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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Princess Aelya on March 06, 2002, 07:47:49 pm
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hehe...i think you should be able to get married! like have a priest,monk,or evil monk or evil priest, to wed two people in holy or unholy matrimony. and of course being married will have advantages such as...when the \"couple\" are near each other they have certain combat or skill enhancements like increased HP,MP, streanth,dexterity, etc. though on a second thought some people may get married simply to have these advantages. any suggestions to improve my idea would be nice.
PS: im not just posting this cuz i love meket so much :D
but im sure he will support my idea :D
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This idea sux big rocks.
Eat beans and cheese.
Naw it is a Nice idea.About marriages they help bring a bit of community to the world.Neighbors meet and interact.If done right it makes for quite the event.With a procession and people all gathered around.
It makes the world come alive in different ways than just going out adventuring really when the couple or couples that are being wedded are known in some way.Or not small weddings are good too just a few friends and family members.
This kind of a thing adds to the world as then family\'s are made.New characters might become sons and daughters of the couple.
Also it gives clergymen priests something to do besides raise people from the dead heal them and other such stuff.
Hmm I could maybe see an added bonus in dire situations but how that might be figured in i cannot say at this moment.
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I agree with you entirely. Perhaps until the proper authorities have been installed, tavern owners should be granted special powers ;) - like a captain of a ship being able to marry people at sea. It sounds right to me, you wouldn\'t have far to go to have a celebratory drink anyway :D
I was thinking exactly the same thing about partners and stat modifiers, but taking it a tiny bit further. You could extend the idea and have a number of people who affect your life and stats in many different ways. Perhaps being with a marriage partner would increase your charisma and endurance. But to balance this, their death would have disastrous results. Maybe you could nominate people for other roles e.g.
Brother/sister in arms - when together you fight as one resulting in dexterity and combat stat increases.
Mortal enemy - If you see this person in the area perhaps wisdom and charisma would be reduced as all you can think about is the demise of this person, as a consequence perhaps your strength could increase with your rage.
I\'m sure their are many other examples that can be used: love rivals, clan rivals, clan leaders, criminals, heros etc. Of course you would have to restrict this somehow to stop people being able to change these whenever they want just to have an advantage in a certain situation.
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yea thats a good idea kada. i want more feedback!
lenric...if i ate cheese and beans id be farting all day! and when diabolis fart....well lets just say many things tend to scorch up in flames and also the surrounding air tends to get polluted and intoxicated with a foul stench...
Which leads me to another idea! how about a farting attack that only u could do after eating cheese or beans? it would reduce your enemies concentration thus reducing the chances there attacks will hit you! :D (yes its a sick,but humerous idea :D )
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So are you Saying Kada-El
something like this.
You choose for a time being who is who on a list.
Now this list can be changed after a certain amount of time.In some way I think this would need to be implemented due to people leaving dying whatever or becoming friends perhaps.
Brother/Sister in arms. Like 2 to 8 of these thier your guild adventuring companion\'s.
Brother?sister in arms.
Brother/Sister in arms.
Husband/Bride or wife (I always liked the idea of when and If I ever get married instead of my wife she is my bride hehe nevermind)
Arch enemy.
Racial enemy.
Anyways a list could be made that you choose a certain group of people .Now when these people are in your general area plus or minus are added to certain factors .Not to much and in the case of Brother and Sister in arms a limit.
Interesting. I like the idea but still needs a bit of work.
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Well i dont know you might be fighting the Kran with this attack I believe they were talking about it before.
http://www.planeshift3d.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=334&boardid=11&styleid=2
Theres the thread.
But of course Diaboli dont eat beans and cheese.They dont like Holy items.
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lmao since when are beans and cheese holy items? *slaps Lenric around a bit with a large trout* beans and cheese are food not holy items! :P
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how about guild enemies too, Lenric, like ones the guild leader(s) could edit and all members could see.
Anyway I hope we\'ll have marriage. I\'d love to see Last Names implemented too :D
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well if we can get married I wouldn\'t marry a Diaboli, Yuk!!!
I\'d marry a female demorian ;)
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hmph...i suppose shredder is saying im ugly. he has no taste at all! :D
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hehe ShredderX, just make sure it IS a female first :D
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Thats a great Idea whitti do you mean such as people or creatures.LIke were the enemys of this guild and that what about secretive guilds that wish to remain nameless alot of power in names.
And Aelya how would you know if beans and cheese are holy or not you .. you heathen Diaboli :P
Beware the power of cheese some have heard
They didnt know anything about the Beans I was packing evil beware
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Hey Shredder how do you think diaboli were created
Dont look at me I didnt do it.
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ive eaten beans and cheese many times before and i find them quite enjoyable! there is no such think as holy food you silly goof! i told you to stop drinking so much in kadas BBB... thats why your ramblng like that :D
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Heh, good advice whitti... I\'ll remember that ;)
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Lenric: as said on the main page \'They may have been from another harsh planet\' they werent created
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Hmm obviously you have never heard about beans being the magical fruit that makes you toot.
Youve eaten these many times perhaps in a fashion but you have not eaten the holy bean .
Youve heard of jack and the beanstalk.
Jumping beans.
lima beans.
pinto beans.
and many others ...beware for I hold the sacred Holy bean .
You are a diaboli so you would of course say that it isnt holy because you fear it .For it is HOLY
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Hmm doesnt say anything about them coming from another planet.
It says they might of sprung from a different universe.
Though that is still up in the air.Also elves damorians populate quite a few different star systems lots of different types.
