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Title: Cabal War
Post by: Half_Pint on October 11, 2003, 02:54:55 am

This thread is for those of the Cabal and other guilds who feel that they cannot wait for CB to vent their frustrations with each other.  Just until fighting is possible ingame....

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Post by: shangralah on October 11, 2003, 03:11:27 am

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight iv been playing for a while i dont plan to take my frustrations on anyone so far

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Post by: shadowmancer on October 11, 2003, 03:12:33 am

This is gonna be such a flame war...

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Post by: shangralah on October 11, 2003, 03:16:46 am

i will not be in any player battle over grudges ........ most people in other games dueled for respect and for fun, maybe if im at really hi skill and someone bothers me to much i will fight over grudges

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Post by: Half_Pint on October 11, 2003, 03:39:11 am

I\'m not going to take part in this thread much, but have fun guys.   :D

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 07:33:14 am

I\'m afraid this thread might not work.
So far it seems their only activity is spamming other guilds threads :P
I wouldn\'t count on them stopping doing that...

btw: if all people were showing real (not roleplay) hate for Cabals, wouldn\'t they be considered as real life jerks?

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Post by: Spehk on October 11, 2003, 10:15:08 am

 :]

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Post by: Keldorn on October 11, 2003, 10:36:41 am

The Cabal? Never heard of them :P

No really, I just don\'t care about them. They can do whatever they like, as long as they are having fun doing so. I just don\'t care.

Now if everyone just didn\'t care, all these discussions and threads wouldn\'t be needed.

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 10:58:37 am

I don\'t think it\'s that simple :P
Wouldn\'t you care if they started saying bad stuff about your guild?

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Post by: Keldorn on October 11, 2003, 11:26:45 am

They allready did :P (OI thread).

Again, I don\'t care. Those are just empty words meant to stir things up, heck they don\'t even mean it.
No, they\'ll have to do far worse to get my attention.

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 12:10:27 pm

Well i guess that\'s a good way to handle Cabals :)
but what about new guilds? look at flame warriors thread. Stuff Cabals were saying there surely won\'t help flame warriors get new members.
Should i stay passive to actions like that?
I mean i\'m lawful-good, and furthermore a defender :P

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Post by: Auran on October 11, 2003, 02:06:56 pm

Keldorn is wise. Ignore us.
Draklar is rational. Can he afford to ignore?

Let me tell you: either way, we win.

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Post by: Monketh on October 11, 2003, 02:43:26 pm

Bah, I hate evil geniuses.  
*Throws tamato @ Auran*

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 03:31:11 pm

Auran is careless. Plans no defense.

This way, you won\'t win :)

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Post by: Xalthar on October 11, 2003, 03:54:07 pm

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Originally posted by Draklar
Auran is careless. Plans no defense.

he still has my support though :P Evil geniuses should support each other more often :P:P

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 04:08:22 pm

yea, he would be so helpless if not for you :) :D
*passes tomato to Monketh* ;)

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Post by: shadowmancer on October 11, 2003, 04:31:50 pm

OK, this is my opinions:
This is not the flame war I expected.
This thread is stupid because it seems like all the Cabal does is make trouble in other people\'s threads, and having a thread for them to make trouble in won\'t help.
The Cabal sucks almost as much as Seperot.
Evil geniuses are cool.
Tomatos are soft.
Keldorn is right.
Draklar is right once you see his point of view. I support Keldorn more though.
They are both wrong in the aspect that they ignore what the Cabal claims it will do in the future.
There. Do you feel enlightened now?

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Post by: Monketh on October 11, 2003, 05:08:03 pm

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Originally posted by shadowmancer
There. Do you feel enlightened now?

No, not really.
You do have a good point though.
*Throws rock @ Auran* :P

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Post by: shangralah on October 11, 2003, 05:58:15 pm

i wish you people would stop crying its just a freakin game you make it sound like it effects your life in any way

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Post by: Moogie on October 11, 2003, 06:10:03 pm

Nobody\'s forcing you to read it, Shangralah.

There\'s probably a better way to deal with this than try to purposefully draw the Cabal here to fight. It may be better to find a way to calm them down, rather than throw the flames somewhere else. All I can see this achieving is spreading their nuisance to more areas of the forum.

Still, deal with it as you like. I won\'t interfere unless things get ugly. :)

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Post by: Caldazar on October 11, 2003, 06:18:33 pm

Then you would have to call in the other gods Moogie, since your powers does nothing in this part of the forum ;)

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Post by: shadowmancer on October 11, 2003, 06:26:12 pm

Nah, I like this place. Hostility is entertaining.

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Post by: shangralah on October 11, 2003, 06:30:22 pm

why would the cabal come here anyway there are different forums they go to if you people hate cabal so much why do you insist on having a cabal war thread ........... people need to make up your minds
Ebert and Roper give this thread 2 thumbs down :tdown:  :tdown:

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 07:03:18 pm

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Originally posted by shangralah
if you people hate cabal so much why do you insist on having a cabal war thread

The point of this thread was to stop them spamming other guilds threads :rolleyes:
Not that i believed it will work...

lol it kinda sounds like \"if you hate cabal so much, why do you want to have war with them\" :P

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Post by: seperot on October 11, 2003, 07:32:45 pm

I see things about auran being a evil genius......BAH! he is no more evil that a goldfish. a real evil genius whould keep themselfs quite slide quitely up the ranks of power then near the peak he revilas him/her self kill the highes members and worshiped by all with noone to stand in his/her way.   8o  i created the basis of a master plot  :D

**slaps a copyright on it for later explotation ** :P

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Post by: Half_Pint on October 11, 2003, 07:42:44 pm

Quite frankly, I don\'t care if the Cabal comes to this thread.  It\'s already accomplished it\'s goal.  The Mirth thread isn\'t a flame war any more.   :P

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Post by: Xordan on October 11, 2003, 07:46:27 pm

I\'m here!!!! Not as entertaining as being in other threads but fun.

btw, like to mention that in most other threads, the cabal didn\'t start the \'Cabal spamming\'. (I think, but wouldn\'t bet on it.)

