PlaneShift
Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Caldazar on August 07, 2003, 09:51:43 pm
-
Alright, this thread is dedicated to the book Wheel of time, and all the books that came after it.
Post all your thoughts etc. here. But please, remember that some countries doesnt have CoT yet. Like Sweden X(
-
Haven\'t read them yet... I\'ve just started with the Sword of Truth series, so probably won\'t be getting to reading WoT for a (long!) while...
-
*Coughs* So maybe I\'m brining a thread back to life. Will it really impact your life, whether real or forumning?
Anyway... There is a WoT site at http://www.wotmania.com . I myself came up with a theory that cuellindar does the opposite of what balefire does. Heartstone (cuellindar, for you non-WoT readers just dying to flame me) holds a thread in place for eternity. Balefire burns threads away, hearstone keeps them in place, or so my theory goes.
According to wotmania.com , the 11th book\'s title is Knife of Dreams.
When do you suppose that Perrin will encounter Elayne, Nyneave, and/or Egwene in Tel\'Aran\'Rhiod? He did encounter Birgeete, I believe, in The Shadow Rising. I suppose sometime after his rescue of Faile. If they do encounter each other, it would probably be a hilarious moment...
Who killed Asmodean? The question that has been consuming all WoT readers. My answer - don\'t laugh - is Voldemort. I am sure that old Voldie got tired of waiting for the 5th Harry Potter book to come out a few years back, or the fourth, and decided to vent his rage on a random person, who just happened to be Asmodean. Seriously, I think it\'s a gholam.
-
meh, personally I\'m losing a little faith in the man behind the myth. book five sucked donkey, and the most recent one wasn\'t worth fifty cents let alone cover price. I might read the next one if I hear good things, but otherwise I\'m going to skip the end of the story.
-
Crossroads of Twilight\'s main fault was that it spent too little time on Rand. I myself enjoyed the story, as it caught up with what the other main characters did so that readers wouldn\'t be confused. The fact that I was anticipating the fact that Rand wouldn\'t be mentioned that often (by checking reviews) allowed me to not be upset with Rand\'s relatively low profile.
-
WoT is, I think, a very good story that has been dragged out way too much. I am currently halfway through the 10th book and going at a very slow pace...a chapter every two weeks or something :( , compared to when I first started the series when I was reading a whole book in 2-3 weeks :] After the fifth or sixth book, (cant remember anymore, too many) they just became really boring with only a few good exciting or even interesting parts. I really hope Jordan will bring it to a good ending with the last book. Personally, I dont think the series should have taken more than 7 books...
-
My opinion? It\'s too goddam long. You can\'t stretch something out for these thousands upon thousands of pages. It doesn\'t work that way.
-
Ha, I thought this thread was gonna be about the War on Terror. :-)
-
Heh, just started on \"The Path of Daggers\" yesterday. I finish a book about every 4-5 days. *loves reading, clearly* Too much hair-tossing and sniffing and foot-stomping, but I keep reading. Gods know why. Yes, it\'s horribly stretched out, but I want to know what happens, so I continue. Granted, Jordan is a master of facial expressions and body language, but sometimes enough is enough. There are parts when the characters no longer seem human - everything is too controlled, and the reader can\'t relate anymore to the personas. I also don\'t like how too many characters are idealized, physically. Either someone is beautiful, or handsome, or has the eyes of a star sapphire, or silky black raven hair, etc., etc. Not enough realism there, for me.
Someone mentioned the Sword of Truth series earlier here... It has more good books in the series than WoT, but they still fail in the end, especially that last one. So as long as you keep in mind that good things always deteriorate, it\'s a nice read ;P
-
it\'s not the length of the books that\'s the problem, it\'s that he isnt\' getting ANYWHERE in the storyline, when he spends three pages describing what dress Egwene is going to wear, it\'s getting a little redundant.
he has more than enough material to cover a good number of books, but he keeps going nowhere.
Honestly, I think the man is afraid to continue. maybe he\'s just wanting to stretch it into enough books to last him well into retirement and keep him and his family well to do their entire lives. and the wait between books definitely isn\'t worth the anticipation. we waited what, two, three years for nine to come out, and it wasn\'t very good, 10 was rubbish, and it was a good long wait itself. this series has been in publication since I was like 12 or something. It was great in the beginning, but now, I\'m sick of it all
-
Personally I love long books.