A popular tradition tells that their homeland has a burning soil that continuously emits smoke (this may suggest the presence of a volcano), a dark and perpetually cloudy sky and sulfuric rivers that transport blood. Some sages believe they originated in a distant, unexplored universe, but opinions are contradictory. Nonetheless, their race is the only one who thinks of Yliakum as a real paradise, and this could say a lot about their view of their homeland. They rarely meet a single partner in their lives, and that explains the big number of half-breeds generated. Diaboli are a happy, bustling, malicious race, quite unreliable and completely alien to humility. Their familiarity with some of the semi-intelligent races who dwell in the Stone Labyrinths is quite suspicious.
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*disentigrates the so called \"holy bean\" in a pool of lava* i knew it...you been drinking again! off to bed with you, you need to rest!
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Lenric: READ...what does it say about the other universe?
I\'ve studied the documents for non membersd and members and believe me it says they may be from another universe!
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Um what was your point again .....read the part about half-breeds
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great idea :D
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Last names would be a cool addition :)
I like your idea about mortal enemies, Kada, but one problem it has concerning mages:
When they meet their mortal enemy, if their wisdom decrease, this might affect their spellcasting ability. Even if their strength increases, they wouldn\'t have much use for it coz their physically weak...
So I suggest when mages meet their mortal enemy their charisma and defense falls, while their anger is channelled into their spellcasting ability, making them hit harder and more accurately.
I don\'t think marriage should have any combat and skill enhancements, as this will most probably lead to a lot of people getting married just for those advantages.
Anyway I wanna marry a Demorian, a Lemur, or another Klyros. :))
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Good point about the mages Dwinney, I hadn\'t though about that aspect. Well covered with the channelling of their aggression into their spell casting instead :)
I agree that marriage wouldn\'t affect combat a great deal, but perhaps it would give you a boost to your vitality/endurance as well as charisma, as together you provide extra strength of will, courage and determination for each other.
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will there be gay mariages?? or not?? if so I have an diea for an evil clan!! we will wipe out all gays!!
anywhoo
I would like the idea of soulmates or blood brothers/sisters! a soulmate will make U stronger but if one dies the other dies too. this way U have to protect eachother! blood brothers was my idea of an alliance. Two gang leaders who become allies can become blood brothers this maens they can\'t kill eachother. And if one does kill the other he dies too!! this is complicated cause U could just hire an assasin or something.
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will there be gay mariages?? or not?? if so I have an diea for an evil clan!! we will wipe out all gays!!
anywhoo
I would like the idea of soulmates or blood brothers/sisters! a soulmate will make U stronger but if one dies the other dies too. this way U have to protect eachother! blood brothers was my idea of an alliance. Two gang leaders who become allies can become blood brothers this maens they can\'t kill eachother. And if one does kill the other he dies too!! this is useless U could just hire an assasin or something.
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Originally posted by ninkwi njadro
will there be gay mariages?? or not?? if so I have an diea for an evil clan!! we will wipe out all gays!!
That\'s not role-playing as an evil clan, that\'s just being bigoted X(
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zorrry if this is a dumb question what\'s being bigoted?? or was that a type-o??
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A bigot is an intolerant person, usually used with respect to intolerance of different race, religion, sexuality etc.
Sorry Ninkwi, but you did deserve it after your comment ;)
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yes indeed I do. I am not a racist I am just anti gay! sue me!! But I do not wanna kill gay people in rl or something. I just think it\'s unatural.
I am a racist btw I hate all racists
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Originally posted by Dwinney
Last names would be a cool addition :)
I like your idea about mortal enemies, Kada, but one problem it has concerning mages:
When they meet their mortal enemy, if their wisdom decrease, this might affect their spellcasting ability. Even if their strength increases, they wouldn\'t have much use for it coz their physically weak...
So I suggest when mages meet their mortal enemy their charisma and defense falls, while their anger is channelled into their spellcasting ability, making them hit harder and more accurately.
I don\'t think marriage should have any combat and skill enhancements, as this will most probably lead to a lot of people getting married just for those advantages.
Anyway I wanna marry a Demorian, a Lemur, or another Klyros. :))
What how would that decrease there spells mages everywhere ive seen work with intelligence not wisdom,now planeshift might be different.But intelligence has always been the strong suit to mages casting spells.Priests on the other hand use wisdom.
The only thing mages use wisdom for in most circles was for increased bonus spells.
As for married couples getting a slight bonus I dont see anything wrong with it.As it would not be that great of an increase and perhaps it would last only for a short time... think of it as a granted ability...or strength as if your loved one is in danger so you get a temporary boost.
Also it is well documented that a person fighting for someone he/she cares for or something he/she believes in is stronger than just the person hired to do certain jobs.
As for people getting married to increase there chances .I dont see anything wrong with that because in some ways it adds realism as well what happens alot when people fall in love and get married is so that they can gather thier assets and together forge a better tommorow.
Also it would only work when they were together .
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Originally posted by ninkwi njadro
will there be gay mariages?? or not?? if so I have an diea for an evil clan!! we will wipe out all gays!!
did someone say evil clan??? im intrested already! :evil:
lol but that is a little \"bigoted\"
as kada so well put it :D
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Originally posted by Lenric
Originally posted by Dwinney
Last names would be a cool addition :)
I like your idea about mortal enemies, Kada, but one problem it has concerning mages:
When they meet their mortal enemy, if their wisdom decrease, this might affect their spellcasting ability. Even if their strength increases, they wouldn\'t have much use for it coz their physically weak...
So I suggest when mages meet their mortal enemy their charisma and defense falls, while their anger is channelled into their spellcasting ability, making them hit harder and more accurately.
I don\'t think marriage should have any combat and skill enhancements, as this will most probably lead to a lot of people getting married just for those advantages.
