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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Annah on November 02, 2003, 09:10:28 pm
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Hiya.
Yesterday a thing that I was only dreaming at ... happened. Aelya is back ... same as her guild - Dark Empire ... our friends ... our allies.
With this, the Dark Alliance is back! Black Order changed its alignment to its old one ... CHAOTIC EVIL.
Hmm ... what should I say more? Kada you have to update your news ... hehe ... the world domination has begun :P . And Aelya ... we should have a meeting to discuss some things and to help you in recruiting & advertising.
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Just curious, how are we gonna divide up the lands? Equal shares I hope.
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BO can have 0%
DE can have 0%
The Cabal can have 100%
Sounds fair 2 me. :D
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Hmm the Cabal you say? One of us could crush the Cabal let alone both of us together.
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OF course Aendar ... 50 % us ... 50 % you. And we will live in harmony :) ... as for the Cabal ... any of us could crush with one hand.
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*yawn*
Heard it before.
I suppose we\'ll find out in CB won\'t we. 8)
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-=Grins=- Yes...we will
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Of course we will see ... hmm ... you will see (if you will be able).
Aendar ... check your post.
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Check your pm
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yea, just blow away Cabal, and then let\'s make a real fight :D
Light Alliance vs Dark Alliance that is :D
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awww, u\'r making me feel small. :D
[regular evil quote]
We gonna kill u all. (Or take over, whatever\'s easier)
[/regular evil quote]
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[The following message has been made by Grakrim, the evil wizard; not Grakrim, the Master Ranger]
I really want to wish you guys good luck. The Old Dark Alliance was before my time, but I\'ve heard of it before. Its nice to see some more good ol\' fashioned evil in the world, none of this \"Cabal\" stuff (which isn\'t evil at all, in fact is \"Jerk\" aligned). If I wasn\'t one of the Master Rangers, I\'d probably join you guys in a second; but alas, I have to perform my evil deeds within a neutral guild, not that that\'s a bad thing. ;)
As a neutral Ranger, I couldn\'t care less if you crush most of the world, as long as you let us and our allies be.
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ya know me wonders in monketh the only good alined leader of rangers? news at 10
anyways i like to say welcome dark empire and as a side note atm cabal is stronger than both you and BO put together being as you both have 3 or so members but im sure that will change for dark empire at least ;)
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Strength has nothing to do with quantity Seperot.
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Originally posted by Annah
Hiya.
With this, the Dark Alliance is back! Black Order changed its alignment to its old one ... CHAOTIC EVIL.
Quite funny, actually, since I\'ve always percieved you as being Chaotic evil... that\'s the alignment group all creatures with cretinous intelligence go under... I\'m guessing that\'s not a coincidence...
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
Strength has nothing to do with quantity Seperot.
good point auran is most likly the only opponent you will have in cabal XD
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I\'m sure the stronger will be determined through the newer releases of PS.
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Hey, good luck on crushing your opposition Aelya and Annah...I\'m going to look forward to the fights that will be going on. :)
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Oooo we could sell tickets.....and t-shirts.
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Anyone need a bookie? :P
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I was doing pretty well with recruiting members before I put my guild to sleep. But now that true, ancient evil has re-awoken, I will build my armies once again. And all who oppose me wil be crushed.
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i applied.
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I dunno evan, ive heard some rather...untrustworthy things about you.
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accept for the fact i never gave the cabal any info. i never agreed to giving them info. and it is something they could get hard evidence for in a matter fo minutes if it existed. I have provided everything they wanted and thats all i can say.
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Originally posted by seperot
Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
Strength has nothing to do with quantity Seperot.
good point auran is most likly the only opponent you will have in cabal XD
and Xordan.
but so much for opponents...
\'/ignore auran\' \'/ignore xordan\'
there, Cabal destroyed :P ;)
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Ah Princess pay no mind to these warmongers and I\'ll make sure Xordan refrains from opposing you in the future. We don\'t want conflicts with you your Highness. We seek merely to survive under your mighty empire as your devoted servants. Don\'t get overly suspicious my lady. Its not becoming for one so Great and Graceful as you. Dont imagine traps where there are none or there might be some when you dont expect. We wish not any harm upon your person or of the person of those who follow you. We might or might not be capable but we certainly know better than to. Rest assured my princess we are not you enemies. So Princess I request that you call off your flunkies. They anger me madam, and though I would never dream of commiting a hostility against you your highness, anger does tend to blind and craze people. I therefore humbly request you that you save me from committing such a folly my lady, for it would pain me greatly if I caused a moment\'s anxiety to you.
I remain then
Your faithful servant
Auran.
To all Cabali:
Cease all hostilties immediately my brethren. We donot wish to trouble the Princess in any way now do we?
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And so once more the dark alliance graces these green lands. And I think to myself; ?How long before that which was once green shall be black. How long before the rivers run with blood.? The Mercenary Guild will not stand in your way... unless paid to do so.
Anyway I am hopeful that the dark alliance\'s return may herald the beginning of a conflict torn Yliakum; war = business.
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ah a princess, now that would come in handy, does this lady wish to join me in my crusade against all that is good and to make me dic......err leader ( gotta pay attention to what i say ).
you will live like a queen that will never have to stand up again.
/me thinks if she is under my spell i will have the world at my feet, GOD here i come to destroy you finally.
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I don\'t trust this Auran Aelya ... he is up to something. Ignore him. we can do everything without him.
Ah ... and Kada ...
7th May
2003 The Dark Empire Princess Aelya Lawful Evil -> this says in your site. But is 7th May 2002 :) ... and Change Black Order\'s alignment to Lawful Evil too :) I hope you will see it.
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ahh so jerk-aligned Cabal that has goal to take over the world and make slaves from everyone*, suddenly turns into Princess\' kitty, eh?
Now who do you want to fool, Auran? :P
* i know that Cabal changes every day :P so if this isn\'t your current goal: sorry :P
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I don\'t trust this Auran Aelya ... he is up to something. Ignore him. we can do everything without him.
Don\'t listen my princess. What do you have to fear of us? We could help. We are also servants of Darkness. Why bicker among ourselves while there is still a world of Idiot good guys to crush and take advantage of. Will you not allow us to lend you a helping hand?
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yea, don\'t care about opinion of one you trust :D :P
man Auran, you give me good laugh acting like that :P
Anyways, did i mention Cabal\'s goal is to destroy all guilds from inside? :P
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First of all, with the exclusion of Aelya and Annah, no one can tell us who we can and cannot accept to serve us. I don\'t even want to here opinions on who we should not allow into our alliance. Those we do accept we accept for a reason.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
First of all, with the exclusion of Aelya and Annah, no one can tell us who we can and cannot accept to serve us.
what do you mean?
noone said that you can or cannot accept anyone....
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We don\'t accept anyone in our alliance now. See ... I said it. Though we still have a free place left by Hellsing, but you have too prove for that. Check \"Dark Alliance Public Tasks\" for more details ...
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About what I have told ... The Cabal isn\'t on your list (so don\'t make plans you will enter DA).
