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Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: Moogie on December 21, 2003, 08:16:35 am

Title: Moogie's Art
Post by: Moogie on December 21, 2003, 08:16:35 am
Woohoo! Finally an Art forum. :) Thank you, devs!

So, I\'ll take this opportunity to gather all of my PS art in one place. Apologies for the size of some of these; if they\'re too big to view properly I\'ll shrink them. :)


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload1/black_crystal_dragon_sketch.jpg)
Black Crystal Dragon


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload1/healermoogie_skribble.jpg)
Sketch of Moogie as a healer/druid- me trying to figure out her clothes and style


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload1/moogieprofile_sketch1.jpg)
Another Moogie pose and style


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload1/moogieprofile_ink1.jpg)
Inked version of above- I don\'t like it as much


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/keep_off_the_grass.jpg)
Draklar- inspired by a little roleplay


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload2/moogie_layingdown.jpg)
Yet another Moogie sketch


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/moogie_mural.jpg)
Moogie sketch-turned-Photoshop mural


(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/Dren_Shark.jpg)
Dren Shark- Monster Concept inked
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Post by: Draklar on December 21, 2003, 10:11:28 am
Nice Mogura... 8o I like the second one...
all are great tho :P
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Post by: Tyriel on December 21, 2003, 10:24:17 am
wow Mogura wow
But ur hands together for Moogie people!!
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Post by: Nikech on December 21, 2003, 10:30:00 am
Nice, the Moogies are awesome.
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Post by: hook on December 21, 2003, 12:50:32 pm
neat :D

i like them all ...ok, the inked posing moogie is a bit so-so, but still nice work
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Post by: THAPRINZE on December 21, 2003, 02:58:12 pm
hmzzz.i can\'t see the pictures
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Post by: shangralah on December 21, 2003, 06:25:02 pm
nice art moogs  :P
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Post by: Boldstorm on December 21, 2003, 06:45:19 pm
Very nice work  :D  :D  :D
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Post by: Xalthar on December 21, 2003, 06:56:14 pm
Cool, I\'m not a great fan of their cuteness, but I admire your skill and style :)
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Post by: Xordan on December 21, 2003, 07:06:09 pm
yuh, they\'re really good. The last is the one I most like.. :D
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Post by: Harwen on December 22, 2003, 05:09:13 am
You have some very nice sketches Moogie! :))
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Post by: Skizzik on December 22, 2003, 04:21:42 pm
You are damn good at this! It\'s a welcome change from all those people who keep drawing little swords or something that look like they were drawn by a 9-year-old.
I like your style and the details (especially on the 2nd one, are you gonna ink that one?).
Bad-ass shark btw. ;)
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Post by: Moogie on December 26, 2003, 11:33:30 pm
Another Moogie. This time it\'s Moogie the Ranger/Druid Healer, seeing as I\'m in the Rangers Guild, and it\'s in full colour (the first time I\'ve ever coloured a sketch this much :) ). [Edited: Made an attempt of making her look less \'flat\', yet alot more \'Albino\'. Yes she is albino :P and in RL, I\'m an ocular albino too.]

(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/ranger_moogie_coloured3.jpg)



Edit: Here\'s a scan from when the original sketch was half completed. Yeah I know, another case of \"Wings Gone Missing\". :P

(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload3/ranger_moogie_incomplete.jpg)
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Post by: Boldstorm on December 26, 2003, 11:39:32 pm
Wow Moogie you are actually starting to motivate me to plug my scanner back in and maybe upload some pictures I\'ve done. Great work by the way  :D The color one especially looks great!
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Post by: Moogie on December 26, 2003, 11:57:49 pm
Ooh, I hope you do, I look forward to seeing them! :) I\'m glad I\'m motivating someone, hehe.
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Post by: Boldstorm on December 28, 2003, 09:15:29 pm
ARRGGHHH. Went to scan a few images in last night and forgot that I haven\'t reinstalled my scanner (Just reformated my hard drives last week). Drivers for the scanner were in storage and I couldn\'t get them and was too lazy to download them last night. I promise I will get off my lazy butt later on and get at least one or two things posted later.  :)
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on December 28, 2003, 09:56:45 pm
The last one looks great, its a shame the fur and hair look flat, you should use a kind of grey as a base colour instead of white maybe?
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Post by: Moogie on December 29, 2003, 04:40:06 pm
Okay, I\'ve improved it a little (I hope). :) Look above.
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Post by: Niber on December 29, 2003, 06:17:33 pm
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Originally posted by Mogura
Okay, I\'ve improved it a little (I hope). :) Look above.

*looks just above* ohh, yeah that Kwartz sign is really nice  :D
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Post by: Moogie on December 29, 2003, 07:17:24 pm
Hehe :P

I\'ve done yet MORE improvements to the pic. Added some pretty butterflies, a sparkle in her newly-new eyes and her ankle bangle, and fixed various lines and bumps.
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Post by: Uyaem on December 29, 2003, 08:41:46 pm
almost perfect
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on December 29, 2003, 08:52:38 pm
awww purdy butterflys =) =) I mean *puts on gruff voice* oh yes very nice... GER!
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Post by: Uyaem on December 29, 2003, 10:10:37 pm
hehe .. you gotta do something manly now to make up for that. Try spitting or farting (as women took \'shaving\' away from us, too) ;)
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Post by: Quwaar on January 08, 2004, 10:19:06 pm
the 3th pict rox0rs Dude!!! Nice work
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Post by: snow_RAveN on January 09, 2004, 05:13:16 pm
IS burping \"gone\" to !?! if it is all that coke was wasted !

anyways nice work Wish i can draw :(  all i can do is just doodle :P and draw funny boxes

:);):P:]
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Post by: Abemore on January 13, 2004, 08:21:20 am
You are so talented Moggie.  :)
Please keep posting your art for all of us to enjoy.  :)
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Post by: Kintall on January 20, 2004, 07:12:42 pm
Lovely artwork I must say, very nice indeed :)