I read pretty fast ( nowhere near as fast as my girlfriend though) and i find that even casually reading a book(2-3 hundred pages) I finish it in about two to three days (half a day if i am really into it) I feel cheated if i can finish the book in 1/625 of the time i spent waiting on it.
(same with video games for that matter)
-
I can agree that CoT is a little \"slow\", but I\'m still waiting for the second part (every book is in two parts in Sweden). Hopefully, there won\'t be as much focus on Faile, since I find her quite dull.
Also, the books have gotten \"slower\" the longer the story went on.. nothing happens it seems. Let\'s hope he will finish it before he dies :O
-
There will be another 2 prequils written before the last 2(or 3 maybe) books. He has also written the ending, so no, he\'s not dragging it out, he\'s writing it as it should be.
Yes, I\'m a loyal WoT fan :D I like all the books. The 10th book had to be written to fill in all the missing bits, so I don\'t find it a bad book at all. If u read the boks properly, book 10 fills in lots of missing holes, as do the prequils. It also helps that I\'m a very fast reader, so I don\'t get bored by the length. I can read a book in around 1-2 days if I\'m bored.
As for the killer of Asmodean... heh, Robert Jordan has already given us the answer, so he\'s not going to be telling us in any of the next books. Work it out for yourself (read the books again). :D *tip \'And death took him\' Now who was called \'death\'...... ;)*
And balefire.... doesn\'t make sense. If you kill someone with balefire, you wipe them out of time (the stronger the blast, the further back). But if u do this to a person, they would have never have been in the place to be balefired, so they would not have been killed....
Atm, I\'m reading A Song of Ice and Fire until the 2nd WoT prequil arrives. A brilliant saga if any of you are looking for summin to read. :)
-
Robert Jordan stated explicitly in an interview that Moridin did NOT murder Asmodean. He takes his characters far too seriously to use a silly pun like that (quoted from the interview to the extent of my memory).
Oh, and Robert Jordan is a pseudonym (found in another interview at wotmania.com ). And the author of the WoT was a nuclear engineer before he wrote the books, just to throw that out at you...
RJ plans to end the series at around 12 books (not including prequels and including exisiting books). This number does not take into account the splitting of the existing books into smaller chunks. Again, info from the interview(s)...
-
Balefire makes perfect sence if you read the book thoroughly. the precifice of the WoT series is that time is a tapestry. every life, every object in exsistance is a thread on the tapestry. Balefire burns a tread out of the tapestry. if it\'s more powerful, it burns the thread back further up the weave. this wouldn\'t work under a more traditional view that time just \"is\". but with the WoT beliefs, it is possible. think of it this way, the thread existed in this reality, you burn it and it dissapears, you burn it away, and reality has to shift itself around that fact. events shift, and it seems almost like he was here but he wasn\'t at the same time. you have ghost images of his once existing. that\'s really all that\'s happening.
-
lol, I didn\'t say it was Moridin. :P But it was related to it. :D Like I said \'death took him\', not killed him ;)
Yeah, I suppose if u see it like that, then yeah, balefire does make sense.
-
hehe, I\'m not a fan of the series now, that don\'t mean I never was, up through book four I was an avid reader, probably reread them fifteen or sixteen times. I lost a lot of faith in book five, I mean, I had so much trouble getting through it that I just skipped it halfway through, when I read book six, it felt as if I hadn\'t missed anything. nothing seemed out of place.... and THAT is a bad thing. there should have been a sence of misplacement. the characters should have been doing something completely new.
-
Yes, thats pretty much how I felt too. I also have been thinking, Robert Jordan is kinda making up everything as he goes, you can tell. I mean of corse he makes it up as he goes, but he doesn\'t plan it out very well. Think about it, some of the earlier books were full of...some concept, but in later books, they are almost forgotten. Does anyone remember the Eye of the World? It has nothing to do with any later books...no continuation of the concept. How bout Trollocks? Are there any Trollocks in the latest books? Even Tel\'aran\'rhiel isnt very important anymore. I have noticed that Robert Jordan creates these great ideas, but then he moves on to another idea and his older concepts have little or no relevence in the rest of the story. I miss those first books\' concepts and ideas. The later books are filled with boring politics...