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first of all, the cabal can lend us as much \"aid\" as they like. but they will NOT have anything to do with the DA, or the DE for that matter. Why? because I dont trust them. No one is going to immediately proclaim themselves servants of a guild they know NOTHING about without planning some sort of scheme. Just because your evil doesnt make you my ally on the spot.
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Originally posted by Annah
7th May 2003 The Dark Empire Princess Aelya Lawful Evil -> this says in your site. But is 7th May 2002 :) ...
Well spotted Annah, you are quite right - apologies for the little slip up and thanks for pointing that out ;)
(BO allignment changed as requested)
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Ok ... thanks princess.
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So all in all you are telling us that you have a free spot in your alliance, but you wont recruit... why tell us then?
people would be better off making their own alliance than doing menial tasks to suck up to you...
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The point was we don\'t want people asking to be let in. when we think a guild is worthy of being alligned we will ask them, if we believe a player is worthy they be allowed in. We don\'t want people begging and sucking up to us to get in.
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Well I see that you are immune to sucking up. That shows you are wise. Then let me be blunt........
There is this nagging little thing called \"obsolescence\" and well....... you are just that: OBSOLETE. I sucked up to you because I am beyond having an ego or morals and I don\'t mind falling at anyone\'s feet to get my way. But now let me get to the point:
You take the term \"servant\" too literally your highness. Let me clarify again that you still dont understand the extent of our power and the intensity of our taint. We don\'t want in on your little alliance princess. Why on earth would we want that? You have nothing to offer to us that we cant take. You are the past and now we have arrived. I just wanted to know if you would consider having a truce and agreement with us and in return we would aid you where we can. Don\'t fall victims to conceit. Don\'t think just because you ruled in the distant past that you hold power now. The scale of power has tipped princess and it has left you with a poor share. Take it from me unless you prefer to wait and find out, which, ofcourse, wont be pleasant. You have been replaced by something far more potent. Dont you see what apprehension we generate in the hearts of the people?(why I can assure you that some of them will try to distrupt these proceedings as well, so afraid are they of us and our rise) I don\'t want a conflict between us. What is the need when we have all these people to make suffer. But by refusing our offer you will leave us no choice but to carry out the sorry task of ensuring your downfall. I still ask you:Please reconsider your highness. Percieve the rationality of my words my princess. Believe me neither you nor any of these fools you surround yourself with have seen anything like The Cabal. You would not like us as enemies. And it would pain us to harm one so beautiful, graceful and wise as yourself.
We have no desire for glory. You are welcome to it. All we ask is your cooperation and assurance that you and your minions will not get in our way and we will promise that you shall go unmolested as long as this arrangement suits us. In return we offer to help you become Empress of this Realm if you allow us to be your advisors.
So to sum it up:
I propose an agreement where you can be the face of evil in the realms as long as you agree to let us be the High Mind.
These terms and other minutiea are ofcourse negotiable. Just don\'t listen to your flunkies and wait to find out our worth. It will not be enjoyable. I assure you if you decide favourably you will have no reason to regret it. On the Contrary..........
What do you say O fair one? Shall this not be so? I trust that you are wise and will do the right thing.
Hoping that I will never have to lift a finger against you,
Your humble servant and admirer
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Originally posted by Auran
I propose an agreement where you can be the face of evil in the realms as long as you agree to let us be the High Mind.
High Mind? shouldn\'t you do smart things then? ?(
i mean... you don\'t now...
and what makes you more powerful than the Dark Empire?
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WOOT yea go auran fight them wo..o..t?**realises he was claping auran and walks off quicky grumbleing and waving has hands around**
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Sounds to me like your threatening me and my guild saying \"ally or die\" sort of thing. You dont stand in my way and I dont stand in yours. its that simple. What do you have that we dont, other than more members? I assure you our numbers will grow once again. And if you think youve \"replaced\" us , youve got another thing coming. We are here once again, and as much the present as you are.
Your attempts at sounding intimidating are quite in vain, as we fear NO ONE. Nothing to offer you that you cant take? Just what exactly could you \"take\" that would be of any real use to you? Also you claim people fear you. I must dissagree, as it seems quite the opposite. They dont even take you seriously, let alone fear you.
The Dark Empire is still a lawful guild. We have reasons for our actions. That means if you do not oppose us you have nothing to worry about. If our goal is take control of a particular area, those who oppose would be dealt with accordingly. Those who do not oppose are left alone.
Why should I proclaim you my advisar\'s? Why should I even trust the cabal with such a position? I have advisars already, advisars that I have known awile and trust, that have proved to be an asset to my forces. The cabal however meet none of those conditions. So I ask again, why should I? And what gives me cause to trust you? What have you done for us? Absolutely nothing. All you have done is made pretty speeches filled with promises of brilliant minds by my side and loyalty to me. But you have DONE nothing.
Now, the choice is yours, cabal leader, accept our policies or not. stand in our way or go about your own business. You claim there should be no fighting between us. But your threats arnt the best way to ensure that no? What will it be? \"choose wisely\" as you would say.
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It seems Auran that you underestimate the DA. We\'ve been here for quite sometime and we have put up with people such as yourself on more than one occasion. We are still here and we will continue to be here for a long time. We don\'t need your help and your threats go on deaf ears.
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hmm, I actually fairly like u people. :D
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Should we feel honored?
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Nah, don\'t be.
Don\'t get in my way, and I won\'t get in yours. 8)
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I have no problem with that. But if our paths cross, then disputes will have to be settled.
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Pfft.....evil devouring evil rather a strange thing but none the less amusing
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We are not biased in our selection of destruction. We will destroy all who get in our way, it doesn\'t matter what alignment they are.
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Originally posted by seperot
Pfft.....evil devouring evil rather a strange thing but none the less amusing
actually happens all the time, Sep....
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.. \\o/ .. Auran. You finally made this public. To speak the truth I was really wondering when you will do it. I think Aelya cleared a part of the answer to your actions.
Let me finish ...
Ally or Die? Hehe, little kid ... we really destroyed guilds from the inside, how you dream to do it, or you claim you will do/did. And hacking wasn\'t involved. The Order of the Blade (TOB) was the first example. So, first let\'s speak like gentlemen, no threats, esspecially to us. You won\'t even know when Cabal will be vanquished, you will remain amazed in the front of your PC ... crying because you have a dream ... destroyed by your stupid actions. We were the past? You are the present?
Ha ... not really ... we were the past, I agree, but we are the present ... and we will be the future!
So, to speak the truth I am really not frightened by your words, more amused.
So, want an advice? Don\'t stay in our way kid. If you are willing to aid, good for you. You will only win. But, like Aelya said, you have no connection with DA.
I hope I made myself clear ... if not ... C\'est la vie :)
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Originally posted by Annah
The Order of the Blade (TOB) was the first example.
