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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: deos on September 30, 2003, 12:07:18 pm
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Order of Death\'s Touch [ODT] is not LOOKING but rather calling forth all necromancers and all those interested in tinkering with the dead. This is a nuetral group, which makes sense since we are more interested in the inanimate dead, not you, living :D. If you are already involved in a guild, no fear, we have no enemies nor should ever have any lest they single us out. Yes, we may be precieved as evil but really we are just sick in the head, I guess, and have morbid fascination with the dead, and the awesome powers we can invoke from the Nether. :) If you are interested in joining please email me [ engeltek@irule.net ] . No cabal please, you are not welcome.
Allies/Friends: AO
Enemies: Cabal*
* This is my own personal decision based on their ethics and way of business. I realize that many a cabal may be seeking the path of a necromancer, however, we are a solid group, and possible corruption is not an option.
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So is it a guild? or just a gathering of players? (non-guild org.)
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You won\'t have much of a chance of preventing Cabal members from joining you, because some (most?) of their members are secret. Good luck, though! Your guild/organization has a solid concept behind it.
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*looks on at Deos making like a big shot Necromancer man*....*Deos prances around in his Toga thingy in the middle of the ritual chamber*.......*hours pass as nothing comes happens, ODT(oddity?:D) members drool while sleeping*........*Deos slips in the drool pool and breaks a hip*
You there..........yes the fool in the toga with the broken hip. Try to reanimate your brain first.
:D
On second thought:
Dont bother. You\'ll die soon anyway. Its not wise for a fledgeling psuedo-guild to threaten the might of The Cabal. A profession specific guild is just plain stupid. You wont be able to do jack besides bringing dead bunnies back to life (ppl dont die in PS and monsters??!! what monsters!;)).
I think you should go in for the Non-guild association idea................ or die. It shall be as you will it.;)
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Originally posted by Auran
A profession specific guild is just plain stupid. You wont be able to do jack besides bringing dead bunnies back to life (ppl dont die in PS and monsters??!! what monsters!;)).
umm... did Auran hit his head or something? :P
only necromancers is pretty good idea, i think...
though i think it will be more like fraternity than a real guild.
Oh, and i don\'t know how yer going to stay neutral while summoning evil/dark creatures and causing diseases :P
but besides that... yea, i think it\'s cool idea :)
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LMAO, ooo. A necromancer guild. I\'m a necromancer, and I don\'t like rivals. Looks like I gonna have to make life difficult for ye.......
(I put up with Xalthar coz we gotta have more than one necromancer in PS :D )
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Fraternity? hehe, I like that. No, actually its a organization (group of players). It\'s not a guild and for a couple of reasons. 1. I already belong to one, and being in multiple guilds could potentially cause a conflict of interest. and, 2. If I said it was to be guild than it may be assumed that I am ahead of it because I started it and that sounds like alot of responsibility. Granted, I could have just made a suggestion for a Necromancer only guild or group but than I thought, no cos the cabal would probably jump all or that.
BTW,
Def. of Cabal:
A conspiratorial group of plotters or intriguers: ?Espionage is quite precisely ita cabal of powerful men, working secretly? (Frank Conroy).
A secret scheme or plot.
Def. of Guild:
An association of persons of the same trade or pursuits, formed to protect mutual interests and maintain standards.
A similar association, as of merchants or artisans, in medieval times.
The cabal sound more like a group than a guild, don\'t ya think?
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Originally posted by Xordan
LMAO, ooo. A necromancer guild. I\'m a necromancer, and I don\'t like rivals. Looks like I gonna have to make life difficult for ye.......
(I put up with Xalthar coz we gotta have more than one necromancer in PS :D )
Hehe, but you can\'t join. Isn\'t that sad?
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The cabal sound more like a group than a guild, don\'t ya think?
looks like a guild as well to me(from my twisted point of view :P )
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lol, I dont want to join. :D
But if I wanted I could. How would they know who I was?
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Originally posted by Xordan
(I put up with Xalthar coz we gotta have more than one necromancer in PS :D )
I guess I should be honored :rolleyes: :P
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Well, I think the necromancer thing will be way more successful as a group than a guild, as I think the Arcane Order deals with all types of magic, am I right?