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 07:51:34 pm

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Originally posted by seperot
BAH! he is no more evil that a goldfish.

Aye, you shalt fear teh fearsome goldfish. Before thou will notice, there will be an army of undead fishes after ye. Where do ye think all those flushed fish go to? Aye, to teh fish graveyard. Waiting for final battle, when the great goldfish will show its evil self. The day of doom shalt come soon. Noone will stand in their way... Goldfish... the incarnation of evil... is coming... Our days are numbered...

And yeah, unlike teh goldfish, Auran isn\'t evil genius. The goldfish is waiting in shadows of sludge to get strong enough to take over teh world, while Auran is showing himself from the start...

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Post by: shadowmancer on October 11, 2003, 08:00:14 pm

OK, so Auran isn\'t that evil, but you have to admit, he\'s pretty smart. Really smart, actually. Just not in an evil way.
And sep, exploitation has two i\'s.

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 08:05:00 pm

Yea, i admit he\'s smart... just not as a leader. He could run it much better. Showing themself just gets others ready for fight with evil. Sneak attack would work much better.

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Post by: Xordan on October 11, 2003, 08:17:26 pm

There is one way....... but I not telling. Work it out for yourselves. :D

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Post by: Draklar on October 11, 2003, 08:33:42 pm

Oh... not that again...
This rogue thingy is getting pretty old, especially since yer saying same thing again and again.
If you want to try to fool us, at least think of something new :P

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Post by: Monketh on October 11, 2003, 08:46:22 pm

Yeah really, you guys are getting boring.

Edit:LOL!

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Post by: Xordan on October 12, 2003, 01:24:03 am

*Trys desperatly to think of summin new*

LOOK A DISTRACTION!!!!!!!!!

*Runs away*

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Post by: Fahren on October 12, 2003, 02:48:11 am

You could always come up with a publicity stunt.  Drive a car off a roff or summin\' :D

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Post by: Davis on October 12, 2003, 02:49:37 am

There\'s no fall damage, that\'s not much of a stunt. :D

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Post by: Auran on October 12, 2003, 05:40:20 am

Ugh! Me is smart. Smart good. Me like smart :P

*throws a party! Note: Everyone is invited but bringing gifts(min value:100 USD) is mandatory*:D

But seriously. I AM smart.
No! I really am!
Why wont you believe me??!! GAAAAAAAAAAAAH! X(.

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Post by: Davis on October 12, 2003, 04:20:18 pm

Draklar, he doesn\'t have to be a leader, because he isn\'t technically  a leader, just part of the Cabal Core.

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Post by: Xordan on October 12, 2003, 06:41:48 pm

ahhh. Davis be smart too. :D

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Post by: Draklar on October 12, 2003, 07:49:49 pm

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Originally posted by Davis
Draklar, he doesn\'t have to be a leader, because he isn\'t technically  a leader, just part of the Cabal Core.

hehe... i don\'t remember me saying \'Auran has to be leader\' :P
but if you mean \'Auran doesn\'t have to be smart leader\' then:
in moment when Cabal was started he was only member. That means he was only leader (made aims for guild and so on). At the beginning he showed Cabal goals to the whole community, therefore losing most importand element for guild like that, the element of surprise. It was terrible move, and that\'s why i\'m saying he\'s a bad leader.

Xordan: yes, i *know* there\'s one way, don\'t say that again ;)

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Post by: Auran on October 12, 2003, 09:17:50 pm

Heh! Heh! :D. Suuuure that was a terrible move Draklar. Anything Mr. DefenderMan here doesn\'t understand is bad . All hail the wise and mighty Draklar.:D:D.

I\'ll tell you what. Just be sure and smug about the fact that we will never be able to do anything against you. I mean how could we, being such terrible leaders and all. Now do you believe me??;).

Or if you would for once listen to me my advice to you would be \"Wait and see\". I assure you it\'ll be worth the wait to see the mighty defenders lying crushed and writhing in pain as we assimilate their remains. (who said it was good advice !:D)
 How long it will take? Its not for me to tell , but the time will come assuredly. Either way I doesn\'t look to me if you have much choice besides waiting.

*Evil Laughter*Mwaha!ha!ha!........etc.

BTW-

*Professor Auran\'s Lecture*

*The good Professor quotes*

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hehe... i don\'t remember me saying \'Auran has to be leader\'
but if you mean \'Auran doesn\'t have to be smart leader\' then:......so on.... more drivel

Now the thing we have to notice here is that

\"being a leader\" is a superset of \"being a smart leader\"

therefore consider an element A such that

A not a member of superset => A  not a member of the subset;

if However:

A is a member of the subset but not the superset => Draklar got an F in maths.

References:

Draklarian Mathematics: An guide to horrible logic
By Dr. Bigshot Defenderman  

Idiocy for Dummies:
By Dr. Bigshot Defenderman.

or assuming you have some strains of sanity left in you, you could always read the Classic book

Erotic Adventures of Auran Cragg( New and Updated with lots more graphic detail )
by Dr Auran Cragg :D.

Read some of the reviews of the said book:

(Statements edited to suit purpose :D or purely fictitious)

\" Mogura: I\'ll take one of those \"
\" Caldazar: I\'ll take three of those\"
\" Xalthar : I think we have a bestseller Doctor\"
\" Evanchild: Before I read this book I only desired Gnomes. This book changed my life\"
\"Seperot: After reading this I stopped going out with men\"
\"Deos: WOW! you mean you can do all that with living ppl?!! Heck I became a necromancer for nothing\"
\"Wolfmane: I stopped pretending to be a woman\"

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:

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Post by: Draklar on October 12, 2003, 09:32:02 pm

hehe... i could tell thee right now why was it terrible move, but nah...
Ye just wait and see yerself ;)

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Post by: Draklar on October 12, 2003, 10:48:47 pm

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Originally posted by Auran
Idiocy for Dummies:
By Dr. Bigshot Defenderman.