Anyway I wanna marry a Demorian, a Lemur, or another Klyros. :))
What how would that decrease there spells mages everywhere ive seen work with intelligence not wisdom,now planeshift might be different.But intelligence has always been the strong suit to mages casting spells.Priests on the other hand use wisdom.
The only thing mages use wisdom for in most circles was for increased bonus spells.
As for married couples getting a slight bonus I dont see anything wrong with it.As it would not be that great of an increase and perhaps it would last only for a short time... think of it as a granted ability...or strength as if your loved one is in danger so you get a temporary boost.
Also it is well documented that a person fighting for someone he/she cares for or something he/she believes in is stronger than just the person hired to do certain jobs.
As for people getting married to increase there chances .I dont see anything wrong with that because in some ways it adds realism as well what happens alot when people fall in love and get married is so that they can gather thier assets and together forge a better tommorow.
Also it would only work when they were together .
well said! and how bout this. the people you have on the \"list\" lenric mentioned eirlier i think should be eligible for discounts. i say discounts meaning price reduction on items you buy from stores. the people who buy the items wont get these discounts. but you can specify to the store owner who you are buying the item for. and whatever item you purchased for your wife/husband/brother/sister or whatever,will ONLY work for the person you bought it for. to sum it up, you get a discount for buying an item that would only work for one specific person. for example. say you buy some armor for one of the people on your \"list\". you yourself could not equip this armor. only the person you bought this armor for could use it.
anyone out there like this idea? :D
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Ok guys (and gals) back on the subject!!! If i could ge married I\'d also want to share a house... Wouldn\'t you? So ummmm if u get married with someone you better be able to trust them because You wouldnt want them stealing ur stuff and running off would you Well if we could get married (meaning anyone not the people on the threat) ummm and they stole ur stuff u would want to have a divorce ... Am i right? so So i suggest u put this into mind game people Im out :]
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Wait if u did that.. then died and lost ur armor... The person who gotit wouldn\'t get it am i right? I\'m Out
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yes yes yes i do agree with ya sweety......amazingly i never read this thread....^_^
it dont mater to be if there is any stat effects of being married...ima stil lmarry u one day.. ^_^
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hehe. im more than willing meket ^_^
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Originally posted by picolo
Wait if u did that.. then died and lost ur armor... The person who gotit wouldn\'t get it am i right? I\'m Out
yea if the armor was pked and taken from you then it would become eligible to be worn by anyone. :D
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*starts thinking of soem romantic way to propose *
when the tie is right of course ^_^..ima bit slow...so it takes me a while. ;)
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Originally posted by meket
*starts thinking of soem romantic way to propose *
when the tie is right of course ^_^..ima bit slow...so it takes me a while. ;)
hehehehe....anytime and anyway you want sweety *kisses meket* ;)
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noooooooo damn it..it wont be anyway..its gona be a really sweet and romantic way damn it..
:)
<------is stubborn like an old mule.
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wether its romantic or not ill probably still say yes and ill still love u to death ;)
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probabaly?......
: \\
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ok im sorry. i will definately say yes :D
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Sorry guys I love you both loads, but....
Shouldn\'t some of this stuff go in PMs? Or maybe you should have your own dating forum ;)
Now what was this thread about again, I can\'t seem to remember? Ah yes, congratulations to you both for finding love and happiness....can I be a bridesmaid if you tie the knot? (That\'s back on topic again isn\'t it? ;) )
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what is this PM\'s u speak of.....i have never heard of them... :D
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Originally posted by meket
what is this PM\'s u speak of.....i have never heard of them... :D
lol that\'s certainly how it seems from here ;)
Just for you meket: PMs, or private messages enable you to talk to your beloved away from the prying eyes of others. So you can say whatever you want to each other without making others feel a bit queasy ;)
(You know me I\'m just jealous :D )
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i tried that....she has this thing for keeping it in the public view... ?( *shrugs* cant say i mind all that much either... ^_^
i have no idea why ur jealous...i think ur nuts...or kidding.. ?(
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Jealous of you both I meant ;)
Just kidding, I have more than I can handle on my plate anyway at the moment without PS love complicating my life :)
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*hands kada-el a slighty larger plate...with little edges to help to keep things form fallin off*
maybe that will help..i dunno what u mean by having to many things on u rplate, u mean like at turkey day when u jsut kinda load ur plate up and stuff ur face for a while? ?( ?( ?(
j/k ^_^
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Whahahaah you guys (and girls :D ) are hilareous!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I like the idea\'s though
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yea we are all spaming :D and the mods are going to beat us severely :D get away from my man kada ;)
anyway...marriage in the game is a MUST :D
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are u mockin my love for Princess Aelya by callin us funny???!!!?!?
i hope not....cuz i shake my fist pretty good....and ill shake it at u..
*holds his fist out, in preparation of shaking it...*
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Uh oh, warned off by Aelya. I was joking and I did say I was jealous of your relationship not of you ;)
Anyway no need to worry, just by your pic I can see that you are horny and I wouldn\'t come between a horny gal and her man! ;)
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lmao
im not horny! not right now anyway :|
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oh no.... :(
i knew u were kidding....besides evenif i didnt love Princess Aelya so much....i wouldnt fraternize (sp) with ya..if wolf found out that i did.....mmmmmmmmm..not good.. ;)
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
im not horny! not right now anyway :|
lol yes you are - horny - Diaboli - horns - see what I was getting at :rolleyes:
I know it was an awful joke, I can\'t apologise enough to anyone who has wasted their time by reading it, lol sorry ;)
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it was kinda crappy. but it was cool. It\'s prolly just one of those jokes U only laugh about when U are drunk or high!!
