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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: DevotedEternal on November 13, 2003, 10:54:47 am

Title: Bwahahaha - This is HILARIOUS!
Post by: DevotedEternal on November 13, 2003, 10:54:47 am
Check it out... each page loads slow because they are MHT\'s so be patient.... its worth it

Silly Cabal (http://www.theforsakenones.com/sillycabal/)

OMG, I can\'t stand it...hahahahaha
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Post by: Princess Aelya on November 13, 2003, 11:24:43 am
HAHAHA that is gold....

oopsy cabal? I get the feeling that some of the stuff there wasnt meant to be public ;)
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Post by: huru on November 13, 2003, 12:07:19 pm
Somehow reading this and some other guilds related posts around brings me memories from my Planetarion times and its alliances.. spying, hacking, bashing, flaming et cetera :(

I sure hope this game never comes to the point where only being in strong guilds allows you to success - guilds are good but the game should stay balanced, of course some guilds are stronger than others but it shouldn\'t have to mean one or two guilds own the rest and the rest just have miserable times making them only concentrate on their survival.

Just my 2 cents, correct me if I have misunderstood something.. been around for a short while only :)
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Post by: CadRipper on November 13, 2003, 12:11:21 pm
Yeah, I noticed that and had a good time reading it. I thought they were evil, not chaotic  :D  

Maybe we should post a list of the guilds to help ?

Edit : by chaotic , I obviously don\'t speak about the alignment, which I definitely don\'t think of with disrespect.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on November 13, 2003, 12:18:44 pm
It is already posted. Multiple instances. :rolleyes:
Sticky. :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:
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Post by: CadRipper on November 13, 2003, 01:16:30 pm
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Originally posted by huru
I sure hope this game never comes to the point where only being in strong guilds allows you to success - guilds are good but the game should stay balanced, of course some guilds are stronger than others but it shouldn\'t have to mean one or two guilds own the rest and the rest just have miserable times making them only concentrate on their survival.

I hope too. But I don\'t think we\'ll get anywhere near that soon.

If you want to have a really powerful guild, you will need very good people at the top, with leadership abilities, as well as motivated people at every level. This means people that have ambition and who will probably, someday, depart from the guild and create their own if they are stuck. Too many potential leaders won\'t be happy together, that should limit the size of the guilds and provides opportunities for new guilds.

A powerful guild can be attractive for someone who wants to progress quickly and has much to offer, or for someone who just wants to be sheltered and helped and doesn\'t mean to make too much effort. The former will either find his place, or be frustrated at some point because he will not have enough elbow room to achieve what he wants to. The latter will either stay and not bring any advantage to the guild or be thrown out of it. In any case, an equilibrium should be reached.

People who has got enough experience can form their own guild without repeating the past errors. I think that if you want to build something that has some chance to survive long enough, you have to carefully choose your \"associates\" especially at the beginning, and think about your structure, beliefs and strategy so that it can grow efficiently and safely. Like that, I see no reason why a new guild couldn\'t last and prosper in due time.

Besides, it is a safeguard against chaotic people pretending to introduce spies, or other doubtful and childish tactics meant to harm guilds, supposedly for the sake of RPing. Maybe we should only see them as crows feeding on the unfit  :P

Finally, when economy will be in (in a more complete way), big guilds won\'t be able to survive on their own, they will need smaller ones to do business. People alone won\'t be able to compete against groups, either, so there always will be a pool of available characters eager to join.

That\'s only my opinion for what it\'s worth  ;)
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Post by: huru on November 13, 2003, 02:12:04 pm
Nice post CadRipper, valid points.

True, the community is still young and the game is taking shape. My comparison to Planetarion was a bit invalid, pretty much only thing common are guilds (alliances). We can avoid the mistakes that have ruined some other games and the setup here is so much different with coming economics, jobs et cetera that I suppose I shouldn\'t be worried ;-)
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Post by: CadRipper on November 13, 2003, 03:33:43 pm
Huru, I wouldn\'t know about Planetarion  ;)
Concerning the bad OOC behaviour, it seems we have our share here like everywhere else, even if somewhat small. It\'s an unavoidable thing. It will always exist in the community, both in forums and in game.