I can see your constructing the bodies using firstly primative shapes, but you may find it helps to before that consider the space used, Ie where the character and all of their parts are in a 3D perspective then drawing simple three dimensional shapes (cylenders Spheres etc) relative to their position and  then considering  if and/or how they interact with one another. then doing the details last of all. (you allready knew that bit)  you may also do this for the face where the character has a snout, beek muzzel or anything more than the standard human sphere and jawline based head, like in the case of these lovely felines

(I sound so pretencious when I talk all arty thankfully my spellling reveals otherwise)

once again, very nice indeed :)
I hope I can earn your Critiqe in turn :)
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Post by: Moogie on January 24, 2004, 04:09:27 am
(http://upl.mine.nu/uplfolders/upload4/TorganJPG.jpg)

Torga is a random name me and some college mates thought up when I drew this in our Systems Installation class. :) As you can see, it\'s just a very sketchy... sketch. Messy, but original (as far as I know). Drawn with a biro.
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Post by: faldrok on January 24, 2004, 04:14:55 am
It is umm....hairy? Yea, that is the word. lol very nice though!

I thought about posting a pic(if you could call it that) I drew, but I fear for the eyes of my fellow Planeshifters. ;)
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Post by: Kixie on January 24, 2004, 04:17:40 am
Haha nice drawing mogura but dont quit your day job (cats). That monsters a little wierd for my tastes :P.
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Post by: Kintall on January 24, 2004, 05:48:02 am
WOW, I love the monster thing, I allways find getting the perspective on Quadruped bodies hard and getting an active feel to the animal, as well as your backgrounds, ther just peachy:) I may even ask how it is you do them as I honestly wouldnt know where to start
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Post by: Fanomatic2000 on January 24, 2004, 06:54:03 am
It looks like a cross between a werewolf and the lizardmens in Neverwinter nights, and it\'s nothing I would like to meet in a dark corner 8o

Looks great, just like the rest of your art.  :)
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Post by: Skizzik on January 24, 2004, 04:04:05 pm
That Torgan looks pretty cool. It kinda reminds me of centaurs.
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Post by: THAPRINZE on January 24, 2004, 08:23:30 pm
that is very good...only the head should be changed a little bit i think.  it\'s a bit to small i think.  But really...SO DAMN AWESOME!!
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Post by: neotepz on January 25, 2004, 03:04:49 am
these are great, i especially like the mural style one which i think looks the best ;) good work
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Post by: Quwaar on January 25, 2004, 04:55:03 am
WOW, if that is only a sketch :| Im looking forward to the final!! :D
It looks great
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Post by: Abemore on January 27, 2004, 08:40:52 am
Love it!  Draw more! :)
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Post by: snow_RAveN on January 27, 2004, 08:51:16 am
HEy its a DOG ... Ho wait its a cat  !?!  ....

AHH i got !!! it.. its ... its aa... a..   cat dog with arms, YES thats Right  :]

Keep up the good work
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Post by: Natrina on January 28, 2004, 02:53:16 pm
Hum.. The Torgan isnt going to walk in PS, is it? Or else I\'ll just keep myself within the City walls :D
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Post by: Moogie on March 02, 2004, 11:24:43 am
(http://seperot.glacious.net/moogie/images/12.jpg)

Eh, just thought I\'d stick this up here, seeing as I havn\'t done anything else for a while. Excuse my writing... my hand suddenly decided to switch to caps halfway through... that\'s the problems you face when you spend months on an ICT course, never needing to communicate in such a primitive way. :P

I hope I\'ll finish this sketch one day. I want to colour it, too. Me and Sep\'s characters are *very* contrasting in appearance and I want to eventually bring that out in this pic.
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Post by: Kintall on March 02, 2004, 11:38:45 am
oooooohhh   pwetty, its got a real feel to it, sorta nice cozy kinda thing

sorta more forward look to the one on the left with the ears and the eyes being more kinda...   strong I guess, and the one on the right is so soft and gentle

I love it, I gotta learn how to put \"feel\" in things you got it though :)
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Post by: Phinehas on March 02, 2004, 12:57:18 pm
Waaahh!!! I can\'t see any except for the one of Moog and Sep, waaahhh!!!
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Post by: Moogie on March 02, 2004, 01:02:28 pm
Yeah, upl.mine.nu has been down for a few days now. The me + Sep pic is hosted on Sep\'s own webspace though, which is why it\'s the only one that still works.

Have you noticed loads of red X\'s in people\'s sigs lately? :(
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Post by: Wedge on March 02, 2004, 01:38:00 pm
*Looks at two posts before Moogie\'s.*

*Looks at own post.*

Yep, I have.  Nore more ninjas  :( .

But yeah, jus\' clicky on Moogie\'s sig, all her art is there.
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Post by: Phinehas on March 02, 2004, 02:23:04 pm
Ooh, that was deep, can\'t believe I didn\'t figure it out. lol Thanks man.
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Post by: Skizzik on March 02, 2004, 03:15:41 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaah, how cute.  :]
Nice sketch... :tup:
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Post by: Moogie on March 04, 2004, 11:23:15 pm
Decided to do a monster today. I thought up a cool background for it and everything. Enjoy. :)


(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload9/underportal_demon.jpg)

Name: Underportal Demon
Size: See picture (Roughly 2-3 meters tall)

The Underportal Demons come from the portals through which all the races of Yliakum emmigrated. These demons come from a world called Underportal, a \'Death Realm\', where it is rumoured that the spirits of those killed by other living beings end up.

Underportal Demons sometimes escape their world and terrorize the living realm, slaughtering anything in their path, stealing their souls to regenerate their bodies. This is essential, as they cannot survive for long without sustainance outside of the Death Realm.

They are extremely aggressive and have no fear. They will beeline directly for the nearest living thing, wholly intent on killing it. If they die, their essence simply disperces and re-appears in the Death Realm. Only by killing them in their own realm can an Underportal Demon truely be vanquished.

