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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Grakrim on December 09, 2003, 08:37:47 pm
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I wonder, did anyone actually watch the first episode of the 2003 Battlestar Galactica miniseries last night (Reruns at ~6:00 PM EST tonight) or does anyone remember the old 1970\'s one?
Just wondering what people other than me thought about the changes they made to that fine ol\' sci-fi series. Personally, I\'m outraged.
They completely ruined Apollo, now he\'s some stuck-up guy that likes no-one and no-one likes (I mean, Commander Adama and Starbuck are his enemies, that\'s just not right...).
Starbuck and Boomer are women now; what\'s up with that?
Cylons were created by humans? And they even look and act like humans? Bah! Although the newest Cylon Centurion (I suppose that\'s what you\'d call it) model looks pretty good...
Not to mention the crazy Cylon spaceships that are in fact, Cylons themselves, that shoot the crazy, obviously Macross-inspired missiles.
Looks beautiful though...
So... What do you people think about it? You\'re obviously all geeks, you\'re playing a pre-alpha MMORPG tech demo, after all, so don\'t act like you don\'t care. ;)
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Well I\'ve never seen the original show but I enjoyed the new one very much. Great sfx.
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
Well I\'ve never seen the original show but I enjoyed the new one very much. Great sfx.
Its a great series, I definatly reccommend watching it. Sci-Fi has been rerunning it like crazy in the past few months during the 11AM-4PM EST weekday marathon block, so if you\'re lucky (or just have TiVo) you could catch it from the start (I think they\'ve already gone through the whole thing 3 or 4 times since summer). Its easily one of the best sci-fi series to ever air (In my opinion third only to Farscape and Firefly).
On its own, the miniseries is quite good; I may just be some sort of *shudder* fanboy...
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**ears pick up** farscape that was kewl....i hated the last epesode it felt like sucha evil way to end it >.<
never seen Battlestar Galactica
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They cancelled Firefly didn\'t they? It was nifty the few times I saw it, but I can\'t keep a schedule with a TV show that is only on once a week. I saw they released a DVD of all the episodes though, but I guess that\'ll be the only one.
I don\'t watch Sci-Fi channel though, two channels is enough for me.
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Originally posted by Wedge
They cancelled Firefly didn\'t they? It was nifty the few times I saw it, but I can\'t keep a schedule with a TV show that is only on once a week. I saw they released a DVD of all the episodes though, but I guess that\'ll be the only one.
Sadly, yes. Although there is a Firefly movie coming out next year, though... That DVD boxset is about $40-$50, not bad considering what a massively great series it was (it also includes 2 episodes never aired). Stupid Fox, cancel Futurama then cancel Firefly; bah!
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I watched Firefly. It was realistic with the no sound in space thing....neat.
I also watched Farscape on TnVI, but it\'s been repeating for almost a year now...Ahh, I hope Starhunter doesn\'t suffer the same fate.
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Grakrim,
I had been reading much of the information on the new miniseries on scifi.com, and I found a lot of it very interesting. They mentioned many of the changes they were making to the mini-series, just so they could try something new with it.
And then there was the metion of people like you. Those die-hard fans who are causing all this commotion because the remake is (*gasp* 8o ) different from the original. The people who say that the original was perfect and that all these people have done is ruin everything about that show.
What I say to you is: \"so don\'t watch it.\" If you can\'t stand the directors putting a different twist on the story, then go back and watch the re-runs of the original show. Yes, I\'ve seen episodes of it, and indeed it is an excellent show. But if you can\'t stand to watch the remake because Starbuck is a woman, and the Cylons were created by man, then don\'t watch it; no one is forcing you to.
That\'s all I have to say (other than I think the remake is actually quite good).
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Originally posted by seperot
**ears pick up** farscape that was kewl....i hated the last epesode it felt like sucha evil way to end it >.<
farscape might be coming back, never seen the show, but I read it somewhere (family guy too)
As for Battlestar Galactica, never heard of it, I\'ve heard the Incubus song though :P
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the ending to farscape was truly EVIL, and i\'m still pissed off about it. great show though, and firefly, SWEET! why oh why must the networks cancel the good stuff? who wants to watch \"World\'s most painful nutsackings XXVII\"?
Jessyn
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Yes, the remake is quite good, just not true to the original in any way (other than the fact that there are Cylons and characters that resemble the old ones). I\'m not adverse to change, but when you choose to update or continue something, you must take great care. The story for the original series was very simple, and I would have been annoyed if they didn\'t update it. It wasn\'t by any means perfect. In fact, I appluade the work of the mech designers in the new miniseries, they did a fantastic job in updating the retro-styled ships and Cylons. The camerawork is breathtaking, and adds that sense of frantic drama that you might expect in such a story, and that the original was lacking. The CG is perfect; yes, the remake is great.
But its a reckless remake. Imagine, if you will, I\'m doing a remake of Star Wars. \"Well, does Luke really have to be human? Let\'s make him a Wookie. C-3PO really has that Battle Droid feel to him, don\'t you think? And all this Jedi crap will never fly in today\'s world, so let\'s replace lightsabers with lightwhips; oh, and that gives me a great idea, let\'s dress Luke up like Indiana Jones!\". By swaping things out just to make a series feel \"fresh\" and \"new\" its completely betrayed the original series that\'s its based on in the first place. So the shell of \"Battlestar Galactica\" may very well be there only as a licensing gimmick, to make a story appeal to a wider audience; which is also a common trick in video games, but that\'s differant topic entirely.
