PlaneShift
Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Kal Keraden on November 15, 2003, 08:21:07 pm
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If anyone is new here, u can join my guild, \"The Crimson Knights\" and get a free jumpstart on the game.
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What is your guild about? What do you do? Do you have a website? Or did you post this all in another thread, and this is just a spam thread?
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Yeah, and you expect them to join you, why?
You\'ll need info, a site, and something unique to compete in the crowded field of guilds.
Honestly, anyone who has a mind to research guilds and not join the first one they find, will probably avoid any guild with such sparse info.
Go at it and make your guild worthwhile, or go die way of Gnome Merchants.
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Mr. Keraden, it seems you do not like the Cabal. This is normal. However it does not mean anything. Your capacity to be incredibly vague is exceptionally irritating.
I hereby present a list demands, which, should you comply with, will allow people of planeshift to better understand you. As well as allowing you to earn respect among your peers.
The demands are as such:
-You must give a detailed mission statement and alignment for your guild
-You must provide policies for issues such as inactivity
-You must provide a system for long-term messaging, be it e-mail, a message board, or some other system
-You must have an Internet site containing the
aforementioned
-You must be on at the least three times a week to speak with your guild mates
-You must have a second-in-command
-You must listen to your guild
I challenge you to do all these, though I may have acidentally neglected to list one or two of them.
-Monketh
(Good luck!)
Edit:I admit, Evan did put work into gm.
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I believe, Kal, that you fail to realize that the game is the tech demo here, not the players. We\'ve all been around, played other games, and don\'t need our hands held. PlaneShift has been around for two years in the making and the community doesn\'t need a father figure to come in and tell us how it works :D
So how about you start playing along and getting to know us instead of trying to guide us??
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Monketh, Evan put work into the gnomes. But look at this: Somebody made one post. That\'s not comparable. I don\'t know if there has been anyhting in Planeshift history as dumb as this to compare it to, but I\'m sure if we looked through the guild forums we\'d see something as lame.
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I think this is the first time you create a guild and maybe even the first time you play a MMORPG. I don\'t want to discourage yourself from creating your guild bu i advise you to join first a guild, play with it a while, watch how your leaders handle their guild then if you feel enough strong and have enough time, create your own
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Savion is yet to see a website.
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Mr. Keraden seems to have dropped off the face of the internet....
Anyone see him recently? He may be one of those in-game only types.
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actually yea, he\'s still comming here
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Why does he not post then?
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In game only? Hmm? Well then, perhaps it is you who is weak. Website or no website, you cannot get someone to join you from bland claims and promises. I chose to open this guild, to open myself and its members to the world of PlaneShift. And if it is Savion, who claims its \"Infinite\" strength and integrity, let it challenge, curse, or obliterate its enemies, but never will it get the reputation it deserves.
The Jumpstart, is a false claim. Merely in equipment and items. No help is given here. That is a trial one must take on his own. If one cannot survive, than he is only in need of help. If this were to add to complication to the world of PlaneShift, then I will take this guild down. I have work to do anyway. This guild is a confederation of good-aligned leaders linked through the Crimson and Shade Knights.
And as for the Mirth Guild, do not critisize this guild. Your alignment doesn\'t allow it.
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[OT]KalKeraden: Hi. Are you there?
MonkethII: ok
MonkethII: et toi?
KalKeraden: of course
MonkethII: and you?
KalKeraden: i kno french
KalKeraden: some anyway
MonkethII: <--taking french one[/OT]
MonkethII: so
MonkethII: have you a site?
KalKeraden: our server was hacked
KalKeraden: the repairs:
KalKeraden: 3 months
MonkethII: ouch
KalKeraden: I kno
KalKeraden: it states on my guild thread
MonkethII: ok
KalKeraden: As for the demands
KalKeraden: Alignment: Good
KalKeraden: Mission statement:We are the Crimson Knights! We fight for justice and peace in all MMORPGs, primarily PlaneShift, FFXI, Phantasy Star Online and Everquest! As warriors we use the Blade and the Bow as Protectors in these Alter Worlds. And on we fight, for all worlds with evil, we will protect.
MonkethII: ok, cool
KalKeraden: next?
KalKeraden: Inactivity is tolerated to an extent.
KalKeraden: Inactivity is accepted because of the people we have already operating
KalKeraden: if ten or more people are still active
KalKeraden: than you will be given leave.
MonkethII: good idea
KalKeraden: We have forums, one which is public the other private.
KalKeraden: we have a member online AIM 24/7
MonkethII: So, basically, you have met my demands : )
KalKeraden: there is more
KalKeraden: i think
KalKeraden: Listening to my guild isn\'t a problem
KalKeraden: A council is held once a month privaltely between the sub-leaders of my group.
KalKeraden: They present ideas there and those are executed upon approval.
KalKeraden: Under policy of leaders i cannot share the voting sequence.
MonkethII: Ya mind If I post this?
KalKeraden: Sure y?
MonkethII: becuase you haven\'t on the \"Who\'s new here\" thread
KalKeraden: o
KalKeraden: Im doing them now.
MonkethII: ok
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Originally posted by Yarulion
I believe, Kal, that you fail to realize that the game is the tech demo here, not the players. We\'ve all been around, played other games, and don\'t need our hands held. PlaneShift has been around for two years in the making and the community doesn\'t need a father figure to come in and tell us how it works :D
So how about you start playing along and getting to know us instead of trying to guide us??
You don\'t seem like you\'ve ever seen, or heard a n00b before :P if someone needs guidance more than a n00b, I don\'t know who that\'ll be... but n00b guide guilds get trivial in the long run..