Underportal Demons are weak against holy magic attacks, but strong against Fire and Ice magic and immune to physical attacks. It is, however, possible to attack a demon with a weapon imbued with holy magic powers.
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Post by: Kixie on March 04, 2004, 11:37:39 pm
very nice mogura, i espcially like your \"scale\" very cool although i think it shouldnt be invunerable to ALL physical attacks... kinda makes it UBER UBER
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Post by: Moogie on March 04, 2004, 11:49:41 pm
It\'s only uber uber if you\'re a warrior. ;) Priest or mage type characters wouldn\'t have much trouble banishing a demon, but they do still have to be pretty skilled, because this thing is big and tough. Fortunately, it takes alot of energy to escape the Death Realm, so you rarely see these things in the living realm.
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Post by: Kixie on March 05, 2004, 12:26:19 am
oohh now hey theres a cool idea for a character. moogie you have inspired me. hopefully the devs put alot of monsters with a weakness to holy stuff cus im gonna be a demon banisher/witch hunter guy... im thinking along renegade priest whos main strength is banishing evil spirits and stuf.... ooh i like that alot, hopefully i will have lots of fun killing your demons... *thinks about starting a post on soul trapping stuff*
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Post by: Kintall on March 05, 2004, 09:40:49 am
by crumpets thats a nice  demonic outline lookin thang

I\'d be more than interested in seeing a clearer view of ms/mr demon as the oulines nice alone

nice nice
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Post by: Moogie on March 06, 2004, 11:01:16 pm
I\'ll be doing some other angles of the demon, hopefully, and it might even get modelled for PS apparently. :)

Just an update, here\'s the current status of \'An Unexpected Embrace\':

[Edit: This one\'s been deleted from the webspace since it was posted]
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Post by: Axsyrus on March 06, 2004, 11:07:02 pm
Both look great moogie! :)

Good Luck coloring  \'An Unexpected Embrace\' ;) :P
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Post by: Xordan on March 06, 2004, 11:42:34 pm
Lol, Axsy :D Cool Sig.

As for the picture, it\'s really good. Maybe you could rename it:

\'A Unexpected Uppercut\'

Look hard and imagine a bit, and u\'ll see.  ;)
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Post by: Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner on March 08, 2004, 01:49:02 am
lol....I\'m not thinking that\'s what she had in mind ;)

By the way...great art, had fun at the party last night ^^
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Post by: Skizzik on March 08, 2004, 08:08:42 pm
Very nice monster idea, although I think that total immunity to physical attacks is BS. Maybe something would only receive like 20% damage, but total immunity should never be reached, not on any creature or player. Unless there would be some way to inflict some sort of vulnerability to certain damage types.
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Post by: Kintall on March 09, 2004, 12:20:28 am
Personally I like the null physical trait I recently hit something similar in FFX-2 ie big demon immune to physical and it really gave me a jump as I hadnt raised the magical abilitys very well so as fighters I had to be inventive and find a way to beat it

much fun
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Post by: DepthBlade on March 09, 2004, 03:59:23 am
those are cute moogie, you draw like my friend tyler.

Check out my new sig
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Post by: Skizzik on March 09, 2004, 03:17:58 pm
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Originally posted by Kintall
Personally I like the null physical trait I recently hit something similar in FFX-2 ie big demon immune to physical and it really gave me a jump as I hadnt raised the magical abilitys very well so as fighters I had to be inventive and find a way to beat it

much fun

If it was really IMMUNE to physical attacks and you only had weak magical attacks, how did you beat it?!  ?(
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Post by: Moogie on March 12, 2004, 08:42:52 pm
Here\'s a sneak peak of Unexpected Embrace in it\'s colouring stages. This is priliminary colouring... flat blocks of colour, placeholder really. It\'s extremely messy and will be untill everything\'s finished, when I\'ll clean up all the lines and fill in any missing areas. The pic already has a beautiful background, but I\'ve omitted it for this sneakpeak pic. :) Be kind!

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/unexpected_embrace_4th.jpg)
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Post by: Fenrison on March 13, 2004, 12:19:30 am
Looks great, can\'t wait to see it finished :)
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Post by: Moogie on April 03, 2004, 01:00:17 am
Just a little something I sketched today, after Seperot described his \"shadow transformation\" to me. This is Shadow Seperot, two versions for your viewing pleasure. :)

(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload1/ShadowSeperot3.jpg)

(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload1/ShadowSeperot_original.jpg)
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Post by: Saphire on April 03, 2004, 01:19:05 am
Nice wings. 8o
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 03, 2004, 01:35:57 am
wow thats great  :D  What are those two...things...hanging down across his face, at first they looked like horns, but then I thought maybe its hair...
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Post by: Moogie on April 03, 2004, 01:52:08 am
They\'re called \'bangs\', stiff spikes of hair that fall infront of the eyes. This style of fringe is found mostly in anim?-type artwork, which I tend to (try to) follow in most of my art. Thanks for the comments. :)
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 03, 2004, 02:46:03 am
Ya I know they are now, thats what I thought they were, just at a first glace, they looked like horns to me lol
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Post by: Kintall on April 03, 2004, 12:38:08 pm
I must say its a nice pic, body compositions al there and the wings are nice an fluid, one thing though the \"bangs\" dont quite fit the rest of the hair, sort of sharp Vs Flowy kinda tihng, maybe giving it a bit of a wavey thing would do it

and my nameless acoplice has stated that the head isnt quite integrated into the pic quite right, I think it may need to move further forward a tad


andywho thats my bit


:)
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Post by: KwartzTheKran on April 03, 2004, 01:23:31 pm
great stuff moogs.
bangs ey? i have them irl =)
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Post by: Wedge on April 03, 2004, 10:19:25 pm
I am the master of bangs fool.  I shall defeat all bangs that oppose me!  Think like... that guy from Radiohead that does keyboards or electronic things or whatever stuff they\'re messing around with.

Errr... sorry... just compelled to comment anytime that frontal hair region I love so much is brought up.
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Post by: Skizzik on April 04, 2004, 04:05:44 pm
An enkidukai with wings! *shivers*
What\'s next? A kran ballerina? The horror!

