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Gameplay => Wish list => PvP,PK and Thieving => Topic started by: Zeonire on October 30, 2003, 03:09:30 am

Title: Wilderness
Post by: Zeonire on October 30, 2003, 03:09:30 am
Now in RS there is a special zone for pvp characters. it is called the wilderness. is it going to be like theres just a widlerness where pvp can occur, or duels wherever, just as long as both chars accept, or outside of the cities, or what?
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Post by: Mezasa on November 01, 2003, 01:34:29 am
LOL! Don\'t refer to \"that game\"! I admit that I play it, but some people are a little mean and think that it is just pure evil. But, as it currently stands, I think that the-game-that-shall-not-be-named is better at THIS point in PS development. After they get more stuff in PS, it will kick \"that evil game\'s\" ***!
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Post by: ryan10230 on December 03, 2003, 02:27:02 am
If they were going to have a place for duels and such I think an area would be better so you could have spectators.
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Post by: Xelon on December 05, 2003, 09:35:24 pm
im sure someone has said this before but meh... personally i think there should be areas where all out pking etc. is allowed and when you go in there you have like a higher chance of getting rare items but run the risk of getting killed.
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Post by: Icefalcon on December 06, 2003, 04:35:07 am
ya know what...the-game-that-shall-not-be-named is not that bad...its addictive and fun untill lv 50 or so, after lv 50 you realise thats its a really boring game with no depth...but untill you come to that higher acknowledgment, its a great game.

I know its not really on topic but whatever...
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Post by: Tyriel on December 12, 2003, 02:02:02 pm
for my opinion..pk should be allowed everywhere but there has to be some laws like..
If u kill another char inside the city zone ull get the \"wanted dead or alive\" sign so other chars could bounty ur ass.. :)
that would make the game more...real
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Post by: Kixie on December 12, 2003, 10:33:31 pm
yeah tyriel thats what i have been trying to say. this whole arena fighting is bulls***! that makes the game so bland. its as dumb as pokemon... i mean whats keeping people from killing each other in real life? nothing and it makes life interesting. if real life consisting of fighting in arenas then the suicide rate would increase,  so my point is i guess taking away a balancer of gameplay creates more problems and even a bit of blandness.... :(
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Post by: Tyriel on December 12, 2003, 10:44:18 pm
Damn right...I mean there are so many other online games that have same rules of PKing...for once some game should have to different from others..
U get my point??
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on December 13, 2003, 05:17:57 am
Pk\'ing sucks, Pk\'ing reeks, Pk\'ing romps, PK\'ing bites, however you want to put it, no Pk;ing should be allowed. Pk\'ing should be kept under an arena with strict procedures to register to fight someone and so on. Oh yeah did I mention Pk\'ing sucks?
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Post by: Kixie on December 13, 2003, 05:46:27 am
my god how can you say that. i can feel the game getting worse as we speak. taking away PKing is like taking away jelly filling from a jelly filled donut. I play mmorpgs for fighting, not arena based combat or as you suggest none at all! blasphemy i say! its crazy and i makes me wanna make my own game! a game where crazy coots like you are out lawed and we can all live happily toghether (decapitating each other with our level 99 char) I almost cant stand arenas and then they try to take away our combat all together. what next? who knows, but I know after about 3 more choices we will be playin crappy text based games which is the whole reason why we are sitting here waitin for crystal blue! ARGH!!!!11!&(*@!~``111 X(
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Post by: dfryer on December 13, 2003, 09:28:36 am
You can feel the game getting worse as we speak?  You *do* realize that the devs have said \"No PK\" and perhaps amended that to \"killing of other players only under very special circumstances\"

You will not be able to run up and kill some random dude.  The whole point is that this MMORPG will *not* be based (entirely) on fighting, especially PVP fighting.  The only real context where PVP makes sense (in my mind, dunno what the devs think) is assassination of high-status characters, and maybe wars between factions.  Both of those are hard to \"do right\".  If you want to kill stuff, kill Zograck the Slimy Monster of Doom.  That or cute, fluffy bunnies.

In some ways it is \"realistic\" to allow full PvP in wilderness areas, but it can severely upset the balance of the game, which is designed to lean against the typical bias toward killing people.
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Post by: Kixie on December 13, 2003, 05:44:22 pm
WHATT!!!!! R00nscape allows very much pvp but i still think that pvp should be everywhere not just wilderness. its just a bad idea for wilderness. 2ndly in r00nscape and many other games there are characters who make great livings as other things and not just fighters! cmon give me a break on this upsetting the balance. it would upset the balance if we didnt have PVP!!!!111
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Post by: Boldstorm on December 13, 2003, 07:49:56 pm
PvP EVERYWHERE. No I am not going to be one of those mad maniacs that likes going on killing sprees, actually don\'t get too much into PvP but I do think having it everywhere makes it much more realistic. There should definetly be consequences for PvP in certain areas but I think it should still be allowed.
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Post by: Kixie on December 13, 2003, 09:33:32 pm
pvp is everywhere is a great idea everyone face it. even the people like us who love pvp everywhere agree there should be limits and we want them. so stop all these people screamin at me \"PVP everywhere sucks!\" or even \"PVP at al sucks!\" you suck! you all suck! haha!!!

