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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Kuiper7986 on September 30, 2003, 02:40:00 am
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It\'s only a movie, thank goodness not a game, here\'s a screenie though. I\'m sure you already know who this is.
(http://www.suteki-square.com/fusionphp/uploads/ff7-21.jpg)
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Wonder how long it took them to get the hair right? :D
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I\'ve always hated FF... still do :P
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*SHOCK*
FF7 was the best FF. Had amazing storyline.
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Another FF-movie? Neat. The Spirits within had amazing grapgics :D
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Originally posted by Caldazar
Another FF-movie? Neat. The Spirits within had amazing grapgics :D
Yeah but a poor story (compared to FF7) and i still don\'t like the graphics: there are perfectly done but simply too dark and not so nice as a cinematic from a FF-game.
Xalthar: jeh i don\'t like dark :D
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Hmm.. I cant seem to find an url for it. No link at Squaresoft, and Finalfantasy.com doesn\'t work.
Gimme!
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keep away from it, cal, it\'s poison! crappy made poison, but still... :P:P
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http://www.suteki-square.com/fusionphp/fullnews.php?id=61
(http://www.suteki-square.com/fusionphp/uploads/ff7-22.jpg)
(http://www.suteki-square.com/fusionphp/uploads/ff72logo.jpg)
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BRILLIANT.
The movie of the best RPG ever. :)
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sephiroth looks too micheal jacksony in that pic for me, he shouyld be prettier imho.
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Originally posted by Silverx
BRILLIANT.
The movie of the best RPG ever. :)
make that \"worst\" and we hardcore RPG\'ers (don\'t think there are many here :rolleyes: :P) might be inclined to agree with you...
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Bah the FF are just good if you want a really easy game with a nice story and stunnig graphics. Of course it is too simple to be a real challenge.
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Out of the rpgs ive played (probably about 18ish in total, more than most) id say ff7 ranks up there with the best, it was one of the best created worlds in rpg history, with very gripping characters, if somewhat of a snakey plot and lacking certain something in gameplay like all ff but without a doubt in my opinion the most gripping rpg ive played =)
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Yup, I have to agree. It\'s one of the best games I\'ve played, and I\'ve played alot. 8)
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Let me hear some of the points (other than a catching story, because just about all rpg\'s I\'ve played have had that) then...
IMO, FF sucks, because it has so little rpg gaming... It\'s just run around, solve some moronic puzzles, do combat in the most ugly way I\'ve ever seen, and carry swords four times your own size... It might just be me, but I don\'t think that stuff makes more than a parody..
*cough* lame! *cough*
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BAH, lol. Well I enjoyed it when I was 10. :D
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The term RPG get\'s tacked onto everything, when most really are RWG\'s, especially on the console. It\'s just a matter of a tradeoff between emergent and scripted gameplay, except it\'s existed in that genre for a long time, whereas it\'s now just an issue in other types of games. FF VII is a revolutionary RWG, if only for it\'s cinematics and graphics, that brought the genre into the mainstream, which I don\'t think is a bad thing. But Chrono Trigger is still the best game ever.
Oh and about the movie, don\'t really care, overall the game had one of the worst casts in FF history. Well then again all the character casts on the Playstation have overall been marginal except the amazing cast of FF IX.
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Originally posted by Xordan
BAH, lol. Well I enjoyed it when I was 10. :D
And that was how long ago? :rolleyes:
no, seriously, I don\'t think the game has any of the values I like in a good rpg.. But still, that\'s only my oppinion (backed by many others, of that I have no doubt :rolleyes: ) :P
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Xalthar i must burn you.
as for sephiroths face GOOD GOD ITS HEDIOUSE
i liked the a have big eyes and im gonna kill ya not the i look like a sith lord and gonna kill ya :P
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Originally posted by seperot
Xalthar i must burn you.
as for sephiroths face GOOD GOD ITS HEDIOUSE
i liked the a have big eyes and im gonna kill ya not the i look like a sith lord and gonna kill ya :P
Your insane ramblings make no sense to me :D :P :P
And why burn me? for telling the truth? :P Ah... what a glorious society this community is turning out to be :] :P
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eh?
*shrugs then carrys on dumping petrol on xalthar*
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*sets himself on fire*
pffh... this is nothing...