yep, heh... tis gonna be bestseller :D
and i\'d like to thank those that gave me examples for the book.
So thank ye Auran, especially for thy last post in here (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=5539&boardid=18&sid=aae490dbe6a4b68ce58de21b52026e0c&page=7) :D

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Post by: seperot on October 13, 2003, 08:57:46 am

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Originally posted by Auran


\" Mogura: I\'ll take one of those \"
\" Caldazar: I\'ll take three of those\"
\" Xalthar : I think we have a bestseller Doctor\"
\" Evanchild: Before I read this book I only desired Gnomes. This book changed my life\"
\"Seperot: After reading this I stopped going out with men\"
\"Deos: WOW! you mean you can do all that with living ppl?!! Heck I became a necromancer for nothing\"
\"Wolfmane: I stopped pretending to be a woman\"

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:

i am so going to devote my life in ps to killing you  X(

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Post by: Caldazar on October 13, 2003, 09:11:59 am

lol :D
Please Auran.. I asked you to not use my name in these ads, ruins my reputation ya know ;)
Still, funny :)

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Post by: Xalthar on October 13, 2003, 11:58:58 am

ROFL :D:D:D

I didn\'t even notice those quotes :P:P:P still laughing ;)

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Post by: Draklar on October 13, 2003, 04:56:50 pm

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Originally posted by seperot
i am so going to devote my life in ps to killing you  X(

yea Auran, ye got a little too far with that post.
Insulting people on forum.... veeery nice.
Next time you say yer just roleplaying, you have my laugh.

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Post by: Monketh on October 14, 2003, 02:51:24 am

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\" Mogura: I\'ll take one of those \"
\" Caldazar: I\'ll take three of those\"
\" Xalthar : I think we have a bestseller Doctor\"
\" Evanchild: Before I read this book I only desired Gnomes. This book changed my life\"
\"Seperot: After reading this I stopped going out with men\"
\"Deos: WOW! you mean you can do all that with living ppl?!! Heck I became a necromancer for nothing\"
\"Wolfmane: I stopped pretending to be a woman\"

So Auran, you have begun persueing jerkishness once more?  I thought you were leaning towards evil these days.  But what can I expect though from a liar?

You don\'t have my sympathy. (As if you need it)  I back my guild leader entirely.

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Post by: Davis on October 14, 2003, 03:22:51 am

I don\'t know about your book, Auran, but everyone seems to like your last post.

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Post by: Kiern on October 14, 2003, 03:44:36 am

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Originally posted by Draklar

Insulting people on forum.... veeery nice.

umm...yeah...isn\'t that all he has done?  it\'s not like it is a new concept...

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Post by: Evanchild on October 14, 2003, 04:20:30 am

i have and will always lust for gnomes and only gnomes thank you very much!

do not make assumptions on my sexual preference. it always ends up awkwerd.

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Post by: shadowmancer on October 14, 2003, 04:41:00 am

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Originally posted by seperot
i am so going to devote my life in ps to killing you  X(

NO SPELLING ERRORS! I\'m so proud, seperot... but you still suck.

Very funny, Auran. Do you have any copies in stock?

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Post by: Monketh on October 14, 2003, 09:48:34 pm

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Originally posted by Kiern

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Originally posted by Draklar

Insulting people on forum.... veeery nice.

umm...yeah...isn\'t that all he has done?  it\'s not like it is a new concept...

Which goes to prove you guys are getting boring again. :D

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Post by: Xalthar on October 15, 2003, 01:21:19 am

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Originally posted by shadowmancer

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Originally posted by seperot
i am so going to devote my life in ps to killing you  X(

NO SPELLING ERRORS! I\'m so proud, seperot... but you still suck.

Very funny, Auran. Do you have any copies in stock?

the \"i\" is supposed to be upper case, so there is some degree of error in it :P:P

but who cares, as long as people understand what he\'s saying, there\'s no need to flame...

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Post by: Kiern on October 15, 2003, 02:15:41 am

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Originally posted by Monketh

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Originally posted by Kiern

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Originally posted by Draklar

Insulting people on forum.... veeery nice.

umm...yeah...isn\'t that all he has done?  it\'s not like it is a new concept...

Which goes to prove you guys are getting boring again. :D

Yeah, just to be clear, I\'m not sure if you meant \"you guys\" as me included, if you did....I\'m not in The Cabal, just in case that is what you meant.

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Post by: Davis on October 15, 2003, 03:51:28 am

How come everyone is so jumpy about people that might be accusing them of being Cabal members? Maybe you are...

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Post by: Kiern on October 15, 2003, 03:53:39 am

What? No, I just didn\'t want any misconceptions, I\'m a Lord in OI...

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Post by: Auran on October 15, 2003, 12:07:00 pm

Well ofcourse everyone is jumpy about being associated with the Big Evil :D. One needs guts to face all the opposition we get;). The Cabal certainly is not for the faint hearted. There is always the everpresent danger that if one gets caught that might mean death on the spot. Not to mention that Sep has devoted his life on PS to killing us(me in particular :D).

So i\'d like to invite all of the bold warriors, with that strain of darkness in their souls, to come and realise their destiny with us. Join us and together we\'ll see our enemies fall and be washed away in the rivers of blood we\'ll let run through the lands.

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Post by: Draklar on October 15, 2003, 09:35:47 pm

Give up while thou still can, Auran, and we shalt spare thy life. You can not win. if you really are good at logics, then ye should notice that. Look at thy enemies, look how organised they are. Their movements towards removing any weak points. Thou say ye don\'t see any threat in them. By those words you fool only yourself and those that follow you. You try to build sense of safety by your own lies.
I heard Cabal is brotherhood. How can that be truth when you lie to your own guildmates? Yer leading thy brethren towards certain death. They are just \'puppets\' that you\'ll use to achieve thy personal goals. Goals that won\'t ever be reached. But what can you expect from jerk, right?
That\'s all i wanted to say. What you\'ll do now... is all up to you. I don\'t expect that you\'ll change anything in your ways, but what will you do now? Change topic, insulting me and my friends, like you did last time?
Or answer in \'normal\' way?

