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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Jedi on July 13, 2003, 08:05:16 pm
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Heh, as you\'ve no doubt ascertained from the title, this thread is about CONSOLE GAMING! YAY! *Does a jig*
Well...ummm...ya. So start talking. :D
I\'m into it all the way and after years of devoted gaming I would have to say that Nintendo is obviously the king. Second-place would be Sony. Third would be...uh...Sega. And from fourth to sencond last would be any company that has ever made a video game platform of any kind. Last would be Microsoft. :,
I really think Planeshift should launch for the consoles. That would be cool. I know it would cost money, but it\'d still be awsome.
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isorder by what you think they should be? cuz the facts are that its sony on top, then micro, then losing nintendo.....
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It reminds me \"Probotector\", one of my first games on Nintendo.
It was a great Action 2D game... *sigh*
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hahaha Noncomercials are for PC only! And i think Planeshift will be to complex for consoles.
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I made the list in order of quality, my good man. ;)
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well (at least to my knowledge) since PS is ever evolving, and Console games are unupgradable, wouldn\'t you just buy the game, and never be able to play the new zones that are added later?? And if the new stuff was added in add-ons to the game, it would cost a whole lot more... and besides, the game is supposed to be free, so no PS for consoles...
I have all nintendo consoles except the newest (gamecube), but It\'s been a looooooong time since I used one of them last...
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I\'m not saying the game has to be out on this generation of consoles. By the time the game is done the next gens will be launched and it could come out on one of those. All of the next gens will have a hard-drive so you could download all the newest stuff and save it on that. Somthing like how the Xbox works. You can download game patches and extra levels and stuff.
It could work. Trust me.
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your strange mate \"Nintendo The King\" not any more the game cube is being out selled by both X-Box and PS2 in all magor countries and the gamecube is almost dead in the UK the only reason its still there is becasue it had a strong launch. the Gamecube lacks any DVD functionality except for that version released in Japan only. The magority of good games on the gamecube are cross platform which means there on every console and considering the X-box could run them better any way just makes it worse for nintendo. There is nintendos small range of exclusive titles to hang on to but compared to both the X-Box and the PS2 this is a very small range.
Nintendo WAS the king but now sony\'s grabbed the title the queen is microsoft (I know you don\'t seem to like these guys mostly becasue no one does casue there rich bums but there still have the second best console the facts prove it) and the joker is gamecube maybe nintendo will redeem itself with the next console but its seemed all but down hill for them since the late years of the 64 + they just soled Rare there best game producer to microsoft so you can wave a nice long wave to the return of rares classics perfect dark and Jet force geminin and conker becasue there not coming back
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Yeah... I really loved the games Rare made for nintendo.. especially donkey kong... *becomes nostalgic* oh, those were great days indeed :) :P
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Hmmm...Where to start. I guess I\'ll go for the most obvious points.
1. The best games on the GCN are not multiplatform. You must be confusing this with Xbox, whose first party games suckand whose third party games are on at least one other system. You will not find Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Rogue Leader, RS III: Rebel Strike, etc. on any other console, so that moots your first point.
2. Rare. Not the company they once were. Unless you haven\'t heard, over half the original development left Rare to stay with Nintendo when they joined M$. The original Goldeneye team has broken off to create the Nintendo second-party Zoonami and the rest join Nintendo directly.
3. I agree that the lack of DVD functionality has a crippling effect on the GCN\'s worth, but you must also remember that it is selling for a sizably lower retail.
4. Sony is only on top because (A) they launched a full year ahead of the competition and (B) they had a large fan base from the PS1, due again to Nintendo being the second out the door with their N64 launch. The Xbox is selling on its power and do-everything features. These are good,but they drive console prices up. (Yes it is true that M$ is taking a financial loss on every console sold.)
5. The Next Gen systems will have a much tighter race as Nintendo is scheduled to launch their console (Official Codename N5) first, Sony\'s will have their Do-absolutely-everything CELL powered PS3 out at a disgustingly high retail, and the Xbox 2 will only have Halo 2 to show for it.
It\'s gonna be a rough road, but Nintendo will not fall. Mark my words.
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You cant argue with this: All of the games that you remember, all the games that gives you chills, were made for Nintendo. Mario, Zelda, Fox, Samus. The only character that I took to my heart that isn\'t made by Nintendo is Sonic. And all his games are available on the Cube.
