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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:32:49 am

Title: Imperial Legion
Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:32:49 am: Imperial Legion(my guild thats imcomplete:D) is a neutral guild. Please post if you wish to have imformation or join. NO SPAMMING!!!!!! For those who want to know, I haven\'t finishied my website. It will be won\'t be done for quite a while. Right now I\'m am naming allies,neutral, and enemies.The goal of this guild is influence of certain places.(You better not criticize that shadowmancer.) We\'re not evil, nor good. WE befriend those guilds who we/they wish to befriend. We pay 30-35 gems a week, should anyone want to know.
Any new recruits will be gladly accepted, regarding of what allignment they\'re on.

Allies: Sword of Silence

Neutral:Mercenary guild, Dark Alliance, Shadowhand

Undecided enemies:Cabal

Enemies:None posted yet
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:34:44 am: Don\'t bother posting who you are neutral to, its assumed that you are neutral to anyone not on your allies/enemies list. Your neutral list would have to be very very long.
You chose good allies. All of those are active, respected guilds who would be good allies for a neutral guild.
I can\'t critisize you for not posting your goals, etc. because I have to assume they will be on your website. It would have been better if you could put them on this thread... just edit your post when you have details.
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:35:41 am: I said no junk>_<
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:38:41 am: That wasn\'t junk, [stupid filter].
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:39:56 am: Read the first post. ONLY POST IF YOU WANT INFORMATIN OR WANT TO JOIN. Its not hard to read.
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:42:13 am: I see no reason why I can\'t post whatever the hell I want, including comments.
Its requests for you do get information. That counts.

Now you\'re filling up your own thread with spam. Great move. You gotta let things go every once in a while, you can\'t bother people about EVERY LITTLE GODDAM THING.
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:44:34 am: Listen to Mr. Know-It-All. Ok what \"Information\" would YOU want?
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:46:49 am: Me? I\'m not joining, so I don\'t need anything, but it would be interesting to see what kind of stuff you are going to have on your website. That will all come in time.
The most impotant things missing from your starting post is the concept of the guild and the goals of the guild. Those are important enough that they should be in the main post, not just the website.

Sorry to say this, but you may have to work a little.
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:49:30 am: Ok,ok. I\'ll say that now. The goal of this guild is domination of certain places.(You better not criticize that shadowmancer.) We\'re not evil, nor good. WE befriend those guilds who we/they wish to befriend that.thats all I can say for now
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:51:15 am: OK. That\'s a good start. Make that sound a little nicer, and edit it into the first post. You don\'t have to do it now, if all the details aren\'t worked out.
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:52:56 am: Ok \"Master\". I\'ll do that by copying the first post before you\'re post
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Post by: Rakera on December 04, 2003, 05:54:41 am: Better?
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Post by: shadowmancer on December 04, 2003, 05:57:34 am: It still needs work, but some declaration of the goals of the guild is a good start. I suggest longer descriptions, just to make it interesting, and more line breaks. These are friendly suggestions, not critisizms.

Remember that the first post in a guild thread is the only really important one, as they get spammed up pretty quickly.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 04, 2003, 10:15:26 am: How did you get your allies???
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Post by: seperot on December 04, 2003, 12:18:55 pm: I have to ask the same question i dont remember talking to you on any sort of allience. infact i dont remember ever talking to you.
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Post by: Kada-El on December 04, 2003, 01:33:41 pm: Indeed, surely to call someone an ally both parties would have to agree to this mutual arrangement, which is not the case.

Anyway good luck with the guild ;)
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Post by: Xordan on December 04, 2003, 05:24:13 pm: Maybe u should change it to \'friendly\'
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Post by: elscouta on December 04, 2003, 05:30:48 pm: So you are one of our allies? Strange, you are not in our white list. Of course, we\'d be glad to be your allies if you explain who you are, what is your guild and if your goal fits ours. :rolleyes:

On another topic, i don\'t think \"the domination of some places\" is neutral... ;)
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Post by: Moogie on December 04, 2003, 05:46:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Rakera
Read the first post. ONLY POST IF YOU WANT INFORMATIN OR WANT TO JOIN. Its not hard to read.