That was fun :D
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The Cabal crumble from the inside? That\'s a new one. I very much doubt that\'ll be the case. We\'re not weak enough and not strong enough for that to happen. And we\'re more organized thnx to the evanchild incident. :D
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Hehe, what you have just said Xordan really looks familiar. But I don\'t know why :/ ... ah ... I remember. TOB said the same :)
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Originally posted by Annah
Hehe, what you have just said Xordan really looks familiar. But I don\'t know why :/ ... ah ... I remember. TOB said the same :)
that was the worst done insult EVER
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They might have indeed, but, we learn from other peoples mistakes. U\'ll have to find another way into us.
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well... Princess seems to be wise person... i don\'t think she\'ll have any trouble in passing Cabal\'s \"shield\" :P
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:D
She got nothing 2 lose by trying.
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Yay! Evil fighting evil. Peace at l(e)ast!
*Lynx goes listening how the trees grow*
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Originally posted by Draklar
well... Princess seems to be wise person...
i aggree but i still wonder why she is allied to annah a **thinks of a nice way to say it** not so wise person
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To take advantage?
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The Black Order is one of the oldest guilds around and it\'s still here. There\'s a reason for that, good leadership on Annah\'s part.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
The Black Order is one of the oldest guilds around and it\'s still here. There\'s a reason for that, good leadership on Annah\'s part.
**falls on floor laughing**
OH....oh dear sweet **falls over again**
that was the best joke ever **sniff**
**giggels** annah.....a good leader **bursts out laughing again**
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Oh, come on seperot! Stop flaming incessently. Did Annah ever lead you? No? Then you can\'t tell how good of a leader he is(if he did...:)).
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again i do have to mention the \"how do you know that i dont know\" term
{edit} sorry linux i missed that
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I didn\'t say I know... that\'s why all possible inputs are processed(if u read carefully).
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The fact that you say he is not a good leader proves you know nothing about him. But you have to do something to make yourself feel better.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
The fact that you say he is not a good leader proves you know nothing about him. But you have to do something to make yourself feel better.
:rolleyes: ya sure i dont know.
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You know, I don\'t even think I\'ve heard you say anything positive yet. Seems all you can do is throw around immature and unjustified insults...
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first off im intresed to see how you think its immature
secondly if you may not have seen but my class is a rogue my job is info gathering amongst other things. so to say im unjustified in my statments is showing that you are unjustified yourself.
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Well... since you\'re interested in what could be considered immature...
The following quotes are regarding you:
\"The Black Order is one of the oldest guilds around and it\'s still here. There\'s a reason for that, good leadership on Annah\'s part. The fact that you say he is not a good leader proves you know nothing about him. But you have to do something to make yourself feel better. You know, I don\'t even think I\'ve heard you say anything positive yet. Seems all you can do is throw around immature and unjustified insults...\"
Note how all of this can be put together into a well-formatted, organized, and easy-to-read paragraph.
The following are quotes from you:
\"i aggree [that Princess Aelya is wise] but i still wonder why she is allied to annah a **thinks of a nice way to say it** not so wise person **falls on floor laughing** OH....oh dear sweet **falls over again** that was the best joke ever **sniff** **giggels** annah.....a good leader **bursts out laughing again**again i do have to mention the \"how do you know that i dont know\" term {edit} sorry linux i missed that ya sure i dont know. first off im intresed to see how you think its immature secondly if you may not have seen but my class is a rogue my job is info gathering amongst other things. so to say im unjustified in my statments is showing that you are unjustified yourself.\"
Obvious lack of flow, I admit, was through your constantly quoting and replying, but do you see when all is put together how juvenile and annoying it is compared to Aendar?
Now, please, Seperot. I\'m not being mean to you, but even a member of your own guild called you out on flaming. Some of us are actually interested in reading this thread and you\'re completely ruining it by turning it into a flame war.
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akk i know defeat and i take it
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I\'m curious as to how long that lasts...
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Very well it shall be as you will it princess. I will hate to have to do this to you but you leave me no other choice. It was never my intention to intimidate you but the truth can be intimidating sometimes.Infact that was one of my kindest posts in a long time. I didn\'t want evil eating evil but if thats the way you would like it I have care not to disagree. You live in conciet my princess and that is not good. We don\'t underestimate enemies nor allies hence our proposal to you. The fact that we have more members is inconsequential in the long run. We had the better minds while you had the better and more impressive warriors. T\'was an arrangement I felt we could both find rewarding. However you chose to ignore that, and maybe the blame lies partially with your abscence for a long period, I won\'t do anything more to change your mind. You vanquished TOB. Good for you. You might feel the need to constantly remind yourself of that and bask in its glory and I don\'t blame you either for doing that cause thats what most others do. All I\'ll say is we have taken over more than you could dream and the public is no wiser because we care not to make it known for we have no hunger for glory. If you think the taint is confined to the Cabal you are wrong. But more I cannot say. If you choose to disbelieve I cannot help nor would I. You chose your path and left me to follow mine. Still I would not go out of my way to make trouble for you. I would rather have you exist longer. We part ways and may it be long ere our trails cross again, which would be a sad thing. However remember that if you take but one step against us voluntarily retribution will come and it will be terrible.
As to your leaders.............. don\'t make me laugh. You had a guild and it crumbled or was eroded slowly. And you still think your leaders had it? Know that it takes more than common ideals and goals to form a guild. Look at Annah, a few antagonists and he posts to reassure himself that he has friends still. Fellows with such self confidence were not meant to lead. An excellent follower and a warrior maybe but never a leader.
But let that be. I have no wish to prolong this further. If you change your mind however let us know. We might consider if the proposition is then profitable.
I remain madam,
your servant
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Spoken like a true leader. All Hail!
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We are choosy with who we accept into our tust because we are wise. The DE has been back not even a week and you expect us to allow you in so soon. We are smarter than that, we won\'t waste our trust so easily and so hastily. We have yet to see any reason to trust you. Because you have more members? Because your evil? Because you will serve us? We need better reasons than those. Though we have few members, those members are very valuable, though you obviously do not see that. Begging will only get you lower on our list. I for one am not discreditting your leadership. You appear to be a very good leader. I will however discredit your members. It is all good and fine to have a leader pledge his loyalty to us but your members have done nothing of the like, in fact the exact opposite. But as I have said, it doesn\'t matter what you do the answer is still no because we are not ready to accept a new guild into our alliance.
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Good leadership is based on making good decisions for your guild. Auran is taking it in our best interest. This should NOT be taken as a weakness. And who are you to judge the credibility and valour of The Cabal\'s members?
Like you said... your guild has been inactive. What better way to catch up than by getting the information from a guild that is very much active?
I do not see your logic and your blind pride in the Dark Empire will be its second downfall.
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And accepting a guild just because they beg us to is not a good decision. My opinion on the Cabal\'s members is based solely on posts certain members have put up, some of which were directed to our guilds. And the guild itself has been inactive, not necessarily the members. And I am not saying the Cabal is weak. If another guild came and asked to be accpted into our alliance I would say the exact same thing. It\'s got nothing to do with them, it\'s the fact that we are not going to accept anyone so soon.
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Originally posted by Savion
Good leadership is based on making good decisions for your guild. Auran is taking it in our best interest. This should NOT be taken as a weakness. And who are you to judge the credibility and valour of The Cabal\'s members?