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Post by: Half_Pint on October 16, 2003, 12:24:37 am

I guess this thread is getting underway after all...

I\'ve got a fire extinguisher if anyone needs it.   8)

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Post by: Davis on October 16, 2003, 12:41:18 am

I\'m here with the first aid kit.

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Post by: seperot on October 16, 2003, 01:32:37 am

i got the minigun ^.^

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Post by: Xalthar on October 16, 2003, 02:06:11 am

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Originally posted by seperot
i got the minigun ^.^

ever handy that :P

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Post by: Auran on October 16, 2003, 04:39:08 am

I brought the ticket books so I can charge admission:D.
(ANOTHER OF AURAN\'S MULAH MAKING SCHEMES:D)

*Takes out wads of tickets*

Form a line now ppl. No pushing. ........I said no pushing Deos!!X( :P


*to draklar who is at the ticket window*
No sir Defenders cannot get a \'mentally challenged \' discount. As far as I know they are plain stupid. However if you can give me some proof or certification i might consider.

*to evanchild*
No we wont give you any more than three tickets. I dont care if you have 40,000 imaginary members.


:D:D:D

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Post by: Davis on October 16, 2003, 05:12:39 am

Auran, why would you miss the chance to sell 40,000 instead of 3?  :rolleyes: It doesn\'t matter whether the customers are lying. If you have a chance to make a sale, take it.

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Post by: Draklar on October 16, 2003, 06:43:03 am

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Originally posted by Auran
*to draklar who is at the ticket window*
No sir Defenders cannot get a \'mentally challenged \' discount. As far as I know they are plain stupid. However if you can give me some proof or certification i might consider.

another clever answer by Auran :rolleyes:
I take it as that:

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Originally posted by Draklar
Change topic, insulting me and my friends, like you did last time?

so i guess what i said about thou was truth, eh Auran?

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Post by: Auran on October 16, 2003, 12:26:36 pm

I let you in on a little secret Drak me\'ol\'buddy. If I posted serious posts I would just end up boring everybody like you or my friend Keldorn here. I am very much capable of giving straight answers and serious opinions but why would I want to do that. Real life is serious enough for me. So I talk \"THE TALK:D\" here and PRESTO! I observe that the ppl like it! Tell me you dont find the things I say about others funny. Whatever you may think all that is important to me is that it elicits a few smiles at least and some replies. Mission accomplished!:P.

Besides I know that it irks you good sensible folk;):D.

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Post by: Draklar on October 16, 2003, 03:55:25 pm

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Originally posted by Auran
So I talk \"THE TALK:D\" here and PRESTO! I observe that the ppl like it!

Doesn\'t that mean thou failed as jerk?

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Post by: Auran on October 16, 2003, 04:14:14 pm

I wont argue about that. Maybe I failed maybe I didn\'t, I dont posses the temerity of judging myself. I think you should be the judge of that. So I wont clarify myself any further in this respect. I find that anymore exposure on this matter might go contrary to the guild interests.

So, If you say that Auran also craves acceptance and attention I wouldn\'t be the one to contradict.

If I may ask how old are you Drak?

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Post by: Draklar on October 16, 2003, 04:31:14 pm

Well in my eyes you are a jerk, since you want to do actions that will spoil others fun.
But if you really are making others laugh then i think as a jerk... thou hast failed...

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Originally posted by Auran
If I may ask how old are you Drak?

Nah, i won\'t make it that easy for thou ;)
Click on \'profile\' thingy under any of my posts and test thy math skills :P

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Post by: Auran on October 16, 2003, 05:10:37 pm

Ok so you\'re 17. A nice age to be, the same as Moogloo. BTW you and I have the same birthday 11th only different months. Mine\'s Feb. Maybe thats why I like you so much:).

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Post by: Drachion on October 17, 2003, 11:43:52 am

is the entire cabal build from young kids if so you have to convince me in joining since i would be the oldest one then.

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Post by: Xalthar on October 17, 2003, 12:24:48 pm

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Originally posted by Drachion
is the entire cabal build from young kids if so you have to convince me in joining since i would be the oldest one then.

Heh, I hardly believe Auran to be 17... He didn\'t say so either...

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Post by: Draklar on October 17, 2003, 03:13:12 pm

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Originally posted by Drachion
is the entire cabal build from young kids if so you have to convince me in joining since i would be the oldest one then.

Being the oldest one is such a bad thing for you, that you need convincing? ?(

Anyways...
I don\'t think real life age has anything to do with things in-game.
I mean it\'s in-game guild, in-game characters and i\'m pretty sure you are a \"devil-guy\" only in-game ;)

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Post by: Moogie on October 17, 2003, 03:45:31 pm

Auran is plenty older than 17, I know for a fact. :)

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Post by: Drachion on October 17, 2003, 04:36:41 pm

only the dead know that for sure Draklar or you should be that lowlife good for nothing GOD to be the judge of that.
( i hate my parent but since it\'s family i can herras his ass )

and for being the oldest one, it\'s bad to be the oldest one in the game you will not be taken serious ( as you can see ) and my genius appearence would shock them all they would age directly

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Post by: Xordan on October 17, 2003, 05:02:05 pm

Sigh, I couldn\'t care less if u were 3 or 83. We wouldn\'t know that u were the oldest unless u told us, so the \'they don\'t listen to me if i\'m the oldest\' thingy is quite stupid really.  :D

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Post by: Moogie on October 17, 2003, 05:15:37 pm

Yeah, because very few listen to him in the first place, hehe.

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Originally posted by the devil guy
i hate my parent but since it\'s family i can herras his ass

That really sounds worrying.

