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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Samoth on November 30, 2003, 05:41:05 am

Title: More players of the fairer gender.
Post by: Samoth on November 30, 2003, 05:41:05 am
From what I have read so far, this game is going to be very community oriented.  Also it seems like there is a remarkably high balance of males to females amongst the forum fateful.

How do we make sure that the \"army of young men\" who want only to just hack and slash do not overrun this game and it is given a chance to evolve into someplace that people will want to go to visit regularly?

If an army of young women want to come to only hack and slash then I guess I am wrong.  :)

I guess what I am saying is that I am really not sure what the female MMORPG player wants to see in PS.  But I think it is important for the devs to know.

P.S.  If this belongs in \"wish list\" please start a thread there.
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Post by: Moogie on November 30, 2003, 05:51:15 am
We\'re not a different species. What people want is entirely up to their individual personalities, not their gender.

If you think all the males here want to hack \'n\' slash and all the females want to do nice happy things that don\'t involve killing mobs, then I\'m afraid you\'re hugely mistaken. ;)
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Post by: Samoth on November 30, 2003, 06:00:28 am
Thank you - beleive it or not that\'s what I was looking for - some sense of what could be done and what is not worth it.

I am sorry, I was not suggesting that you could pigion hole anyone or any gendor into such generalizations.

But I was trying to find something that might encourage more women to play planeshift, my sense is that it will make a better game.
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Post by: Moogie on November 30, 2003, 06:11:53 am
I also hope projects such as these will help attract more females to the world of gaming.

For one thing, it\'ll help get rid of that little \'gamer\' stereotype: the little 12 year old boy geek with no social life and poor hygene. That\'s simply not true anymore.

I think it\'d also help us girls actually play online games in peace, without the constant comments and rude questions from guys following you around in fascination. \"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me??\" :P
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Post by: Samoth on November 30, 2003, 06:25:59 am
Well if this thread falls into that category please just delete it.

Otherwise I\'m not sure what you can do about those comments other then making sure PS has a mechanism to block and report harassment.

\"I\'m really a 43 year old male accountant\" might work. :)

It\'s the oddest thing there is more of a chance that you will the lottery then actually meeting someone with whom you play online games.   But for some reason so many men take the opportunity to chat up every player they come across who might actually be a women in hope that they might meet them in real file.  (At a planeshift convention in the future possibly)
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Post by: Moogie on November 30, 2003, 06:34:47 am
Truely? I wonder why I havn\'t won the lottery yet then...

I actually found my first proper love through a game. We were together for 2 years and met up at least 6 times, although the distance between us made that quite hard.

Dammit... now I want money! :D
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Post by: Kiern on November 30, 2003, 07:14:51 am
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Originally posted by Mogura
I think it\'d also help us girls actually play online games in peace, without the constant comments and rude questions from guys following you around in fascination. \"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me??\" :P


Really?  You seem to have liked it so far :D
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Post by: seperot on November 30, 2003, 09:21:33 am
**puts ?20 on a fishing hook then dangels it just out of moogies reach** :D

yay planeshift attracts all gamer types ^.^
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Post by: Kramy on November 30, 2003, 07:40:10 pm
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Originally posted by Mogura

I think it\'d also help us girls actually play online games in peace, without the constant comments and rude questions from guys following you around in fascination. \"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me??\" :P


That so reminds me of when I was playing a sorc in D2...blah, wrong gender weirdos. :D
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Post by: Yarulion on November 30, 2003, 08:51:19 pm
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Originally posted by Mogura
\"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me??\" :P


*cough (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=6232&boardid=19&styleid=3&sid=0f798db7a3f17973e511bfaee4406854) *
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Post by: TheGeneral on December 01, 2003, 12:46:28 am
I am of the fairy TYPE. :]  (look at me fly around and stuff)
Are you asking for more \"she-male\" players of Planeshift, or what\'s the problem?
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Post by: Davis on December 01, 2003, 01:02:51 am
There are actually more female players then you seem to think, just not on the forums. Of course, its still a low percentage, but whatever.
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Post by: Altharion on December 01, 2003, 01:03:02 am
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Originally posted by Mogura
We\'re not a different species.