P.S not to the people who want PVP tho...  :D
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Post by: Xordan on December 13, 2003, 10:02:16 pm
FULL PVP YAY!!!!
I am one of those mean people who go around having killing sprees. :D I\'m a n00b b4sh3r 133t 8)
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Post by: Xalthar on December 14, 2003, 01:00:50 am
PVP is one of the fun factors of mmorpg\'ing... without it, we\'ll get bored after the first month after every update...
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Post by: Xordan on December 14, 2003, 02:10:44 pm
Pk\'ing is just as important as PVP. :D But in PS it will be restricted to certain areas distant to the majority. (Such as dungeons.) And that\'s if Pk\'ing will be allowed......
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Post by: AgentZ on December 14, 2003, 04:40:12 pm
I like the wilderness idea along with a PK sign that appears when you PK someone so everyone can PK you without consequence. In FungWan Online, when you PK someone, you get a PK point. 1 point causes stores to raise their prices by 5%, a second point causes you to gain 5% less exp points. I think that is how we should deal with PvP. Im SICK and TIRED of these pansy, lets all be nice MMORPG\'s where everyone goes around handing each other flowers because there is absolutely no PvP. Where is the fun? Killing monsters gets repetitive and the idea of some long drawn out process of challenging someone puts me to sleep. I wanna be able to PK some ass who is KSing me. Lets not make this another run of the mill pansy MMORPG
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Post by: yandaoben on December 21, 2003, 06:47:31 pm
i duno how to quote, but sum 1 earlier in this thread said sth like \"PvP and PK shld be everywhere, but when u kill in a city, u get a wanted sign\". i dun agree to this cos this is a free game rite? so some l0sers may just cr8 junk accts. to PURPOSELY PK in city. Ah, then what happens?
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Post by: Skizzik on December 22, 2003, 08:27:09 pm
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Originally posted by AgentZ
I like the wilderness idea along with a PK sign that appears when you PK someone so everyone can PK you without consequence. In FungWan Online, when you PK someone, you get a PK point. 1 point causes stores to raise their prices by 5%, a second point causes you to gain 5% less exp points. I think that is how we should deal with PvP. Im SICK and TIRED of these pansy, lets all be nice MMORPG\'s where everyone goes around handing each other flowers because there is absolutely no PvP. Where is the fun? Killing monsters gets repetitive and the idea of some long drawn out process of challenging someone puts me to sleep. I wanna be able to PK some ass who is KSing me. Lets not make this another run of the mill pansy MMORPG

actually, prices are increased by 25% when you get your first pk point and it\'s not until your sixth or so where mobs killed by you get a 10% chance of not dropping loot. The less-exp penalty is a lot later.
If you have a lot of pk points in FWO, town guards will attack (and if they can, kill) you on sight.
Other penalties are even more increased prices, less exp, even more chance of mobs not dropping loot. All these penalties are cumulative with eachother.
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on December 24, 2003, 09:47:23 pm
In respone to Whemyfield:


oh killing monsters over and over gets so tiring, well I guess the Devs should spend time making cool monsters. We should just have little rats everywhere. What\'s the difference fighting people over and over again and fighitng monsters over and over again. When it boils down to one main idea its the samething. I\'m for the arena idea.

Taking away pk\'ing is like taking away a little strand hair that got into the jelly donut.

\"Pk\'ing is a great idea face it?\" You must be pretty confident, so if you died everyday, oh yah your going to love pk\'ing. Of course its easy to say you like pk\'ing now then after your going to complaing how the pk\'ing rules are unfair. (Hypothetically)

If there were going to be pk\'ing, like always I say keep it an arena, colleseum, or have a guild war. And to be able to even apply to fight in the arena you need a liscense, and to get that liscense you need to do a quest, then you can go fight someone in the arena.

If there is pk\'ing implemented, I hope its so strict that the closest thing you could do to pk\'ing is fighting zombies or something.

Pk\'ing romps...
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Post by: tallimar on January 05, 2004, 01:40:05 am
kuiper i think that\'s just a little too extreme.  i think there should be pking in some form or another.  even though i dont take pleasure in pking and killspreeing, it does add a bit more depth to the game.  as for myself, i like some of the current ideas floating about such as arena combat, dueling and guild war, but i wouldnt like it to much beyond that.
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Post by: Icefalcon on January 05, 2004, 02:53:34 am
actually, i like that idea from FWO... just modify it a little. But im not for killing anyone anywhere. I think we need some sort of Arena or Wilderness.