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Post by: Drachion on October 17, 2003, 05:20:53 pm

For your information \"GOD\" is my parent.
He created me with much pride and he made me look really good and cute on top of it, but then i saw the exorscist on tv and i thought:\" i can do that way better then that rigor rectum over there\".
So i rebelled upon my parent and it kicked me down to hell where i and azriel rule ( the azriel here is only a stealer of the name )

ooc & ot : since none of us truly know the gender of \"GOD\" i state him as parent instead of a gender ;)

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Post by: Draklar on October 17, 2003, 11:33:41 pm

Drachion: i hope thou art aware that thy posts hast nothin\' to do with Planeshift world :P
I mean there is no \'God\' in here. Gods of Yliakum are Talad and Laanx :P

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Post by: Davis on October 18, 2003, 05:38:47 am

Sorry, wrong thread.

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Post by: Draklar on October 20, 2003, 08:42:20 pm

This is reply to Shadowmancer\'s post from another thread (don\'t try to find it, it was deleted).

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Originally posted by shadowmancer
Auran: This guy is really underappreciated. Do any of you have any idea how HARD it is to RP evil? Look at Drachion. He tried and failed miserably. And look: He has created the Cabal, which most of you consider a threat, and has gotten a whole bunch of members! He deserves a little respect for his accomplishments.

aye, i know how it is hard to roleplay evil, but roleplaying evil on threads is just about words, what\'s so hard in that? :P
The real question is do you have idea how HARD it is to RP good ;)
From thy post I\'d say no, so here\'s example of how can it look like:
You are paladin and at the moment you have job of protecting someone. Suddenly you are attacked by group of some powerful creatures. What would you do? Fight for yourself and stay alive, but also let person yer protecting die?
or fight in protection of that person, not carring that much about defense for yourself, therefore probably getting killed?
And to make it even harder: you are playing p&p RPG so if you die... you won\'t get back.

Drachion failed? i still think there\'s much more evil in him than in Auran :P
insane evil, but still... ;)

\"most of you consider a threat\" i think you got a little too far with those words :P
For now i don\'t know if anyone considers \'em as threat, but even if there are some people, still, i don\'t think they are \"most\" :P

a whole bunch of members, eh? how do you know that?
From what Cabals are saying? Same Cabals that want to achieve their goals by lies? ;) :P

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Originally posted by shadowmancer
Draklar: OOH! Let\'s go defend some stupid people who don\'t deserve to exist!

Now whed did i say i want to Defend Auran? ;) j/k
seriously: i thought it will be something worse than that :P

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Post by: Davis on October 21, 2003, 02:17:56 am

eBay disagrees. :D
Actually, if you go to their \"eBay community values\", #1 is \"All people are basically good.\"
For about a month I was obsessed with psychology, so I ran some tests, and yeah, eBay\'s right. Events can change this though.
Paladins have to decide what defines good and honor, however, and that\'s what makes RPing a paladin so hard.

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Post by: Auran on October 25, 2003, 08:43:46 pm

I say Paladins are idiots laying down their lives for people they know not and might not see again for the rest of their existences. Are these insignificant wretches worth your blood I ask you? You have a wrong view of the corruption. You see it as evil and I see it as profitable. Why must I care for some wretches who have done nothing for me. I\'d rather use their corpses to hoist me to my ultimate goal.

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Post by: Davis on October 25, 2003, 11:50:11 pm

Which is... ?

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Post by: Draklar on October 26, 2003, 12:23:27 am

i guess
taking over the world,
enslaving everyone,
stuff like that :P

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Post by: Auran on October 26, 2003, 03:49:44 am

Absolutely. Finally me and draklar agree on something:P. I\'ll sum up our goals again.

- To conquer the world.
- To take over or destroy all guilds which might hinder us.
- To make the lives of people difficult until they give in to the darkside.
- To carry out and control all criminal activities within PS.
- To become the most richest and most powerful.

So I don\'t care if you think I am a harmless bunny or a malignant demon as long as I am able to fulfill these aims. The Cabal doesn\'t crave recognition or respect. We want success in our aims at all costs. So you can either be with us and prosper, or you can stand in the way and be crushed underfoot.

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Post by: TheGeneral on October 26, 2003, 08:21:42 am

Didn\'t I join this half-baked sckeem a while back?
Man, was I messed up or what? I mean, God.....
Oh well, no reason to cry now, for I will rule the PS soon!! RULE!!! SOON THE PS i will!

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Post by: Auran on October 26, 2003, 09:04:12 am

Ah Alucard! A face from the Cabal\'s past. Yes we have grown and changed much since we last crossed paths.  Are you still with us or would prefer to work against us along with this herd of idiots here?

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Post by: TheGeneral on October 26, 2003, 07:29:27 pm

I am more against the idiocy in PS, but the half-baked scheeme is really not my type of scheem. I\'ll be back.

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Post by: Davis on October 26, 2003, 07:42:04 pm

Power isn\'t that great. If you are gonna be evil, the motivation should be greed.
\"- To carry out and control all criminal activities within PS.
- To become the most richest and most powerful. \"
That\'s evil.

\" To conquer the world.
- To take over or destroy all guilds which might hinder us.
- To make the lives of people difficult until they give in to the darkside. \"
That\'s stupid.

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Post by: Auran on November 03, 2003, 06:51:31 pm

Me thinks the flames of war need to be rekindled.
Whether anyone admits it or not the Cabal generates more hatred in the average good aligned or neutral idiot that any other guild ever has.

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Post by: Savion on November 03, 2003, 09:05:46 pm

Exactly why I want to join. I will be playing a chaotic evil character.

WAY TO MUCH FUN!

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Post by: Xordan on November 03, 2003, 09:12:31 pm

yay, new member!!!!

*SCOOOOOOOORIOOO!!*
(Welsh, the most abandoned language n the world)
 :D  :D  :D

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Post by: Kiern on November 03, 2003, 10:12:25 pm

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Whether anyone admits it or not the Cabal generates more hatred in the average good aligned or neutral idiot that any other guild ever has.

Not true.

Maybe currently and in a better way, yes, but definately not out of every one of them.

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Post by: Savion on November 04, 2003, 03:20:30 am

Well tell me this. What is the point of playing a Role Playing game if there are no bad guys?

BURN! DESTROY! PILLEDGE! RAIZE!

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Post by: Draklar on November 04, 2003, 07:11:27 am

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Well tell me this. What is the point of playing a Role Playing game if there are no bad guys?