Lighten up and calm down. You were given useful information and you should be grateful for it, not starting an argument.
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Post by: Draklar on December 04, 2003, 05:48:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by elscouta
On another topic, i don\'t think \"the domination of some places\" is neutral... ;)

[hint]Roman Empire[/hint] :P
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Post by: Yann on December 04, 2003, 06:00:56 pm: At least my guild name appears in the first post.

And i agree to be Neutral to you, too :P (for now lol)

PS: Good luck with your guild and website, then.
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Post by: Rakera on December 07, 2003, 02:17:21 am: For now?Very reassuring. Anyway Shadowhand WOULD be an ally to the Imperial Legion.(If you agree, but its doubtful.)
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 09, 2003, 11:05:50 am: Yeah we are neutral to everyone, except if they cross us somehow... So yeah I guess we are in the right category. Good luck with the guild. :D
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Post by: Davis on December 09, 2003, 11:35:41 pm: About when is the website gonna be done?
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Post by: Rakera on December 10, 2003, 04:41:17 am: Don\'t ask.
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Post by: Tyriel on December 10, 2003, 04:40:06 pm: I read your message and u said about allies...well my guild webpage is also under construction and we are ghaotic neutral...that means we no conquerors or some power hungry force...but we to kill and defend our ...stuff :) and I think we maybe \"allright\" allies...

my guild is for warriors and thieves...nice gang eh?? :)
Check out my webpage http://www.ss.4u.ee or http://www.swordofsilence.tk and tell me what u think about alliance..
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Post by: Rakera on December 12, 2003, 05:36:27 am: Allright allies? That doesn\'t seem very convincing
Title: - Dark Alliance -
Post by: Annah on December 12, 2003, 09:03:58 pm: Oh god ... we are invaded by hundreds of neutral guilds. You guys really have a goal in this game? Hmm ... I think surviving ...
As for your guild, don\'t bother creating it, you will lose some important time, it will surely die very quickly ...
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Post by: elscouta on December 12, 2003, 09:20:08 pm: Annah...

Have you been in PS since eternity?

I mean, when you joined PS and create your guild, you created a new guild, not an old guild? How can you think that no new guild can survive? Because they are new and you are old? In a few years, we\'ll all be oldbies.

And if you think a new project can\'t survive, why have you joined Mortik? After what i heard, it was a new project when you join it so it was doomed...

To Tyriel: good luck, your guild looks promising
To Rakera: I think you missed your entrance with the alliance stuff, but that means nothing. Good luck also
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Post by: Draklar on December 12, 2003, 10:04:19 pm: Ahh... those people tend to see what they want to see...
I have not heard anything from Annah about this guild collapsing because it is new...
Either if he meant that or not, I must say I agree.
I don\'t see how this guild could do any good.
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Post by: Davis on December 12, 2003, 10:16:42 pm: It depends on how much work was put into the guild. Sword of Silence (thought I think the name should reflect the guild more) is very well set up; this one has no goals atm, no organization atm, not even a web site yet. The guild leader didn\'t bother to put much work in it yet. We will see when the website comes out.

The leader isn\'t very intellegent, but if he gets some members, that might not matter as much.

Then again, does BO have any goals besides fulfilling your promise that it will always exist?
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Post by: Xordan on December 12, 2003, 10:16:42 pm: The last time I checked the BO forums it seemed on the verge of collapse. People were making threads called \'spam\' just to keep the place going... :D
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Post by: elscouta on December 13, 2003, 10:12:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Draklar
Either if he meant that or not, I must say I agree.
I don\'t see how this guild could do any good.

If you don\'t see, wait before saying \'this guild will surely die\'. As Davis said, Tyriel looks as he had put a lot of work in Sword of Silence. And an active and enthousiast leader is probably the first thing required to do a guild. I don\'t see why \'goals\' must be original. I mean, does many guild in here have original goals?
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Post by: Draklar on December 13, 2003, 10:17:19 am: Indeed, Tyriel is doing great job with his guild, but did you notice which guild\'s this thread is?
Title: - Dark Alliance -
Post by: Annah on December 13, 2003, 10:19:54 am: First of all, when BO was created PS (3D version) was at the beginning too. The only guilds that existed then were Azure Order, Hellsing and Golden Dragon Clan and a few months after Dark Empire. They were kinda new too, so I had their full support, this was seen with the alliance between Azure Order, DE and Hellsing.
So don\'t tell us we\'re were someday new! We weren\'t.
And for Mortik. Don\'t ever bring it to this forums! As an answer I have to tell you that we are pretty advanced in the project, we will launch a pre alpha soon. And with a lot of features ... we are only waiting to finish the in game interface.
... maybe is a wise thing to make it public ... maybe not. But I will tell anyway. Yes Black Order has some serious problems. I have only 7 (SEVEN!) members active, plus Elentor that came back yesterday.
And this is a little my fault because I dedicated more to Mortik (which is not a new project ... it\'s mostly formed from old PS devs you guys didn\'t ever meet!). But from now on I will dedicate to BO like Mortik ... so prepare our return.
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Post by: elscouta on December 13, 2003, 10:26:39 am: Draklar:

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Originally posted by Annah
You guys really have a goal in this game? ..

For me, it\'s a plural.

So as Annah replied just after the Tyriel alliance proposal, i think he was speaking of both guilds

Annah:
I didn\'t mean Mortik nor BO are not in an advanced stage. I meant when they were created, they were new. My point is you can\'t say something will fail just because it was just created.
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Post by: Draklar on December 13, 2003, 10:30:04 am: yes, it was plural - for those neutral guilds
but...
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Originally posted by Annah As for your guild, don\'t bother creating it, you will lose some important time, it will surely die very quickly ...

you say this is plural?
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Post by: elscouta on December 13, 2003, 10:34:53 am: ok for the plural stuff.

But still, that\'s not because you are neutral you are doomed.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 13, 2003, 10:38:35 am: Of course not! Why would I be neutral then?! :D

(such a great starter hihi)
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Post by: Princess Aelya on December 13, 2003, 10:45:48 am: IMO neutral guilds have the best chance of survival...assuming they act according to their alignment. Some neutral guilds dont act neutral at all :P I would say the best example of a neutral guild here is the mercanary guild. (you should be honored zeph ;))
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Post by: Draklar on December 13, 2003, 10:55:39 am: Quote
Originally posted by elscouta
But still, that\'s not because you are neutral you are doomed.

I doubt that was the reason... Leader of this guild isn\'t doing any good. And this guild doesn\'t look interesting (as for organisation)
do you see how many stars this guild has?
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Post by: Yann on December 13, 2003, 02:29:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Princess Aelya
IMO neutral guilds have the best chance of survival...assuming they act according to their alignment. Some neutral guilds dont act neutral at all :P I would say the best example of a neutral guild here is the mercanary guild. (you should be honored zeph ;))

And some Guilds choose neutral just to recruit and have more people joinning them (you know, the one who says that being neutral = accepting all alignments). I hate this.
(just had to say it)
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Post by: Annah on December 13, 2003, 03:06:21 pm: Heh ... I was asking about all neutral guilds if they have a goal ... but I don\'t think I said about all of them that they don\'t have any chance of surviving. From what I remember I said only about this guild that is kept alive only by our replis ... and why don\'t you accept the fact that some guilds \"were\" never new? And from those guilds only Black Order, Dark Empire and The Forsaken Ones are alive! ... and a little Mirth :)
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Post by: elscouta on December 13, 2003, 03:10:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Annah
and why don\'t you accept the fact that some guilds \"were\" never new?