A very nice sketch though, are you gonna do more work on it?
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Post by: Abemore on April 05, 2004, 08:16:01 am
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What\'s next? A kran ballerina? The horror!

Aww... and I just finished choreographing The Nutcracker... I\'ll be in my room thinking of a new profession...


Great work as always Moogie.  I like the spikey saber-tooth bangs, but then again... I don\'t know anything.

Also, you have not yet posted the completed Moog&Sep \'intimate uppercut\' pic.  I\'m looking forward to seeing that background. :)
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Post by: Moogie on April 06, 2004, 01:48:14 am
Quick sketch that I drew, scanned, and photoshopped in around 30 mins. Was just a practice on poses and then some fiddling around due to boredom.

(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload2/SpellcasterMoogie.jpg)


This made me think about how PS should handle spellcasting. Most RPG games have boring little effects that swirl around you and then zap the enemy. Wouldn\'t it be great to have just a little more detail... glowing eyes or fingertips, for example. Dust swirling around your feet from the energy you\'re gathering. Blowing wind, causing your clothes to billow and ripple depending on the spell\'s strength and/or nature. Perhaps even enviromental changes, such as the light draining from the sky, or the colours in the air shifting with magic power. :) *dreams*



BTW- Yeah, I know you\'re still waiting for the final version of Embrace... unfortunately I had to format my PC several times a while ago, and I fear the file on which I was working has been lost. Perhaps I\'ll come back to the picture some time in the future, but for now, I don\'t have the patience to try and recover lost ground with it. Sorry. :(
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Post by: Camika on April 06, 2004, 01:54:18 am
the two sketches are great Moogie, I especially like the lighting effect you put on the last one.
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Post by: Icefalcon on April 06, 2004, 03:28:59 am
Woah, In that pic, Moogie almost looks...scary 8o  ...I like it :D
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Post by: Monketh on April 06, 2004, 03:36:13 am
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Originally posted by Mogura
This made me think about how PS should handle spellcasting. Most RPG games have boring little effects that swirl around you and then zap the enemy. Wouldn\'t it be great to have just a little more detail... glowing eyes or fingertips, for example. Dust swirling around your feet from the energy you\'re gathering. Blowing wind, causing your clothes to billow and ripple depending on the spell\'s strength and/or nature. Perhaps even enviromental changes, such as the light draining from the sky, or the colours in the air shifting with magic power. :) *dreams*


...and then your computer crashes. :D

Dust, glowing eyes, etc..  can be done, but once you get into billowing clothes and you have more than a few people...
The whole \'Glowing Eyes\' thing makes me thing of the Guald from Stargate. :P
Also, it would be cool if there were certain rare sci-fi elements with similar awesome effects. *dreams* XD

Nice pice, btw.  First time I\'ve ever seen a scary Moogie too.  8o
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Post by: Kintall on April 06, 2004, 05:37:34 am
well if the dev\'s can be bothered theres no reason they couldnt impliment what your saying, (SquareEnix is allready doing most of \'em)

and the pic is really lovely as well, nice photoshop touches as well

I\'d be very interested to see some more dynamic pictures from yourselfs , I\'m sure you could do it and all of us allways need the practice, that and hands..  I hate hands...

once again, nice pic :)
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Post by: Moogie on April 07, 2004, 09:58:24 pm
I\'ll take you up on that suggestion, Kintall. :) Sometimes my mind buzzes with great ideas and fantastic images that I would love to put down on paper, however my talents arn\'t extensive enough to cover more than a few basic styles/themes, which you can clearly see throughout my pics. But I will try; the next thing I sketch will be some kind of action scene... perhaps a battle or something, with more than just one figure, and some attention given to the enviroment in which it\'s taking place. I\'ll also experiment a bit with a more realistic look and see what I come up with.
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Post by: Jedi on April 07, 2004, 10:38:01 pm
Byuuuty, Clark. I do apologize for not browsing your works sooner, but my school work is very demanding at the moment. I must say that you\'ve become quite the cartoonist since I\'ve been away. Very impressive. The photoshopping is exquisite as well. Keep \'er goin\'. ;)
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Post by: Moogie on May 02, 2004, 07:32:22 pm
I decided to colour the sketch I made and posted in the Realistic Animals thread (or whatever it was called).

(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload4/wallclimberPSD_copy.jpg)

(For an explaination of what exactly this is, click here. (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=8790&boardid=13&styleid=3))

Hurray for finally figuring out how to properly colour things in Photoshop! Maybe now, I\'ll get round to finishing Unexpected Embrace... I\'ll have to completely re-do it though... hmm...

*wanders off*
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Post by: Empanado on May 02, 2004, 07:45:19 pm
O_o Nice, i really like the colors... It happens to remind me of the good ol\' Atacamenian Salamander. Keep up the good work :)


Now if you excuse me, i have work to do. Those cheeses aren\'t going to eat themselves y\'know.
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Post by: tygerwilde on May 02, 2004, 07:45:33 pm
this is all pretty good, a few need some finishing, but other than that, you\'ve got some talent moogie. I know, I\'ve seen some pretty mediocre stuff in class, and this beats quite a bit of what my classmates are doing... :))
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Post by: Kintall on May 03, 2004, 12:29:01 am
Is a House Goana, groovy groovy

It looks loike its doing the \"invisible\" lizard thing where you look strieght at them and they assure you they are completely invisible

Lizard:gwahahahaah and they dont even know I\'m here!!

Person: [poke] [poke]  I can see you!

