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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Wolfmane on September 12, 2003, 08:55:01 pm

Title: Comparative Guilds Survey - Now Public
Post by: Wolfmane on September 12, 2003, 08:55:01 pm: The Comparative Guilds Survey (CGS) (http://www.freewebs.com/illyria/GuildsSurvey/CGS%5FIframe.htm) has at long last come so far as to be made public. This survey compares some of the Guilds of the World of Yliakum created by active members of the Planeshift Community.

The purpose of this survey is to provide a quick and easy overview of the existing \"guild-landscape\" in Planeshift. As such it is meant to assist both existing members of the PS community, and newcomers to the gaming experience that is Planeshift. This survey is by now means complete and does not cover all guilds.

This is due to the fluid nature of the guild-landscape in the Planeshift Community. There are new guilds and older guilds. Some of the newer ones are very active and growing, others have not yet gotten out of their starting blocks. Some older guilds are steeped in tradition, have developed good and strong relations within the guild and are recruiting very selectively. On the not so bright side there are older guilds have stagnated and/or have become inactive and many new guilds fail within a rather short timespan. There is a kind of natural selection taking place weeding out the untenable guilds and leaving the viable ones with committed and enthusiastic members to dominate the landscape.

As a first step this survey has included 10 existing guilds in its comparison (one has unfortunately become defunct so 9 for the moment). It is a subjective selection and in no way reflects which guilds are the oldest, strongest, best established or best functioning. Rather these 10 have been chosen exactly because they, in the view of the authors, represent a spread of the variety of guilds that do exist in Planeshift. We have selected both old and new guilds, ones with more than 30 members and ones with less than 10. There are specialized guilds and general guilds, ones that are bound by a common interest in a craft, trade or profession and ones that have a common crede amongst members only.

The aim of this launch of the survey including these 10 guilds only is to set in motion a process by which we provide a template of the information we require and the format in which we require it so that all other active guilds can submit their data to us. The survey will thus be expanded to the extend that other guilds respond by submitting their information to us in the format required. This is also a good way of finding which guilds are actually active and which not.

In conclusion this survey cannot, and does not claim to, answer all the question that someone trying to get to know the guild-landscape might have. Rather this survey is intended to provide an overview, like a road map, of which guilds there are and how they compare. It will be up to the individual gamer to contact the guild, speak to its members and assess for him/herself the quality of the guild in question and his or her own compatibility with it.

Prosperous gaming, and may the best guilds survive!
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Post by: seperot on September 12, 2003, 09:32:38 pm: well done wolf very good stuff
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Post by: Nanuke on September 12, 2003, 09:35:05 pm: cool, but what about me? :(
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Post by: Monketh on September 12, 2003, 09:42:47 pm: Excellent. :)

(We\'re meeting today to discuss our goals exactly, so we\'ll probably ask to be included by the end of the weekend.)
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Post by: Isgrimnur on September 12, 2003, 10:00:49 pm: Nice one Wolf, good to see the survey in the public domain.

I urge all active guilds that want including in the survey to contact wolf as I believe that this will be a very impostant document in helping players find the right guild for them.
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Post by: Xordan on September 12, 2003, 10:19:43 pm: Yar, totally brilliant. The best guild survey thingy I seen yet. :D :D :D
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Post by: Wolfmane on September 12, 2003, 10:58:17 pm: Thank you for the positive replies so far. Any other guilds that would like to be included are welcome to submit their data, in the format of the survey, to me at e-mail:
wolfmane_ps@hotmail.com

Please allow about one week from submission until your guild would be added to the survey. Any questions or suggestions may also be mailed there or PM me her in PS Forum.
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Post by: Yann on September 12, 2003, 11:34:46 pm: Finally ! This is great, Wolfie ! Congratulations !