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We are the Crimson Knights! We fight for justice and peace in all MMORPGs, primarily PlaneShift, FFXI, Phantasy Star Online and Everquest! As warriors we use the Blade and the Bow as Protectors in these Alter Worlds. And on we fight, for all worlds with evil, we will protect.
Inactivity is accepted because of the people we have already operating
if ten or more people are still active
than you will be given leave.
We have forums, one which is public the other private.
we have a member online AIM 24/7
A council is held once a month privaltely between the sub-leaders of my group.
They present ideas there and those are executed upon approval.
Under policy of leaders i cannot share the voting sequence.
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Um, I couldn\'t care less about u\'r guild. Why don\'t u just post it on a new thread?
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Originally posted by Kal Keraden
The Jumpstart, is a false claim. Merely in equipment and items.
Can you afford to make this claim? What equipment or items do you have?
Originally posted by Kal Keraden
This guild is a confederation of good-aligned leaders linked through the Crimson and Shade Knights.
Shade Knights? Never heard of them.
Originally posted by Kal Keraden
And as for the Mirth Guild, do not critisize this guild. Your alignment doesn\'t allow it.
Although that\'s rightfully what a lawful good character would say, that\'s very out-of-character and alignments are pretty loose here anyway. If you want an alignment discussion hop on my thread in Hydlaa.
Anyways, best of luck with your guild (anybody figured this guy out yet?) and I\'ll see you in game. Incidentally, wtf is up with your sig? It\'s half in French and half in archaic English? What\'s that supposed to mean?
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Not doing something because it\'s out of your alignment is stupid. Actions define alignment, not the other way around.
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Well, I\'d somewhat disagree in an RPG because if you don\'t let alignment define actions every once in a while and let it be sort of a role-playing tool, you\'ll never develop the character because you\'ll always be playing your own alignment in RL.
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About the website, It is a planeshift guild rule that all PS guilds must have a website. Savion is not making this up.
About the whole RP alignment thing, Savion is Chaotic evil because he acts that way, not because he said \'Well, Savion is chaotic evil but Savion doesn\'t act it\'
Align by the way you act, don\'t act the way you align or the whole point of RP is ruined.
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I wasn\'t saying you should call your character chaotic evil and go rescue a damsel in distress. I\'m saying if you\'re a devout Christian in real life maybe play something other than a devout lawful-good cleric? And to do that you say \"I\'m going to be chaotic evil\" and act that way. You act the way you align yourself, or you\'re just playing yourself, and that\'s no fun.
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You arents supposed to play yourself... that is why it is called Role Playing...
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That\'s exactly what I said. Reread the post.
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Originally posted by Yarulion
Well, I\'d somewhat disagree in an RPG because if you don\'t let alignment define actions every once in a while and let it be sort of a role-playing tool, you\'ll never develop the character because you\'ll always be playing your own alignment in RL.
No, you\'re wrong. You develop how your character acts and then decide which alignment best fits it. Alignment is a tool to help understand the character.
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Originally posted by Davis
Originally posted by Yarulion
Well, I\'d somewhat disagree in an RPG because if you don\'t let alignment define actions every once in a while and let it be sort of a role-playing tool, you\'ll never develop the character because you\'ll always be playing your own alignment in RL.
No, you\'re wrong. You develop how your character acts and then decide which alignment best fits it. Alignment is a tool to help understand the character.
It\'s fine either way you do it, really, but your way is a bit more restrictive in some cases. If you want to play an alignment totally opposite to what you would normally do in RL, the easiest way IMO to do it is to say, for instance, \"chaotic evil\" and act that way. That\'s your starting point and you develop from there.
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But if you\'re character doesn\'t turn out like that, you have to let it change. It\'s a starting point, but... what I said before.
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Changing alignments is something that happens naturally in the course of a character\'s lifetime occasionally, but you can\'t just change alignments every time you feel like it or you\'ll end up playing an overall alignment you don\'t understand.
I usually try to stick with one alignment and if I start changing I think long and hard about why. Usually it\'s not an in-character reason. One time and one time only have I had an alignment change with a well-developed character: a thief who slowly progressed from chaotic good to neutral evil.
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Lets see now... try the URL to the site. That might help, if not a little to see my situation.
http://www.lings.us/crimsonknights.html
Don\'t mind never herd of them. Maybe because we closed down the branches in almost half our MMORPGs. And what in the world is the argument about roleplaying? Someone please explain.
One more thing, the claim... I CANNOT CONNECT TO PLANESHIFT! I HAVE NO IDEA!
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Originally posted by Kal Keraden
Lets see now... try the URL to the site. That might help, if not a little to see my situation.
http://www.lings.us/crimsonknights.html
Don\'t mind never herd of them. Maybe because we closed down the branches in almost half our MMORPGs. And what in the world is the argument about roleplaying? Someone please explain.
One more thing, the claim... I CANNOT CONNECT TO PLANESHIFT! I HAVE NO IDEA!
I was just wondering what you meant by invoking Shade Knights as your allies here when they don\'t exist in PS. As for your making claims of equipment when you haven\'t even been inside the game, um... self-explanatory.
And actually we were discussing over and over your statement about how the Mirth guild was not in position to criticize your guild as their alignment forbids it.
Alignment forbids nothing.
The Mirth guild is not a single person.
Anyone of any alignment can criticize what they don\'t like.
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I\'m not here to watch arguments. You people can go ahead and chop each others heads off or something. This is just a thread to feed my curiosity. If I have to stop a war, I will.
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Maybe you should get some power or backing before you start talking about starting wars...
Just a thought. 8)
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I think I need to word that clearer. I said I will not take part, start, nor end in any war, argument or squable. As I have stated, even I must follow rules, and that I will.
\"As one, in our order, shan\'t start nor finish war, but seal them. The greatest victory of our order, is the reward of the game.\"
--Incomplete Chronicles