hmm not so sure about that.
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Post by: Azlon on December 01, 2003, 01:32:51 am
I remember when i played eq my gf( lived down the street not across the country) would constaly get tangled up in conversations about the whol your a girl! I finally made them realize they werent going to get any and should continue playing.
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Post by: Kramy on December 01, 2003, 02:30:41 am
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Originally posted by Altharion
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Originally posted by Mogura
We\'re not a different species.


hmm not so sure about that.


It\'s different brain chemistry. How all the connections are made has a lot to do with how you act - Very similar to Linux and Windows actually.

One is very hard to understand, doesn\'t make any sense, and is confusing to the other.

The other one crashes lots, messes things up, and picks the worst possible time to make mistakes.

Wow, what an amazing analogy! :]

Interesting thing though - from talking lots with my mom I\'ve learned that females tend to take events in long lines, connecting them all to each other, while males tend to separate events because each event is an event, and therefore a separate thing.
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Post by: Antium on December 01, 2003, 06:07:23 am
This subject is...amazing. Mogura? A girl? I never knew...
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Post by: Windra on December 01, 2003, 08:49:31 am
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Originally posted by Samoth

How do we make sure that the \"army of young men\" who want only to just hack and slash do not overrun this game and it is given a chance to evolve into someplace that people will want to go to visit regularly?



isnt that the point of playing MMORPG... to hack an slash stuff?

There are more female players out there than you think, on the mmorpg\'s ive played there has always been a large % of female players, although apart from myself i know no female gamers in RL.
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Post by: Kiern on December 01, 2003, 01:20:42 pm
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Originally posted by Windra
isnt that the point of playing MMORPG... to hack an slash stuff?


NO!

**kicks Windra a couple of times then walks off**

...hack and slash will burn
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Post by: Auran on December 01, 2003, 04:45:09 pm
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\"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me??\" :P


Hey my fav opening line:D.... Me has the same question to all girls of legal age here:P:P:D.

BTW-
not that I plan to do some \"legal:P\" stuff but just in case.

:D:D:D  

For those with a slow/no comprehension:

Just joking. All girls here can relax. I promise not to trace you down and make your life miserable;). I am not that desperate:D. Besides most girls here are little kids like me Moogle or Aelya (or is the princess 18. I forget).


PS

To kiern:

Hey stop hitting Windra!! Who in his right mind would hit a \"Scantily clad blonde babe carrying a heavy Scemitar\"??!!!8o.

BTW windra:
I likes what I sees here and am sure I\'d like what I dont see as well;):D:D:P
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Post by: Moogie on December 01, 2003, 04:55:20 pm
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Originally posted by Auran
Besides most girls here are little kids like me Moogle or Aelya (or is the princess 18. I forget).



Hey... :P I\'m only 4 months away from that myself, you know.



On Topic, to Samoth: This wouldn\'t belong in the wishlist. Wishlist is for feature requests and the like. I don\'t think the devs could force more females to play this game. :P

It\'s been a few days now and I still don\'t understand Yarulion\'s point... hehe. :D But really, guys make themselves look so desperate... maybe they are desperate, but that\'s not the point... ;)
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Post by: Auran on December 01, 2003, 07:00:24 pm
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don\'t think the devs could force more females to play this game.


never give up hope:D. Let them try and i\'ll be right behind them:P.
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Post by: Yarulion on December 01, 2003, 07:06:12 pm
To clarify my reference to the \"Faces behind the players\" thread as an example of guys making themselves (inadvertently?) look desperate:

**clears throat**

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Originally posted by Yann
Oh yeaah Kada !!!
Post a pic ! Post a pic!