Probably because it\'s an absurdity for me :P
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Post by: Draklar on December 13, 2003, 03:32:02 pm: I have to agree with Elscouta here...
All guilds were new just after they were formed. Like Dark Empire, you can see in one very, very old post, Aelya saying it\'s new... (well not simply \"DE is new\" :P)
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Post by: Axsyrus on December 13, 2003, 04:16:26 pm: lol, i just found a very old BO reqruitment thread where you can see the black order had no goals itself:
http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=745&boardid=18
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 13, 2003, 05:35:08 pm: Hahaha! I noticed the same thing. Looks like you need to update the website, Annah.
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Post by: Annah on December 14, 2003, 09:02:53 pm: Heh ...
First of all check the date. Second - to be powerful is one of our goals even now. Why do you think every clan here wants? POWER! Ah ... one more thing - you see we were 16 when we made the guild official (it was unofficial since the end of 2001). I don\'t think I see here that the guilds that are started has at least over 3 members. And tell me this is a good thing for PS! Noobs? You really have to see the truth ...
And don\'t tell be me it\'s an absurdity that some of us weren\'t new ... because it\'s not true. We were creating in the same time with the 3D PS ...
To be more sincere ... BO exists since the summer of 2001 - when we were a guild for Vampire.
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Post by: Draklar on December 14, 2003, 09:10:41 pm: Well if BO existed before joining Planeshift, then yea, in realms of Yliakum it never was newly created guild...
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Post by: Princess Aelya on December 15, 2003, 01:29:04 am: There is no shame in admitting your guild was once new. the DE was once new, but we earned respect because we didnt act n00bish :P
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Post by: Annah on December 15, 2003, 09:35:01 am: k k ... :D
Only stop keeping this thread alive ... heh. They\'re already dead you see ...
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 16, 2003, 05:05:29 am: They\'re only \"dead\" cuz they didn\'t have enough time to get the website done.
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Post by: Draklar on December 16, 2003, 07:36:33 am: \'they\'? Did this guild actually get any members? ?(
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Post by: Windra on December 16, 2003, 08:50:27 am: How can you expect a \'NEW\' guild to get any members or to succeed when all they get is comments like these from other guilds.
IMO older more \'respected\' guilds should give guidence and support to those new people who want to try with a guild.
Just because you have been around for a while doesnt mean that you are better than them,in fact i have little respect for anyone that tells someone not even to bother creating a guild when for all you could know they may become the most respected guild on PS. Condeming a guild before its even been completed shows the thought of a child. How can you judge someone before you know them,you may have deturmined your fate by that post, you cannot predict the future of guilds, andything may happen.
As i know little about BO i cannot comment too much but,you WERE a new guild, a new guild to PS,it doesnt matter what you were before PS but when you made your guild a PS you began a new guild.
Untill more features are implimented into PS you cannot tell what will happen with the guilds. Those old guilds have only gained respect from their idears and activity on forums and ingame. As things change the newer guilds will change with them and older guilds may not be as hasty to change their aims.
As for neutral guilds,All guilds are neutral untill thought is put into it and the concept of the guilds is created.A neutral guild may flourish in PS and recruit members and long allies,those people who respect them will continue to as they gradualy set a path for themselfs that may not be neural in the end.If a guild gains knollege of the PS world as a neutral guild they have a foothold for the future,whereas those who start evil/good have determined their path and it may not be as easy to change.Their alignment has already determined the opninions of many people.
You may have been around longer than others but you were once new,you were given a chance,none told you that your guild was crap and would never work.
If you encourage these new guilds they will have more commitment to their guilds and with encouragement they will enjoy creating a guild and putting effort into it. Their guild may become better than anyother, if however u condem them they will not create the guild or feel wlcome in PS because the respected guilds have no respect for them.
Those of you who are well known are showing disrespect for those new guilds and guild leader who you have judged before they have even began,and that imo shows that you feel you are better because you are old,which is not true,and i have no respect or comments to those of you who will not even give these people a chance to make their guild work.

*Edit* ignore all of my bad grammar and spelling mistakes as i am very tierd and have no time to correct them.
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Post by: Draklar on December 16, 2003, 03:20:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Windra
IMO older more \'respected\' guilds should give guidence and support to those new people who want to try with a guild.

see how the leader reacted to an advice from someone (beginning of this thread)
That\'s exactly my point, leader isn\'t doing anything good for the guild by reacting like that.
Also notice that not all new guilds get welcome like that. Get conclusion.
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Post by: Xordan on December 16, 2003, 04:03:43 pm: Yeah, u\'d better run!!!
Pah, new guilds are cannon fodder. Very few survive.... :D
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Post by: Windra on December 16, 2003, 04:46:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Xordan
Yeah, u\'d better run!!!
Pah, new guilds are cannon fodder. Very few survive.... :D

very few guilds do survive,but there are always those who do and there is always room for good guilds.
New guilds need to be given a chance to show their potencial,not just be pushed aside from the very start.

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Originally posted by Draklar
see how the leader reacted to an advice from someone (beginning of this thread)
That\'s exactly my point, leader isn\'t doing anything good for the guild by reacting like that.
Also notice that not all new guilds get welcome like that. Get conclusion.

Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.After one negative post the whole thread follows the same sequence.No guild is perfect,especialy in the begginings and will improve and progress with time if given the opitunity. Pointless posts from those who want to negitavly critisize and put guilds down are just stupid.
there are alot more guilds with less objectives than this, if i remember a post above, BO\'s first recruitment thread was nomore than a few lines, and now they are a well known and established guild.

Couldnt understand the ending to your post btw.
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Post by: Draklar on December 16, 2003, 05:04:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Windra
Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.

negative? All I can see there is a friendly advice... followed by unfriendly reaction of leader... *shrugs*
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Couldnt understand the ending to your post btw.

you say we are negative towards new guilds.
Actually I made my opinion after some time, after seeing leader\'s actions
You say all that after looking at only one thread, did you check other guilds\' threads before making your conclusions? Let\'s say Sword of Silence...
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Post by: Tyriel on December 16, 2003, 05:28:12 pm: Yeah im bloody grateful...because I know how older members react in new guys(guilds) that I had such warm welcome...(I have worked hard for establishing my little place...but still much work to do)..
anyway my point...If u want to start something good U better think again and then decide...

I know that i dont have respect..but this is no ghost guild that comes and goes...Ill try to be good leader with good guild..
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Post by: Annah on December 16, 2003, 08:42:11 pm: Windra all you?ve said is true. A word is more powerful than a weapon strike. But, let?s give an example BO, I think you?ve seen that when I made the guild official we already had 16 members. I gained respect because I knew how to handle with everyone, even if they were new also.
But don?t tell me the PS community will become ?perfect? if dozens of new guys come here in this part of the forums and notice us that they are creating another guild! Guild that doesn?t even has 3 members. A guild must be well organized ? must have a background history and its leader have to take care of it. I don?t see these guys doing such things. If you think you will feel better if we will support hundred of ?ghost? guilds, it?s your personal opinion.
Being here from the beginning gave me the chance to meet almost all members of this community. And I think I know when a person has a chance or it doesn?t have one if they will start a guild.
There are many great new leaders here, people like Sabrewulf or Wolfmane, people that knew how to create a guild. But I don?t remember they started like this ?Imperial Legion? for example. A leader must learn how to speak Windra ?
As for BO, maybe we were new at the beginning ? but same as the guilds that were then, and same as Planeshift at that stage! There are more than 2 years since I first came here, and I saw how many of my members started their own guilds (how is Yann ? I really wish him the best), and like I said I met many people. But many had something that the new guys from this time don?t have. RESPECT! I think me, or guys (and girls ?) like Kiern, Aelya, Devoted and many others deserve such thing. I am really amazed how someone was talking with Kiern a few months ago ? but ?
And if you don?t care about me Windra, because you pointed at me with your words, I really don?t care either ? you really are no one for me ?
Ah, and about that chance that is given for every guild ? everyone has it, but it depends on them how they will ?work? with it!
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Post by: Xordan on December 16, 2003, 10:23:36 pm: Bah, I don\'t want new guilds to be encouraged. The less of them there are the better. :D
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Post by: Moogie on December 16, 2003, 11:06:57 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Draklar
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Originally posted by Windra
Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.

negative? All I can see there is a friendly advice... followed by unfriendly reaction of leader... *shrugs*

Have to say, I agree with you there... okay, so the first post didn\'t welcome the guild or give luck or best wishes etc. But still, it was just friendly advice, and there was actually one positive remark in there: \"You chose good allies\". I think the leader badly overreacted, which set the mood for the rest of the topic, which could\'ve been a nice friendly chat with oldbies offering advice and helping the guild get on its feet. I\'d be grateful for such help, if I were in Rakera\'s position.

(Although I see the post was edited, so maybe I missed something there. Apologies if I have.)