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yea...that was truly an awful joke...i forgive u though :D
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when i heard the joke it made me go 8o :)) :) :]
then she sadi she not horny now and i go :( ;( :O
lol 8)
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LOL dont worry sweety. i might be later ;) depends on if u can get me in a good mood :D
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PPPPPPpppPPpPPPppPPpprRrrRrRrrrrRRrRrrrRrRr....
i bet i can.... :D
:D i bet this is upsetting a few of the mods...
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I couldnt say if its upsetting mods, but man my stomach hurts all of a sudden ;)
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Oh get a room! :))
I wonder what she looks like horny?
J/K heh
you can keep her she look funny :D Im not into the whole evil with horns and blood type of thing.... more less no horns or blood thing..... oh well
Me so stupid ?(
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GGGGGRrrGRRrRRRRRRrrrRrrRrRrRrr......
*mental note...kill holy spike the fist time he is seen in the arena*
*urinate upon his gravestone*
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hmmmmmmmmmm :D
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uuuhhhhhh-ohhhhhhhh...
*worries*
*kisses aelya*^_^
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U know people this is really off topic. but I don\'t mind.
anywhoo has anyone gota any thing to say?? that has something to with the topic?? i never got any replies to my blood brotherposts and stuff
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om mr. im stayin gon topic......WTF does that crap have to do with gettin married???? stupid fool
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yarr, can\'t they just make somewhere on this site for you guys to make out? somewhere we can\'t see?
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meket with a g/f talking about gettin married....
anyone wanna start a pool on how long they last??
I bet she strays off when he gets his computer fixed. I give it......2 weeks. any other takers?
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they seem so desperate and pathetic..
they\'re perfect for each other ! atleast 3 mounths ..
j/k u guys =)
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hey wolfman i realy hope that was a joke...and if it was it was a really cruel joke which makes you somewhat of an ass,and if it wasnt a joke it makes you even more of an ass. im not gonna stray nowhere. i can wait. i know hes getting his computer fixed and thats cool cuz ill wait for him. we will last MUCH MUCH longer than 2 weeks. let alone 2 months. X(
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He\'ll just steal your comp whilst his is being fixed Wolfy ;)
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If not for thier different alignments.Id say they could last together for a very long time.It sure would be interesting to see them together when the game arrives.
Kinda like romeo and juliet in a way with Meket though he be a rogue a member of the Golden dragon clan dedicated to protecting others.....and Aelya a diaboli princess who loves to see others blood spilt for her amusement.
Anyways lay finger on Kada-El and Thoos be the least of your concerns. ;)
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Originally posted by Lenric
If not for thier different alignments.Id say they could last together for a very long time.It sure would be interesting to see them together when the game arrives.
Kinda like romeo and juliet in a way with Meket though he be a rogue a member of the Golden dragon clan dedicated to protecting others.....and Aelya a diaboli princess who loves to see others blood spilt for her amusement.
Anyways lay finger on Kada-El and Thoos be the least of your concerns. ;)
How the hell is that like Romeo and Juliet?
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Originally posted by Dumb Woob
How the hell is that like Romeo and Juliet?
Well thier familys wont probably like each other just like theres didnt.Because there enemys...kinda like west side story too.
I do have one thought though I forget what race meket is....wouldnt it be cool if he was Dermorian hehe thats how the Ynnwns came into the world.
They could start out as the mother and father of the race.
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Originally posted by Lenric
Originally posted by Dumb Woob
How the hell is that like Romeo and Juliet?
Well thier familys wont probably like each other just like theres didnt.Because there enemys...kinda like west side story too.
I do have one thought though I forget what race meket is....wouldnt it be cool if he was Dermorian hehe thats how the Ynnwns came into the world.
They could start out as the mother and father of the race.
well, i can kinda see that, with the fighting famalies, but westside story was a modern interpretation of Romeo and Juliet... even i know that...
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Originally posted by Kada-El
He\'ll just steal your comp whilst his is being fixed Wolfy ;)
hehehe GOOD IDEA!!!!!! :D
and lenric.im enkindukai...or will be.. : \\
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Damn that would of been kool. ahhh well maybe you two could start another race after the devs get done with the ones they have.
We need to find another diaboli and dermorian since it fits in the time line.Be cool if there still alive father and mother of a race of people.
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wolfman and khermi are the only other diaboli im aware of...any demorian bachelorettes interested? lol
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LOL Im such a dummy it totally slipped my mind like beauty and the beast.
hmm rape pillage or are those themes to strong.
Well we have plenty of time before the game starts for some more females and males to show up.
Course if one of those diaboli scum touch one of our sweet lasses they wont live to long.
hehe double standard
But then i can recall a few ladies who are gonna be dermorian and id have to kill wolfman :P
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wolf says he is not wanting any females companions.
so that leaves Khermi...well ladies step right up and be the mother of a new race....
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yarr you disgust me, lemme paste this from irc...
*saves that bad little IRC talking for later blackmail*
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i think woobs jealous of our relationship :P dont worry woob ill hook u up lmao
ack...we forgot u were even in there woob. besides u shouldnt have posted that im sure no one really cares :D and we didnt ask u to make our conversations public :rolleyes:
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want me to take out that conversation?
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if you would...yes
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awww woob wants a g/f?
i think lenric is available lol j/k.
woobs not as bad as he makes gim out to be....so wehre are all teh eligable females for woob...common i know ur there damn it...
