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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Arcala on December 07, 2003, 03:50:01 pm

Title: The Game-Sickness
Post by: Arcala on December 07, 2003, 03:50:01 pm: I sometimes feel kinda sick when ive played games like planeshift for 45minutes+, i wonder why that comes? It happens with other 3d person view games too (only some, but not all), and it feels almost like car-sickness(like when you drive on a road with many corners etc, you get that.. or is that called Motion sickness?)
Anyway yeah, it sucks. Anyone else get this?

Oh and btw i couldnt descide if this were to go in the General or Off-Topic part, feel free to move it..
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Post by: Kixie on December 07, 2003, 03:53:57 pm: ??? dude havent you ever read the manual of a game before? in the front it says if you have these symptoms to stop right away and that you might have an eptiliptic seizure! ever read on the news about little japanese kids watching thier anime and all of a sudden jerkin around into a drooling vegitable state? well that will happen to you if you keep it up. go see a doctor please...
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 07, 2003, 04:02:36 pm: Whemyfield, you don\'t know what epilepsy is. Or how to spell it right ;).
There is no connection between tummy problems and epilepsy.

Nope, I haven\'t got such an XP. Luckily.
I\'d still be cautious if I were you.
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Post by: Azlon on December 07, 2003, 04:09:36 pm: Dude i have tummy problems from games like that but now its only on really jumpy games. like a old game called x-squad omg *barf*
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Post by: Xordan on December 07, 2003, 04:21:27 pm: I\'ve done 18 hours non-stop without any problems. (mah record :D ) Maybe the jumpyness of some games makes u almost like having sea sickness? ?(
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Post by: Arcala on December 07, 2003, 04:32:33 pm: Ok, maybe i should slow down my jumping then rofl.. Nah, i seriously dunno, only some games causes this o.O Like daggerfall and morrowind did, but i.e. Q3, where there is ALOT of jumping, doesnt cause it lol.. It\'s always been this way o.O oh well, i guess maybe when i get sick i should go for some fresh air or something :)
Yeah and btw, hi, im new to the forums 8)
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Post by: Rulzern on December 07, 2003, 07:40:56 pm: 1. Turn on vsync
2. Find ways to increase your framerate
3. Put on highest quality settings in options
4. Disable FSAA

Those are a few thing\'s i\'ve found that can help subdue those problems with some people.
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Post by: Leander256 on December 07, 2003, 07:43:56 pm: I experienced that problem when I played Serious Sam. That\'s really weird because it\'s the only FPS (and even 3D game) that made me sick. Maybe it was the refresh rate of the screen (only 60 Hz) coupled with something else, just an hypothesis though.
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Post by: Kramy on December 07, 2003, 08:37:36 pm: Arcala, how old are you? My mom says she gets the same thing, but my brother and I have never experienced it, so maybe it depends on whether you grow up with computers?
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Post by: Xordan on December 07, 2003, 08:44:27 pm: Ah, now that I think of it, my sister gets that problem. Maybe it\'s just how much time u spend on it? U might have to get used to some frame rates. I spend too much time on my PC, and from a very young age and I\'m fine. So maybe it\'s just that.
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Post by: Kramy on December 07, 2003, 08:53:35 pm: It seems quite possible that that is the reason. Now that I think about it, my Oma says she gets queezy from some commercials. She didn\'t grow up with TV, so maybe you just need your brain to have made the connections?
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Post by: Axsyrus on December 07, 2003, 09:36:58 pm: i\'ve heard of this problem before, i\'m not sure what causes it though. try changing the camera to 3rd person mode(press M), that makes it a lot less bouncy
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Post by: Arcala on December 07, 2003, 11:07:59 pm: Well, i\'m 15, and ive basically grown up with pc (spendt way too much time with it), pc games, console games etc, so it\'s not that.. o.O It might be that some frame rates takes some time to get used to, i dunno.. I mean, since only some games causes it. But, i\'ll try to play in third person mode and see if that helps.. Allthough, its kinda difficult to look for crystals then :) But anyway, thanks for the advice :)
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Post by: RonHiler on December 07, 2003, 11:21:50 pm: It\'s the same reason for car-sickness. It\'s caused by conflicting signals from your eyes (which tell you you are moving) and your inner ear (which tells you you are stationary). In some people this conflicting information to your brain causes nausea. Any first person game can do it, and some are more prone to it than others.
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Post by: Moogie on December 07, 2003, 11:49:40 pm: Indeed, RonHiler is right. 1 in 3 people suffer from this queaziness in games with a First Person viewpoint. I myself can never play a FPS for more than 30 minutes at a time, and then need about an hour afterwards to recover. Thank god for the M key... :D
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Post by: seperot on December 08, 2003, 12:01:25 am: I have a sickness....i cant stop buying games...i buy one a week its weird
but i dont buy one if i dident finish the last one 3 or 4 times on different modes

