PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Schwatzkeen on August 27, 2003, 12:08:21 am

Title: Planeshift Etiquette?
Post by: Schwatzkeen on August 27, 2003, 12:08:21 am

Hi,

yesterday I logged onto the Planeshift server to take a first look at it. First impression was a discussion about \'n00bs\' I thought I\'ve left behind in the DAoC (spell: s u b s t a n d a r d) social interaction.

So tell me: is it normal to insult unknown players as \'n00bs\' (which is an insult in my opinion)? Not that I was insulted but some other guy. If this is the normal player interaction, Planeshift will be like a freeware platform for all those ridiculous DAoC-Kids unable to interact in a human manor...

Title:
Post by: lostprophet on August 27, 2003, 12:11:22 am

I haven\'t noticed that, most of the players I met when I was new were happy to help with my childish queries.

Title:
Post by: Half_Pint on August 27, 2003, 12:30:00 am

I don\'t think what you saw was a very accurate portrayal of Planeshift behaviour.  Most of the players are all too happy to help newbies learn what they can and can\'t do at the moment.  This is not all that common of an occurrence.   :)

Title:
Post by: lostprophet on August 27, 2003, 12:31:12 am

Yeah, what he said.

Title:
Post by: Grakrim on August 27, 2003, 12:37:15 am

Quote

Originally posted by Schwatzkeen
Hi,

yesterday I logged onto the Planeshift server to take a first look at it. First impression was a discussion about \'n00bs\' I thought I\'ve left behind in the DAoC (spell: s u b s t a n d a r d) social interaction.

So tell me: is it normal to insult unknown players as \'n00bs\' (which is an insult in my opinion)? Not that I was insulted but some other guy. If this is the normal player interaction, Planeshift will be like a freeware platform for all those ridiculous DAoC-Kids unable to interact in a human manor...

Err, sorry about that, it was probably me...

I\'m normally quite helpful with newbs (but the \"n00b\" is another thing entirely), I don\'t remember the nature of the disscussion, but it was something exceedingly annoying, I\'m sure.

You have nothing to worry about, Schwatzkeen, if you act respectfully, you\'ll get respect in return, at least with all the regulars that I know.  I\'m extremely sorry if I discouraged you from playing PS in anyway.

Sorry again,
Grakrim

Title:
Post by: lostprophet on August 27, 2003, 12:39:46 am

What\'s the difference between a newb and a n00b? Is one rarer or only found in inner cities or something?

Title:
Post by: Half_Pint on August 27, 2003, 12:42:26 am

n00b is ruder.  No one wants to be a n00b, but I dont think they mind being a newb.  Anyway, I usually say newbie.  ;(

Title:
Post by: lostprophet on August 27, 2003, 12:44:55 am

I still don\'t understand the difference. He made it sound like they were different levels of newness.

Title:
Post by: Grakrim on August 27, 2003, 01:02:18 am

Quote

Originally posted by lostprophet
I still don\'t understand the difference. He made it sound like they were different levels of newness.

When I say n00b, I mean it as an insult, its as simple as that.  I consider a n00b to be a new player that\'s disruptive to play.  I\'ve seen several examples of n00bs, which some of you regulars may remember.  For example, a number of weeks back (or months even), I remember one such case where one a n00b shouted some thing (I don\'t remember what precisely) repeatly for a good 15 minutes... Acraig eventually came in and took action; this was a serious case, but a good example of the behavior I consider n00bish.

When I say newb, I mean no insult, and I have yet to find a person (in my over 10 years of online game playing experience) to take offense to that particular term.