But, I have to agree, Gamecube sucks, and, IMHO, so does PS 2. Xbox has the power, the best control, and, most of the cool games. The fact that it has a harddrive doesnt make it less attractive :)
Edit: *runs of to play SoM*
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I gree that SexBox is th emost powerful, but that\'s about it. All of my favourite games are on Nintendo so ya. PLus the Xbox was about $700 when it launched so, no. *shakes head*
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gamecube will be the overall best in the end, so many old school remakes of snes games are being made this year, microsoft has no videogame experience.
Nintendo has so much experience, every game released is near perfect.
the fact is nintendo never really was \'the king\', but people that played since nes know where the quality games are, if you truly injoy games you play a gc ;)
and people that havent played all those games, have hundreds of hours of gameplay waiting for them, if there interested.
you can even download emulators to play them on your computer now
I prefer my mmo\'s on pc though =)
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True gamers mate play whatever they want not a game cube. True gamers play quality games on whatever system they have to play them on.
And i do like X-boxes games better then GC and PS2 mainly because microsoft (even though I don\'t like supporting microsoft if I can get away with it) has down a fine job of making a console with pc type games and console type games both the ps2 and the GC have failed to do this not including games like red faction which was multiplatform, also Microsoft and PS2 have more game developers developing for them then GC oh and one more thing Nintendo is still marketing more to the younger generation then to the older generation which is hampering its sales seeing most gamers are over 18
Oh and i\'m not a X-box junkie nor a PS2 junkie or a GC one either(oviously) I\'m just a PC gamer who reads all the charts and those mulitplatform magazines as well as living on http://www.ign.com scoouring through all the games oh and the best shooter is coming out on PC this year Half Life 2 best of e3 its the game with the best graphics the best gameplay http://www.planethalflife.com go here and download the super high half life 2 video and see for yourselfs just how good it is although be warned is 500+ download and it goes for 25mins oh yeh its also coming to X-box and no other console casue no other console has the power to run it although the PC version will still be better cause HL1 best feature i reckon was its modability and HL2 meant to be even more modable :D
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Originally posted by kyp14
True gamers mate play whatever they want not a game cube. True gamers play quality games on whatever system they have to play them on.
What if they want to play GC? Are they not \'true gamers\'?
And i do like X-boxes games better then GC and PS2 mainly because microsoft (even though I don\'t like supporting microsoft if I can get away with it) has down a fine job of making a console with pc type games and console type games both the ps2 and the GC have failed to do this not including games like red faction which was multiplatform, also Microsoft and PS2 have more game developers developing for them then GC
Since when has the lack of third-party support ever hurt the big N? Nintendo is their own best developer. Ever notice how the officil Nintendo games are the most polished? You\'ll never find a glitch in them anywhere. That shows not only how professional they are, but alsohow devoted they are to their gamers.
oh and one more thing Nintendo is still marketing more to the younger generation then to the older generation which is hampering its sales seeing most gamers are over 18
If you didn\'t know the majority of GCN owners are approximately 30 years old. And another thing, just because Nintendo includes the younger generation in their marketing scheme does not mean they aim towards them. I can easily name at least thirty good M- and T-rated games that are either out or are coming out.
Oh and i\'m not a X-box junkie nor a PS2 junkie or a GC one either(oviously) I\'m just a PC gamer who reads all the charts and those mulitplatform magazines as well as living on http://www.ign.com scoouring through all the games oh and the best shooter is coming out on PC this year Half Life 2 best of e3 its the game with the best graphics the best gameplay http://www.planethalflife.com go here and download the super high half life 2 video and see for yourselfs just how good it is although be warned is 500+ download and it goes for 25mins oh yeh its also coming to X-box and no other console casue no other console has the power to run it although the PC version will still be better cause HL1 best feature i reckon was its modability and HL2 meant to be even more modable :D
I am forced to agree with you on Half-Life 2 as that game indisputably owns. However, it is not Xbox exclusive and, as you said, it\'ll be better on PC, so I have no reason to like Xbox for it. It is simply a bonus for the console owners. Nintendo has many bonuses that caneasily outweigh whatever M$ throws its money away on.
