PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dexlan on November 22, 2003, 01:29:44 am
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Provoided that we have created appropriate names for characters, will the present registered names in this ps alpha be kept for the future release?
and will registered names not in use over a long period of time be released for reregistering?
Also if present registered names are kept how will unwanted ps names be droppped, how are these sorted from the rest? ie: actionjackson ( hope nobody has selected that one! opps sorry! :-o)
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Will accounts support multiple characters in the future, allowing you to delete your own, or will there be the ability to delete old accounts?
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For crystal blue the database of characters will be wiped. And we will start anew. The main reason for this are:
1) the database structure has changed so much there is no other way.
2) The way accounts are created is totally different
3) There is dead wood in the database that needs to be cleaned up.
Most likely we will reserve the names for some people that are well known in the PlaneShift community to maintain their characters. However, this is at the discretion of the team.
Crystal Blue will support multiple characters and to have a character deleted will involve a petition to a GM and go through several layers of security.
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Thanks Andrew!
Just hope to get a nice one before the rush!
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This means that will be lost also the data concerning the owned objects? 8o
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yes :D
hehe, having only 11 rubies is not so bad finally :P
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hehehe, i\'ve only got 7. and i\'m glad the DB will get wiped. however, if anyone steals my name, i will be very upset.
Jessyn
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Yeah, how can we reserve names ?
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Originally posted by Yann
Yeah, how can we reserve names ?
Don\'t know. Any suggestions? Web forum? IRC? Voting?
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People who were logged on within the last week?
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Originally posted by Davis
People who were logged on within the last week?
That\'s an extremely bad idea. :P You get a cookie if you can say why. :)
Perhaps a signup list could be created a few weeks before the database wipe, and anyone who wants to reserve names can put them on the list and have that name assigned to them. Maybe there should be some sort of check to make sure people don\'t try stealing other people\'s names before CB even arrives.
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Originally posted by Mogura
Perhaps a signup list could be created a few weeks before the database wipe, and anyone who wants to reserve names can put them on the list and have that name assigned to them. Maybe there should be some sort of check to make sure people don\'t try stealing other people\'s names before CB even arrives.
Well, I was thinking we could do it as a web form so you enter in your characters name/password and your email address. It would then place these names on a \'list\' that can only be assigned to that email address. ( The new version will use your email address as an identifier ).
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...well, couldn\'t someone still steal names that way? Doesn\'t seem that different then creating a name in-game to me.
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Originally posted by Kiern
...well, couldn\'t someone still steal names that way? Doesn\'t seem that different then creating a name in-game to me.
Well I meant you would enter in your current player name/password and your email. So if you have a player \"Jim Bob\" that you want to keep your name you would enter in Jim Bob/password and your email. It would then validate the name/password with the current game database and add to the list. If I tried to register without knowing the password it would refuse.
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I agree - saving names is VERY important... So I humbly ask devs to do this pre-CB name-reserving list of nicks - I don\'t want my name to be stolen (I\'m not famous but I like the way it sounds - Ice_Phoenix)
PS 51 rubies - and I\'m happy to lose them... 4 the CB!!!
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And another thing that may or may not have been considered: Guild names!!!
They should definitely be protected! And due to the relatively small number of serious guilds, this would be fairly easy too! I would be majorly upset if someone took the name \"Mirth Guild\"
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Originally posted by acraig
Well I meant you would enter in your current player name/password and your email. So if you have a player \"Jim Bob\" that you want to keep your name you would enter in Jim Bob/password and your email. It would then validate the name/password with the current game database and add to the list. If I tried to register without knowing the password it would refuse.
Oh, alright, I thought you meant putting in a password for CB
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If there is going to be a sign-up list, ya\'ll would have to announce it a month before it happens for ppl like me. LOL (Moogie, you know how I am with not checking forums) I just want to keep my name.......been using it for three months and it would be weird talking to some1 named Faldrok. *shudders at the thought*
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I hope sth happens to fix it too. Not that lynx is so ununique, but there would be a big confusion if 5 incarnations wandered the PS world.