Like you said... your guild has been inactive. What better way to catch up than by getting the information from a guild that is very much active?
I do not see your logic and your blind pride in the Dark Empire will be its second downfall.
Hey no offence to guilds and their members, but are you really one to talk Savion? I have never seen you around here before and you act like you own the place. A little respect for your predecessors would be nice... Although both guilds are evil and not much respect is put into either of them anyway...
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Hey no offence to guilds and their members, but are you really one to talk Savion? I have never seen you around here before and you act like you own the place. A little respect for your predecessors would be nice... Although both guilds are evil and not much respect is put into either of them anyway...
I am not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult, but either way I was thinking the same thing. Some of us have been here for almost two years and we know what we are doing.[/COLOR]
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Savion isn\'t going to respect anyone, Cabal members are encouraged to come here and post nonsense just to anger people.
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From I\'ve seen that\'s true. Their leader pledges loyalty but we\'ve yet to see the same from any of their members.
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Loyalty is not just given. It is EARNED! I earned respect of Auron by watching how other guilds cower under his power.
You just came out of nowhere, said \"I\'m Back\" and you expect my respect? Pulease. Give me a reason to let you hame my respect. Then things may be different.
Oh ya dameon? Shut up.
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to Auran: It is you who live in conceit. You are the ones claiming to possess power beyond comprehenion, yet I nor anyone else for that matter sees it. Seems to me your all talk, trying to make people fear you. I and my guild are immune to such ploys. By taint, you imply that you can steal people away from me. Well, you are wrong. I run a secure guild here. And you did not intimidate me. But it was obvious you were trying to. Do not say you werent. I am not all that proud of having a part of TOB\'s undoing. They were very unstable. Any fool and their dog could have got rid of them. Really im curious, what have you taken over? Since you are so wise perhaps youd care to enlighten me. I dont care how logical your proposal is. It comes down to the simple fact that I have no cause to trust you. And I have heard a bit about what your guild does. Which doesnt help that. Would YOU be such a fool as to partner with a guild you know nothing of, but has the goal of \"harvesting information\" and \"destroying from the inside\" And you have no reason to trust them? I would most certainly hope you are a wiser leader than that.
to Savion: We never had a first downfall. We have simply been sleeping, unnoticed by most. And since most of my members became innactive, I got rid of them. I have no need for members that are never heard from or seen. Nor does any wise guild. I am talking in OUR best interest. And am making it quite clear that we do not trust a guild who is known for deceit and treachery. If the cabal wish to make allies, you may want to change the way your guild operates. Because right now, you are sending out the most obvious impression that you are not trustworthy. And I will not the mistake of ignoring that impression.
That is all I have to say for now.
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Yet you think that the Cabal\'s respect should be accepted by us without it being earned?
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Trust? You are running an evil guild and you are preaching about Trust??? Hey Auran, maybe their hasty refusal will turn out better for us in the long run after all.
What I am saying is that you left no chance in the first place.
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Although I was attempting to refrain from posting...
Let me make just one more comparison clear:
Dark Alliance\'s demand for respect --
They return, make a post that turns into a five-page thread within a matter of days, and are feared by people who do not even know them when one of their guilds is dead and one has three members. There is *something* powerful there that people are afraid of even though they don\'t know what.
Cabal\'s demand for respect --
One guy comes on and sucks up. He gets shot down. A member of his own guild laughs at him and disagrees publicly with his leadership policies. He sucks up again and more people shoot him down than before. Even people that have nothing to do with it tell him he has no chance. No one takes him seriously still. He makes an ultimatum with a subtle undertone of \"Are you sure you won\'t be my friend? Pretty please?\" and it is greeted nonchalantly by people who are not in the least bit intimidated by it.
So... how is this not the pot calling the kettle black? Other than the pot is wrong?
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Savion, it\'s Aur(a)n, you peanut
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Just because a guild is evil doesn\'t mean they do not trust anyone. Have you ever heard of honor amongst thieves? And Savion you are just another reason why we should not accept Auran\'s proposal.
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Well, let me put it this way. I trust Auran. If he trust you enough to merge, then I will. Until then, you are just another face in the croud to me.
And Kiern, don\'t mock me over one typo... unless you rule this world... which I have a feeling you don\'t!
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I think recent events can pretty much determine the answer to his proposal alone. Until things change, there will never be an alliance between us. I\'m amzed this hasn\'t sunk into the Cabali\'s heads yet as this thread is still getting longer.
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Hey, I get it... You arent accepting Anyone. Harrasment and stirring up people feelings and rage is just fun ;)
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Originally posted by Savion
Loyalty is not just given. It is EARNED! I earned respect of Auron by watching how other guilds cower under his power.
You just came out of nowhere, said \"I\'m Back\" and you expect my respect? Pulease. Give me a reason to let you hame my respect. Then things may be different.
We dont expect the respect of those who were not around when we were more active. Many who were around at the time know we are a well run guild and we know our stuff. Those are the people who respect us. The newer beings of the realm were not around to grow to respect us.
Yes loyalty IS earned, as well as trust. And the cabal have done nothing to earn our trust/loyalty. Perhaps your \"exalted\" leader should practice what you preach. I would be interested in knowing what guilds \"cower\" before the cabal. I would like to speak to those guild\'s leaders and get some information about that.
And who respects the cabal? Other than cabal members. Very few, from what ive seen. Most people around here dont even take you seriously. You are free to prove me wrong and introduce me to all the cabal admirers though.
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It\'s also not wise. But I take someone like you wouldn\'t care for reasons why and would simply ignore them.
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Look who is extending the post now? I was done... but the last post just gave me a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
Oh come now. People know the Cabal have spies. Everyone knows it. We arent taken seriously huh? Then what was that whole Evanchild thing I read about?
BTW, half the stuff you are saying is contradicting itself... do you know that?
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The Evanchild thing? The Evanchild thing was some small issue that Mirth blew out of proportion.
And I am not contradicting myself.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
The Evanchild thing? The Evanchild thing was some small issue that Mirth blew out of proportion.
And I am not contradicting myself.
I know... just had to get you mad one last time. It\'s my job you know.
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Originally posted by Savion
People know the Cabal have spies. Everyone knows it.
ROFL! What covert specialists!
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Random postings don\'t make me mad, they rarely even annoy me. I find that the poster does nothing but belittle themselves.
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If Auran had not came groveling as soon as we popped up, we may have shown a little respect for the cabal. Thus they would have the chance to earn our trust and respect. Think before you act. He could have simply greeted us and welcomed us back, rather than give us the impression that they were up to something, giving us cause NOT to trust them.
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I act under the basis of my leader. He saw opportunity and siezed it. You saw it as an act of weakness. He saw possibilities. Don\'t blind yourself with pride or you miss the outsite world.
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So you say we should accept a guild just because they come begging us to be accepted? That\'s not pride Savion.
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He offered an alliance that would benefit both and make the circle complete. Why can\'t you people see that? Oh I forgot, the whole blind with pride issue. So be it.