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Correct that is why we are not a guild. Unfortunetly it does not appear that the dev is going to take our plight into consideration other than having, the \"dark\" way. One of the main reasons for creating this organization is to gain a huge community of necromacers, to not only, gain the attention of the Devs to sway them into creating a class for us and an enticing skill, and magic set but also to create a brotherhood of fellow necromancers. Honestly speaking, our breed is not going to be the most popular, with all the pastel mages, paladins and other do gooders running around. So... rather than strength in numbers, I want strength in unity. Also, contrary to popular belief, this group is to remain NEUTRAL. We are not evil, just because we puppeteer corpses, that is our defense as well as our offense. That is how we survive. Paladins and other holy orders may not find us very tasteful but we have no problems them, if they have an issue with us than that is all on them, whether we choose to aknowledge their that \"issue\", We\'ll probably blow it off and go about our own business.
One important issue that I would like to clear up... I mean for this to be a nuetral \"organization\" and to immediately announce enemies was a bit silly. The cabal are welcome.
There are 2 pre-requisites to joining, 1. You must respect your fellow members, regardless of guild. If you have an issue, it better be personal, and handled in a professional and mature manner. 2. Do not join us in an attempt of underminding or taking over the organization. There is one, and that one is me. I am not a dictator, governer or anything of the sort, when the time comes and enough necromancers have joined, we will choose our style of governance from there.
If you are interested I am collecting names, avatars, bios etc @ engeltek@irule.net.
Note to the Cabal, you will be kept under a watchful eye. Though you seem a threat to any guild or group, we may be able to learn from each other and knowledge is the greatest weapon of all.
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Originally posted by deos
Correct that is why we are not a guild. Unfortunetly it does not appear that the dev is going to take our plight into consideration other than having, the \"dark\" way. One of the main reasons for creating this organization is to gain a huge community of necromacers, to not only, gain the attention of the Devs to sway them into creating a class for us and an enticing skill, and magic set
umm.. correct me if i\'m wrong, but i think there won\'t be \"pick-class\" option in future releases...
Originally posted by deos
We are not evil, just because we puppeteer corpses
actually... yes you are :P
i don\'t think that you\'ll get permission of it\'s former owner to use it ;) :P
desecrating boddies sounds pretty evil to me :P
enslaving souls too...
Originally posted by deos
defense as well as our offense. That is how we survive. Paladins and other holy orders may not find us very tasteful but we have no problems them
aye, some people find desecrating boddies not very tasteful :P
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**uses materea to raise an of undead feinds army to kill draklar** ;)
naa i thing necromancers dont have to be evil like verybody else but the art of necromaney is evil so it whouldbe very wrong to judge someone by what there class is you may kill a potential good ally 8o
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i didn\'t say anything about fighting them...
though still what necromancers are doing is wrong
(power corrupted their minds so they don\'t see it ;))
darn that mate... whatever
*slays whole Seperot\'s army with his fire swords*
$gained_10lvl_in_swords
woohoo!
;)
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I don\'t care what you believe necromancy to be.. your moral codexes are twisted enough as it is...
Power is everything, and I believe the most powerful way (and funniest) would be through death...!
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lol, I agree with Xalthar.
And for the learning off each other bit, tell me summin you can teach us. :D
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Originally posted by Xordan
lol, I agree with Xalthar.
And for the learning off each other bit, tell me summin you can teach us. :D
How about some humbleness...
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naa i thing necromancers dont have to be evil like verybody else but the art of necromaney is evil so it whouldbe very wrong to judge someone by what there class is you may kill a potential good ally
Exactly :D
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Well, the guy\'s dead, so what\'s he need his body for? Necromancer may as well make good use of it. And the corrupting souls thing, that\'s not necromancy, that\'s something else.
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oh, i guess you would be happy to get your body dig out from your grave and used by someone just to get slayed in a fight or something :P
And i\'m pretty sure i said enslaving, not corrupting souls.
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Originally posted by Draklar
oh, i guess you would be happy to get your body dig out from your grave and used by someone just to get slayed in a fight or something :P
Could I care less? I would be dead...
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Somebody said something about corrupting souls and stuff. Anyway, no one\'s enslaving souls either, just reusing the body. I mean, what\'s the point of just letting it go to waste?
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Originally posted by Davis
Somebody said something about corrupting souls and stuff. Anyway, no one\'s enslaving souls either, just reusing the body. I mean, what\'s the point of just letting it go to waste?