*claps loudly
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Post by: Xalthar on September 12, 2003, 11:37:11 pm: Pretty darned good work Wolf :D :tup: gives you an excellent overview of the guilds!! :tup:
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Post by: Evanchild on September 13, 2003, 12:16:25 am: i would like to be on this. but im to damned lazy to fill out any forms.
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Post by: Sabrewulf on September 13, 2003, 12:21:48 am: Extremely good job :)
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Post by: Tranor on September 13, 2003, 01:47:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Evanchild
i would like to be on this. but im to damned lazy to fill out any forms.

hehe *grins* I am too!
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Post by: Drilixer on September 13, 2003, 01:52:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Evanchild
i would like to be on this. but im to damned lazy to fill out any forms.

a guild leader\'s famous last words :D

Good job Wolfmane!
Title: Update:
Post by: Wolfmane on September 15, 2003, 08:22:48 am: Update 15/09/03

All guilds who submit their data will have it added in the ongoing survey. Updates will be posted here with dates for inclusion added:

14/09/03 :
Mirth Guild has submitted their data and has been included in the GCS result to replace another guild that has become inoperative.
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Post by: Caldazar on September 15, 2003, 06:08:19 pm: Its not like Im bumping or anything... just saying that it looks good ;)
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Post by: Moogie on September 16, 2003, 12:11:53 am: I signed the guestbook but how on earth do I read it? It just says \'refresh the page\' but I see nothing... :(
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Post by: seperot on September 16, 2003, 12:18:59 am: jeh im wondering that too

**serches under rock** nope not there
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Post by: Zephyrus on September 16, 2003, 04:27:43 pm: It uses frames... Check your browser can handle them
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Post by: Wolfmane on September 16, 2003, 08:25:04 pm: Thank you Moogie and Seperot for bringing that to my attention. It would seem the problem might be that I used a pop-up for the guestbook whick means you can\'t refresh it, duuuhh :P

I am almost done with moving the Survey to a Danish Server as that one allows too little space for the survey to grow. Also the new server has a lot more functionality so the guestbook function will be improved there.

I will try to make it happen very quickly and post both the new url and update on guestbook function here.

[EDIT: 17/09/03
The guestbook is now fully operational!
Furthermore the site has been duplicated onto the new server, for now it is still experimental so the old url and site remains the official one for now. However, should anyone be interested to help test the new one please do so and let me know if you find any bugs. In fact you should NOT be able to find any difference :D

The new URL (http://yliakumchronic.friserverplads.dk/CGS/CGSDK_Iframe.htm) is for testing only.

Thank you for all the positive remarks in the Guestbook. Moogie, I will try to get the cache suggestion implemented asap, thx for that.
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Title: Black Order Guild
Post by: Annah on September 18, 2003, 09:03:33 pm: \"Here is an alphabetical list of guilds that are presumed to be active but either have not gotten around, or do not wish, to submit their data for inclusion in the survey.\"
... hehe. First of all I want to say that is really a cool thing ... and I am happy that you\'ve got the point Wolfmane ... Black Order won\'t play PS until it will be hmm ... more playable ... or we will wait for the final version. :P
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Post by: Drilixer on September 19, 2003, 03:10:54 am: most people arnt playing PS until it is more \'playable\'. That should not stop you from submitting your data though Annah.
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Post by: Havena on September 24, 2003, 05:42:51 pm: Fantastic work wolfmane. You\'ve given the guild leaders one more thing to do when any restructuring is done to their guilds, but the effort is the least we owe you for all your work in providing such an integral service.

Thank you :))
Title: Update
Post by: Wolfmane on September 29, 2003, 12:09:31 pm: Hi again everyone, here is the latest update:

29/09/03
Defenders Guild has been added to the Survey.

I have been \"out of action\" due to illness but hopefully back on the ball again now. Thanks once again for the extra positive feed-back. I\'ll post updates and/or changes here as they become relevant.
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Post by: Draklar on September 30, 2003, 05:01:41 pm: ahh good to be here :)
thanks for adding us, Wolfmane :)
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Post by: Wolfmane on October 07, 2003, 11:44:52 pm: Thx Draklar, we will hopefully get a submission from Rangers guild soon and I hope some of the other guilds and the new guilds will follow suit too.