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So your saying you would accept that proposition without a second thought, knowing the guild is known for treachery and deceit, knowing that its just a little odd that they want to make allies as soon as a guild pops up and might prove to be competition? You would be very foolish to take that action. As I said, if the cabal want to make allies, they need to change the way they operate. And we are not blinded by pride, we simply have no reason to trust you, especially with the way youve been acting. And we think about the consequences that may come along with allying a guild known for backstabbing and such. And honestly, I am not willing to take the risk.
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Ok time to put my 2 cents in again.
Savion, you like that whole \"blind with your pride\" thing don\'t you? It gets a little old. Find some new material.
Second of all... this thread is way too long so let me sum it up and let it be the end.
*To The Cabal*
DE is lot looking for an alliance. Give up.
*To DE*
I have to agree with Savion (man I can\'t believe I said that) that you are kind of looking at the thing from one angle... but that is just my opinion.
either way it does not matter... people it is just a game.
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Yes its just a game, and we are enjoying ourselves by arguing about this. :)
Yes you are correct, we do look at it from opposite angles. We are a guild that thinks of what may happen in the future. The Cabal is a guild that will rush into something blindly thinking they have everything under control without really thinking about it. But I am sure they would word it differently.
The angle we look at it in, is the angle that over rules any other angle it could be viewed in. its that simple. Which angle is the better way of looking at it? Well thats a never ending debate, as that is totally based on opinion. And its obvious the cabal have different views than we do.
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
So your saying you would accept that proposition without a second thought, knowing the guild is known for treachery and deceit, knowing that its just a little odd that they want to make allies as soon as a guild pops up and might prove to be competition? You would be very foolish to take that action. As I said, if the cabal want to make allies, they need to change the way they operate. And we are not blinded by pride, we simply have no reason to trust you, especially with the way youve been acting. And we think about the consequences that may come along with allying a guild known for backstabbing and such. And honestly, I am not willing to take the risk.
So its either \" Do or don\'t\" huh Aelya? no shades of grey? Just \"Well, the Cabal backstab, so I say no\".
Learn a little thing called consideration... and think before you turn away.
BTW, nothing against DE. IF the cabal and DE come together or not, I could care less. I follow Auran.
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ok, to make something straight:
Auran is not a good leader, i even posted reasons why and what did i get in return? a bunch of insults that weren\'t making any sense :P
This place is only one where Auran is acting like that, normally he\'s kinda like Xordan :P
He\'s acting unlike Cabal should act, and all this was started by himself, obviously not contacting his fellow councils.
So i say Auran is far from being a good leader.
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\"that was the worst done insult EVER\"
Seperot ... I wasn\'t insulting you know. But everything I say, at you is an insult. Don\'t you get it? You\'re the only who see those thing. I think the time when you should stop acting like a kid has come. And is very true you don\'t even know me, so stop judging me. You know nothing about me ...
I am a bad leader? Hmm ... don\'t think so. The guild is here since 2001 ... so this proves something. And about my leading skills, I am a PR Leader for a long time ...
And yes ... you\'re acting childish!
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Originally posted by Savion
So its either \" Do or don\'t\" huh Aelya? no shades of grey? Just \"Well, the Cabal backstab, so I say no\".
Learn a little thing called consideration... and think before you turn away.
You dont think I thought about it? Well I did. But it didnt take long to realise that the cabal are simply not trustworthy. When I look for allies, I look for guilds that I know will support me. Guilds that I know arnt going to stab me in the back. Guilds that I believe will be trustworthy allies. Guilds that have a sense of honor, and not known for betrayal. Part of being lawful evil is having a sense of honor amongst your own people. And since the cabal are known for things that are dishonorable,(like backstabbing, spying, internal disruption, etc.) a lawful evil guild will by nature, not trust them. Do you understand our views now??
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annah just one simpel thing i am not the only one who thinks these things far from it actually.
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Ah my Princess. You are too suspicious. However that is something I would have thought too in your place so I don\'t blame you (although I would have tackled this differently in your position). Your suspicions are based on the public opinion. That public which itself knows precious little about us. They don\'t know what we are doing, they don\'t know what we intend, they dont know whom we have corrupted....need I go on. They know what we want them to know which more often than not isn\'t the reality. On the contary I appreciate your worth perfectly. I don\'t need very long to judge the potential of things. That is exactly why I approached you first and I didn\'t mind it at all. If something is beneficial it is not for me to pass it by on account of my pride. I have outgrown the need for pride to provide me with motivation or confidence.
You think we are treacherous and backstabbing and I don\'t deny that. But we are not compulsively treacherous. We do things when we deem them profitable. And I approached you only because we thought there was profit to be had by taking you with us. You would have been an added asset to the Cabal but dont think you are a necessity for us. It just looked profitable thats all. Kinda like those little sprinkles on donuts. Would like em, but don\'t really need em. I don\'t care anymore. You have made your decision and now we\'ll see what we have to do. I was just hoping that we wouldn\'t have to take to task some of our own kind while there was such good picking to be had together. We wanted this to be a symbiosis but if it is parasites you prefer then so be it.
Also if you want to wait for us to prove our worth then you have a very long wait before you. I cannot help if your appraisal skills leave much to be desired. We are not exactly high visibility people. We much prefer to remain hidden for we have no egoes to appease. We seek only to spread our corruption. That is also why I wont be able to inform you about the ones we have absorbed. You are not yet worth that much to us. We prefer the people not know. The only thing I can point out is look at the length of this thread. Do you really think it would have reached this point so soon had we not touched it. Judge the potency of our taint then. Say what you will I cannot give more proof nor do I care. I donot have a ego you can hurt nor a thirst for self glorification which needs quenching. Yes honor and trust you shouldn\'t expect from us. We are not honourable nor trusting. We are intellects. We don\'t need stumbling stones like Honor or Trust in our path to success. As long as the council thinks something gainful, it\'ll stay umolested. More should not be expected. Why would we want to carry deadwood?
About Cabal members being hostile all I can say is they act as Cabal members act normally. They dont have direct orders from the council to act either way. Once they have they\'ll follow (and they will have reasons to follow). Right now they are free to be nice or harsh. They will only change when they are asked to by the Council. And for my leadership skills I would rather not say anything. I have said this before and say it again: I do not possess the temerity to judge myself. All I do is what the council asks me to. And though have a voice in it I am by no means the supreme authority. However our unity and unanimity are our strengths.We are THE CABAL.
If you do change your mind someday, inform us. We will gladly have you if we think you are still worth it.
Draklar the only reason you have never seen me act seriously on any other thread or in replies to you is because neither they nor you are worth it. I don\'t mean to dampen your spirit. You are a nice kid who tries his best, but to be considered seriously by me you\'ll have to be a bit more mature mentally. I talked to the DE because I thought them worth it. I joke with you because thats what I feel you are worth. There is a lot you dont know yet my young friend.