Lol,
Think about it, a woman screams in horror as she is killed by her deceased lover\'s animated corpse. That sounds pretty evil to me...
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LOL, Monk. When you put it like that everyone has to agree. :D
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One very cool thing I discovered in Ultima Online is that you can kill a horse and than raise dead and get an undead horse you can ride. It looks hella wicked and very strong, too bad it has a short lifespan before it collapses into a pile of dust. And also since you are its master, it is mountable w/o even having much if at all, the ability to tame creatures. I hope they add nifty things like that into PS.
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Think about it, a woman screams in horror as she is killed by her deceased lover\'s animated corpse. That sounds pretty evil to me...
Oh no, I don\'t think so. If he were my Puppet, he wouldn\'t be off screwing anyone, his ass would be hard at work killing my enemies.
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Originally posted by deos
Think about it, a woman screams in horror as she is killed by her deceased lover\'s animated corpse. That sounds pretty evil to me...
Oh no, I don\'t think so. If he were my Puppet, he wouldn\'t be off screwing anyone, his ass would be hard at work killing my enemies.
My argument is thus:
Suppose she were your enemy, a citizen of a town you are besieging perhaps...
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Originally posted by Monketh
Originally posted by deos
Think about it, a woman screams in horror as she is killed by her deceased lover\'s animated corpse. That sounds pretty evil to me...
Oh no, I don\'t think so. If he were my Puppet, he wouldn\'t be off screwing anyone, his ass would be hard at work killing my enemies.
My argument is thus:
Suppose she were your enemy, a citizen of a town you are besieging perhaps...
civilians don\'t sound like enemies to me :P
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Civilians are great cannon fodder though. Good for target practice. :D
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Originally posted by Half_Pint
LOL, Monk. When you put it like that everyone has to agree. :D
I don\'t agree. I mean, anyone can kill people. This particular necromancer is just doing it creatively. Anyway, a murderer is a murderer. Whoever this husband-reanimator is, he\'s a criminal who gives a bad name to necromancers.
I\'m right, and if you disagree with me, you\'re wrong. Simple as that.
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lol, he a criminal, but as most necromancers have a bad name, it doesn\'t make much difference to there reputation. (And don\'t say u\'r gonna be a \'good\' necromancer dancing the happyhappyjoyjoy or summin.) :D
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Well, the criminals give the necros a bad name, see?
Anyway, never said there was anything wrong with evil necros, don\'t get so goddam offended on me...
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I\'m not offended, lol. :D
And in my opinion all necros are criminals (sorta), as most people would think that using the dead body as a puppet is a crime.
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Well, is using a puppet as a puppet a crime? I mean, who owns the body? It\'s just a thing in people\'s heads, because fantasy stories have so long portrayed necromancers as overrunning villages with armies of undead.
Davis, get over here and post, I need more support here.
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I think that I have said all that needs to be said. If you are dead, what do you care about your body?
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I don\'t think there are any moral objections to necromancery in Yliakum. Bodies are merely discarded through the \"bottomless\" trash shafts without any ritual ceremonies. If you can get your hands on a corpse before its dropped through the shaft, I don\'t see any reason why you can\'t use it if such magic is indeed availible.
In short, in Yliakum, being a necromancer doesn\'t imply that you\'re evil.
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That\'s right! :]
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ok, so u\'d be fine for u\'r dead parents, or wife/husband\'s bodies to be used as puppets in a battle? I think most wouldn\'t.
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In short, in Yliakum, being a necromancer doesn\'t imply that you\'re evil.
If it doesnt imply that thier evil, what the hell does it imply?
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Originally posted by Xordan
ok, so u\'d be fine for u\'r dead parents, or wife/husband\'s bodies to be used as puppets in a battle? I think most wouldn\'t.
Well, that\'s a difficult question. In Yliakum, most races consider a corpse just an empty vessel, that is, without a soul; if this was the case, I\'m reasonably sure there wouldn\'t be any special exception to this scenerio, no.
Originally posted by Sphek
If it doesnt imply that thier evil, what the hell does it imply?