Cmon everybody with me:

*the croud shouts:\" POST A PIC ! POST A PIC ! POST A PIC !  :D


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Originally posted by Xordan
:D I managed to get a nicely sized pic using various photo sharpening and enlarging progs.
Like u\'r hair  ;)


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Originally posted by seperot
WOAH dammed alyea **is stuned by alyeas good looks** :))
8o



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Originally posted by Clover
Whose Hotter,
Aelya or Kada?!?!?!
Who cares, I love \'em both! :D

And Kiern is a Slut. :))


My absolute favorite:
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Originally posted by Dameon
Wow Kada!

OMG!

AHHH!

Will you marry me? :D


And the very next post:

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Originally posted by acraig
Get in line.... :)


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Originally posted by Dameon
Of course the fair maiden would want a more mature man. There is no one in the land as dashing and mature as good ol\' Dameon here!


Even the Main Man himself gets in on the action:

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Originally posted by Vengeance
Kada, maybe he wouldn\'t think you looked like Alysson Hannigan if your picture was >1cm tall?  *hint*   ;)


Wedge makes my point:

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Originally posted by Wedge
Cripes you folks need ta\' calm down.  Guess it was inevitable all the overly hormonal guys would be ranting and goading the few female members round here about pics... grow up already... or maybe grow down, so ya\' think they have cooties ;)


Hehe, I just thought it was funny how about half that thread turned into \"Hey, girls! Post, girls! We want to see girls! Ooh! I just saw a girl! Did you see the girl? I just saw the girl! It was a girl!\"

Anyways....

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You need to put your pic up again Mogura! People can\'t go on living like this!.....you can always take it back down.            
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chrischoo: Mogura looks a lot like Elin Nordegren
venge: ooh.
chrischoo: She is like a younger, hotter, more British and more Goth version of her.  
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Really i just want to see! i missed out too!
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Post by: Moogie on December 01, 2003, 07:38:32 pm
*is a giggling wreck*


I get it... mwahahaha! :D:D:D
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Post by: seperot on December 02, 2003, 09:57:29 am
wha? you whoudl say that to a friend if a good lookin lady walked by whouldent you? :D
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Post by: Kiva on December 02, 2003, 10:06:57 am
Yeap, all the PS girls are sooo sexy, right Moogie? ;) But I must say, I still want a picture of Venge. I saw that old picture of the PS knights.. I just can\'t remember how he looks. It\'s annoying actually. :D
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Post by: Davis on December 02, 2003, 09:05:22 pm
Yarulion, \"WOAH dammed alyea **is stuned by alyeas good looks**\" doesn\'t fit in, because Aelya is really good looking.
But to add to your point as a whole...
Nobody was begging fore my picture  ;(
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Post by: Yarulion on December 03, 2003, 04:08:30 am
As to my reason for including that, go read some of her reactions to statements made about her.

\"Um, thanks... I think\" and \"OK, that\'s going a bit too far\" were among some of them.
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 03, 2003, 04:50:22 am
If Seperot said it, it can\'t make sense. Search his posts. When was the last time he said something useful? You shouldn\'t expect him to say anything worthwhile in that thread either.

Also, Seperot was not the only person posting that, Davis, that\'s why its stupid. It seems like all the isolated guys here just had to post how hot they thought the princess was. Check the thread.

And nobody was begging your picture, Davis, because they all know you\'re an ugly bum.
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Post by: Vengeance on December 03, 2003, 05:27:52 am
There\'s nothing wrong with being complimentary or flirting a tiny bit.  It makes women feel good to be noticed.  The fine line is when those things turn into stalking and desperation. :-)

Anyway, very funny summary of quotes. :)
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on December 03, 2003, 06:35:39 am
Mogura is right, I hate it when I guy wants to be with some girl online. First off you never know who is on the other side. Secondly is kind of perverted when you think about it. Society has become so degrading, with the need for soliciting sexual acts has become to great in our world.
Even a little thing by saying,\"\"You\'re a girl? REALLY!? I love you... will you go out with me?\" Is in a light way is perverse.