BURN! DESTROY! PILLEDGE! RAIZE!

well there still is point to roleplay :P
not like everyone will be fighting bad guys :rolleyes:

anyways, Cabal isn\'t only evil guild around, actually, they are lousy at being evil :P
hmm... they make everyone laugh so i consider them as clown guild. But Auran says they are some higher type of evil. Maybe he considers evil clown more evil than dread knight, i don\'t know :P

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Post by: Auran on November 04, 2003, 08:10:14 am

Ah don\'t be dissapointed with us Draklar. We are trying our best to ensure the most painful and horrific possible existence for all in PS. I admit that no one is perfect but trust us we\'ll do our utmost to give you a nightmarish existence which will make you want to die but you wont be able to.

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Post by: Draklar on November 04, 2003, 05:19:15 pm

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trust us we\'ll do our utmost to give you a nightmarish existence which will make you want to die but you wont be able to.

ok, just a tiny advice:
Before you make this kind of goal, know a little more about one you want to get into something like that :P
Because considering Draklar\'s past, yer just going to waste your time :D

hmm... so that\'s your best?
Not even checking who is your enemy?

Cabal is a waste of time then...

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Post by: seperot on November 04, 2003, 07:06:40 pm

**seperot is desencitised to all forms of horror twistedness bloodshed and nightmareish stuff so wonders how auran will achive anything**

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Post by: Jessyn on November 04, 2003, 09:22:52 pm

The Cabal is quite amusing.  If I were more paranoid than I already am, I might think that this whole thing was a trick, to get us to think the cabal were pathetic, so would woulnd\'t keep an eye on them as much as say, the Dark Order(welcome back Aelya), or the mirth guild(i\'m convinced they\'re up to no good... :D )  

As it is, I can\'t wait for the Cabal to crush me underfoot, this should be worth a laugh.

Jessyn

Auran: nothing personal, i just don\'t like your guild.

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Post by: Xordan on November 04, 2003, 10:19:47 pm

Can be arranged  :D
*Puts Jessyn on \'2 kill list\'*

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Post by: Draklar on November 04, 2003, 11:00:35 pm

nah Jessyn...
Cabal is probably just a smoke-screen.
I mean... Cabal guild is just too pathetic to be real :P

They probably created other guild, and while we\'ll be busy with Cabal, that other guild will backstab us ;)

It is impossible that Cabal is serious guild :P

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Post by: lynx_lupo on November 04, 2003, 11:13:53 pm

heh. You know, a guy got the Nobel prize for proving that there is order in every chaos.
...
You can never know... and the backstabing statistics...:) :D

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Post by: Xordan on November 04, 2003, 11:15:29 pm

Oh no. Draklar found out our secret plan *faint*

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Post by: Jessyn on November 05, 2003, 12:09:15 am

well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

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Post by: Dameon on November 05, 2003, 03:23:32 am

Not cool. Leave the Mirthful men alone ;)

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Post by: Savion on November 05, 2003, 03:33:13 am

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Originally posted by Jessyn
well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

Well, don\'t go putting your fear in the wrong place. Keep it where it belongs.  The Cabal shall rule all with the chains of Fear and the grasp of tyrany.

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Post by: Draklar on November 05, 2003, 07:00:34 am

Like anyone should fear guild that accepts any newbie that wants to join them :rolleyes:

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Post by: Savion on November 05, 2003, 03:45:13 pm

IT is not the people who join and leave that should be worried about. Worry about the ones that mean buisness. Underestimating again... tisk tisk tisk

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Post by: dorbian on November 05, 2003, 07:46:19 pm

like the cabal :D i think you can easily create a character enter the guild spy a bit and give the info to others.

make a test or something like get me 400 mugs and ur in :P

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Post by: Davis on November 05, 2003, 08:58:33 pm

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Originally posted by Jessyn
well drak, that also is a possiblility, i bet it\'s the mirth guild, they\'re really the evil ones that will strike while we are laughing at the cabal.(Yes, i realy am that paranoid)

Jessyn

 ;(
We\'ve been around for like, a long time. Before the Cabal.
What did we ever do?
You made me sad, Jessyn.  X(

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Post by: Xordan on November 05, 2003, 11:06:55 pm

I\'m sure we\'ll tell a newbie all our plans..... Why don\'t u join and find out what u can learn?

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Post by: Savion on November 06, 2003, 04:22:27 am

Of course you do... I know EVERY SINGLE thing that the Cabal do...

notice the heavy sarcasm in my voice... er typing... uh ya.

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Post by: Auran on November 06, 2003, 03:58:34 pm

Don\'t worry about The cabal ppl. Here Everyone knows what they should know;). Not a bit more nor less.

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Post by: Draklar on November 14, 2003, 03:37:23 pm

ok, i was wondering about that thing for some time:
Are you Cabals considering yourselfs as ones staying in Yliakum realm?
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating. Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no? Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild. Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave. This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

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Post by: Adrift on November 14, 2003, 03:53:56 pm

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Originally posted by Draklar
ok, i was wondering about that thing for some time:
Are you Cabals considering yourselfs as ones staying in Yliakum realm?

Umm... yes? ?(

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Originally posted by Draklar
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating.

Our aim is not to destroy anything. It\'s to take them over, gain control. Fake accounts are needed in games such as this where real-life things simply arn\'t possible. In these cases where you cannot just change your name, wear different clothes, change your hairstyle and get a new identity and still be the same person, you have no other choice but to improvise. Creating a new character is the only way to achieve this, and results in exactly the same thing as if you were to spy in the real world-- your body and name look different, but underneath, you are still the same person. This is cheating? We\'ll let the devs decide that.

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 Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no?

Roleplaying is all about being in a role and convincing people of who you are, make them believe that you live in this world. Spying is the ultimate roleplay challenge in that you must manage both your \'original\' roleplay identity/alias aswell as become someone completely different to disguise yourself perfectly as a spy. I really don\'t think I do a good job of this... but nobody\'s said anything to \'me\' yet so I can\'t be too bad at it. ;):D

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 Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild.