But, oh well, I guess he was just having a bad day. :) Forgive and forget is what I say. It\'s just a shame not everyone always takes the same approach... :(
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Post by: Kiern on December 16, 2003, 11:24:35 pm: I\'ve found out even the nicest posts can be taken as an attack, so if you don\'t want to piss anyone off you should always add a smiley if your saying something that can be taken the wrong way...I\'ve also found out I don\'t care, but that is another subject.
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Post by: Davis on December 16, 2003, 11:59:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Annah
Heh ... I was asking about all neutral guilds if they have a goal ... but I don\'t think I said about all of them that they don\'t have any chance of surviving. From what I remember I said only about this guild that is kept alive only by our replis ... and why don\'t you accept the fact that some guilds \"were\" never new? And from those guilds only Black Order, Dark Empire and The Forsaken Ones are alive! ... and a little Mirth :)

How are we more \"little\" than Black Order, Dark Empire, and The Forsaken Ones? It\'s not activity, it\'s not member count... hmm... a perception of your overinflated ego maybe?
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Post by: Xordan on December 17, 2003, 01:03:30 am: I think it\'s activity and member count, in which case, the cabal rules supreme.. :D
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 17, 2003, 05:11:07 am: Cabal rules!I had a funny dream last night. The Cabal conquered all of planeshift, had thousands of soldiers, members, whatever.:D
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Post by: Draklar on December 17, 2003, 06:04:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by Xordan
I think it\'s activity and member count, in which case, the cabal rules supreme.. :D

Nope, Blitzers guild has more members and bigger activity.
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Post by: Windra on December 17, 2003, 10:53:52 am: ok so mayb there was positive comments in the first post, but other posts such as Annah\'s were uncalled for.
You are right when you say that you shudnt have to support \'ghost\' guilds, but you condemed these before they had began.If you dont want to support them you could not post,youw ent further than that though and told the guild not even to bother.
Guilds need time to develop into the true state and only time will tell if they will become successful or not.
In the case of good leadership, i cannot see how by looking at one post you could class them as bad leaders who do not devote time and effort to their guild.
Looking at your first recruitment thread i could have said the same,but you managed to progress into a good guild with good leadership.
As for what makes a good guild, i think an example was given earlier in the thread where a guild of small active and commited members would be far greater than a guild full of 100 n00bs that are active but have no community.
IMO a good and successful guild is not just about members and leadership, it is about the idear,their uniqueness and the way their guild works. The \'ghost\' guilds, if given encouragement and welcome, will be more encouraged to work to make their guild successful, you say that most wont survive,thats true,but there are those who will and they will flourish in PS, much like your guild, and the other guilds that are well known.

i agree with Davis on that point,if you let power go to your heads it will lead to downfall.
Atm no guild is better than every other guild, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I do not see what makes BO any better than mirth.
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Post by: Draklar on December 17, 2003, 03:35:30 pm: *sigh*
Annah made his opinion quite long after this guild started. Furthermore this guild wasn\'t getting any popularity and don\'t say it\'s because of people that were saying stuff against the guilds. Unfriendly posts before Annah\'s were leader\'s fault. Looking at this thread, and how is leader reacting, you can make the conclusions. Leader is very important for guild, especially when it comes to charisma. And just look how charismatic this leader is. Answers to questions like \"Don\'t ask\" aren\'t showing anything good as well. Annah made his opinion about guild (that I agree with) and I don\'t see point of this arguing :rolleyes:

Oh, and I could point out why BO is better than Mirth :rolleyes:
(I don\'t mean power tho)
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 17, 2003, 06:11:26 pm: I always laugh at what an unfortunate abbreviation BO is... i am always tempeted to post strange posts about deoderant sorry that was very offtopic...

Anyway i think the quality of a guild is detirmined by its originality, its beliefs, its aims, and most importantly is members; not the number of memebers, but instead how loyal, commited and imaginative their guild members are. In my mind the best guilds are like a community, constantly evolving and changing with its members, this is not easy though, and probably wont be truely visable until crystal blue.

Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift, period.... :P
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Post by: Draklar on December 17, 2003, 06:19:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zephyrus
Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift period.... :P

yes, like you said: in your mind ;)
and like I said somewhere: it all depends on guild, \"constantly evolving and changing with its members\" wouldn\'t be so good for lawful guild ;)
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 17, 2003, 08:40:18 pm: Ok, ok, maybe that was a bit arrogant of me, it kind of hard to tell which guild is \"best\" at the moment and I don?t think there is ever just one specifically that can claim to be better than all the rest. But we are amongst the cr?me de la cr?me (like you said, in my mind :D )
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Post by: Annah on December 17, 2003, 09:03:56 pm: Heh ... beliefs, aims? I didn\'t see some in this thread! All this thread is just an arguing between us, nothing more. And this is surely leading to nowhere ... The guy who posted this didn\'t even bore to come here to say something.
\"Oh, and I could point out why BO is better than Mirth
(I don\'t mean power tho)\" - I would really want to see what do you think Draklar ... heh :D
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 17, 2003, 10:14:57 pm: Well you dont have a my little pony as your ensignia... :P
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Post by: Windra on December 18, 2003, 08:36:38 am: Im not gonna continue arguing this because i could argue forever and that would make this thread even more pointless.
Though if this was my thread and from the very beggining there was offtopic comments and flames 4 pages long when i had asked for this not to happen, i wouldnt post either.
And Zeph, i completly agree :P
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Post by: Draklar on December 18, 2003, 03:21:06 pm: oh yea Zeph, that too ;)