and yet i am never in debet O_o
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 08, 2003, 12:10:56 am: Interesting. Never heard of it. From anyone. I guess I\'m just un/lucky.

And I\'d never worry about FPSs. Almost nothing to miss. And if you\'re in 3rd view you see more and can admire you char(especially when equiped items will be seen).
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Post by: Kiern on December 08, 2003, 12:15:23 am: What? Is this not a discussion on Planeshift?

Or is Mogura bent on confusing me?
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Post by: Draklar on December 08, 2003, 12:18:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kiern
What? Is this not a discussion on Planeshift?

well... not really :P
rather people troubles with FPS\'s
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Post by: Kiern on December 08, 2003, 12:26:42 am: Yeah, I guess so, all the post moving makes me dizzy though...it\'s not like it really matters :O
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Post by: kbilik on December 08, 2003, 04:38:03 am: The only time I got queasy playing FPS was when I played Wolfenstein 3d after 2 hours of Unreal Tournament 2003 (on Turbo + intagib mode). Maybe it has to do with problems adjusting to the new graphics or tiredness.
Title: *upchuck*
Post by: Feyria on December 08, 2003, 07:15:57 am: I occasionally get the queasy feeling too....and i only ever play in third person because i like to be able to see \"behind\" me as well as in front - useful for ambush situations etc etc. I believe it is still the motion-sickness thing tho because it only happens when i\'ve done a lot of running and jumping and stopping my character stops the queasiness.
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Post by: snow_RAveN on December 08, 2003, 02:11:04 pm: Any one rember hertic ???
that game had a record of making ppl puke !!! ( i did and i dont feel good about it )

your nausea its something to do with the way we percive things some how it screws your mind (dont worry no harmful side effects :) )
if you keep playing (usually for some time) itll go away as you\'ll fraging

ok problem sloved
nutting to read here ppl move along move along ......
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Post by: Moogie on December 08, 2003, 02:11:15 pm: Kiern, to me the forum is a garden, and I\'m the gardener. :) I have to keep the garden looking pretty.

On Topic: I found this interesting post on a forum somewhere. Sounds promising. :)

\"> Something I\'m not seeing discussed in this 1st person vs. 3rd
> person view for playing games, is the large number of people made
> ill with motion sickness by 1st person. I\'m one. I can\'t play
> anything that is 1st person. I can\'t even play the new Myst:Exile
> game. Literally 5 minutes of playing it and I am so nauseous and
> sick I have to lie down for hours. for some reason this appear to
> affect more women than men.

> I even have some trouble with some 3rd person games.

> This is a problem y\'all are going to have to tackle eventually. --

Luckily, there\'s a new solution coming out. A headset that sends
electrical signals from behind your ears, which affects your sense
of balance. One reason is to prevent motion sickness or
vertigo. Also it\'s intended for some VR aspects.