*embraces Seperot*
perhaps the petrol will rub off on you :P
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i think seperot looks like the perfect goth here a perfect rolemodel for me i really adore him on that pict.
and in my opinion FF VI and VII are the best i can\'t decide between the two of them but the best rpg every is planeshift :) and zelda is a great rpg too
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Originally posted by dorbian
i think seperot looks like the perfect goth here a perfect rolemodel for me i really adore him on that pict.
and in my opinion FF VI and VII are the best i can\'t decide between the two of them but the best rpg every is planeshift :) and zelda is a great rpg too
*screeching of teeth*
I\'m not going to argue what defines rpg... I don\'t have the energy... :(
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im a long time RPG player and i have to say ff7 and ff8 are the best rpgs ever. I would love to see more about this ff7 movie
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Have you ever played any \"real\" Rpg\'s?
Final fantasy isn\'t exactly striving to get close to them, and therefore I would never call them Rpg\'s but rather Rwg\'s as wedge called them...
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Have you ever played any \"real\" Rpg\'s?
Yeah I have played the board game \"Life\" , but it just took too long. :P
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Originally posted by _Atticus
Have you ever played any \"real\" Rpg\'s?
Yeah I have played the board game \"Life\" , but it just took too long. :P
I could imagine so.. :P
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Originally posted by Wedge
But Chrono Trigger is still the best game ever.
Thank you! THANK YOU!!
I was worried that I was going to be the only person here who would say that, so thank you!
I was sooooooo hoping that they would make the next FF movie based on CT, and now I\'m really disappointed :(
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wow, ive always dreamed of a ff7 movie, i couldnt believe it was over when i beat the game.
Xalthan probly hasnt played final fantasy 7, and we all know he would probly crap his pants if he did
ff6 was epic as well, oh and i could so tell shadow was relms father before ff9 came out =)
i wasnt a fan of ff8, whered the fantasy world go? *ff9 comes out* ohhh there it is :D
oh so many epic moments the haters wont expierence.
i wish i hadent played all the classic snes/ps rpgs, there would be like a hundred hours of gameplay just waiting for me.
they can be hard, trust me! Boss\'s can be tuff, dungeons can be a pain
did anyone actully kill the emerald weapon? i beat the game without killing him, hes sooo hard
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Chrono Trigger and Breath of Fire. And not to be forgotten, A Link to the past.
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Originally posted by bbum
did anyone actully kill the emerald weapon? i beat the game without killing him, hes sooo hard
I\'ve killed him a couple of times. You need the Underwater materia to stop the 30 minute countdown, a few W-Summons for Knights of the Round, Quad summon with Neo Bahamut, Final Attack paired with Phoenix is always a good idea aswell. Once you know the attack patterns you can plan ahead... just make sure you have very high level characters and materia and you\'ll be okay.
I think it also depends a bit on luck... I beat Emerald twice, and the second time was alot harder as he seemed to use Air Tam more often.
(Note: The more materia you have equipped on a character, the more damage Air Tam Attack will do to him/her. So say you have 6 equipped: you\'ll receive 6666 damage.)
I can\'t wait to see this movie! Think the secret characters will be there? They wern\'t in the game FMVs, which was disappointing... but understandable. I\'d love to see Vincent with his claw and cape leaping around slashing at monsters and blowing their heads off with a Peacemaker. :)
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i played the us versions of 7-9 was there a ruby guy in the uk ver cause i only beat him once he was hard 8o
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Originally posted by bbum
Xalthan probly hasnt played final fantasy 7
Who\'s Xalthan?
Btw, I have played that lousy game... and it sucked even more than it\'s predecessors... and it seems that each and every person on this forum, but me, is a drooling ff geek...
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and it seems that each and every person on this forum, but me, is a drooling ff geek...
Yes, since this forum consists on the people, and only the people, that has posted in this thread :P
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Originally posted by Xalthar
IMO, FF sucks, because it has so little rpg gaming... It\'s just run around, solve some moronic puzzles, do combat in the most ugly way I\'ve ever seen, and carry swords four times your own size... It might just be me, but I don\'t think that stuff makes more than a parody..
*cough* lame! *cough*
I agree with both you and Wedge: FF isn\'t good if you look at it like a RPG (which its not.) Console RPGs are usually dumbed down (in terms of interface and mechanics) when compared to their P&P and Computer counterparts. This is mainly due to the slightly less hardcore audience of console players and the much less sophisticated input devices used (as opposed to a massive keyboard and mouse, which is also a reason console FPSs suck). As those of you with both a computer and a console probably know, some games work better on consoles and some work better on computers.
Now, did I enjoy FF7? Definatly, its a good game, just not a good RPG.