It doesn\'t have to imply anything, other than the fact that you like to play with life-sized, rotting action figures. In Yliakum, based on all my knowledge of the setting, it is possible for a Necromancer to be \"Good\". Naturally, there\'s a certain stigma to being a Necromancer, but that\'s mainly on the player\'s end due to their long conditioning that Necromancers are Evil. I think it would be rather fun to play a Necromancer in this setting...
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Personally I don\'t care if people think that necromancers have to be evil... I play my character the way I want to play him, and don\'t give a damn about any alignments... You may then call me good or evil, just as long as I am not trapped inside some stupid moral box...
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Well said!!! :D
And I suppose a necromancer who uses his undead corpse slaves for a good intention isn\'t that evil, lol.
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Originally posted by Xordan
And I suppose a necromancer who uses his undead corpse slaves for a good intention isn\'t that evil, lol.
bah, mages that play with death fall into dementia. Don\'t expect them to do anything good.
Originally posted by Grakrim
I don\'t think there are any moral objections to necromancery in Yliakum. Bodies are merely discarded through the \"bottomless\" trash shafts without any ritual ceremonies. If you can get your hands on a corpse before its dropped through the shaft, I don\'t see any reason why you can\'t use it if such magic is indeed availible.
so they can:
a) steal corpse
b) get a fresh one ;)
both sound evil to me :P
generally necromancy is evil, since it\'s highly connected to murdering.
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If you murder to get corpses, then it\'s evil, because you\'re killing someone.
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It\'s just as bad as digging up someones grave and experimenting on their left overs. Highly illegal.
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There aren\'t any graves in Ylakium. Anyway, grave robbery gets you a fine. Murder gets you a death penalty.
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bah, mages that play with death fall into dementia. Don\'t expect them to do anything good.
Nothing of the sort. Playing with death is just about as wrong as playing with any other natural phenomena. Its your fear of death that has given you that twisted perception. Death is as normal as Life so there is no reason why a healer and necromancer should be judged differently just because of the magic they use.
In fact, in case you didn\'t know, healing is also a necromantic art. It is known as Necromantic White. Healers were often branded as Satanists in days of yore.
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Originally posted by Auran
bah, mages that play with death fall into dementia. Don\'t expect them to do anything good.
Nothing of the sort. Playing with death is just about as wrong as playing with any other natural phenomena. Its your fear of death that has given you that twisted perception.
no... it is one of RPG systems that given me that perception...
Originally posted by Auran
Death is as normal as Life so there is no reason why a healer and necromancer should be judged differently just because of the magic they use.
uhh... healer is healing people, which is good.
Necromancer is using other people corpses, which is evil.
(now talking generally, not PS)
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Necromancers are known to be able to heal.. it\'s just not all games that give them these abilities.. in D&D some healing spells are under the school of necromancy, in D&D is also the term \"white\" and \"black\" necromancy, healing goes under the white, whilst undeath/death and negative plane energy goes under black..
Mages that \"play\" with death also often end up as the most powerful in games like D&D, transforming themselves into liches.. you might call them demented, but their power far outgrows any other mages, and power is a major \"fun factor\", especially in rpg\'s..
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Note:
Necromancers (class) = playing with the dead, being EVIL. No healing.
Necromancy (Skill) = a mix of healing and dead raising and stuff. Can be white and black.
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Maybe... i wasn\'t playing D&D... i don\'t like magic system there and thing that it\'s heroic fantasy (i prefer dark fantasy :P)
Originally posted by Xalthar
Mages that \"play\" with death also often end up as the most powerful in games like D&D, transforming themselves into liches.. you might call them demented, but their power far outgrows any other mages, and power is a major \"fun factor\", especially in rpg\'s..
Yep, they sacrifice alot to gain great power.
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Originally posted by Xordan
Note:
Necromancers (class) = playing with the dead, being EVIL. No healing.
As I\'ve said so many times before: You DON\'T have to be evil to play a necromancer, it depends on how you want to act... You can do good deeds, but still rely on your skills for power.. An example of this would be Diablo II, it\'s not focused on rpg\'ing, but still, you are able to play a necromancer, who doesn\'t do evil.. As you are able to in many other games too...
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Well in some systems being necromancer always means being evil. In Warhammer there are 2 gods connected to death (brothers). Morr is neutral (is dominating world of the death), Kh?ine is evil (god of those that like to murder and so on).
Necromancers are worshiping Kh?ine, so they are evil.