Very well then. I\'ll take my leave of you My princess. You don\'t deem me fit to be my queen and it is not for me to press my attentions. Farewell beautiful one. I did not want us to part like this, but if it is not your will, there is nought to be said. You were good, princess. Then we arrived......
Your humble servant
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Originally posted by Auran
Draklar the only reason you have never seen me act seriously on any other thread or in replies to you is because neither they nor you are worth it. I don\'t mean to dampen your spirit. You are a nice kid who tries his best, but to be considered seriously by me you\'ll have to be a bit more mature mentally. I talked to the DE because I thought them worth it. I joke with you because thats what I feel you are worth. There is a lot you dont know yet my young friend.
I must say... high charisma indeed... you might be better leader than i thought, still... foolish words you have spoken...
You say DE thread is only one you find worth enough to be serious. May i ask you what did you found worth enough in the first place? Thing that they are old guild, or that their leader is Princess? They are wise indeed, but you couldn\'t tell that in the beginning...
Another question is why aren\'t you acting serious on Cabal threads... is it because you don\'t find it worthy?
I can clearly tell that from what you said...
oh, and you joke with me because i am worth it, eh? But what about times when you aren\'t joking? when you just state your opinion? I can easly prove you are wrong... still you won\'t admit it, as you are too stubborn. It is then when you have nothing better to do, but post something that won\'t make any sense.
So you may have bigger knowledge than me, i don\'t care... Inteligence is what i seek for, as knowledge is useless, when you don\'t know how to use it.
\"They dont have direct orders from the council to act either way\"
heh... so Xordan isn\'t in council? :P
anyways you say it works like that:
Council sets one thing, members do what they want, right? :P
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Due to the length of that post I thought maybe I could pickup the highlights and simplify it.
\"That public which itself knows precious little about us. They don\'t know what we are doing, they don\'t know what we intend, they dont know whom we have corrupted....\"
Basically this is to say the Cabal have done nothing worthy of public notice.
\"It just looked profitable thats all. Kinda like those little sprinkles on donuts.\"
Not to be picky here, but that was truly an awful analogy.
\"Also if you want to wait for us to prove our worth then you have a very long wait before you.\"
Straight from the horse\'s mouth.
\"We are not exactly high visibility people.\"
Calling themselves the CABAL (deceivers), a band of flaming posters with huge images on their sigs describing them as members and \"corrupters\" go around posting about \"the taint\" of their very secret guild. OK, I think I\'m with ya here.
\"You are not yet worth that much to us.\"
Sheesh... coulda fooled me.
\"The only thing I can point out is look at the length of this thread.\"
Exactly! See above point.
\"Do you really think it would have reached this point so soon had we not touched it? Judge the potency of our taint then.\"
So... the \"taint\" is running a thread into the ground by begging to be accepted?
\"I donot have a ego you can hurt nor a thirst for self glorification which needs quenching.\"
I beg to differ. For my first witness, I call all of your posts in this thread.
\"We are not honourable nor trusting. We are intellects. We don\'t need stumbling stones like Honor or Trust in our path to success...About Cabal members being hostile all I can say is they act as Cabal members act normally...They will only change when they are asked to by the Council.\"
Read: We have a disorganized and untrustworthy guild.
\"...it is not for me to press my attentions.\"
Raise your hand if you believe that one!
Wow, I was right! That post *does* get more readable when you take out all the sucking up and preaching and you only leave the contradictions!
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Yay! Our very own Blood war. Chaotic evils against Lawful ones! :)
Tranquility on horizon.
*Lynx goes to sleep on a tree*
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Exactly, those long posts filled with wise words are just a trick. This time not rogue one, but also needs charisma, not really inteligence. This way you can fool even a good rogue *looks at Seperot* :D
oh, and thanks for reminding me, Lynx :D
today\'s change in cabal: switching from neutral-evil to chaotic-evil :P
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Another day another dollar. Back to the chase.
Hey, I, personally, am chaotic evil but that is besides the point. Either chaotic, neutral, lawful, whatever. It is still evil. No matter how good is aligned, they are always classified as one. Why not the same with evil?
NOT MAKING SENSE PEOPLE!
How can you people not see the leadership qualities baffles me. Look. I choose not to show intelligence. You show a person one thing so they do not expect the true way of your thoughts. That is how true genious is shown.
Underestimating... its sad. I wish DE the best of luck in its revival... but it won\'t happen. Your views are going to take you down. You innability to cope and accept change, or sieze oppotunity... you non-flexibility will be your doom.
I HATE EVERYONE!
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Hey, you complain about non-flexibility and yet you show none?
You are the pone not making sense Savion.
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Originally posted by Savion
How can you people not see the leadership qualities baffles me. Look. I choose not to show intelligence. You show a person one thing so they do not expect the true way of your thoughts. That is how true genious is shown.
yea, that was good example of showing low inteligence :P
i mean \"That is how true genious is shown.\"
like how?
showing that you are an idiot to the whole community?
getting less members because the leader seems to be worthless?
is there anything smart in that?
so yea, like i said: good example :P
Originally posted by Savion
Hey, I, personally, am chaotic evil but that is besides the point. Either chaotic, neutral, lawful, whatever. It is still evil. No matter how good is aligned, they are always classified as one. Why not the same with evil?
NOT MAKING SENSE PEOPLE!
ok, why did you shout to all people around that you aren\'t making sense? :D ;)
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Dameon, what in the heck is pone? I am the Pone not making sense?
BTW, I thought I told you to shut up.
Darklar, just wait and see how genious I can be. Ok, this thread is boring me. I\'m moving on.
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one, probably one. ::)
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To Auran:
My opinion of you is not based on public opinion and it is my belief that 90% of the forum users here aren\'t worth listening to in the first place. My opinion is based on what I have seen of your members for one. I can understand a leader not controlling every aspect of their lives but when you r members come to our post and start insulting us that is a sign that either you don\'t care or you can\'t do anything about it. Both bad signs. Second, you are a new guild, a guild we nothing about. Because of that we have to be cautious. That is the wise thing to do. Our view may change in time, but keep in mind this has nothing to do with what allignment your guild is or even you. It\'s the fact that you wait only one day after our return to want to join the alliance. If it were any other guild the seem caution would be used.
To Savion:
When your opinion counts, we\'ll ask for it. So far you have done nothing but confirm the public\'s accusations of the Cabal and if you had any sense you would change that, as it is not helping your guild.
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A little tip:
Democracy always triumphs, Having 1 ruler with complete power never does(Depotism). We all have our opinions, we all say them. U will fall if u\'r leader does, the Cabal will never die as long as 1 of us is standing.
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What if there\'s a great leader?
but more I\'d like to know what was that reply to :P
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A great leader? hmm, I suppose it would be possible, but still, he/she would have to be very good to keep tabs on the whole guild. With a group, it\'s much easier, and less chance of corruption. But u are right there, it is possible, just unlikely.