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I would also like to reserve my characther name. Oh ( 114 rubies but wouldnt mind giving them up for a update)
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Oh yea, u are totally right with reserving the names!
Altough we cant keep our items ( with good enough reasons) i would at least like to keep my name. I did not create a story for my Character and then i am not able to play it...
I would say this \"list\" thing shall be done!
But this information shall be on PS site, cause for example me: i dont check forum often, but im on PS page daily to check for news.
And guild names MUST be reserved.
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i don\'t know if the guild names really need to be reserved... coz who on earth is gonna try to steal say mirth? ok maybe the cabal might need some hard coded protection.... but my point is we all know who the guild should belong to, but i\'m not making sense anymore...
Jessyn
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Originally posted by Asgar
And guild names MUST be reserved.
Right, is there something possible for that ?
For instance, and to keep it simple, if the guild leaders reserve their character\'s name with the web form Andrew suggested, their guild would be automatically created with them as leader. Up to them to invite again the other members later, change the rank names and so on...
But maybe the guilds are less prone to theft than characters ;)
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I think it wouldn\'t be too difficult to tell the devs if someone has stolen a guild name. That would already rid us of the first d00d-l3wt-h4xx0r people. :)
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Wouldn\'t it be easier if the devs set up a new forum usr, and had us pm it if we wanted to reserve our names. We would be able to reserve guild names as well, and their wouldn\'t be any problems in other people taking the,.
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Well, it still depends on what Talad says. I\'ve heard something about him not wanting to start over with the DB... But we\'ll see. Still, I\'m pretty sure the devs will figure something out. They haven\'t failed yet. :)
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Woot! Go Devs!
P.S. Good work so far.
P.S.S. What does dev stand for.
P.S.S.S. Please dont bash me.
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Devs = Developers... Should be obvious to anyone. :)
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Originally posted by Azlon
Woot! Go Devs!
P.S. Good work so far.
P.S.S. What does dev stand for.
P.S.S.S. Please dont bash me.
what does \"dont\" mean? :rolleyes:
*bashes Azlon* :P:P
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Guys come on. I asked not to be bashed and in other games they have called devs important people and im pretty sure they werent developers.
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lol Azlon... *Bashes Azlon* heh
ok getting back on subject... i really hope we don\'t have to go through all this again when the next release after CB comes out. There\'s supposed to be like 3 more releases right? It would not be cool if we all had to frantically download the new version to make sure we get our names back...
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THis is great I\'m glad i started this thread, if i had to restart creating names i really would not have minded, but now i see that for people who have put so much work into their character, writing great stories and creating kick ass pic\'s! It would be a shame if they lost there name to anyone else. Hope to add some of my own stuff. PS rocks the future is bright!
Thanks Dev\'s
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So how are we doing on this list thing? is it up b/c i would like to reserve my name as well!
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Dago its still being decided if there will be a list or not.
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Read Xandria\'s post in Kuiper\'s thread. this is not the link :P
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Making a web form is the best way to do this. Shouldnt take a good web designer long to set up a form for reserving CB names and Guilds. As long as you got a secure DB for this no worries for hackers getting your info ^^.
Simple as
Places labled with * required.
*User Name:_________
*Password:_________
*E-Mail:_________
Guild Name:________
SUBMIT
P.S. Key loggers are a big cause of people losing their account to wannabe hackers. Always make sure your comps are clean and free of malicious code and key loggers. (/me waits for someone to open a executable in their e-mail >< ) :P
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Ooooh I\'ve been having to do boring stuff like that all quarter! Ummmm... for the most part this is all we need then (http://idev111.ioaxis.com/~delid111/playerreservation.html)? Not like it\'s hard to do, but if any devs want to use it to save five minutes they can take it and tweak it where needed. Sorry I don\'t know any PHP so I can\'t write the other side of this.
And I dunno about reserving guilds... because there are requirements for guilds to be valid, and you can\'t really check those easily through just a form. People can\'t just go reserving a guild name unless they can prove it does or will exist.
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Probably.
Ask the DEVs if we can use that one.
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It doesn\'t work yet, as it isn\'t linked with a database as wedge said... you could fill it all day and nothing would happen.