Lizard: yes..  invisible

love the pic though, the lizard\'s texture is really good, as is the idea itself, go go hotudogu!!!
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Post by: Moogie on May 27, 2004, 06:06:47 pm
Updates:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Renti_sketch.jpg)
(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Renti_sketch3.jpg)
(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/hippy_moogie.jpg)
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Post by: Xalthar on May 27, 2004, 06:17:54 pm
That last one looks brilliant =)
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Post by: DepthBlade on May 27, 2004, 06:23:00 pm
That last one makes me think of Yuna off Final Fantasy 10 when she is doing that dance for the dead people of the destroyed village! Except she had a staff and was on water!
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Post by: Quwaar on May 27, 2004, 08:06:23 pm
great stuff, as ever, Mogura. Really love the sketch of the Renti :D
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Post by: Zeraph on May 27, 2004, 08:12:50 pm
You make such awesome things! They should make an Enkidukai Skin like that & maybe a fluffy tail mesh as part of a hairstyle for CB :)
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Post by: Abemore on May 27, 2004, 10:28:31 pm
Very aquatic looking beast.  Nicely done.  I like the loose skin around the shoulder area and the way you made it\'s bone structure prominent.  You should draw creatures more often.
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Post by: Altharion on May 27, 2004, 10:50:30 pm
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That last one makes me think of Yuna off Final Fantasy 10 when she is doing that dance for the dead people of the destroyed village! Except she had a staff and was on water!


in the beginning i got the same wibe from the high priestess as Yuna\'s sending was but if you look for any specific thing then it\'s not that same.
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Post by: Kintall on May 28, 2004, 06:07:21 am
Lovely lovely lovely, that moogie pic is utterly gorgeous, its got depth and motion, the shading is well placed and its got glowy bits!!!

if I can just lay a few small criticisms down I\'l resume the well deserved praise

one is the left shoulder joint, its gotta move up with the arm (try with your own arm and youl se that the shoulder ball joind oves up and in toward the neck)

also whaen shading its important not to leave bits out, I allmost always do and when youve brilliantly shaded the rest of the image, it really stands out


anyhow I love the pic, and the glowy bits (I\'m sure you know how thingie I am about glowy bits :))

keep up the good work :)
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Post by: Quwaar on May 28, 2004, 01:29:58 pm
well as I posted before I really loved the Renti and when I saw it I couldnt resist colouring it.

So here it is, I post this with the permission of Mogura ^^

(http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v87/niekdejong/Online/Renti.jpg)
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Post by: DepthBlade on May 28, 2004, 04:11:30 pm
Its nice like the light green fins are nice the dark green skin it is wrong just how it looks around the face, fix the face and it will be perfect!
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Post by: Monketh on May 28, 2004, 09:26:10 pm
[picky] ...somebody didn\'t clean up all their erased pencil lines completely.[/picky]

Of course, I go over the whole image.  :P


Edit: Actually, I was talking about Moogs :P
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Post by: Quwaar on May 28, 2004, 11:51:17 pm
Monk: I know, but after an hour I really had it.... I got out most of it, really, you didnt want to see it before :P

Depthblade: the head... I know, fixing it right now :P

[edit]I fixed it, kinda.... The light on the head might be a bit to much now, so I highlighted the chest and legs some more too. Got some of the pattern out of his head, it does look alot better now.

And I got some mess out my Master :)
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Post by: Miscellany on June 12, 2004, 11:44:12 am
Just wandering around, snooping in the art threads... had to stop and say there\'s some really nice creativity going on here  :))
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Post by: Zeraph on June 17, 2004, 06:00:37 pm
Cant wait to see more Mogura Artwork! :D
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Post by: Moogie on July 12, 2004, 03:45:57 pm
Sorry, I couldn\'t manage a background, so I personalised the Gryphon to be Seppie\'s flooffy flying thingy. :)

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Bloodbird.jpg)
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Post by: Jadd on July 12, 2004, 10:51:27 pm
Wow, real nice. It must\'ve been hard to do all those feathers. :)

It looks so alive and dangerous. I\'m waiting with excitement for your next work.
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Post by: icebr4kr on July 13, 2004, 12:34:22 am
Glad to see you have finished it and have added eyes! They are very nice and glossy.
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Post by: Skizzik on July 13, 2004, 06:12:05 pm
It looks better with eyes. :]
It looks alive now, before it looked like a stuffed (sp?) animal.
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Post by: Kintall on July 13, 2004, 10:03:45 pm
its FLUFFY!

[note]looks pat-able[/note]
Title: Mogura, That is excellent work!
Post by: Zeraph on July 14, 2004, 12:07:52 am
The fluffy feathers & the head make it look real!

I am not much of a 2D artist, could I possibly use the wing to texture a bird I?ll work on for planeshift?
Maybe I should try my skill & make a Gryphon-like animal?

OT: I haven?t had much free-time but now I am free & can work on some fun stuff?  :D
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Post by: DepthBlade on July 14, 2004, 01:30:19 am
Are you making money doing this? Because if you aren\'t...START!!
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Post by: Moogie on July 14, 2004, 08:11:33 pm
Taking money for doing something I love doesn\'t sit well with me unfortunately, Depth... but thanks. :)

Here\'s a quick thing I made by combining two existing drawings. the Moogie side was originally intended to serve as a tutorial (I was going to post stages of it here and explaining how I did it, etc)... but that got way too tedious.

The dragon\'s head thingy is a quick 5-min doodle to fill the space and act as the attacker in this pic. :)

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/moogieprofile_web.jpg)
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Post by: DepthBlade on July 14, 2004, 08:15:56 pm
Well when you go broke maybe you will change your mind!
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Post by: Altharion on July 14, 2004, 09:40:04 pm
she got someone that will support her that has his own house  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Moogie on July 28, 2004, 10:19:20 pm
Alth: He\'s only a lodger :P Besides, I wouldn\'t sink so low as to scrounge from my own love. I have parents for that. :D

Okies, back to the topic, you\'ll find a few pics missing out of this thread. If you want to find them again, they\'re all listed here (http://www.seperot.com/moogie) on my website.

Plus I just found this... it\'s pretty old, it was going to be the main figure in the CB splash screen when Talad originally gave me the task... but gaahhh, he wanted me to draw a scene, and I suck at scenes. The figure was all coloured and everything but I can\'t find that version, so here she is in all her pencilly... thingyness.