Flirting a bit is okay, like what Venge said... but I mean guys will be guys, what can I say. But when there\'s sexual harrassement, that\'s where the line is drawn, that\'s just wrong.

In a lighter note, the game should be suitable for everyone there should be no regard for if the game was made for male or female players. In my opinion....
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Post by: Davis on December 03, 2003, 09:21:20 pm
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Originally posted by shadowmancer
And nobody was begging your picture, Davis, because they all know you\'re an ugly bum.

X(

Kuiper, a lot of times their just joking, but jokes can tell things about people.
And society... I don\'t know what society is. I just realized that. I should leave my room more often.
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Post by: southsnipe on December 03, 2003, 11:43:48 pm
Hey-o, all. I\'m new to the forums, so excuse me if/when I cross the line :D.

Just so u know, so I\'m not off topic, I have a girlfriend (Though we just started going out today, wish us luck).

 Anywho, just to add to the topic a bit more, where are the pix posted? lol, just messin\'.

Erm.... oh yea. For a little more info on myself and my interests, kinda a get to know me dealy, check out

http://www.freewebs.com/southsnipe

I have some info on my favorite anime and a little bit about my OTHER passion, America\'s Army.

(sorry if this is off-topic, I just dunno where else to post it, and since I know about the game already and have played it about 16 hours total, I figure I don\'t need to post at the newbie forum, so, erm, any word on the next release date? I know it\'s end of the year, but is that like December 20th? 30th? Early January? Thnx. I just pray my new computer will have arrived by then)

Welp, smell ya\'ll l8r! Thankee agin!
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Post by: Kramy on December 04, 2003, 01:34:21 am
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Originally posted by Kuiper7986
Flirting a bit is okay, like what Venge said... but I mean guys will be guys, what can I say.


Guys will be guys? Um.....yeah...I\'ve never commented \"OMG UR SO BEAUTIFUL.......MARRY ME!\" or anything along that line. Guys that do are either weird, or joking. Personally though, if you post your pic, chances are everyone will make a comment.

Besides, you girls should be happy...you get compliments while Davis gets people commenting about his ugly mug. :D
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Post by: Princess Aelya on December 04, 2003, 04:14:46 am
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Besides most girls here are little kids like me Moogle or Aelya (or is the princess 18. I forget).


i am 17. 18 on january 10th. nonetheless I believe that puts me out of the \"kid\" category :p I may not be as old and wrinkly as you but im no child. i have a job, i have almost completed high school. I notice that some people think everyone younger than them are kids :P
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Post by: Kuiper7986 on December 04, 2003, 04:20:44 am
Davis, here\'s an example of how society is. You don\'t even have to leave your room. You\'ve already experienced it. You said you should leave your room more often, that\'s what society is today. Bunch of lazy people that don\'t do anything except sit around and whine about why they are so bored. I\'m not saying that your lazy or anyone but the fact of the matter is, technology is the common household has made people so lazy. If I wanted to be lazy and live a longtime I\'d be a turtle.

Kramy. of course you know what I\'m talking about, guys will be guys. I bet that you\'ve not probably gone one day without thinking of a girl that you\'d just love to get with.
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:27:47 am
90% of the people I know in real life are jerks, that isn\'t hard for me.
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Post by: Princess Aelya on December 04, 2003, 06:08:12 am
90% of people anywhere are jerks :D
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 06:25:08 am
You know that most poeple are jerks. But that means that there is a 90% chance that any given person, including you, is a jerk. Don\'t think about it: Are you a jerk? Its one of the worst things possible to think about.
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Post by: Kramy on December 04, 2003, 06:34:44 am
Shadowmancer: Where do you live?

Kuiper: Ofcourse not, I went 12 years!

Haha....bad clever response ;( You\'re probably right about that bet, but that doesn\'t mean I go around gawking or making rude or obscene comments.