Title:
Post by: Drilixer on August 27, 2003, 03:21:41 am

ROFL - yeah - anytimes you thrown in numbers and symbols in the place of leters or add in \'jooo\' to words at random... you are acting the part of an elitist-nOOb flamer

Title:
Post by: Kiern on August 27, 2003, 04:20:51 am

n00b eh?  that has always bothered me, there are plenty of disruptive older players, I don\'t see why new ones deserve to be called anything else.

so, as a result, I call everyone newbies

now go away, newbies...see? it works

Title:
Post by: Drilixer on August 27, 2003, 04:26:28 am

Quote

Originally posted by Kiern
n00b eh?  that has always bothered me, there are plenty of disruptive older players, I don\'t see why new ones deserve to be called anything else.

so, as a result, I call everyone newbies

now go away, newbies...see? it works

diplomacy at it\'s finest... about as reasonable as the French representatives to the UN...

Title:
Post by: (-GF-) Kenny on August 27, 2003, 08:47:08 am

I think words need to be replaced like:

n00b to newbie
Fuck to F*ck (i had an other word in my mind like human contact or something)
Nigger to Black Person
Asshole to Brown Hole ;)
Dick to D*ck (i had an other word in my mind but i forgot it again)
Pussy to Pussy couse it can mean your a pussy/weeny

Cmon peeps help me out ;)
Here comes a list again :P

Title:
Post by: Moogie on August 27, 2003, 06:05:52 pm

Uh... what on earth are you talking about Kenny?

Title:
Post by: Kithplana on August 27, 2003, 06:21:51 pm

I think Kenny ran headfirst into the chat filter. *plays an animation running headfirst smack into a brick wall marked Chat Filter*

Title:
Post by: Monketh on August 27, 2003, 07:31:13 pm

Every once in a while, (1-2 months) A random Newbie will be mislead diliberately.  Remember Waterdeep anyone?  But this is casual and no harm is intended.  (Besides, after a while someone tells him it was a joke to see his reaction, which is usually mild.)

Title:
Post by: hook on August 27, 2003, 08:02:23 pm

well ...here\'s my point of view on this matter:
noobie=newbi(e)=newby=noob=newb=n00b=|\\|0o|3=...

only making writing it in \"l337speak\" (or n00bspeak) makes it seem more stupid ...that\'s all.

but the true difference is in the way the word(s) is implied.
nice acconotation example: \"hey, you\'re a noobie, aren\'t you? <^_^>\"
bad acconotation example: \"fsck off you stupid noob!!\"

..see, it\'s all in the way of how you use it :]

...but in most cases in PS if you\'re marked or addressed as a noobie (et simili), it just means that people noticed you\'re new around here ...that\'s all ...most of us are really nice and helpful to noobies ...that\'s how (supprisingly and thankfully) PS works :) ...but you have to take into account that there\'s always a few who aren\'t nice (and usually are noobies themselves :rolleyes:), and that we all are just humans, so we all have bad days sometimes.

welcome to PS though, and enjoy your stay :]

Title:
Post by: Wedge on August 27, 2003, 09:09:13 pm

I\'m sure there are other places like this, but I just remember seeing it here.  They\'ve got this in the glossary of the America\'s Army help files:

Newbie - Generally, this is a new player  

n00b -  Derogatory slang for a player that does something stupid, often repeatedly, and who may be a new player

Title:
Post by: Caelinthaas on August 27, 2003, 09:30:01 pm

I\'ve yet to run in to anyone who\'s been rude, or disrespectful; everyone has been quite helpful and fairly mature.  However, as a completely free platform, I fully expect that there will be quite a few noobs and griefers around once a more playable version is released.  These doorknobs have nothing invested in the game, and thus, nothing to lose when banned.  I\'m not particularily worried about it, I\'m just mentioning what is probably obvious to most, and that is: be prepared ;)

Khatheer

Title:
Post by: Kiern on August 27, 2003, 10:21:12 pm

There are plenty of people like that right now...their just in hiding...

**Grabs Alucard\'s shotgun** anyone wanna step up?


...no, just kidding, I use it on anyone, no being biased here

Title:
Post by: seperot on August 28, 2003, 12:06:59 am

wwater deep haha yep that was my idea there :P

\"goto waterdeep and find the mage bartender we will sned you on a quest noce you fnish it you will be able to cast magic\"

hehe