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/27.jpg)


On that note I might aswell post my second attempt at a CB splash screen, which was rejected due to its \"difference in style\" to the existing PS art. :(

http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/28.jpg
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Post by: Psybur on July 29, 2004, 03:48:57 am
Bah, 28.jpg is a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better splash screen ;_; It doesnt matter if it is DIFFERENT it is just BETTER D::::::::
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Post by: Moogie on August 08, 2004, 02:57:38 am
I had a Neopets (http://www.neopets.com) account. Mad_Moogle, I was; that account is 43 months old now. That\'s almost four years of playing time, on and off. I had a beautiful little Draik (dragon)... black, with firey flamey patterns. 611 days old today.

Why am I saying this? Two days ago my account was stolen. Lost everything... lost all my points... items... and my little Draik. My little pretty dragon...

A few days previous to the hijack, I entered him into the site\'s beauty contest; you draw a picture of your pet and submit it, then other people can vote for the best picture and the pet wins a little trophy.

Here\'s Mogura Koumori\'s picture that I entered for him:
(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/mogurakoumori.gif)

I\'ll never win that competition now. But perhaps the person who now owns my little dragon will. I\'m glad that a nice, friendly, caring person managed to pick up my dragon from the adoption center... If you have a Neopets account, please vote for him. It\'s the last thing I want to see happen, before I quit something I\'ve spent four years of my life playing. Thank you.

*leaves sadly*
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 08, 2004, 04:03:52 am
Sad 4 years ruined...experienced something like that and I know exactly how you are feeling...nice picture.
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Post by: FESFES on August 08, 2004, 09:40:06 am
WOW that last one is really REALLY good.....I couldn\'t draw a stick man if my life depended on it =(

Moggie that really sucks about what happend to you you\'ve got great talent though and if even if you don\'t win you should know that you\'ve got real talent
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Post by: Moogie on August 10, 2004, 01:52:20 am
(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/scribblier_web.jpg)

Moogie shouldn\'t dabble in things like this... she may be able to summon it, but like hell can she actually control it... :P


[Edit: And I have no idea why she can summon massive pit demons from Hell... maybe she\'s not telling us something... o.o]
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Post by: Jadd on August 10, 2004, 02:55:03 am
\"I said \'Lemonsmell\', not \'demon from hell\'. Darn, I must pronounce it better...\"

Ah, so Moogie specialize in the Dark way? I though she was only able to summon cute and fluffy animals, but it looks like I was wrong ;)

It\'s a very nice picture by the way. I especially like how you have caught the hair-motion, the lights looks really good, and the demon looks really nasty. A fine piece of art there :)
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Post by: smoak on August 10, 2004, 03:52:23 am
what do you mean Jadd, that dosent look cute and fluffy to you?
but really, great drawing, the coloration around the eye is interesting.
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Post by: Moogie on August 10, 2004, 04:51:50 am
Yeah, the layers started to act strangely, that\'s actually a partially transparent lense flare showing a bit of the cloudy background... :S Not quite sure how that happened.

\'Tisn\'t much of an \"effort\" pic, more like another little playaround like my Aliathi profile pose (http://www.seperot.com/aliathi/moogie_profile.jpg). I doubt Moogie could do this in reality- she has no skills in casting magic of the Dark Way, so maybe it\'s just a dream... or a nightmare.


Edit: Might aswell stick the original pic of Moogie that I used in the above \'nightmare\' scene here. :)

http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/scribble.jpg
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Post by: DepthBlade on August 10, 2004, 06:42:20 am
Big ugly thing! USE THE DAGGER IN ITS EYE!!!
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Post by: Neschama on August 22, 2004, 10:09:21 pm
Hi there
Time to die  -^^v

Your stuff reminds me  of my own art  few years ago,
 well theres some general tips id like to give ya and one is realy important to me :
don\'t use photoshop ,I know this sounds hard but if you realy want to use it get an artpad, and  if youre using it forget all those efects its the most worse thing you can do, it will just damage your art, please trust me in this point.
Another thing is drawing means understanding, without knowlege you wont be able to draw any better, so try to draw a lot from life, if you wana become better at human  shaped bodies sketch humans from life, attend life drawing classes, which are great fun by the way, there is no other way to get rid of those problems, i realized this 2 years ago, dont make the same mistake...

well theres the kylros or however this thing is spelled

(http://friedrich.peschel.biz/galerie/galleries/rest/27%20copy.jpg)

there are quiet a lot issues so I just sketchet some baisic shapes over the whole thing, there are alot  possible poses  ive choose this one considering the arm with the sabre it might look  this way.
The major change was twistiting the torso slightly in order to get the arm in the right position,
The legs are to short usualy 1/2 of the body

To get smoe authentic folds you need to know where the legs are, even guys like Da Vinci or Michelangelo sketched their figures naked bevore they dressed them up,

Dont focus that much on the out line, try to imagine youre sketching something with volume, there is no outline in rl anyway...

As I said your art is very similar to my stuff  those days, I ve  a Mentor who thought me alot about art an is still, and thats prity  the same thing he told me 2 years ago ^^

I hope this will help ya, If theres something that might offend you - it wasnt meant that way

keep drawing
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Post by: Moogie on August 24, 2004, 06:52:27 am
Thank you, it\'s a real pleasure to see a sort of \'professional\' critisism (professional compared to just the general \"I like/don\'t like\", anyway) and your advice is muchly appreciated. :) It\'s obvious that you have had proper art classes and know what you\'re saying, and the way you explain with the sketched-over drawing is extremely useful (I even learned a few things by studying your advice to Kayruu).

You havn\'t posted any artwork here yet, have you? If you have I think I must\'ve missed it... well, anyways, I\'d love to see some examples. :)
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Post by: Kintall on August 24, 2004, 04:43:44 pm
Hmm... I must say I am very much in agreeance with Neschama, on all but the Photoshop usage, but that comes more to personal preference than a technical fault, whilst I will admit there are more than a few \"filter junkies\" out there who rely on the inbuilt features of Photoshop to gloss over the failures in their skills, there are also some brilliant digital artists out there, some budding ones too, these may range from those who (like myself) use both traditional mediums as well as Photoshop, to those who use digital mediums alone to accomplish their work.