Actually, I almost never say what I\'m really thinking. It\'s a good way to be. Think more, say less. Keeps you out of embarassing or awkward situations.
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 06:40:01 am
I live in Pennsylvania, but the jerks are everywhere. You just don\'t recognize them.
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Post by: Kramy on December 04, 2003, 06:46:37 am
I see...most people I encounter I wouldn\'t classify jerks. Only my own age group. :D

Hey, my mom just told me that wherever I go girls are gawking at me. 8o How could I not notice!!!??? :P
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Post by: Rulzern on December 04, 2003, 02:46:18 pm
they\'re now gawking, they\'re laughing, or atleast, that\'s what they do to me...


*runs away crying*

;)
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Post by: Zim on December 04, 2003, 03:19:43 pm
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Originally posted by Gronomist

But I must say, I still want a picture of Venge. I saw that old picture of the PS knights.. I just can\'t remember how he looks.
 

I believe i still have that pic saved somewhere. XD

*runs in fear of Venge\'s wrath*
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Post by: Kiern on December 04, 2003, 10:23:25 pm
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
90% of people anywhere are jerks


Not if they believe you will bash their heads in until their nice...I love people :D
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Post by: TheGeneral on December 05, 2003, 04:50:53 am
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Originally posted by Kiern
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
90% of people anywhere are jerks


Not if they believe you will bash their heads in until their nice...I love people :D



I love you too Kiern....hurry hold me tight...be still now... ;(
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Post by: Auran on December 05, 2003, 06:21:26 am
Okay none of you are kids. Is it fine now? You must understand that most things I say are just to bug you guys. And nothing irks kids more than being reminded that they are:D.

Jan 10! thats familiar. Expect a surprise. Doh! No dont expect! who expects surprises?:P.

BTW:

Hey its natural for guys to like girls (or sometimes other guys but lets not talk about that right now:P. Alucard has said enough about it on the previous post). Its fun. Of course I know what I am talking about.( Ask Xalthar. He thinks I have a weakness for women:rolleyes:. Moi!!.) So its only right to want to marry every single girl you see on the i-net :D. There is also the chance that they\'ll turn out to be fat 900 pound women but thats a risk I am willing to take if some of them look like Kada\'s sig ;).

However I am willing to admit that psychotic behaviour like looking at their bathroom windows through binoculars or beating up their boyfriends is wrong(unless you have other reasons of beating them up:P) And to set an example I will throw away my own binoculars and promise not to look at Aelya\'s house again :P:D.

So in conclusion I am a staunch supporter of Online Flirtation;) but not psychotic behaviour. If a girl tells you to bugger off I suggest you comply.

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90% of people anywhere are jerks

Dont look at me:(. Why are you looking at me ;(.
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Post by: Vengeance on December 05, 2003, 05:25:00 pm
Auran,

If the cops catch you outside Aelya\'s window, just tell them you said \"\" first and it is just a Cabal thing.  ;-)

-V
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Post by: Auran on December 05, 2003, 05:29:52 pm
Excellent Idea V man! It is just stupid enough to work:D. Here I go.
*goes off to retrieve binoculars*:P
*reaches aelya\'s house to find that Aelya read the earlier post and boarded up her windows*

Damn! Can anyone tell me where Kada lives??!!!?(

:P:P
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Post by: Altharion on December 05, 2003, 05:56:54 pm
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Originally posted by Princess Aelya
90% of people anywhere are jerks :D


i agree thougth Jerk varies from person to person there are other things then jerk in a mans personality.
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Post by: Xordan on December 05, 2003, 06:22:39 pm
:D and 90% of people living in the world tend not to use such a jerky word such as jerk. I asked them all.
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Post by: galatnm on December 18, 2003, 01:18:27 pm
I think that most important in PS, for newbies and especially girls, is this game has a friendly community of \"old\" players that help newbies to integrate the game. I\'m on the game for 1 week and i have learn lot of things from these people :) ... so thanks to all for your help and continue to that way :p