P.S.: What does RWG stand for? Role Working Game?
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look! final fantasy is all about computer geeks sitting in darkened rooms for hours on end, and if u cant see that xalthar then ull never understand. Carrying swords 4 times your size is part of the enjoyment, the combat wasnt great, but ive seen far worse, specially as at the time many rpgs were still pixelling in battles. Im not a \'huge\' fan of the other ff, but FF7 deserves recognition for being atmospheric and stylishm, and i cannot be arsed to argue anymore because ive had a long day and i dont give a rats ass about anyone elses opinions.
Ct was ok, was too straight forward, i spent most of the time thinkin hurry up, but ya BoF ruled! =)
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I don\'t see why the term \'RPG\' has to mean the Pen & Paper type. There\'s lots of different types of RPG. Final Fantasy is one type, Warcraft 3 is another.
Just because Pen & Paper RPGs came first, doesn\'t mean all other types of RPG suck.
At least, that\'s my opinion. :P
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Originally posted by Mogura
I don\'t see why the term \'RPG\' has to mean the Pen & Paper type. There\'s lots of different types of RPG. Final Fantasy is one type, Warcraft 3 is another.
Just because Pen & Paper RPGs came first, doesn\'t mean all other types of RPG suck.
At least, that\'s my opinion. :P
Well, you do have a point there. But all games could be labeled as a RPG. I mean, if you\'re playing Mario, you\'re playing the role of the short plumber in his quest to save the princess. So we have to define some boundries. Further more, many people divide the similar, nearly unrelated RPG genres; there are Action RPGs (Zelda), Console RPGs (FF), CRPGs (NWN, Baulder\'s Gate), etc, etc.
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Warcraft 3 is another.
How do you roleplay in W3? 8o
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As anyone here played Angband? That\'s a real RPG... even if the graphics are a bit poor... and it is quite unfinishable without cheating (can\'t save and after 25 play hours, i was only at half of the game)
Warcraft III a rpg? What about tuxracer? No seriously that\'s not because heroes can pick up scrolls and cast spell that the gamr is a rpg
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Originally posted by Mogura
I don\'t see why the term \'RPG\' has to mean the Pen & Paper type. There\'s lots of different types of RPG. Final Fantasy is one type, Warcraft 3 is another.
Just because Pen & Paper RPGs came first, doesn\'t mean all other types of RPG suck.
At least, that\'s my opinion. :P
I you look at it that way, all games are Rpg\'s... if you play a shoot\'em up game, you take on the role as the gun-wielding maniac that mutilates everything that moves..
if you play a strategy-game you take on the roll of commander, and do what the commander is supposed to do..
But by the term Rpg is meant something other than what FF mainly consists of.. if you don\'t know what Rpg\'s are, try searching the web, or look here (http://roleplaygames.about.com/)
Originally posted by Grakrim
I agree with both you and Wedge: FF isn\'t good if you look at it like a RPG (which its not.) Console RPGs are usually dumbed down (in terms of interface and mechanics) when compared to their P&P and Computer counterparts
Finally a person who understands me... :]
as opposed to a massive keyboard and mouse, which is also a reason console FPSs suck
Yep, also true..
Originally posted by KwartzTheKran
Carrying swords 4 times your size is part of the enjoyment
No, that just makes it more lame...
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Originally posted by elscouta
As anyone here played Angband? That\'s a real RPG... even if the graphics are a bit poor... and it is quite unfinishable without cheating (can\'t save and after 25 play hours, i was only at half of the game)
Angband... That\'s similar to Nethack (http://www.nethack.org), right? I\'ve never played Angband myself, but Nethack is good.
Another thing that\'s always confused me about FF is why \"sequels\" aren\'t related to each other in any way... With the exception of the \"Biggs and Wedge\" connection and the repeated appearance of the Moglie, of course. Same way with Zelda, although they are starting to connect the series, based on the storyline of Windwaker.
You do have to admit, though, materia was an interesting addition the combat system in FF7; much better than FFX\'s sphere grid. I hope that they revive the system in future FFs. Anyway, with all the new sequels coming out (FFX-2 and FFVII-2) I\'m hoping for FFV-2, I wants me some jobs! (which may be the sole reason I get FFXI, if I decide to get it at all)
Offtopic Meter: 80% and rising
\"She can\'t take much more, Cap\'n!\"
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Wheter or not you like FF, you should definatly read 8-bit Theatre (http://www.nuklearpower.com), a sprite comic based on the original Final Fantasy. Its hilarious!