And It was sorta in reply to Aendar, just pointing out that Auran isn\'t our leader, and that Auran doesn\'t decide what people in our guild have to think and say. :D
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Originally posted by Savion
Underestimating... its sad. I wish DE the best of luck in its revival... but it won\'t happen. Your views are going to take you down. You innability to cope and accept change, or sieze oppotunity... you non-flexibility will be your doom.
i must object. We have always had these views, and were always successful. And we will be succesful again. Yes I will ceize the oppurtunity to get buddy buddy with a guild that is untrustworthy and could backstab us in the future. Yea that makes PLENTY of sense. (sarcasm)
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lol, U\'ll be surprised how many times people will do it though. :D But u\'r right in being wary. I would.
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to Xordan: Also, the DE is not a depotism ran guild. Yes I hold the highest authority, but I am totally open to good suggestions and am not afraid to use a suggestion from someone of lower rank. As part of the dark alliance, we work with other guilds in the dark alliance to better all of us. In the DE every last one of my members is welcome to voice their opinion on any matter, regardless of rank. And I take ALL suggestions into consideration, considering these suggestions are backed up with wise reasoning and logic.
to Auran: im a kid now am i? I must be some kid, since I have ran this guild for over a year. In fact, I see you as more of a child then many people on this board. And do not think our numbers will remain small. Most of my old members have been invited to rejoin, and I am awaiting replies from those that are interested. Not only that, we do accept new members. But right now it is invite only. Perhaps that policy will change soon though. Also, you claim you have no ego. I dissagree. You believe you hold some kind of ultimate power just because you have at least 6 threads full of spam by your cabal members, and because you have more members. Member count right now is absolutely meaningless. It is going to be a long time before planeshift becomes what we are all waiting for. So there will be plenty of time for losing and gaining members. Anything can happen, and only fate knows the future.
to Yarulion: Your last post actually made sense. I am glad I am not the only one who can see through Auran\'s fancy speeches. Though I must add something to one point. This thread wouldnt have gotten this far without DE either. In fact, we contributed to this thread even more so than the cabal, seeing as it wouldnt even exist had I decided not to make ourselves known to the public once again.
Thank you and good night.
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To Xordan:
As I said I do not expect to control how you act but when the leader pledges loyalty, yet all the members speak out against us how can you expect us to accept? All I have heard is how we are unwise to accept the proposal, but it is the complete opposite. It would be unwise to accept a guild whose only member who respects us is the leader. If that seems unfair so be it, but that is how I feel. We are looking for a strong guild that will support the other guild. Aelya doesn\'t control what I do but if she makes a decision I trust her on that and will respect that. Auran has to have some control over his members or else he really isn\'t a leader. He is just another member.
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And as the wise mage has pointed out, a healthy amount of leadership and authority is needed to keep things organized and members under control. the cabal appears both unorganized and out of control.
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
the cabal appears both unorganized and out of control.
Aren\'t this specifications of Chaotic? Isn\'t it to be expected?
I understand you, but it\'s still a curious detail.
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Chaotic evil is simply the alignment. It\'s the degree of evil. Simply it means they will destroy anything that gets in their way, not that they are completely unorganized.
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You misunderestimated me. :)
It wasn\'t a question.
It\'s really gonna be a Blood war!
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Maybe u should read my post. Auran isn\'t our leader. :D
Oh, and I didn\'t expect u to accept. I couldn\'t really care less whether we joined u or not.
And I\'m glad u\'r not a depot guild, they boring and easy to conquer.
The Cabal appears both unorganized and out of control? If u really think so then u arn\'t a good leader.
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Hmm I was under the impression he was your leader, but if that isn\'t so then I apologize. Looking back isn\'t it a council run guild? If so then the same argument applies really. The governing body, or part of it, does one thing and the members, or other parts of the governing body, do the exact opposite.
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Xordan and Auran are the closest we have to a leader. The true leader has not yet come... but I think the council has done a great job in the meantime.
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but auran is the person that gets the most people in the guild and has the biggest vote, everybody in the guild listenes to him.
and he was the leader when he was alone until the other bum came along and ruined it all for him.
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um, our council isn\'t just us 2 u know. We have other council members, they just busy doing our secret stuff. :D
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in my opinion the counsil members should be exposed to the outside to let people know who are running the guild.
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Why would we want that?? Good thing u\'r not in the Cabal.....
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Personally I think as long as people know that it is a council running the guild and having at least a few members of it visible is enough.
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well then give a number so you can have an idea because you can\'t tell if the counsil is doing any good by seeing two members acting as they own it........
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well, yeah. But think of the other sides. They\'de be exposed. It\'s like knowing the exact no. of gnolls you\'ll have to kill... no fun. ;)
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ohw ell some day i will give someone who spies in guilds cash and i will know how many hippies to kill ;)
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ok, reading all this post and considering Cabals weren\'t just making lies, this is how it looks olike:
Council (Xordan, Auran and whoever else) decided to try to get alliance with DE. Next thing Xordan did (and again - he\'s council member) was trying to get into fight with DE. Anyone sees any organisation in that? :P
oh, and good to see that there are people that can see thru Auran\'s speeches :))
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speeches, they are more good to go to bed and falling asleep lectures about how nature works.
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Aendar ... don\'t bother. Cabal is just one of the dozens new guilds, time will take care of it. We should focus DE & BO restructuration. btw ... talk with Aelya, I have almost 10 members for you, and more will come.
You were speaking here about respect, that is earned. Kids, we were here for 2 years, believe me we\'ve earned it. If you are too young here, time will pass ... you will sure earn it too.
As for seperot, I am talking you for a million time ... peace? Wolfmane was a pain the **** when I first saw him ... but now we\'re friends. Why you really have to be different?
Ah ... Saturday ... be on! Then we will see which BO member is active. I will anounce all my member. Beware the invasion ... hehe.
I hope this is all, for now.
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That is good to hear annah.
Now the cabal claim Auran is not their leader, but is a council run guild. Heres a couple quotes by some cabal members reffering to Auran: \"Spoken like a true leader. All hail!\" \"Everyone listens to Auran and he has brought the most members. They all see him as a leader\"
my conclusion: wow hey, you coulda fooled me there. But then again isnt that where your power lies?:P That sounds like most cabal members worship the ground Auran walks on. Also Auran seems to be doing most of the talking for the cabal, as if he was their prime represenative. Also a leader quality. He may as well be the leader, since he seems to be calling the shots and everyone supposebly follows him. (even though Auran is the only cabal not trying to pick a fight :rolleyes: )
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*BOWS*
Salutations my princess. Please forgive me if I offended you in any way inadvertently. I would never say something to hurt you knowingly. So understand that I wasn\'t reffering to you when I said \"KID\" madam. But I repent that any misunderstanding arising out of my lack of clarity has caused you distress. Also know that I am not polite to you just because you lead the DE. Although that is a commendable accomplishment, I am generally this polite to the fair sex unless I say something unknowingly. Any of the lovely ladies we have here on the forums will confirm what I say:). Moreover in your case I could not bear to be impolite to one of such paramount beauty and infinite Grace. So I ask forgiveness once again your highness.
Aside of that I have no qualms about killing you or anyone else, although in your case I would prefer find a way round it. \"Prefer\". A preference is not a neccessity however. But I hope I wont have a situation which requires me to differentiate between the two, both for your sake and mine.