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Originally posted by Xalthar
well (at least to my knowledge) since PS is ever evolving, and Console games are unupgradable, wouldn\'t you just buy the game, and never be able to play the new zones that are added later?? And if the new stuff was added in add-ons to the game, it would cost a whole lot more... and besides, the game is supposed to be free, so no PS for consoles...
Well they are suppose to be upgradable .. thats why all these ppl (SONY, XBOX) are releasing hard drives... Thats what I\'ve heard long time ago .. Even saw the PS2 hard drive .. Looks like a mini-PS2 ...
But Jedi I don\'t agree with the idea of havin PS on a console ... Just ain\'t right ... Don\'t think you\'ll enjoy it much ... How would you type ? a Keyboard .. Wel you have a keyboard on your pc so why take it to a console .....
T.C.
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Each and every cosole has a keyboard controller out.
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I am forced to agree with you on Half-Life 2 as that game indisputably owns. However, it is not Xbox exclusive and, as you said, it\'ll be better on PC, so I have no reason to like Xbox for it. It is simply a bonus for the console owners. Nintendo has many bonuses that caneasily outweigh whatever M$ throws its money away on.
Well Jedi ... You must agree that the XBOX came in a flash and was not anticipated by anyone.. When Nintendo thought of waitting until PS2 was released what they tried to do was to beat sonys spec\'s so they have a Hardware advantage... But MS slaughtered Big \'N\' in their own game .. They released a 733mhz CPu while Big \'N\' had a something like 400mhz .. can\'t remmber ..
Well I also used to be a nintendo lover but after that I didn\'t want to give my money to a very weak system compared to xbox ..
When you buy an GC you wonder what games will be made and will those great PC games with great graphics be on it .. But when you buy a xbox ... you say to yourself .. Know I can play so and so ....
Its a jungle out there in the gaming world .. And unfortuantly it has only one Law .. Survival of the fittest ...
T.C.
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ok ok, hasnt anyone heard that i think after thier next console if it does poorly again that they are getting out of the console development and only making thier game boys...... but that wont be good either cuz Sony is coming out with the psp , playstaion portible, i think its called that...... and it will feature a much wider screen, full 3d graphics, and everything better then what nintendo has out..... its gonna be cooler too with the real tiny disks! Its gonna be like a portible playstation 1
also sony with its new chip the cell, is said to be like 1000x (or was it 100) better then what it has now so anything is gonna get blown away even if nintendo does come out earlier
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There is only one system that a LOT of people buy solely for the exclusive games for that system and that is anything made by Nintendo. Zelda and Mario are the main selling points of every Nintendo system. You may find higher quality and more features elsewhere, but you won\'t find Luigi. :o)
I don\'t play console games anymore, except to give the kids a little bit of help sometimes, but that\'s because I have beaten both of the Zeldas and Mario for my N64. I for one am hoping to get a GameCube this summer, so I can kick some more Nintendo exclusive butt.
Well, that\'s my two cents worth...
m.
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Originally posted by eL_Qadsawi
Well they are suppose to be upgradable .. thats why all these ppl (SONY, XBOX) are releasing hard drives... Thats what I\'ve heard long time ago .. Even saw the PS2 hard drive .. Looks like a mini-PS2 ...
T.C.
No, all releases in such games are given through expansions that are only for the given platform... An example is morrowind on Xbox... they just recently got their GotY edition to add the two expansions..
furthermore, I don\'t believe any destributors would ever consider publishing a free mmorpg...
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Btw check this site for a good comparison of the three consoles:
http://www.xboxcity.com/Console/Specs.asp
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Hmmm...of course you go to an Xbox site to get info on the other systems.:P
Technical specs are all well and good, but you fail to see that there are only two things that matter in a console. Max number of polygons onscreen, and the games. Even if the polygon limit is low the games can be made in such a way that you won\'t notice. Look at the PS2.
Besides, in the next-generation, the graphics will not be a problem. Of course, everbody\'s gonna be harping on them, but when it comes down to it, are you actually caring about your system specs in the middle of gameplay? I didn\'t think so. The deciding factor in the next-gen race will be the games and the features. Hopefully Nintendo won\'t be caught with their pants down this time and give some extras. They\'ve already got the game end in the bag with Too Human and \'Game Zero\'.