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sounds good to me. but devorces should have reverse affects:evil:
^howlie^
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divorce?....*pictures Aelya taking 1/2 of everything and our house*.....no....*gets a prenupual(sp) agreement* :D
besides im not gona let her divorce me! she\'s mine!!! MINE MIN E MINE MINE MINE!!#@%& forever and ever :P so im not worried bout divorce. :D
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yea...we got nuthin to worry about :D
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There\'s a large chance that marriage/enemy etc.. that modify ones stats would be exploited very much... hence, I can only disagree with stat mods because of a player being in one\'s immediate area. People will exploit this, rather than role-play with it.
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I have never been able to understand why someone would want to get married in a game. Sheesh, most people don\'t even want to get married in real life! Now, getting concubines... :)
..Anyway, I very strongly disagree with the whole stat boost from marriage thing. I do not believe that people will somehow fight beyond their capabilities when someone else\'s life is threatened - I believe EVERYONE will do their best when under attack, and that is that. Perhaps if there were to be an option to sacrifice one\'s self, I could see it. As in, taking the blows for another. However, I don\'t see why this would be limited to marriage. Friends, family, King and kingsman all these should have this option. Perhaps it could be a class, like an Elite Defender or something. You specialize in protecting someone else from harm. Make a great body guard!
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Well I aint been followin the turn of events in this topic so i jus pop in my thoughts on the original post...
its a kik ass idea ;) but after reading sum of the first replies... erm cant we jus have simple marriage no, special skills or race stuff :S cuz if 2 ppl wanna get married 1 an elf and another a dwarf or sumthin, they shuld be able to marry. Or ahve i missed sumthin? :P
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Originally posted by Montenegro
I have never been able to understand why someone would want to get married in a game. Sheesh, most people don\'t even want to get married in real life! Now, getting concubines... :)
..Anyway, I very strongly disagree with the whole stat boost from marriage thing. I do not believe that people will somehow fight beyond their capabilities when someone else\'s life is threatened - I believe EVERYONE will do their best when under attack, and that is that. Perhaps if there were to be an option to sacrifice one\'s self, I could see it. As in, taking the blows for another. However, I don\'t see why this would be limited to marriage. Friends, family, King and kingsman all these should have this option. Perhaps it could be a class, like an Elite Defender or something. You specialize in protecting someone else from harm. Make a great body guard!
wow what a party pooper...hes the only one who disagrees with this idea...in my opinion if everyone has the ability to do it, its fair to the game. this idea would add realism to the game. and it is also a real life scientific FACT that when someone somebody loves or cares about is in some kind of danger that physical and mental capabilities are increased.
lucipher, any two people of any combination of races would be able to get married and have the same advantages.
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I dunno princess. I just heard on The History channel (or some channel that had a show on about guns) That Texas Rangers were attacking a fort in some place outnumbered 10 to 1(Not the Alamo) they were losing badly but then their commander got killed and the people completely destroyed the fort in pure rage that their leader died.
But in the first place people who are married try not to put their life in danger and think they have a reason to live now. So if anything it would decrease experience from kills.
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Originally posted by AfricaX
I dunno princess. I just heard on The History channel (or some channel that had a show on about guns) That Texas Rangers were attacking a fort in some place outnumbered 10 to 1(Not the Alamo) they were losing badly but then their commander got killed and the people completely destroyed the fort in pure rage that their leader died.
But in the first place people who are married try not to put their life in danger and think they have a reason to live now. So if anything it would decrease experience from kills.
lol well that was THEM wasnt it? i wouldnt be so stupid :p
why would it decrease expirience from kills? i understand the reason to live part. but if you care enough about someone you would give your life for them. what i dont understand is why it would decrease expirience from kills. its not like its a party or something.
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Me a party pooper? *gasp* I am soooo insulted! Take that! And that! You fiend!
Seriously, I don\'t really think I\'ll be getting married in game or real life .... certainly not anytime soon. This represents an essentially unattaible thing for most people, considering the disparity in the sexes of the players (didn\'t think of that did ya?). Also, I would imagine that while it may be true that strength or some other thing is improved when a loved one is in danger (haven\'t particularly read anything about this) it could well be the effect of adrenaline. I doubt the body will work somehow harder to save someone else from a dangerous situation than to save itself. That would be very much a non-survival trait.
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Originally posted by Montenegro
Me a party pooper? *gasp* I am soooo insulted! Take that! And that! You fiend!
Seriously, I don\'t really think I\'ll be getting married in game or real life .... certainly not anytime soon. This represents an essentially unattaible thing for most people, considering the disparity in the sexes of the players (didn\'t think of that did ya?). Also, I would imagine that while it may be true that strength or some other thing is improved when a loved one is in danger (haven\'t particularly read anything about this) it could well be the effect of adrenaline. I doubt the body will work somehow harder to save someone else from a dangerous situation than to save itself. That would be very much a non-survival trait.
there are alot more males than females for now. but as the game goes further into develepment id imagine it would even out a little. and yes sometimes the body will work just as hard to help a loved one as it would to help itself. maybe not exactly, but it would be close.
hehe, im just waiting for everyone in \"the other game\" to flock to planeshift once the game goes beta. that should help even out the number of males and females in the game. i plyed \"the other game\" a long time(about a year or more) and ive noticed the genders are pretty well evened out.
but these advantages dont have to be just for married couples. this could also apply to relatives, brothers,sisters, etc.
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and yes sometimes the body will work just as hard to help a loved one as it would to help itself. maybe not exactly, but it would be close.
My point was that it probably wouldn\'t be working harder for someone else, not neccessarily less hard. I suppose one\'s body could have a death wish...but that would be kinda unusual.
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I must agree to that this thing will be exploited, but the thing about protecting your friends, lover and such is a great idea, how would a player killer exploit that?