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Just adding my 2 cents, I want to keep my name! not too worried though,Who else would spell the way i do? :P
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Okay can ya\'ll in plain english tell us if we can save our names? ?(
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I am very sure you won\'t be able to save your names, so the best thing to do would be to register your char very fast when CB is released :P
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yuh, If u got BB u gotta advantage as u\'ll be able to get the game very quickly, and register very quickly.
hmm, I always thought Malentor was a nice name...... :P
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this is pretty obvious right now but I (and probally 3000 other people) are going to register names of important peoples names and hijack them and tell the person they can have the account as soon as they gather 3000 tria (or whatever the money is called) easy way to make money for a particularly evil person like me... :P
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whemyfield you idiot, read the FIRST PAGE of this post and that is already discussed.
As for you stealing other peoples names, I\'m sure it would be fun when people complain and get you banned
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Originally posted by Xalthar
I am very sure you won\'t be able to save your names,
and you got this feeling of certainity from where ?
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Originally posted by Yann
Yeah, how can we reserve names ?
if someone steals your name then wait for the next big release so you can steal it back.
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Xalthar\'s making the peanuts look smart, that\'s all :P
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:P oh come on kiern the whole reason i posted this was because i did read it! the devs arent going to reserve names! and as for banning me... how are they going to do that? all they will do is ban that name! how are they going to possibly trace me back to my main sn? surely you dont think i would be dumb enough to register the sn i am hijacking with my real email or something... :rolleyes: and as for you altharion how do you know they will ever make us register new names again? This will be a turning point in planeshift as we know it! they may never make us register again because really crystal blue will make planeshift an actual game! now planeshift is just a interactive chat room but as soon as combat, monsters and more places to explore its inevitable that the game will explode with popularity! Why would they ever have to make us register again after that? After crystal blue i think the devs will start molding around the game and releasing updates like a normal game. We may very well never have a character swipe like this again.
I bid you all a farwell,
Kixie
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Ok, so you did read it, that just makes you look like even more of an idiot...because what they are saying is that they more then likely will reserve names for CB...as for tracing you it is fairly easy for the developers to do, if they had reason to (ex: people complaining about you).
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have you read the post? i mean all of the clues? everything anyone halfway official has even said? the most that has been said by acraig is that the team is still deciding! there is about a 34% chance we will be able to reserve names. And if there comes a time where names are first come first serve then i will take the opportunity and reap the rewards. And just for the record so what if they did trace me? they ban my new character probally like a week old? then what? haha not much of a loss to the benefits i could earn. Well maybe not earn... but you know what i mean.
P.S. cmon you have to admit its fun being the bad guy sometimes.... :P
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Originally posted by acraig
Most likely we will reserve the names for some people that are well known in the PlaneShift community to maintain their characters.
Where do you see anything about a 34% chance?
And my point was, if they can trace you, your scheme won\'t work and you won\'t go far anywhere, because the names will be given back and you will just be the peanut who no one deals with...if you RP a bad guy that is fine with me, but this is just being a dumbass.
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And you\'re the founder of a good guild... haha... :D
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:P hehe yeah but its so boring so im ditching it and flying solo.
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Originally posted by whemyfield
:P oh come on kiern the whole reason i posted this was because i did read it! the devs arent going to reserve names! and as for banning me... how are they going to do that? all they will do is ban that name!
Have you ever heard of IP address you fool ? They could already trace you from your stupid post. ISP are usually very helpful with this.
P.S. cmon you have to admit its fun being the bad guy sometimes....
Some guys are stupid, some are old, some are bad, but never the three at the same time :P
Have fun being alone ;)
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Hey guys you know, It?s a game it doesn?t matter!
But.... what a game this is going to be!
Yeah! one of the Planeshift goals is for real people driving the game instead of it been chock full of ncp\'s
and in this alpha stage... and forget that! in these forums, the passion of your arguments is testimony to the fact that the evolving PS game will surpass our expatiations! if you guys put half the fight into the game as you do here in these forums..well then who\'s to say that Planeshift is a game and not some where real!
Suddenly my character kayto is very important,
steal his name and so what! only i can be Kayto!