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Unfortunantly that is true with everything that is remade. All these movies coming out recently that are based off of Tv shows, books, comics, etc. have done the same thing. If they don\'t sell it to the mainstream audience it won\'t sell at all. Just making it for die-hard fans won\'t make them enough money. It\'s sucks but it\'s nessecary.
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I hate it that I always miss the shows I really want to see. I loved Farscape and I still haven\'t seen the last episode, never saw the final episode of Highlander either. The original Battlestar was great but again because of work schedules I have missed the mini series. Hopefully I will catch it on a holiday and SciFi decides to do a marathon and play the whole thing.
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The last episode of farscape makes you cry out NOO you cant end it there its not fair NOOO!!!!!
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Yeah, those kind of endings really suck.
Kinda like this book I had to read for an English class: the author wrote it like \"here\'s what\'s true, and here\'s one way it could have ended, and here\'s another, and here\'s another, but it\'s up to you to decide which ending you think really happened.\" I was so disappointed that I read that whole book and never knew what actually happened.
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Ummmm is that it? Thought there would be a little more to it...two episodes?
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Originally posted by AendarCallenlasse
Ummmm is that it? Thought there would be a little more to it...two episodes?
That\'s what I thought, but apparently there are only two of them.
Oh BTW apparently from what I read (somewhere) they were planning on leaving it open *in case* they decide to continue it as a real series.
But I have no idea how it ends because it doesn\'t start for another hour :P
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It is very open-ended, plus the way it ends is very surprising...
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Firefly sucked they stopped making Dark Angel for firefly which i hated it was so lame it was like a crapy western in space. But Dark angel had a story
thats my two cents
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Battlestar was good but the ending sucked for me. The battlestar had no weapons for like 5 hours (first part and second) then in the last bit of the show it fires some weapons but think about this the battlestar blocked a path to let there ships get away and the Basestar (bad guys battleship) which has distroyed tons of other ships does little to no damage to the battlestar. Its a screwed up way to have a space battle. Scifi needs to pick up a copy of BattleFleet gothic by gameswork shop to learn how space battles should work......
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Argh, I can\'t believe its over so soon, I thought there would be a third episode... Bah! Considering that Sci-Fi doesn\'t have many new original serieses (Next season looks good for Sci-Fi, though; Tripping the Rift and that one new reality show, especially), I think its probably certain that Battlestar Galactica will be picked up, doubly so if they get positive feedback. Although, the production value would most certainly would be lower than the miniseries.
A new Battlestar Galactica series might actually be good, with some of the twists they introduced; especially the final one, which shows that Imperious Leader may be on the Galactica, herself.
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Originally posted by Bnore
Battlestar was good but the ending sucked for me. The battlestar had no weapons for like 5 hours (first part and second) then in the last bit of the show it fires some weapons but think about this the battlestar blocked a path to let there ships get away and the Basestar (bad guys battleship) which has distroyed tons of other ships does little to no damage to the battlestar. Its a screwed up way to have a space battle. Scifi needs to pick up a copy of BattleFleet gothic by gameswork shop to learn how space battles should work......
Battlestars aren\'t really supposed to engage in direct combat, they\'re more a rough equivlent to aircraft carriers; although they certainly have enough weapondry to defend themselves and occasionally go on the offensive. Commander Cain (Forgot of which Battlestar) in the original series took on 3 Cylon Basestars (Supposedly some of the best in the Cylon fleet, given to Baltar by Imperious Leader to destroy the Galactica) with only the help of 2 Vipers manned by Starbuck and Apollo. They successfully destroyed 2 of them, but the third supposedly destroyed the Battlestar, although that\'s only an assumption since no one knew for sure and they didn\'t actually show it destroyed.
Anyway, the point of that battle was not to destroy the Basestar, but to buy time for the convoy\'s escape; so they were obviously playing defensively.
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Well Futurama rocked by all standards. My personal favorite is Bender the Offender.:D.
But I am not sure about Farscape. It started out good. I followed it for about 2 months or so. Then they turned it sappy and Xfile like. Half the time scorpius was either in whatshisname\'s head and half the time out of it and there it was hard to tell who\'s evil and who\'s good. They turned down the Whack bang and went heavy on mush. Half the time the peacekeeper chick was looking at the guy and thinkin about makin out but not doing it for some reason. The bad guy joined them. Moya\'s kid turned out to be a nervous wreck. It was all getting too confusing and crappy Xfiles style. Then Dargo and his son had sex with the same blue alien chick I said to hell with it and gave it up. All in all it started out good then went from sucks to Uber-sucks. How did it end?? Did the guy get back?
I hope Andromeda doesn\'t walk the same road. The only space story I have thought consistently good is Star Trek.
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Wow, yeah they definitely left Battlestar open for a new series...
Anyway, it would be pretty cool if they did start it up again; I would watch it for sure. Although I did see during one of the Scifi commercials a list of the new shows coming up, which included \"Stargate Atlantis\" which I really hope doesn\'t blow. SG-1 is such an awesome show and I want to see it go on for a long time, but I know that\'s asking a lot.
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from the previews I can say the remake was well done, well written, and looked great.
I can also say it wasn\'t Battlestar galactica. It had the same name and the characters had the same names but that was the only similarity. why couldn\'t they have called it something else and said it was inspired by the old series?
doesn\'t mean it isn\'t a good show just that is definitely isn\'t battlestar galactica.
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It wasn\'t \"different Apollo and Starbuck\" and \"everything\'s changed\"... it was set 40 years later! These were the sons and grandsons of those people! (and daughters).
Maybe that clears it up for you.