It\'s realistic, maybe it should be automatic, so that a married couple take hits for eachother when the defended is low on health. When you are low on health you won\'t defend since desire isn\'t suicide.
One more thing about realism, when you are hurt you are less able to fight and such, making you get a penalty to all your skills, the more damaged the more penalty.
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Originally posted by Montenegro
My point was that it probably wouldn\'t be working harder for someone else, not neccessarily less hard. I suppose one\'s body could have a death wish...but that would be kinda unusual.
believe it or not there actually ARE people who would die for there loved ones. i wouldnt call it a death wish though, id think of at as an unexpected, but worthy sacrifice. i dont see anything unusual about that.
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Originally posted by Tearlach t\'an Ailech fin Leros
I must agree to that this thing will be exploited, but the thing about protecting your friends, lover and such is a great idea, how would a player killer exploit that?
It\'s realistic, maybe it should be automatic, so that a married couple take hits for eachother when the defended is low on health. When you are low on health you won\'t defend since desire isn\'t suicide.
One more thing about realism, when you are hurt you are less able to fight and such, making you get a penalty to all your skills, the more damaged the more penalty.
i like that idea. the thing about not being able to fight as well is also good, but that should apply to EVERYONE whether they are married or related or not.
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That was what I meant too.
One more thing that would be almost impossible to implent should be: bonebreaking, internal damages and amputations.
When you are hit by a blunt weapon there is a chance of something going *snap*, to demonstrate he point we could say that breaking is calculated like this Damage *2.0 (Blunt) Damage *1.0 (Slashing) Damage *0.1 (Piercing), Now we have a D100 system, we have this average human with 68 in Endurance (taken as the nearest to toughness) and you are hit by a two handed sledge wielded by our average pissed off smith dwarf, the damage dealt out by this fine weapon is 39, the multiplier gives us a 78, we take this number and count it of from endurance, and then we roll on this modified endurance. now the human needs to roll a
-12 on a D100, (D100 stands for a dice with 100 sides)
he wont make that but the roll are made anyway, he gets a 68 and because of the severe force that is landing on his leg, the bone shatters and can now be twisted 180 degrees with out problem, (except the pain)
since the leg can\'t be saved it must be amputated if the victim don\'t want to die (medieval times, no antibiotics) plus that the crude way of removing his arm (a bonepipe will probably be pointing out also) he will take x amount of penalty to his Endurance, furtermore his movement speed will be at a fourth of what it was, and he can not run.
Internal damages is often (99%) killing without heavy curative magic, (We are talking with special spells named heal shattered liver and regenerate brain.) If the victim would survive he gains crippling penalties, if a part of his brain should be removed, his intelligence would drop to minimum and his spellcasting days are over.
One point more, to stop pkers and such people if you die, you die, if your not having a skilled magician with you and he is able to throw a resurection at you, you live in 10 minutes with all damage you had when you died, if you are not healed you will die. the spell must be cast in 1 ingame hour or the soul has left the body, a raise dead can also be cast creating an undead zombie, with all the plus and minus of such a creature (Don\'t count on anything in this post being implemented, it won\'t (I think))
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Originally posted by Tearlach t\'an Ailech fin Leros
That was what I meant too.
One more thing that would be almost impossible to implent should be: bonebreaking, internal damages and amputations.
When you are hit by a blunt weapon there is a chance of something going *snap*, to demonstrate he point we could say that breaking is calculated like this Damage *2.0 (Blunt) Damage *1.0 (Slashing) Damage *0.1 (Piercing), Now we have a D100 system, we have this average human with 68 in Endurance (taken as the nearest to toughness) and you are hit by a two handed sledge wielded by our average pissed off smith dwarf, the damage dealt out by this fine weapon is 39, the multiplier gives us a 78, now the human needs to roll a
-12 on a D100, (D100 stands for a dice with 100 sides)
he wont make that but the roll are made anyway, he gets a 68 and because of the severe force that is landing on his leg, the bone shatters and can now be twisted 180 degrees with out problem, (except the pain)
since the leg can\'t be saved it must be amputated if the victim don\'t want to die (medieval times, no antibiotics) plus that the crude way of removing his arm (a bonepipe will probably be pointing out also) he will take x amount of penalty to his Endurance, furtermore his movement speed will be at a fourth of what it was, and he can not run.
Internal damages is often (99%) killing without heavy curative magic, (We are talking with special spells named heal shattered liver and regenerate brain.) If the victim would survive he gains crippling penalties, if a part of his brain should be removed, his intelligence would drop to minimum and his spellcasting days are over.
One point more, to stop pkers and such people if you die, you die, if your not having a skilled magician with you and he is able to throw a resurection at you, you live in 10 minutes with all damage you had when you died, if you are not healed you will die. the spell must be cast in 1 ingame hour or the soul has left the body, a raise dead can also be cast creating an undead zombie, with all the plus and minus of such a creature (Don\'t count on anything in this thread being implemented, it won\'t (I think))
umm thats a little to realistic lol. but if thst were the case i think id rather die :P
actually i did hear from one of the devs that marriage will be implemented. but im not sure if it will have affects on stats and things like that.
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Sigh. No one ever understands what I am trying to say. I think I am going to go away now...
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Oh crazy princess.
You think their are even close to the same amount of Male and Female players in (The other game)?
Heh i know all of my friends who play other MMORPG games play female characters because male characters give them more money/better equipment/and help them more. Don\'t deny it for you know it be true. The Dark Side clouds everything.