Worshipers of Morr can use necromancy spells, though if they want to animate dead, they need special sign from him. They aren\'t considered as necromancers, actually they fight them whenever they meet them.
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Yes but what I am trying to say is that a Necromancer isn\'t evil, it depends on what he does with his skills and abilities, just as with any other character... And since Planeshift doesn\'t have any \"classes\" you can\'t force a user of the dark way to be evil, thus he can chose to do good, and act good, and at the same time increase his skills in animating of the dead and the stuff viewed upon as evil by most people...
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Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.
It\'s obvious that you won\'t be true, powerful necromancer if you won\'t be evil.
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Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.
Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:
And I will become as powerful as the time I have to play allows me to become... Using all the powerfull spells of the dark way..
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Originally posted by Xalthar
Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.
Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:
so desecrating one\'s body isn\'t evil? right... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by Xalthar
Originally posted by Draklar
Well you can be neutral necromancer as long as you don\'t do evil things. Animating corpse without allowance from it\'s former owner is evil.
Those things aren\'t evil... you only think they are... :rolleyes:
so desecrating one\'s body isn\'t evil? right... :rolleyes:
Why would that be evil?
define evil.. from where do you get your moral values? who has defined them?
I don\'t want to enter this discussion once again, because all ignorant people have got the same moral values from the same place : religion... and all sensible people know that religion is worthless..
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Originally posted by Xalthar
define evil.. from where do you get your moral values? who has defined them?
I did that in our last discussion.
Noone said any good argument against what i said, so there! :P
and it\'s all about logic:
You influence someone, if thing you did for that person makes him/her hate you - it\'s evil.
Edit: ok this is going off-topic. For definition of evil allignment read any good RPG\'s rulebook. simple...
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There is no good or evil, just differences of opinion. Think of it like this:
Pick a flower to impress a girl and she sees you as sweet and sensitive. But what you just did was kill a living organism.
Girl\'s opinion of you = Good.
Flower\'s opinion of you = Evil.
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Here comes thinking what is lesser good/evil
but how about that:
you sacrifice your life to save someone... isn\'t that good? can it be evil?
you kill someone innocent (for no reason)... isn\'t that evil?
Edit: ok, this is going off-topic. For definition of evil allignment read any good RPG\'s rulebook. simple :P
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Or just look it up in a dictionary. U can\'t argue with that. lol
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\"Desecrating\" a body isn\'t evil. Its former owner is done with it, so, why shouldn\'t someone make good use of it? Draklar, that is not what Xalthar meant.
And Mogura, by your description, it isn\'t evil, becuase who\'s gonna complain? Unless someone\'s using it, the body is just trash, and it\'s gonna rot and be worthless. So, therefore, my side is supported by Mogura. Cool?
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Originally posted by shadowmancer
\"Desecrating\" a body isn\'t evil.
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by shadowmancer Its former owner is done with it, so, why shouldn\'t someone make good use of it?
Yeah, why not dig out someone from his grave... nothing wrong with that, right? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by shadowmancer Its former owner is done with it, so, why shouldn\'t someone make good use of it?
the prob is when some1 tries to make bad use of it
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by shadowmancer
\"Desecrating\" a body isn\'t evil.
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by shadowmancer Its former owner is done with it, so, why shouldn\'t someone make good use of it?
Yeah, why not dig out someone from his grave... nothing wrong with that, right? :rolleyes:
killing monsters and raising them... is that evil?? If not, you don\'t have any reason to continue this discussion, because then the necromancers don\'t have to be evil, at least not in planeshift, because you won\'t be able to go kill some random town, and raise all it\'s inhabitants..
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Originally posted by Draklar
Necromancer is using other people corpses, which is evil.
(now talking generally, not PS)
As you can see i wasn\'t talking about PS :P
but I see you are right.
By animating killed creature\'s corpse you aren\'t doing anything evil.
Well i guess i was wrong :P
you can be neutral necromancer...
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and all sensible people know that religion is worthless..
Well you cant really say that. Its just the way you view it. I mean if you view that religion is about blind belief, dogma and rituals you may say it is worthless. But if you view religion as something that prompts ppl to act in a moral way, to strive to make better ppl of themselves and be compassionate to fellow creatures I would say it is useful. Even if the reasons prompting such behaviour were non existent or illogical i\'d still say that they are reasons worth considering since they make me a better human being.
