 18, 2003, 08:14:57 pm
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Im buying my very own computer for the first time after the summer, and I was wondering if anyone know of free, or very cheap OS that is compatible with most programs and games. Basically a cheap windows (yeah right, like thats ever going to happen..).
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oh great! another OS war!! :P
well, the closest you\'ll get to a free, stable OS is either linux or freeBSD. but in both don\'t expect to play every game you can get in win* ...PS, vendetta and other games are linux-native, and there\'s tons of ports, also there\'s the win* game emulator, but you\'ll still lack a few games. but if you look for a great, stable, nice looking (check some screenshots!!), highly configurable free OS, then linux could be the OS of your choice
...also PS runs better in linux :] ...no really, since you compile it from source, it\'s really fast (comparing to the (win*) precompile version!)
about other programs support: well, you don\'t usually run natively some apps (M$Office, Photoshop, Maya...) but there are either great open-source alternatives (OpenOffice.org (or even CrossOverOffice which 100% supports M$Office), theGIMP, blender...), ports (photoshop has an older port), or you can run them in an win* emulator ...let\'s just say that i haven\'t used windows in more then a year and i don\'t lack anything :]
check http://www.happypenguin.org for latest news on linux-native games
and http://www.transgaming.com for latest news on the win* gaming emulator and a full (=large!!) list of games it supports
for gentoo (my distribution of linux) check: http://www.gentoo.org
for a very simple to install distribution (mandrake) check: http://www.mandrake.org (or .com)
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A quick question: I always thought that you had to know everything about coding, jam etc. to be able to use Linux.. is this true?
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Not true at all, some linux distros are very easy to install and maintain (think windows, but simplified). I\'ve seen people who doesn\'t know what a scroll wheel is (on a mouse) install linux, so that shouldn\'t be a problem.
Also, JAM isn\'t mainstream at all, make is however.
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pardon me for being n00bish but, is it free?
Oh, and about transgaming, does it support betagames like frozen throne, WoW etc.?
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Yes, it\'s free :p
http://www.mandrake.com
http://www.redhat.com
http://www.debian.org
http://www.slackware.org
http://www.gentoo.org
are some normal distro\'s for home and office.
On the transgaming question: You quite simply just have to try, wine and winex aren\'t \"game-specific\", so just about any game might work, i think all the games that i play work in wine/winex (half-life+mods, GTA 3, GTA 3: vice city, morrowind, battlefield)
http://www.winehq.org and http://www.transgaming.com have each their own compatability list, look there first, might have some helpful pointers
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well, i do know a little bit about hacking some code, but i don\'t need to ...i use gentoo and the typical way of installing someting in gentoo is
emerge the_name_of_your_app
and that\'s it ...you wait untill it (and everything else it needs) is compiled, and happy using :)
...was a slackware user for around 4 and a half years before that,
linux is free, so are most distros (=different flavours of linux), there are also some commercial distros, but they\'re not better in anything
you might want to check out http://www.linux.com and http://www.linux.org (=different sites!!) for some basic info on linux and http://www.distrowatch.com for some (very) basic info on different ditributions (=distros, flavours) of linux
if i were you i\'d check out mandrake and gentoo as i already said.
about these games you mentioned ...the best way is to go to transgaming\'s site and search for info on the games there ...btw, they work on a user-demand system. there\'s a monthly (or weekly, or whatever) poll that asks you which technology, game etc. you would like to see work next ...and in these they put the most effort
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i\'ve totally fallen in love with apt, don\'t have enough time to use emerge, i need that time to play games :p
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Ok, it has been decided.
*drumroll*
If I buy a new computer, I will use Linux, and perhaps install WinXP Pro aswell. You can run Linux and Win* on the same compunter right?
If I buy a used computer, I will use the OS that is on it.. hold your breath, until next episode of Caldazars Tales of Interest!