You will give me your wallet
::Dumb Woob:: I will give you my wallet
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well its true that there are way more guys than girls but its always like that :P and yea guys always give stuff to girls.. :P
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i don\'t see any reasson why marriage should affect stats, but it\'s a GREAT IDEA! omg i think my finger slipped onto Caps or i\'m getting more dramatic... anyway i think the idea of getting put in a family that married with the same race would be cool, would the wife/husband have to be a player? if someone is really anti - social they might want an npc they can relate with *shudders* but anyway npcs should be able to marry as well
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gee... how I love this thread :P ;)
I\'d guess that devs already have their thoughts about marriage things... and yes, stats changing is stupid -_-
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Simple marriage features are already implemented into Crystal Blue, so no worries. :) You need a GM to make it official however, but I guess things will be worked out quite fine along the way.
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whoa, this thread is like, YEARS old.:P
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Well someone brought it back from the dead, and I suppose it\'ll die again soon. :)
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Originally posted by Draklar
and yes, stats changing is stupid -_-
Maybe changing stats is silly, but what\'s wrong with getting varied modifiers depending on who you\'re fighting with/against? I mean who wouldn\'t fight tooth and nail for someone they love, surely that\'s worth a bonus on a dice roll? Conversly, if your loved one dies during the battle then you\'d suffer such loss that it would affect your skill in other ways - maybe send you into such despond that you don\'t care for your own life any more, or even send you into a psycho blood rage for example...
Just ideas, but it feals like very familiar ground ;)
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*recalls minsc going into a berserk rage when aarie dies* ;)
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If we have weddings in-game can we have divorces to an battles over belongings! Ill be a gold digger ill marry for money! Ill marry a female from the blitzers they cheat alot so they got tons of money :] j/k!
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yea Kada, well we simply need to have \'berserk\' switch added into battle and the rest depends if player is really roleplaying :P
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This kind of game, or virtual world since that name hardly does it any justice, is about character creation and evolution. But it\'s also about relationship between characters, and this is the interesting part. Actually, it\'s the only part that really works currently in the case of Planeshift if we put aside the evil crystal hunt.
This evolution and those relationships can be expressed in both the social behaviour - the roleplaying mainly - and the statistics. Up to anyone to choose the amount of either part he or she wants to be spending time on, but having both surely makes the overall experience much more interesting and rich. It gives a set of goals to achieve, constraints and a pleasant environment in which you can proceed to these goals, make other profit from them or help them with theirs, be acknowledged and so on.
One way to illustrate this is the grouping of people into guilds, clans, groups etc. What would be more natural for individuals for characters who have a common ideal than regrouping and working together for this ideal ? As the environment becomes more complex and the competition with other guilds increases, guilds will have more importance. That allows people to work out things together, make better decision and support each other, but also to take advantage of their complementarities, for example in crafting or fighting. In such games it is common to see groups sharing statistics during quests, and it makes sense: it gives an incentive for people to act together and not individually at the expense of others, and it reinforces the feeling of being part of a team. That is also an added difficulty, which helps in term of interest longevity. But I don\'t want to go deeper in this topic, that\'s something which has been discussed in length, over and over again.
However, guilds can be big, counting many people who don\'t necessarily have a lot in common with you except for the guild ideals and beliefs. Among people within or without the guild, you may find a few very good friends though, with who you happen to share the same points of view on many subjects. At some point, you may decide it would be interesting to develop the characters\' relationships further, making them brothers/sisters in arm, parents/child, or of course to marry them.
As in the case of guilds and parties, you could emphasize either the roleplay, the statistics, or both.
The decision of marrying two characters may find its origins in many different motives. I see no reason for denying the fact that some couples actually feel something for each other - they might even know or get to know in real life - and feel the need to symbolise their love within this community. They may also be good or close friends who trust each other well enough, and find it an interesting experience to add more depth to the story of their characters, to symbolise the ideals they have in common, or even to use marriage as a metaphor to prove their faith, and use this bond as a mark of engagement regarding the fate of their characters in the game.
But marriage could also be used for the evolution of the character in itself, like it has been nicely stated before in this thread. Why not use it as an additional way to increase the possibilities and depth to the game ? Conditionally modifying the parameters of the characters sounds like a very good way, if not a necessary one, to go in that direction. \"for richer and for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do you part\" meaning of course that it shouldn\'t be only for an advantage. Firstly, because the game has to remain fair to the poor lonely characters ;), and secondly because it would be more realistic and a (further) good motive to take care of the other character in every situation as it should be.
It could translate into increased strength, will, charisma and so on like said before, when both characters are acting together, or into the alteration of certain skills depending on the relative nature of the two characters in order to favours complementarities, though it may become complex to set up. For example, two mages with opposite Ways like Crystal and Dark would see little advantage of being together (and that should indeed reflect the different and perhaps incompatible beliefs of their owners), unless they are willing to change one way or another. On the other hand, Crystal and Blue together would see their healing and purification powers strengthened. Another easy example is a Healer (Crystal Way) and a Fighter (any weapon skill, or armour).
Then it would have to translate into other modifications of the parameters when the situation tends toward an unsteady situation. To keep the last example, the fighter could have increased strength and agility if the beloved one gets hurt, at the expense of intelligence and armour, as if only a desperate act could now save them both ;) And of course, in case of death, the grief could be symbolised another way and shared among the couple. Likewise, prolonged absence would have negative effect.
The couple may naturally desire to have children, an existing character would then be adopted and see some of his/her skills modified according to the \'inheritance\' from the parents.
Besides \'simple\' character parameters consideration, marriage may also imply a lot of aside advantages and disadvantages the players could have to deal with. For instance, the economical system could take this into account, if it ever proves to be complex enough, but this is getting too speculative at the moment. The couple could receive a bonus (gifts) when getting together, and suffer a penalty when divorcing etc.