One other flaw I often see in excessive Photoshop use is the inherent laziness that comes with automation or computerization, where one uses the labor saving aspect of technology to the point where they no longer know, or are confident how to perform that task any longer

And as far as what Neschama said about strengthening the basics, I cannot possibly agree more, no artist in the world is truly \"complete\" in his ability to depict the inherent depth in the simplicities of the human form
On such example was a set of two paintings I once saw, each of them depicting a hand one closed and another open. The first was amazing in its show of anger and destruction... shown by a simple fist, the second was as I said a simple open hand but showed a kindness seldom seen in full figure artworks

So yeah...  master the basics... (You never will but I think tiring is the point) and don?t become complacent


gosh youve gotten better since I been away..
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Post by: Icefalcon on August 25, 2004, 01:53:05 am
@Kintall - its about time you showed up again.

@everyone else - Kintall it one of those \"brilliant digital artists out there\"

@Moogie That pose in your nightmare scene is awesome! I wish I could do that... /me drools

And about that splash screen. Personally, I thought Nanaki\'s was a little...well, boring. The characters look great, but it needs something more. Your\'s however is very cool, I think the only reason it was rejected was because it had no characters. I think if you and Nanaki would combine your splash screens, it would be amazing. What I really like are those circles.

Lets see, what else. Your Klyros definately had something wrong with it, as Neschama pointed out and fixed. You should redo that pic.
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Post by: Neschama on August 29, 2004, 03:21:43 pm
Ill post something into my thread tonight...
Title: Evolution of SpeedySep
Post by: Moogie on October 06, 2004, 08:46:53 pm
New mini project, loosely titled \'Speedysep\'. This will, if finished, hopefully become a t-shirt print for Seppie himself to wear. :)

At first, like most of my pictures, it started as a random scribble. I had this picture in my head of Seperot sprinting his way through the center of a massive battle, sword dragging along the ground behind him sending sparks everywhere, as pterosaur riders closed in from above to attack.

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep.jpg)

So as you can see, it was pretty crappy. But I showed Sep, and he liked the idea, and mentioned it\'d be a good tshirt design, so I carried on... O.o

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep2.jpg)

...

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_preview.jpg)

etc...

Anyways, still unfinished. Ya I know the legs look weird. Ya, the sword is about to be scrubbed and re-drawn. Ya, it\'s gonna have more detail. :P Oh, and ya, I decided to get rid of the pterosaurs and the battle/flames, it\'s alot simpler this way. :P
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Post by: ArcaneFalcon on October 06, 2004, 10:15:18 pm
Imho it looked better with the flames behind and the smoke in front, but that\'s just me.  Regardless, it looks great!

*wonders if he can get some concept art out of moogie :D

:emerald:
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Post by: Enter_the_Xero on October 07, 2004, 12:02:38 am
Whoa! Fantastic!

Question: What program(s) did you use?
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Post by: Icefalcon on October 07, 2004, 01:00:12 am
The difference between your first and second pic is amazing. At first I was thinking, this one is going to suck ( :rolleyes: ) But then...
Thats just so cool Moogie.

And I gotta see a pic of Sep wearing the final product! :D
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Post by: seperot on October 07, 2004, 01:07:23 am
oh you will do :) it wont be till a end of a month (depending on when moogie finishs) as thats when i get paid :P
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Post by: Efflixi Aduro on October 07, 2004, 06:35:28 am
Great pic!
Its how I imagined a cartoon sep cat version. :)
The only thing that seemed off was that the legs are too long for a cat like creature. Just my opinion though. And it still looks gret.
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Post by: Moogie on October 07, 2004, 02:25:40 pm
Thanks all. :) As always, I\'m using Photoshop. This time it\'s Photoshop CS actually, but I\'m not using anything that isn\'t already in older versions of the program.

I\'ve fiddled with the legs a bit and put the sword back in at a lower angle so it\'s actually touching the ground infront of his feet. Shiny bits and sparks will come later. ;)

You can see the fiddled version here. (http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing3.jpg)


Oh, and btw, I do plan to put the fire and smoke back. :)


*Edits the link because it was wrong*
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Post by: Golbez on October 07, 2004, 02:45:25 pm
I liked the composition in the first two stages, I consider that by removing the fire and pterosaur the plane looks a bit empty. So I would recommend thinking about some distinct detail added to counter the weight of Seperot\'s presence at the bottom half.

Considering that this is just a digital sketch so far, it is not necessary to go into much details. But I think the front leg is a tad too long. Considering the laws of proportion and anatomy, I would say that Seperot\'s front foot, in that particular position, would not be touching the ground. And the tail is a segment too long in my opinion, but that is more of a subjective preference.

The position of the protagonist is neat and fluid. The sensation of movement is clear, and characteristic of anime scenes (Which is good! Anime and manga can be beautifully dynamic). The lines of the hair and tail are correctly resolved, as is the weapon\'s inclination.

The fact that the friction between the blade and the grass somehow manages to produce sparks has a bit of a weird-looking effect, in my opinion. Though many admirable artistic compositions have as a quirk the transgression of physical laws.

I\'ll look forward to the final version. ^_^

That looks like PhotoShop work to me. Was that what you used?

And of course, all criticism I offer is aimed to be productive, not destructive. Not that I consider myself an eminence on the subject, but being graphic design my main object of study, I am prone to this sort of analytical observation of people\'s artwork.

Keep the fanart coming!

- Golbez

EDIT: Yes, you used Photoshop. Silly me that I didn\'t read the last post.
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Post by: ArcaneFalcon on October 07, 2004, 04:49:36 pm
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Oh, and btw, I do plan to put the fire and smoke back.


*cheers
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Post by: DepthBlade on October 07, 2004, 05:36:28 pm
Can you remeber FF8 beginning movie with the battle sequence with Seifer and Squall, that stance with the blade running against the ground. Simular and the character is Sephiroth from FF7. I like how everything comes from the Final Fantasy Series :) Still really nice
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Post by: Moogie on October 08, 2004, 07:47:35 pm
Thanks for the c&c, Golbez. :) Did you see the link in the post you missed when you first replied? I altered the legs and feet slightly there, so they should look a tad better now.