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If you believe that god exists and the fear of his wrath makes you force yourself to give up bad deeds then I\'d definitely have to say that believing in god was worthwhile even if that belief were false.
the sad thing however is that most ppl interpret religion in the wrong way. Religion is not about believing in god or things like that. Its about making sure that such beliefs benefit mankind as a whole. So you cant just follow religious beliefs and proclaim yourselves religious. You have to find religion in your own mind ( i wont say heart, that organ is incapable of thought).
why not dig out someone from his grave... nothing wrong with that, right?
Meh! it seems you attach too much importance to your mortal remains. That is sad. Why cant you get over the fact that \"Thou art the dust, and to dust thou shalt return\". Its sheer foolishness to attach importance to a cadaver. The person who died doesn\'t care. His family will mourn him for what ? 20 years, 30 years, 50 years?
And how long will his corpse last when even fond memories fade over time? The point is once a person is gone, he\'s gone. Will you not tread upon the soil which is the collective remains of so many loved ones, so many sons and daughters, so many fathers and mothers, so many sisters and brothers, some of them maybe even your own ancestors? So I say make good use of this body while you possess it but once it is gone there is no use pining over it, Such attachment just increases the agony and anguish of death.
Anyhow the fact I want to forward is-
\"Necromancery the proffesion isn\'t evil, its the person practising it who makes it either way.\"
and
\" To each his own prejudice.\"
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Originally posted by Azriel
the prob is when some1 tries to make bad use of it
Yes, then it\'s no better than if someone makes bad use of a sword by going and stabbing someone with it. Necromancy is a means, not an ends, and you people should really understand that.
I agree entirely with Auran.
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It\'s all just opinion. It gets on my nerves a bit in rpgs when people don\'t like you because u are a necromancer. Most people would see necromancy as evil, and unless u change their opinions, it will always be seen as evil by those people and their next generation.
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People are brainwashed so easily by the other fantasy stories they read, which depict Evil Guy\'s undead horde destroying poor George\'s village and killing his family. It\'s all bias.
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ok i have concluded that necromancers are not evil but its so much fun to be a evil necromancer they all are :D ;)
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umm... i\'m not sure if being neutral necromancer will be possible in Planeshift. According to Dark Way description it is about summoning dark/evil creatures, and causing diseases.
And if you aren\'t evil you won\'t be able to cast some of the best necromancy spells... especially those disease spells. Also in any system where you need ingredients to cast spells, necromancy would be evil (getting ingredients like fresh human heart needs murdering).
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Finally, a PLAUSIBLE point from the opposing side...
Actions define alignment. A creature is not dark/evil if it doesn\'t do dark/evil stuff.
And a soldier is not evil if they fight for the cause of right. If a necromancer uses his diseasing thing for good, then he is good.
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Originally posted by shadowmancer
A creature is not dark/evil if it doesn\'t do dark/evil stuff.
If you don\'t want dark/evil creatures then why not choose the Brown Way? :]
Originally posted by shadowmancer
If a necromancer uses his diseasing thing for good
uhhh... how can it be used for good? :P
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Originally posted by Draklar
uhhh... how can it be used for good? :P
Giving Auran a cold on the day of a big battle. :P
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Exactly.
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but.... that\'s fighting evil with evil...
anyways that wouldn\'t be that smart...
If Auran will lead his army, then he will make everyone sick. Now if his army will clash with your army, your soldiers will get sick too. Even if you win the battle, still you\'ll be defensless against any other attack.
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Egad! the people are plotting!
*Auran quickly puts on his \"cloak of mirroring\" ,casts \"Otiluke\'s Greater Sphere of Resilience\"* and cooks up some \"chicken soup\"*
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Otiluke has a Resilient Sphere, a Telekinetic Sphere, and a Freezing Sphere... But no Sphere of Resistance.
And the point is that if Auran got a cold, he wouldn\'t be leading his army. That\'s a bit unrealistic, but it\'s still the point.
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Originally posted by shadowmancer
And the point is that if Auran got a cold, he wouldn\'t be leading his army.
Another point is that it\'s first day of cold, so that probably won\'t stop him.
Yet another is that i doubt there are necrmancy spells that cause \'cold\' :P
More like diseases that are dangerous for life, and probably won\'t show up in first few seconds (unlike Cabal ;))