About the Cabal leadership:
I am not their leader. I am but a humble official. A servant of the council. I am grateful if someone considers me a good leader but on my own part, it should be understood, I make no such claim. I obey and follow the council. It may however be that the council appears to you, to move in strange and chaotic ways. For that I offer no clarification. It is not my onus to make you undestand, indeed the council prefers that you don\'t.
And If you do notice me more than Xordan is because he isn\'t engaged in activities meant to be visible at the moment. He is a member any guild would kill to have. Indeed such can be said of most of the Cabal. But if you care to disagree i am not inclined to make you change your perception.
I have said what I have said. The corruption shall prevail.
We are THE CABAL
Farewell my Princess.
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Hey everyone. Do you think I should write my own story like the moogle? Would anyone be interested in reading crap like that?(:P.
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Hey, Write away. I will be glad to critique it ;)
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Originally posted by Auran
He is a member any guild would kill to have. Indeed such can be said of most of the Cabal.
Heh... you really believe so? :P :D
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Originally posted by Annah
Aendar ... don\'t bother. Cabal is just one of the dozens new guilds, time will take care of it. We should focus DE & BO restructuration. btw ... talk with Aelya, I have almost 10 members for you, and more will come.
You were speaking here about respect, that is earned. Kids, we were here for 2 years, believe me we\'ve earned it. If you are too young here, time will pass ... you will sure earn it too.
As for seperot, I am talking you for a million time ... peace? Wolfmane was a pain the **** when I first saw him ... but now we\'re friends.
You and your oldbie pride... :rolleyes: take it and stuff it up your ****
:P
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All you need is loyalty to be a good guild member. Good or evil, loyalty is what counts.
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Originally posted by Savion
All you need is loyalty to be a good guild member. Good or evil, loyalty is what counts.
Loyality isn\'t that rare to kill just to get member like that :rolleyes:
i see good member in someone that is loyal, wise, dedicated to guild.
i don\'t know how any of Cabals would go under \"wise\" thing :rolleyes:
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There are many forms of wisdom.... and from what I can see, you possess none of those forms. What a waste.
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Originally posted by Savion
There are many forms of wisdom.... and from what I can see, you possess none of those forms. What a waste.
well i don\'t care about what you think neither what you say.
But this is off topic, let\'s stop this discussion, k?
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Ok I guess I can do you that one favor... But Don\'t Get Used To It!
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well, I have to agree with savion. Wisdom isn\'t soo easy depictable and reckognized(as in found).
But savion, as the only non-council member in this debate, \'twas you who deteriorated your situation, \'twas you who aendar always mentions(as I see it) as a counter-to-council-flow cabali.
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That is just because I am so great... or just really outspoken. either way. Doesnt matter to me. I do my part.
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Originally posted by Xalthar
Originally posted by Annah
Aendar ... don\'t bother. Cabal is just one of the dozens new guilds, time will take care of it. We should focus DE & BO restructuration. btw ... talk with Aelya, I have almost 10 members for you, and more will come.
You were speaking here about respect, that is earned. Kids, we were here for 2 years, believe me we\'ve earned it. If you are too young here, time will pass ... you will sure earn it too.
As for seperot, I am talking you for a million time ... peace? Wolfmane was a pain the **** when I first saw him ... but now we\'re friends.
You and your oldbie pride... :rolleyes: take it and stuff it up your ****
:P
i chouldent have put it better
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Originally posted by Auran
Aside of that I have no qualms about killing you or anyone else, although in your case I would prefer find a way round it. \"Prefer\". A preference is not a neccessity however. But I hope I wont have a situation which requires me to differentiate between the two, both for your sake and mine.
You know, I could say those very exact words to you. Except for the \"I prefer to find away around it in your case\" thing. If you dont want any quarrels with us, then I suggest you, or the council of the cabal learn to keep their members under control and cease their incessant flaming.
You say you dont want any trouble, well your members are pushing it. If you cannot control them, then perhaps someone who can should intervene.
And on another note: To whom it may concern, would you people LAY OFF ANNAH FOR 10 FREAKING MINUTES?! All I hear people like seperot do is post insult after insult after insult. That is just the way annah is, get used to it and drop it! Post something positive for a change!
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psch i was semi-positive, you = good for business = :tup:
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They need someone to pick on to make up for their lack of self-esteem. Let\'s not forget that we\'re daling with immature kids here.
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ok aendar keep banging on about it it works real well around here ask kieran he says it all the time and he get tons of respect around here [/sarcasem]
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So we are supposed to change because a bunch of kids have no manners. No sorry, I don\'t think that will happen. We\'ve been here a long time junior and we earned that much.
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i dident say that i sayed calling us kids wont get you anywhere thats all
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Ah well I appreciate your opinion junior and I will think it over.
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heh... that\'s so childish :)
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In case you haven\'t noticed everything that\'s been posted in this thread has been childish...
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Acually u carry on the subject as well, and half the time start new ones. U insult us, u can\'t expect us to just sit here and say nothing.
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yea, it\'s mostly like that:
Auran: *crawls in the stage like a worm* i want to be your servant, please accept me princess
Princess: we don\'t trust you, go away
Aendar: you have to earn our trust to be accepted
Xordan: we will destroy you!
Other People: *makes fun of Auran*
Auran: everyone is afraid of us, you need us!
Princess: no we don\'t
Aendar: we don\'t trust you, go away
Auran: we give you the last chance, let us be your servants!
Aendar: no!
Auran: this is your last chance, let us be your mastermind!
Princess: no way!
Auran: ok, fine, i still hope we won\'t fight with each other... oh, and btw: you are weaklings, please let us be your allies.
Aendar: you aren\'t strong nor trustworthy enough to be our allies.
Auran: fine, but let us be your allies!
or something like that ;)
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U could have made my part a tiny bit longer u know. ;)
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Yeah and I said some other pointless stuff too.
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Originally posted by seperot
ask kieran he says it all the time and he get tons of respect around here [/sarcasem]
I\'ve never called anyone a little kid that was not a little kid (although I don\'t remember saying it at all?)...I much prefer idiot and peanut.
And I have as much respect as I want from people such as yourself. (none, if you did not understand that)
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I\'ve always preferred peanut myself, Kiern. And I find your posts entertaining :P
Between you randomly pointing out the new peaks of stupidity and Draklar poking fun at the Cabal I end up staying here all day watching the thread and laughing.
Draklar - good summary, btw
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bah! i thought it was you sorry kiern
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hah, pissing ignorants off (sorry kiern :P) is about the most entertaining thing to do around here... so you whining about it just makes it more interessting to observe what happens next.. Call me childish :baby:, but your bickering takes the lead..... :rolleyes:
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Call me childish
Your childish.[/COLOR]
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thank you, for proving my point
but your bickering takes the lead.....
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You asked me to call you childish....
Oh and Mogura....could you?
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that I did, in order to prove you to be the lesser man... which I think you have shown to be the truth more than once...