But if you\'re a person who gets motion sick from the movement, it\'d
be possible to have some API that counters that effect in you :)\"
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Post by: Arcala on December 08, 2003, 02:43:20 pm: Better get one of those headsets, then.. ;) Thanks for all advice ^^
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 08, 2003, 07:22:10 pm: *thinks about being on DC* ?( Wouldn\'t it make you worse?
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Post by: Xalthar on December 09, 2003, 12:05:31 am: if this hasn\'t been tried, try turning up the frequensy of the screen or game to 75hz... that might help..
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Post by: Savion on December 09, 2003, 04:54:21 am: Savion\'s father can\'t play FPS or Racing games without feeling somewhat queazy after 1/2 an hour or so.
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Post by: sueastside on December 11, 2003, 03:25:27 pm: Quote
Originally posted by RonHiler
It\'s the same reason for car-sickness. It\'s caused by conflicting signals from your eyes (which tell you you are moving) and your inner ear (which tells you you are stationary). In some people this conflicting information to your brain causes nausea. Any first person game can do it, and some are more prone to it than others.

Games solve this by bobbing, letting the camera go up and down, in some cases (bad frames) it can make things worse :)

solution: go buy barf bags :)
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Post by: Hyphven on December 11, 2003, 03:38:59 pm: I felt the Game-Sickness too. I felt it with Duke Nukem 3D and another jet flier game, don\'t remember the name. I had to quit it was getting so bad. I don\'t experience it anymore thankfully.
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Post by: Jessyn on December 12, 2003, 05:50:55 pm: I am immune to it all. but yes, i know some people( my mother for one) who get nauseous just watching the screen for 30 seconds, with games like morrowind, undying, and others.

Jessyn
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Post by: Isgrimnur on December 12, 2003, 06:03:07 pm: I\'ve known some people like that, what helped a bit was beng in a well lit room sat at a distance from the monitor (not on top of it), fresh air seemed to help to. Luckily I dont suffer from this.
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Post by: Xalthar on December 12, 2003, 06:56:25 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Isgrimnur
(not on top of it)

awww... ;(

that is my favourite place to sit... :rolleyes:
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on December 12, 2003, 07:26:48 pm: I for one suffer from uncontrolable widescreen eyes if i play for too long, I walk around n everything seems small, I cant look at a monitor and see only whats on the the monitor, i also see the sides of it and anything around it.
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Post by: Xordan on December 12, 2003, 07:35:28 pm: I never get anything like this. In fact, somehow I get fitter and stronger by sitting in fornt of my PC doing nothing all day. Either that, or everyone eles I know is getting puny. (Or it\'s those tablets which say steroid or summin on them that taste good. :P )
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Post by: Niber on December 13, 2003, 12:48:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Arcala
I sometimes feel kinda sick when ive played games like planeshift for 45minutes+, i wonder why that comes? It happens with other 3d person view games too (only some, but not all), and it feels almost like car-sickness(like when you drive on a road with many corners etc, you get that.. or is that called Motion sickness?)
Anyway yeah, it sucks. Anyone else get this?

I have the exact same problem as you.
the cure is to put down 3dsmax for a week (or whatever you do when you don\'t play) and play games instead in a while you will get immune, but then when you haven\'t played for a week you\'ll get the same problem again.

cure: Play games :]
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Post by: Zaknafein on December 13, 2003, 05:40:14 pm: I get a head-ache when I play games(video games) in the car.
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Post by: sueastside on December 15, 2003, 03:15:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by KwartzTheKran
I for one suffer from uncontrolable widescreen eyes if i play for too long, I walk around n everything seems small, I cant look at a monitor and see only whats on the the monitor, i also see the sides of it and anything around it.

solution: get a dual-screen setup :)
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Post by: Drilixer on December 20, 2003, 06:10:15 pm: The only game to have ever given me really bad headaches etc.etc. was a 3D, 3rd Person game for the PS2 called Jack and Daxter (or something like that)

I beat the game pretty quickly but by the time it was over I had a horrible, pulsing headache - not sure why - and its never happened with anything else before