I am the one who know\'s his history and how he ticks, if some one thinks they can do a better job then let them try ...because if they can then Kaytos the winner and that makes me happy as his creator.
f they cant, well I will make it clear that Kayto has a new id, and as the one who posts all his stories and pics in the planeshift forums I can edit all ref\'s of the old id and replace them with the new!
Of course even this does not really matter because all we\'ve done so far, is part of the build up and maken/shapen of PS. What is important is that once we get the first real playable ver...we play on and we dont look back!
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???? what the hey are you trying to say? Some body get 3 cc\'s or morphine stat, this kids goin nuts!
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You know your right!
3 cc\'s please!
LOL
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Well, to say something about name stealing:
I think theyll make accounts, where you have multiple Characters....
so id say, they ban whole account and not just one character.
This account thing has been discussed in other threads, too, and I really think theyll add it...
So, dont make devs ( or later GMs) not angry!
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Originally posted by CadRipper
Have you ever heard of IP address you fool ? They could already trace you from your stupid post. ISP are usually very helpful with this.
No, they aren\'t. It\'s againt the law. If u hadn\'t signed a VERY dumb contract...
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Originally posted by Commando
Originally posted by CadRipper
Have you ever heard of IP address you fool ? They could already trace you from your stupid post. ISP are usually very helpful with this.
No, they aren\'t. It\'s againt the law. If u hadn\'t signed a VERY dumb contract...
Ever wondered how forums can ban people? IP and ISP.
IRC? Other games?
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It\'s funny, but every time Telus goes down I get a new IP....I think I\'m on my 18th different one right now. :D
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even if you do get a new IP there is a similarity in the adress that is from your ISP. Server firewalls have the ability to block all instances of a certain IP. Not to say that you might not ever be able to log back into the server but any IP that has a consistant veriable can be blocked as soon as it is recognized as the same users IP.
Generally if the Dev\'s/ GM\'s have a problem with you they restict your account and kick/ban any related IP\'s coming from your location. Im hoping the Dev\'s will add a e-mail option in accounts to prevent an excessive amount of registering 20 accounts to the same user. After all there is sure to be multiple characters per account, and only reason i can see to have 2+ accounts is if your on multiple computers running a network and/or your character slots are full.
ok enough babling and side tracking, I think i could be a bit irritated about losing my char name, but i have about 20 names in mind so it doesnt matter much. Just remember to be quick ^^.
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Originally posted by Commando
Originally posted by CadRipper
Have you ever heard of IP address you fool ? They could already trace you from your stupid post. ISP are usually very helpful with this.
No, they aren\'t. It\'s againt the law. If u hadn\'t signed a VERY dumb contract...
They aren\'t being helpful ? It\'s not against the law, they are just protecting themselves. Most ISP have an abuse service to serve that purpose, if they have complaints about a hacker among their subscribers, they will give warnings then end the service. It\'s as simple as that. Have you read your contract ? I\'m sure you will find something like that, even if it\'s well hiden. Unles they are very dumb, but I doubt it ;)
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Actually, Cad, all the devs could do is mail the ISP about the problem, and hope they\'ll do something about it. The only people who are allowed to get informations about people and their IP\'s from the ISP is the police... But that doesn\'t stop the devs from simply banning anyone who connects from that ISP/country, so whemy, being stupid isn\'t always smart.
Be smart and think before you call yourself evil. :)
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Originally posted by Gronomist
Actually, Cad, all the devs could do is mail the ISP about the problem, and hope they\'ll do something about it.
That\'s exactly what I\'m saying from the beginning. And if the problem is serious enough, don\'t worry, they do something about it. Now, I have to admit that how serious a problem like this one could be, from the ISP point of view, is not obvious.
The only people who are allowed to get informations about people and their IP\'s from the ISP is the police...
Actually it\'s not so simple. For example, a lot of them have given data about their subscribers to powerful companies recently, but that\'s off-topic ;)
I think it\'s pointless to go any further in that discussion anyway. Someone has proven himself to be a fool trying to defend what was most probably a bad joke (at least that\'s what I hope for him), and failed to do so. Hopefully, like you said, next time he\'ll think before posting.