Windra: I don\'t see why you started it anyway... oh well... :P
oh, lol... Rakera seems to left the PS, it\'s not this thread only, silly :P (it happened when this thread had 2 pages ;))
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Post by: Davis on December 18, 2003, 11:18:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zephyrus
Well you dont have a my little pony as your ensignia... :P

If you have any better ideas, send them to me. Seriously, anyone with any better ideas should send them to me so we can get rid of the dumb pony.

And Draklar, when Zephyrus said \"Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift, period.... \", why didn\'t you take that as it was supposed to be taken, humorously? You remind me of shadowmancer in many many ways... you think everything is serious. There\'s no point saying anything funny in front of either of you. At least he shuts up when he knows he\'s wrong. Or maybe you just never know you\'re wrong.
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 18, 2003, 11:42:47 pm: ok... calm down davis, there is enough vendetta threads already... its quite depressing when i think this game prides itself on it\'s community :(
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Post by: Draklar on December 18, 2003, 11:51:06 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Davis
And Draklar, when Zephyrus said \"Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift, period.... \", why didn\'t you take that as it was supposed to be taken, humorously?

lol actually \"in your mind ;)\" was supposed to be kinda joke as well... (refering to \"in my mind:\" )
notice I used \';)\' not \':rolleyes:\'

oh, and Auran posted cool symbol for Mirth
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Post by: Zephyrus on December 19, 2003, 12:03:38 am: Anyway Davis, who said it was a joke? :P
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Post by: Davis on December 19, 2003, 12:06:32 am: Where\'d he post it?
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Post by: Draklar on December 19, 2003, 12:07:29 am: lol, actually I thought it was joke as well
It got clear for me when you said you were a bit arrogant :P
Davis: I dunno, I\'ve been searching around but can\'t find it :/
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 19, 2003, 04:48:07 am: Wasn\'t this a recruitment thread,not a chit-chatter all you want thread?
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Post by: Davis on December 19, 2003, 05:29:58 am: There doesn\'t seem like much to recruit for anymore... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 19, 2003, 05:31:36 am: Thats because nobody wants to join. Ha. The guild\'s already dead. I haven\'t see any posts about joining.
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Post by: Rakera on December 19, 2003, 05:32:27 am: My guild isn\'t DEAD. Recruitment takes time.
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Post by: Davis on December 19, 2003, 05:33:02 am: It also takes a website, more description, and most importantly, more work.
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Post by: Annah on December 19, 2003, 09:33:58 pm: Hmm I love what this thread became ... heh
I think all of you should say a nice \"Welcome to the PS realms\" to the Imperial Legion ... if there is one :D and after this hmm ... find another thread to play on.
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Post by: Zaknafein on January 08, 2004, 06:08:15 am: Seriously, is he THAT stupid? This is the guilds thread. He has a right to post an advertisment. Not that I like him much...
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Post by: Hasaki Kasei on January 18, 2004, 08:35:49 pm: Where is this thread going?
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Post by: Xordan on January 18, 2004, 08:40:58 pm: To the depths of chaos, gay men and wierd funky chickens... aka Draklar\'s house. :D
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Post by: Davis on January 18, 2004, 11:13:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zaknafein
Seriously, is he THAT stupid? This is the guilds thread. He has a right to post an advertisment. Not that I like him much...

Yes, and we are saying exactly why what he is advertising is stupid.

And what\'s with you and trying to revive flamewars?

Or is it Hasaki Kasei reviving the flame wars (though Zaknafein has a history of this)? It\'s hard to compare post dates when you don\'t know the date... 8o

18th, right?