That shouldn\'t be a worry as long as they are isolated cases. If this is becoming the act of organized groups, and if they are obviously spoiling the gameplay, it shouldn\'t be a problem to report this and ban them. Unless I\'m totally mistaken on the goals of this MMORPG of course.

Like you said, hopefully we shouldn\'t be too worried, but it\'s good to watch those points closely, and take profit from bad experiences  :)
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Post by: windwalker on November 13, 2003, 05:16:50 pm
BUSTED!  Lol Priceless i tell you Priceless thats the best ever
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Post by: Xordan on November 13, 2003, 05:27:25 pm
A) Already posted.
B) I still don\'t see what is so great
C) U\'r spys can probably find out better stuff than this. (Yes, we know who they are)
D)I still dont see what is so great x2.
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Post by: Yarulion on November 13, 2003, 05:36:00 pm
It was posted in General Discussion. This thread got moved.
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Post by: Savion on November 13, 2003, 09:42:35 pm
Savion posted his feelings on this under the other thread.
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Post by: TheGeneral on November 14, 2003, 07:07:02 am
This reminds me of that one guild, a while back, what\'s their face....TOB, or something, with that spammming guy and stuff.....you know?
LOL
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Post by: Kiern on November 14, 2003, 01:19:28 pm
Ya, they posted they were going to make new names and spam the forum til they were banned on them, on their public forums...that was so hilarious.

Although this isn\'t as funny, maybe later though :P
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Post by: Xordan on November 14, 2003, 02:26:47 pm
lol, even we arn\'t that bad. We only post what everyone already knew. :D
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Post by: Kiern on November 14, 2003, 10:52:47 pm
Yeah, that is what I figured, which is what I don\'t really see the point of this thread, I guess because they thought they had something on you it was funny? :P
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Post by: windwalker on November 15, 2003, 01:01:41 am
i think it was the stupidity of the posting that made us laugh... i forget... that was yestarday...... or was it?
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Post by: Xalthar on November 15, 2003, 02:43:54 am
the fact that made it funny was quite simply that you thought you had something on the cabal, which you didn\'t, and then started arguing about it...

The whole of this is ridiculous...
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Post by: Kiern on November 15, 2003, 02:50:10 am
No Xalthar, you\'re ridiculous!


...I don\'t know
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Post by: Xalthar on November 15, 2003, 03:01:58 am
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Originally posted by Kiern
No Xalthar, you\'re ridiculous!


...I don\'t know


You think so? I feel sorry for you being an incompetent... oh wait, no I dont...
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Post by: Draklar on November 15, 2003, 06:15:31 am
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Originally posted by Xalthar
the fact that made it funny was quite simply that you thought you had something on the cabal, which you didn\'t, and then started arguing about it...

The whole of this is ridiculous...

No, ridiculous is spy that talks about his targets loudly in a public place :P
No matter that people already know that he will spy on them, it just makes him even more ridiculous.
Discussion on that public thread was actually ridiculous too :P
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Post by: Xordan on November 15, 2003, 11:33:26 am
LMAO. If u were slightly clever u would realise that the people in that conversation had just about nothing to do with our spy activities. More so they were suggesting. We\'ve posted lots of times in the PS forums on suggestion, but as soon as we post in a different forum, your primitive brain thinks that it\'s funny? :D
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Post by: lynx_lupo on November 15, 2003, 11:46:09 am
BAH. Cut this krap. Some people find it funny, others don\'t.

Some people find rotten.com funny, some don\'t.

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See?
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Post by: Draklar on November 15, 2003, 12:25:57 pm
Xordan: read my post again and again and again...
untill you notice there is more than 1 line :P
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Post by: Xalthar on November 15, 2003, 01:22:58 pm
I agree with lynx.. and to a degree with Xordan... The more primitive ones wits, the less it takes to be amused..
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Post by: Savion on November 15, 2003, 05:35:30 pm
Savion does find one thing funny.... that people are taking common knowledge and trying to use it against the Cabal. Does anyone else find a little bit of humor in that?