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in My opinion, i think that sony is loosing its grip, and this \"PS3\" my take longer then expected...anyway:
ps2 is the most outdated, as in release, and it doesn\'t have alot of good ps2 exclusive games, and nintendo\\sega...now, ppl may be wondering why i say nintendo\\sega, think of it as this way, why would SONIC be ONLY for GAMECUBE??? in other words, mario and sonic are buds, and, i recently played halo, and its just as good as metriod...Prime
so i think that the best are both GC and X-Box, as they are BOTH the best, even though some ppl may not want to accept this.
on a side note: every nintendo exclusive game is so well done that, as said before in this topic, there is literly no glithces in thier games...except metriod prime, becuase you can get power bomb expansions before you get the power bomb (no, really!), and many other things like that.
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Sony is loosing their grip in terms of gaming. Their next console will do so many things you almost forget that it plays games too. Plus, it looks like they\'re serious with their 1000x faster jargon so expect the price to make a Toyota Celica look cheap.
The Xbox 2 is doing that as well, though to a lesser degree.
As of yet I don\'t know Nintendo\'s plans for the N5, but I\'m hoping it\'ll at least have DVD support.
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I\'m not really into console stuff, but i just found this recently.
Don\'t know if you\'ve heard about the Phantom? It\'s a new console that hasn\'t been released yet. I think they are currently beta-testing the thing.
It\'s made up of pc parts (they\'ve got the Intel logo on their site), they say it will be the best console ever (some grain of salt added here).
It is connected to the internet via broadband internet i believe. You can download demos on the thing from the internet before buying the game. It also supports pc games i believe. Haven\'t really looked at it indepth yet. I\'m not really an expert on console territory but it looks pretty ok.
The real presentation to the public will be on the 15th of august this year.
check it out:
http://www.infiniumlabs.com/
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Uh huh. You know what the Phantom is? Exactly that. a phantom. It was supposed to be a this years e3, but it was nowhere tobe found.
There has been one interview with the company and I must say the Phantom is quite fake. The interview consisited of long questions and one or two word answers. No the way to get publicity.
Trust me it\'s fake. And even if it\'s not, Infinium Labs is stupid to launch it in the middle of a generation. Look what happened to the Dreamcast (third best system ever). No one will buy it because, if they\'re going to get a console, they already have.
Big hoax.
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hehe, well like i said, not really my territory all that console stuff. :baby:
I\'ll just stick to my pc\'s then. ;)
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That\'s your safest bet, unless you want to play good games like Metroid Prime or Pikmin.*does a jig* Go Pikmin!
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Wether or not it\'s fake, you have to admit that.
Kinda reminds me of the Caminoins from SW Ep. II
Certainly seems possible, but I know one very trustworthy Canadian company that kept it\'s ppl (that is it\'s community) in the dark for almost three years. *cough*Relic*cough* But they came through, and some day I have have Homeworld II, an awesome 3d real-time-strategy game
(the original homeworld was pretty good, btw, check it out it\'s cheap now)
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well this is an interesting discussion I find it amusing that Jedi seems threatened enough to pull apart my 10cents and come up with a excuse to everything he doesn\'t like but i\'m not surprised at all If I were a console gamer yes i\'d get a X-box cause I prefer its game (multiplayer Halo anyone my freind made it into nationals Australia for playing Halo if he goes good there he goes to south Korea for the finals)and the whole X-Box live thing (64 player halo and RTCW oh yeh)
but my point here is if I like games like Halo (XBOX), Grand Theft Auto(PS2), Brute Force(XBOX), GTA Vice city,
Jak and Daxter(PS2) etc etc ( I would go on naming all my favorite games from PS2 and XBOX but that wouldn\'t get to my point.) And the only game I would want of GC is rouge squadran 3 then thats me ok you shouldn\'t feel threatened by the games I like and the consoles I prefer if you like GC then I respect your an Advid nintendo fan who enjoys there games out of all the other game companys in the world (not like that retard GC player at out school who like the GC the best because it apprantley has better graphics then the X-Box ?( ) and I naturally enjoy more PC-like console games like Halo and Brute-Force being a PC gamer and all and you shouldn\'t bother trrying to tell me otherwise cause it won\'t work