Nah it doesn\'t. Like I said our goal is not to kill stuff.

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 Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave.

I don\'t think we are the people who don\'t enjoy this. If you don\'t like it, on the other hand, please take your own advice. :P

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 This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

Auran is nice in real life, he just likes messing with people\'s easily influenced minds. And by the way, no matter what excuse you place for the reason why the forums are boring, it is still a FACT that the forums would be much less interesting without a Cabal presence. So NYA! :D woot for such a long post.

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Post by: Xordan on November 14, 2003, 04:00:13 pm

ok, I\'ve been thinking this for some time:

U suck pretty much. Our spies don\'t need multiple accounts. Although they could be useful now u mention it. But u\'r not smart enough to work out how we do it are you? All our spies are fully based on roleplay. And no, I\'m not going to tell u all our plans just because u keep bugging us.
Why do we need free PVP? We\'re not a warrior guild or anything. It\'s 2 our advantage that the game isn\'t full PVP. Actually, your the ones who are talking about slicing us to death when CB comes out. Your the ones who want the full PVP. If u don\'t like the fact that u can\'t kill us then u can leave. :D

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Post by: Draklar on November 14, 2003, 04:28:38 pm

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Originally posted by Draklar
I mean Cabal is guild kept out of roleplaying. I point out the spying. You guys want to destroy guilds from within by placing there fake accounts. Not only that has nothing to do with roleplaying, but also is pretty much cheating.

Our aim is not to destroy anything. It\'s to take them over, gain control. Fake accounts are needed in games such as this where real-life things simply arn\'t possible. In these cases where you cannot just change your name, wear different clothes, change your hairstyle and get a new identity and still be the same person, you have no other choice but to improvise. Creating a new character is the only way to achieve this, and results in exactly the same thing as if you were to spy in the real world-- your body and name look different, but underneath, you are still the same person. This is cheating? We\'ll let the devs decide that.

oops... heh, sorry yea, you just want to take over, but... well... i wouldn\'t make that mistake if you guys wouldn\'t change stuff every few days :P
nice bunch of excuses... but how do you know spies won\'t be able to do that? :P

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Your spying is fully based on player skills, that\'s clearly against roleplaying, no?

Roleplaying is all about being in a role and convincing people of who you are, make them believe that you live in this world. Spying is the ultimate roleplay challenge in that you must manage both your \'original\' roleplay identity/alias aswell as become someone completely different to disguise yourself perfectly as a spy. I really don\'t think I do a good job of this... but nobody\'s said anything to \'me\' yet so I can\'t be too bad at it. ;):D

so what about let\'s say archers... make Quake from PS or something? I mean if one profession can be based fully on player skills, then why can\'t another?
And you can change personality in-character, why making new char?

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 Devs don\'t want player skills influencing stuff too much. Furthermore they don\'t want free pvp, which ruins first concept of your guild.

Nah it doesn\'t. Like I said our goal is not to kill stuff.

i said first didn\'t i? If you\'d know a bit more about your guild, you\'d know that in the beginning Cabal wasn\'t supposed to take control over other guilds, but kill people like newbies whenever it was possible.

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 Don\'t try to change it by rebelling or something... if you don\'t like the way it is so much, just leave.

I don\'t think we are the people who don\'t enjoy this. If you don\'t like it, on the other hand, please take your own advice. :P

again, i know about it a bit more than you, like i remember Auran argueing with me about no free pvp

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 This is especially to Auran: how can you say you are nice in real life, while cheating thanks to thing that game is free? And don\'t say forums would be boring without you - Currently PS is in pre-alpha stage, so it\'s pretty obvious that there isn\'t much talking on guilds threads. This might change soon, when CB will come out.

Auran is nice in real life, he just likes messing with people\'s easily influenced minds. And by the way, no matter what excuse you place for the reason why the forums are boring, it is still a FACT that the forums would be much less interesting without a Cabal presence. So NYA! :D woot for such a long post.

ok, that wasn\'t answer to how can he cheat if he\'s nice guy :P

uhh Xordan... :P
pvp: read what i said above :P
Actually i\'m the one that says Cabal is a waste of time... what\'s your point? :P
you can\'t not-fake and spy for now. You see in real-life there still are things like your apparence, which won\'t allow you to change completely, if you are annoying to other people making yourself well known, and then try to change how you look like, still some will recognise you because they know how you look like very well. In here you just make new account (with other name) and no one knows you. So considering you guys are spying, and spying isn\'t implemented yet, you simply cheat...
you suck ;)

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Post by: Yarulion on November 14, 2003, 04:36:13 pm

I think what she means is that in RL you change your main identifier (your appearance) and then you try to keep all the little things hidden.

In game, you change your main identifier (your name) and then you try to keep the little things like how you type, how you tend to respond to things, what your \"hot buttons\" are, hidden.

Face it, man. You couldn\'t very well walk up to the Cabal and be an effective spy in their guild as long as the first thing they see is the name Draklar :P

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Post by: Draklar on November 14, 2003, 04:53:47 pm

*slaps his forehead*
geez Yarulion... how do you know changing appearance won\'t be possible in future releases?
actually that\'s what i heard from Venge as answer to will spying abilities be implemented:

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perhaps appearance, perhaps hiding

one more thing: :)

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I also think that every ability will have a separate but equal counter-ability. So the invis rogues will be caught by the \"detect invis\" druids, or whatever.

Edit: one more thing: if i were spy i wouldn\'t make myself well known, so that wasn\'t good example.

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Post by: Adrift on November 14, 2003, 04:56:34 pm

Exactly my point Yaru! Exactly! Man I love you. :D Draklar, sure you could change your appearance, but probably not your name, and PROBABLY not for another 3 or 4 years untill all this fancy-pants stuff is implemented!