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yea, no problem with that ...it only gets \"a bit\" tricky to make dual-boot work if you have different OSs on different drives ...so buy a PC with only one big disk and then particionise it
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Thats what I was going to do. :)
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Originally posted by Caldazar
Thats what I was going to do. :)
just making sure ...we have a few guys on gentoo forums that complain that they can\'t get dual-boot on different disks
well, don\'t forget to drop a line here, when you get the PC and when you finally decide which distro you\'ll use
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Well, What An Interesting Topic! Now I Can Flame About How Much LINUX Rox! Planeshift Works Like Crap On Windows Machines. I Tried It On My 32mb 768 MHz Celeron With 300mb Ram And Windows 2000 Professional. This Is A No Brainer... If You Want Stability, Customizability, Lack Of Crashes Or Cash Payments, Go To Linux. But If You Like Paying A Stinky Dork Named Bill Gates, Be My Guest.
Here\'s My Linux Machine\'s Setup:
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VIA 1.7 GHZ Pentium 4
512MB RAM
40X CD-RW
12X DVD-ROM
Geforce 2 MX/MX 400 Pci (64MB)
Redhat Linux 9 (Intel i386) Kernel Build 2.4.20-19.8
Nvidia Kernel & Glx 4363 (RPM)
VIA 8233x Sound (ALSA)
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Hmm... while we are on the subject of my computer.. Do you think this computer is worth 7900 swedish crowns? 1$ (US) is about 8.5 swedish crowns.
P4 1.9 Ghz
512 mb Pc800 Rambus
60 gb Ibm 7200
Asus Moderkort i845 chipset
Asus Geforce4 4400 Titanium 128mb Deluxe
Soundblaster Audigy Ljudkort
Intel 10/100
P4 Midi chassi
Creative 4.1 speakers
52x Cdrom
Sony 12/10/48 cd-burner
Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical
Standard keyboard
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And Soon You Will Talk Like Linuxknight, Starting Every Word With A Capital, Talk About A Superior OS!
;)
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just about still ...more then 1000? would be a terrible rip-off (maybe even 1000? is a bit high)
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Actually.. the price is about 8000?. So you dont think I should buy it?
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Originally posted by Caldazar
Actually.. the price is about 8000?. So you dont think I should buy it?
are you sure you\'re telling the right prize? i mean 8000? is more then 8000$ you know? ...i would never ever pay that much for a desktop PC ...maybe for a supercomputer to save mankind from aids :)
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That is way too much money! I could get a dedicated t3 line for 1 month with 32 statis ips or more and a new server with dual cpus for 8 grand. Don\'t buy that pc, or you will lose a lot of money. Money doesn\'t grow on trees. If you have that much money, get a learning pc that you can tamper with, and put LINUX on!! Then save the rest of the money for a LINUX Engineer\'s Degree!.
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hook wrote:
Are you sure you\'re telling the right prize? i mean 8000? is more then 8000$ you know? ...i would never ever pay that much for a desktop PC
I don\'t quite understand where this $8,000 came from.
7,900 swedish crowns at a conversion rate of $1 US = 0.85 comes to a figure of US$ 929 (roughly).
Thats seems a bit more reasonable ;)
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Humm... I apologize, it was early, or very late. I was having a terrible hangover and I really felt like shit. My maths werent very accurate, and I also think I added one 0 to much :D .. anyways, I think Im going to buy it.
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Its amazing first time I see so many people in a games forum talk about the greatness of linux ...
Bless you guys ... I also wanted to add ... If you are actually looking into programming and other computer related stuff. Linux is the best there is .. Because of its open source nature you will not only find the least used programming languages on it but you will also find the big mainstream programming languages such as C and Java... Just to mention even M$ languages are featured on web servers such as ASP ( ACTIVE SERVER PAGES) Although I love the flexability and stability of linux .
I also love the gaming world of windowz... Many people mention Bill gates as the source of all evil ... Well I don\'t . If it wasn\'t for him .. You guys wouldn\'t be on linux ...
Please note since you can get linux for free ( if you can download the whole thing) there is a very weak help area on it ..
So if your new I would ask you to keep a few of those 8000 and buy a linux Red hat distro. with the RHN on it ...
If you need any help we ( the linux family :P) will be happy to help ...
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well, if Gates wasn\'t evil the linux community wouldn\'t be as big as it is ...so he\'s evil :]
free linux distros and bad help? ...just check out the gentoo forums http://forums.gentoo.org ...if this isn\'t one of the best (and nicest) help forums ever to exist i\'ll eat a broomstick!!
RH never worked for me (tried it once or twice), being an ex-slacker and current enthusiastic gentooist.
not intended to be a flame!!!