The more possibilities, the more interesting it gets, and in my opinion it is by using every one of them, both in terms of relationship, roleplay and statistics that people can fully appreciate the experience, and stay longer in this project.
Just a few thoughts from another perspective... :)
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Hey, what about NPC children? I know it sounds dumb but if done right it could be cool.
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uh how about no! That would be horrible, then we would have to call in the coppers aka. GMs to arrest Sep for beating his ^^
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Sorry, it was just an idea.
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Well its cool but its kinda creepy
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lol npc kids...whatever would be the use for them..implaying PS here man..not The Sims
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You\'re right, it\'s stupid.
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actually if you put the total amount if inplasablitiy of it behind its kinda a cool idea. chars who sleep around alot get a bunch of iligitemate kid npc\'s bugging them for funds or have a slave child who cleans your game house and gives you cheeze prezzies that you stick on his door with the loving makings * hand me such crap again and i\'ll rip your little fingers off*
my bad parenting ideas asideds if it was remotely possible to do that kinda thing i think it whould be interesting :)
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hmmz for me only if u wouldnt have to spend 1sec time with such a child ;)
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Originally posted by seperot
actually if you put the total amount if inplasablitiy of it behind its kinda a cool idea. chars who sleep around alot get a bunch of iligitemate kid npc\'s bugging them for funds or have a slave child who cleans your game house and gives you cheeze prezzies that you stick on his door with the loving makings * hand me such crap again and i\'ll rip your little fingers off*
my bad parenting ideas asideds if it was remotely possible to do that kinda thing i think it whould be interesting :)
Right, that\'s it, I am NOT having your children. :P
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Originally posted by Mogura
Originally posted by seperot
actually if you put the total amount if inplasablitiy of it behind its kinda a cool idea. chars who sleep around alot get a bunch of iligitemate kid npc\'s bugging them for funds or have a slave child who cleans your game house and gives you cheeze prezzies that you stick on his door with the loving makings * hand me such crap again and i\'ll rip your little fingers off*
my bad parenting ideas asideds if it was remotely possible to do that kinda thing i think it whould be interesting :)
Right, that\'s it, I am NOT having your children. :P
SLAM JAM! BICKETEY BAM!! Poor Sep, that was a strong blow Moogz didn\'t know you had that kind of strength in ya :)
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Um... Maybe i missed this one, but don`t you think about their education?
You can train them in your skills and later, when your old char will be old enough to stop playing (you just bored with him :) or aged... if the opporunity exists) you can continue playing as kid of this char. All stats and skills will be at the same level of this child. So, how much time you spend on teaching - the more tougher or weaker your child will get.
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..., not half bad idea *points at aging thread from way back when* too bad we didn\'t think about it then :P
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if you get children you will have to be busy with them all the time, it might be a good idea, but i don\'t think its all that gr8 , i\'d rather have pets to parent then...
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You can hire someone else to do this job - other players or NPCs
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hmm planeshift daycare , interesting. i think it might be funny if you could use them like pets and maybe send them after monsters or anoying players.
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Yeah! That\'s right, but if they\'ll die - it\'s for forever!
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i don\'t know what the point of getting children is :p
i for one would never get them i mean you might as well go play the sims, build a house raise a family...well it might sound good for some of you, so it could be a good idea for some of you but not for me :D
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It was just for fun
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Ok make it cost alot to get merried so noobs cant do it.
when u get merried u can have a kid.
perdecide who gets the kid.
when u \"have a kid\" it unlocks the choice to make one half class char, for the person that gets custody of it.
the othere one pays child suport to the new char till they have so much exp or something.
posible the stats of each partner would help decide the base stat of the new char.
so u would need to chose the right partner to get the half class char u wanted or is that to far?
the cerisma of each partner could decide how long the marrige would last.
meaby u also need a hearler with midwife skill.
oh yeah and when u get devoriced she gets half of all your gold/ items.hahaha
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I think that love, kissin\', and marrige is a good idea... exept for Kids, this aint Sims 2! AI kids are jus\' fun first and then they become a pain... a real boring pain in the...
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What about us poor Kran? We can\'t get married because we have no differences in sex, we are only \"it\". Unless the developers decide to make a hot female kran for all of the ladies who want a little Kran action. :D
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I think Krans can marry other races don\'t you think?
Or they can marry anyone? who knows... I\'ll ask on the CB thread...
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Why do you need an opposite sex to marry?
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No actually, It\'s not natural for animals to be attracted to the same sex, why should people?
Actually with the exception of snails & other A-Sexual species the Kran should be able to \"marry\" themselves would be natural. Or they can fight over who will play the female & the male like the snails do it. some lizards make clones of themselves also...
Of Course it could be all the \"magic\" in PS? who knows...
I actually do not support same sex marriages, however that\'s just my opinion... so do not flame me that\'s just what I think...
However keep in mind there are going to be children playing this game too... It\'s not exactly \"Morally Acceptable\" as far as I know...
Didn\'t people get hanged for that sort of thing back in the medieval times or something?
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Originally posted by Zeraph
It\'s not natural for animals to be attracted to the same sex, why should people?
Source of your information, please? ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals
Originally posted by Zeraph
However keep in mind there are going to be children playing this game too... It\'s not exactly \"Morally Acceptable\" as far as I know...
What\'s not morally acceptable, marriage?
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Originally posted by Zeraph
No actually, It\'s not natural for animals to be attracted to the same sex, why should people?
I\'m guessing you don\'t have many pets? I currently have 7 dogs, and used to have 8 cats as well. If it\'s not natural, then I\'ve had some very unnatural animals.