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Post by: Xordan on November 14, 2003, 04:59:12 pm

lol, our best spies only spy in one guild. So we can spy and not-fake for now. Work it out for u\'rself

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Post by: Draklar on November 14, 2003, 05:05:03 pm

ok, i was wrong on cheating by making new char... that is as long as you don\'t consider spy char and your main one as same person... tho it seems you guys do :P
Adrift, yea, changing names probably won\'t ever be possible, tho hiding them will.

and to all 3:
Like everything else, spying isn\'t implemented yet, Cabali keep that out of game
:P

edit: see? you are ones whining about PS ;)

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Post by: Adrift on November 14, 2003, 05:10:49 pm

It\'s everyone else whining about us and saying we\'ll all be dead in CB. Did we make this thread? No! Did we make the two threads in Guilds forum about some unimportant, unamusing Cabal thread? No! We don\'t whine about PS at all. You do it all.

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Post by: Draklar on November 14, 2003, 05:30:54 pm

This thread was made to prevent you from spamming other guilds threads. :rolleyes:
you know you just said that we whine about PS by whining about Cabal? :P

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Post by: Runesabre on November 22, 2003, 05:43:57 am

I\'m not sure that everybody agrees,but I think the Crimson Shade Knights should join up with the Mirth Guild.Really, they are basically fighting for the same purpose.To overthrow the cabal and all that. Although it wasn\'t noted, the CSK actully want peace and justice,just as the mirth guild might want. The only thing is that the CSK needs 3 more members to become an officail guild.This I have been frustrated with.Please note to me or KalKeraden if you wish to join.

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Post by: Runesabre on November 22, 2003, 05:49:32 am

Is it me,or are the matters starting to be taken into Draklar\'s hand.Sure,I would gladly join the dark alliance(If I could) but seeing that the dark empire seems to get more cocky and there power is growing, I think we could use a little help here. But, Draklar is a dragoon in the dark empire,so he has nothing of my interest(Unless i\'m aloud to join for free.)

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Post by: Auran on November 22, 2003, 09:21:09 am

Of course it just you Runey baby. After all you are officially a Third Class lord :D:P.

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Post by: Kal Keraden on November 22, 2003, 05:41:06 pm

Yay...Many don\'t like the Cabal. Woo...Cabal\'s Guild is an infestation of spammers. Joy...Ok. So how are you guys gonna have a war without nowing what the battle system would be like? Or is this just a Cold War?

NOTE:Savion is part of the Cabal right? And he\'s leader right? But as mad as all of them are, why is it that he\'s the only one there who refers to himself in third person?

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Post by: Draklar on November 22, 2003, 05:56:07 pm

Whoa! Savion is far from being part of leadership, he\'s just a puppet :P
And others aren\'t crazy... just \'not smart\' ;)

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Post by: Antium on November 23, 2003, 07:53:30 pm

This is so pointless. Fighting wars on the forums. What is this world comming to?

U guys are so selfish...

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Post by: seperot on November 23, 2003, 11:16:33 pm

its called a game dude we can half wars because NO one dies
the worst anyone can do is hurt omeones feelings

games are fun thus Game war is funn

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Post by: Natrina on November 27, 2003, 09:57:12 pm

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No one likes the Cabal.

That\'s a lie, I dont care with Cabal and if they become my costumers, I might like them so please at least say \"Most people don\'t like Cabal.\"

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Post by: seperot on November 27, 2003, 10:00:18 pm

I like cabal there my spying apponents :D

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Post by: Rakera on November 30, 2003, 04:19:57 am

Cabal this, Cabal that. Cabal everything. Are they hated that much? If so, I feel sorry for them(not!).What is the use of this thread?


p.s. Anyone need a bounty hunter?

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Post by: Luminar on November 30, 2003, 11:15:52 am

Cabal this, cabal that etc etc etc.

Don\'t feel sorry for these guys. From what I see they have a heck of a time with what they do. Me wonders what guilds are the arch-enemies of Cabal?

What is funny is they seem to be most disliked by other evil guilds. Is that just strange or are there reasons for it?

I notice method in their madness whatever others may feel the cabal is. One thing I can say is that they seemed to have carved a niche for themselves in PS. Hardly any other evil measures upto the impact of theirs. But i may be wrong. I am a newbie after all. An observant newbie is still a newbie nonetheless:).

PS:
I am sorry if this has been discussed a 100 times over. I just felt I needed to say my bit about it:).

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Post by: Xalthar on November 30, 2003, 03:04:22 pm

no need to be sorry :) the cabal has had it\'s impact, and the community are getting used to their presence... That doesn\'t mean that their activities are lesser than when they first got here, on the contrary, they are most active, and most evil I might add ;)

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Post by: Draklar on November 30, 2003, 03:59:24 pm

Yea, Cabal is most evil, just like any n00b that connects and shouts \"i will rule you all!\" in first minutes of playing :P
and as for activity... yep...i got used to them, i got used to them so much that i only see one Cabali posting :D

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Post by: Xalthar on November 30, 2003, 05:50:22 pm

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Yea, Cabal is most evil, just like any n00b that connects and shouts \"i will rule you all!\" in first minutes of playing :P
and as for activity... yep...i got used to them, i got used to them so much that i only see one Cabali posting :D

Evil in ways your feeble mind cannot percieve I am forced to believe :P

Well, they don\'t post here due to facts I am sure your sucky-up-alliance are getting used to employ...

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Post by: Draklar on November 30, 2003, 06:06:33 pm

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Evil in ways your feeble mind cannot percieve I am forced to believe :P

yea i bet you can find different evil between someone that spams and wants to take over everything (Cabal) and someone that spams and wants to take over everything (teh n00b) ;) :P

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Post by: Xordan on December 01, 2003, 12:22:06 am

Pah, at least The Cabal arn\'t half dead like the BO. U should read the BO forums, everyone is wondering why some person they don\'t know from an allied guild is telling them what to do. Mutiny I think. :D

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Post by: seperot on December 01, 2003, 12:41:46 am

**falls off chair** ahh a cabal!!!

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Pah, at least The Cabal arn\'t half dead like the BO. U should read the BO forums, everyone is wondering why some person they don\'t know from an allied guild is telling them what to do. Mutiny I think

I sayed that all along