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Originally posted by elscouta
As anyone here played Angband? That\'s a real RPG... even if the graphics are a bit poor... and it is quite unfinishable without cheating (can\'t save and after 25 play hours, i was only at half of the game)
Hmm, is that a mud?
because the best mud I\'ve ever played, and am still playing is Achaea (http://www.achaea.com)
3-400 players online at a time, and that\'s really great :D
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Originally posted by elscouta
As anyone here played Angband? That\'s a real RPG... even if the graphics are a bit poor... and it is quite unfinishable without cheating (can\'t save and after 25 play hours, i was only at half of the game)
Angband? the old commadore n speccy game? \'the graphics are a bit poor\' if i remember right it made pacman look like virtual reality. Classic game if ur on about what im thinking of =)
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people people please i have to ask who gives a damed
now ff7 is not a great rpg in terms of battles yes but the story line was griping so much its hard to turn away from it
now there are making a ff7-2 and god dammit im happy (even though sephiroth looks a bit weird but then again he did have the crap kicked out of him) now i whant this topic back to ff7-2 now or else im going to burn things and im only going to stop when i run out of fuel :P
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alright... back to FF... it\'s CRAP! :P
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the MOVIE!!!!!! :evil:
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Originally posted by seperot
the MOVIE!!!!!! :evil:
anything based on that crap, can\'t be anything else but crap... :P but since I haven\'t seen it, it might have a slight chance of rising beyond crap :P
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did you ever play it ALL THE WAY THOUGH? no i though not now shadup sit in the corner or im gonna have to pull out the power fist
**shakes fist at Xalthar**
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Originally posted by seperot
did you ever play it ALL THE WAY THOUGH? no i though not now shadup sit in the corner or im gonna have to pull out the power fist
**shakes fist at Xalthar**
So what if I didn\'t? An ending doesn\'t make a whole, you know... so if it was crap in the start, and good in the last little part of the game, the whole would still be crap...
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Originally posted by Xalthar
Originally posted by seperot
did you ever play it ALL THE WAY THOUGH? no i though not now shadup sit in the corner or im gonna have to pull out the power fist
**shakes fist at Xalthar**
So what if I didn\'t? An ending doesn\'t make a whole, you know... so if it was crap in the start, and good in the last little part of the game, the whole would still be crap...
ahem... \'\'tha\' don\' kno\' nowt sa si\'dawn n sha\'up!\'\'
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Though I haven\'t played FF7 (I\'ve heard most people say that it has a better story than CT whenever I bring up CT as a topic for discussion, and I always insist that nothing could possibly be better than CT) I\'m sure it will provide a much better source of story than did FF:Spirits did.
I\'m hoping that FFVII-2 will have all the realism and special effects in FF:Spirits, only with a much greater storyline.
Though I still wish they made a movie from CT...
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And CT is...?
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Cronotrigger, which is one of the best games ever created and if someone says something else they\'re wrong and have no idea of what a good game looks like.
when I started playing FF Vll I thought it sucked because of the crappy graphics, the strange storyline and the \"childish\" manga style.
Well, it turned out to be the best game I\'ve ever played for many reasons
First of all it has something very few european/american games has, originality. Next the music is incredible, then the story of course with its strong characters and the incredible story.
I agree that FF isn\'t an RPG. It\'s more of an adventure game.
TBC.
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Originally posted by Fanomatic2000
Cronotrigger, which is one of the best games ever created and if someone says something else they\'re wrong and have no idea of what a good game looks like.
ahem.. who made you \"brander of \'good\' games\" ??? :P
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i chould ask you the same question :P
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Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! XD
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Originally posted by seperot
i chould ask you the same question :P
I\'ve always said IMO, after stating something like \"Daggerfall is the best computer-rpg\"
And since everybody here are so fanatic about that \"crappy\" game, it makes telling the truth even more fun...! :D
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FF7 still stands at the top in my book, that is in a tie with Chrono Trigger of course.
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pfft, i still say xalthan hasnt played ff7, i expect he hasnt done more than seen a friend playing it and he wast to scared of japanese people so he left,
woo go moogie
anyway, i really hope this movie is better than Spirits within... wth did it have to do with FF? ... WHY WERE TEHY IN SPACE?
i heard its only 1 hour long and theres no word on if its coming to america anyway
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Originally posted by bbum
pfft, i still say xalthan hasnt played ff7, i expect he hasnt done more than seen a friend playing it and he wast to scared of japanese people so he left,
woo go moogie
anyway, i really hope this movie is better than Spirits within... wth did it have to do with FF? ... WHY WERE TEHY IN SPACE?
i heard its only 1 hour long and theres no word on if its coming to america anyway
I don\'t care what you think, I\'ve played all but the oldest of ff... I haven\'t played them through, no, because horrible games are only to be tried so you can argue with others about how horrible they are.. I don\'t care, either, if all people here are fanatics about that game, it just shows how ignorant people can be, especially in game judging terms..
have a nice day...
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i think this thread is about the new ff movie, not about how ignorant people are for liking a game.
the first 15 min in ff7 is amazing it gets you hooked instanty, but you probly couldnt remember what happend, i dont think you rlly played.
.edit. p.s. its very rare, as in almost never, that such money or time is put into a game and it really comes out so bad that it doesnt deserve an opinion, infact i dont think there are any games like that, only ignorant opinions
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i played the final fantasy games and didn\'t enjoy them enough to care about it. i just played em and kinda put them away.
you want a good game? check earthbound. that gaem owns ff in any way possible.
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Originally posted by Xalthar
Originally posted by bbum
pfft, i still say xalthan hasnt played ff7, i expect he hasnt done more than seen a friend playing it and he wast to scared of japanese people so he left,
woo go moogie
anyway, i really hope this movie is better than Spirits within... wth did it have to do with FF? ... WHY WERE TEHY IN SPACE?
i heard its only 1 hour long and theres no word on if its coming to america anyway
I don\'t care what you think, I\'ve played all but the oldest of ff... I haven\'t played them through, no, because horrible games are only to be tried so you can argue with others about how horrible they are.. I don\'t care, either, if all people here are fanatics about that game, it just shows how ignorant people can be, especially in game judging terms..
have a nice day...
All that shows is that you\'re not willing to accept that everyone has different opinions. You probably don\'t quit an argument untill you win, do you? Because you know you\'re right... of course. ;)
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Xalthar is only replying to others peoples posts...otherwise he was just joking around, if someone says something to/about him it justifies a response.
And FF is very boring and doesn\'t deserve that many games or even one movie, even though spirits was extremely weird and stupid...but whatever, I\'ll just ignore it.
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Since when could Xalthar not speak for himself? :P
I totally agree about The Spirits Within. That movie was so not worth the name \'Final Fantasy\'. But I can\'t wait to see Advent Children! ^^ looks like it\'ll just be the exact same story, but I don\'t mind. FF7 story is the best I\'ve ever experienced in any game, regardless of if the game itself was good or not.
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Story...then make it a book, I don\'t want to play the stupid thing for hours just to get a new part of this wonderful story.
Originally posted by Mogura
Since when could Xalthar not speak for himself?
Since when did I care? :baby:
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theres enuf reading for it to be a book, add words instead of gfx to express the world and it would be a great book
i didnt think they were so boring, i enjoyed them all
(almost)
-edit, i think what most people dont see is that its not exactly a linear story line like they think, and after the first cd and you enter the world you choose your own path alot more, i rlly liked how they waited off to show you the world to btw, at first i thought there might be no world map at all
oh, and earthbound is classic, of course ive played it, if you enjoyed it im surprised you didnt get a kick out of ff7, check out ff10, its amazing how far these \'rwg\'\'s or somthing have come
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Originally posted by Mogura
All that shows is that you\'re not willing to accept that everyone has different opinions. You probably don\'t quit an argument untill you win, do you? Because you know you\'re right... of course. ;)
Of course I am right..
Originally posted by Kiern
And FF is very boring and doesn\'t deserve that many games or even one movie, even though spirits was extremely weird and stupid...but whatever, I\'ll just ignore it.
Reflects my oppinion..
Originally posted by bbum
theres enuf reading for it to be a book
Words don\'t make great books, if they did all books would be great... And all books aren\'t great...
Next thing I\'d like to discuss is how much Harry Potter sucks... (just to find out just how many \"sissy-fantasy\" fans there are in here) :P
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Harry Potter is the spawn of the devil. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by Caldazar
Harry Potter is the spawn of the devil. Nuff said.
glad you weren\'t on the darkside on this one Cal :P
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i saw the first movie with a friend... we kept yelling out stuff at it....it was fun but i never had a clue what the movie was about....also i dident choose to see it but there was nothing else to whatch at the time >.>