The grass is just placeholder right now, by the way. It just happened to be a green colour selected when I slapped down the floor. :) Also, the sword correctly touches the ground infront of Seperot in the latest version. His torso is turned and his arms are pulled taught infront of him, which means the sword is not so much being carried, but being dragged, as a heavy object (That\'s the effect I wanted anyway; does it look so?).
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Post by: Moogie on October 08, 2004, 11:00:47 pm
Update:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing5.jpg)


To do:



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To save me *triple* posting, my next update goes here. :P

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing6.jpg)

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Post by: smoak on October 09, 2004, 12:41:21 am
that looks cool, my compliments on thinking of the tail bone thing.
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Post by: Uyaem on October 09, 2004, 01:30:05 am
Yep, definitely a big improvement between the last two \"versions\", although the difference lies in detail.
- dark red on the clothes looks better imho
- the additional lighting does give it a more plastic, three dimensional look. Same on the shirt/armour thing.

Suggestions:
- try to do something similar with the blade like what you did with the hair. It still looks a little too plain/flat/bright/white, especially compared to the rest.

:diamond: :diamond:
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Post by: Moogie on October 09, 2004, 02:48:00 am
Update:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing7.jpg)

Got rid of the skull, as per Seppie\'s request ;), and... well, did a whole bunch of stuff. The symbol on the blade is my signature. The word on the tassel says \"Sep\". This is fun. :)
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Post by: Icefalcon on October 09, 2004, 03:14:26 am
That looks great moogie, the armor is awesome.

One thing I would change is his mouth or facial expression. I liked it better in your sketch with a grim determination expression rather than a maniacal grin on his face. Just my opinion...
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Post by: Adeli on October 09, 2004, 03:23:30 am
This is really good, I must admit, I was doubtful of first, though I did like the tattered samurai-ish Seperot with the flames.

How did you get so good?
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Post by: Moogie on October 09, 2004, 03:33:05 am
Adeli: 14 years and the 7 pages of this thread for practice. Practice practice practice! :D


Still to do:

Flames
Smoke
Ground
Stuff
Things
Odds
Ends
Penguins
Bunnies eating penguins
etc...
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Post by: Adeli on October 09, 2004, 03:35:34 am
Well, your practise has definitely paid off.

Hmm \"Bunnies eating penguins\"? Haha, that sounds amusing.

Edit: Are you guys having fun testing? I imagine it\'s a lot of hard work.
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Post by: Moogie on October 09, 2004, 03:47:08 am
Well I try to share what I\'ve learned in the way I present my work. This is a perfect example, posting pics all the way back to the original sketch, to show exactly how my thoughts and ideas flowed, what order I built things up in, etc. I want people to see and understand how it happened, and maybe some of them will realise \"hey, it\'s not all that hard when you look at it that way\". :)

As for the CB testing, things are a little slow right now. The good news is, we\'ve eliminated almost all of the crashes that are capable of bringing the server down. I think we\'ll only find more when more testers are let in to cause more server stress. We\'ve tested new maps, new features, new player models, combat, ingame merchants, and the enhanced NPCs (although they are currently mute, due to bugs). I\'d say more, but then I\'d be shot, and you\'d be next. ;)
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Post by: Zeraph on October 09, 2004, 06:13:22 am
That last one of sep is great!
You are talented with Photoshop!  :D
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Post by: Moogie on October 09, 2004, 08:53:27 pm
Hmm, okay, this time I need some opinions about the background.

As you know, this is gonna be a t-shirt print. I want to keep the focus on Seperot, so I don\'t want to go into any/much detail with the surroundings. However, I\'m not happy with the current sudden floor/fire split, and I don\'t know how to make it look better.

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing8.jpg)

(New to this version are the sparks, some extra shine on the katana blade, and also I re-drew his foot into a more natural position. Oh, and obviously the stone ground and fire... blaahh)
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Post by: ArcaneFalcon on October 09, 2004, 09:03:50 pm
Possibly add some burning rubble?  Put some pieces of rubble in front of others to give depth to the flames and break up the sudden rock floor/fire split.  I\'d give you a quick example, but I\'m trying to write a paper :P

:emerald:
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Post by: smoak on October 09, 2004, 09:06:28 pm
very nice, i like the notched blade. as for the floor fire thing maybe you could show something burning, is he in a town or an open area? maybe some dry grasslands near the back would make it more realistic
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Post by: Enter_the_Xero on October 09, 2004, 09:20:33 pm
WOW... WOW...

How about a burning village in the background? and make it blurry becouse the warrior is charging at someone. (You know when someone is going by very fast, you only see a blur)

PS,
The feet need more work...
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Post by: seperot on October 09, 2004, 09:57:20 pm
teh......uber :D

i love it ^.^ sep is just right

s for the fire ness just set some houses on fire and mebbie a woman burning and running screaming....:D
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Post by: Icefalcon on October 10, 2004, 12:05:27 am
Possibly put a few flames in front of Sep, it will look more natural, but it might be hard to keep the whole Sep visible.
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Post by: Adeli on October 10, 2004, 05:31:57 am
Yeah, I like the way you do step by steps of your artwork. Tutorials like that are the easiest way to learn.

[complain]except when your 3dsmax6 crashes every time you try to render an .avi[/complain]

OT: any ideas about that anyone?

Hmm... I like the new image, and definitely agree with the dislike of the floor/fire split. I think the idea of burning rubble is good, or you could have the fire closing off the back as if Sep was running from it. (Enkis and flames = bad idea after all)

As for the testing, that was more than I expected to hear, thankyou it\'s nice to have some news. I was anticipating a \"it\'s hard work but good\" response, or even a \"NDA\" response.
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Post by: Golbez on October 10, 2004, 04:26:21 pm
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Originally posted by Moogie
Hmm, okay, this time I need some opinions about the background.

As you know, this is gonna be a t-shirt print. I want to keep the focus on Seperot, so I don\'t want to go into any/much detail with the surroundings. However, I\'m not happy with the current sudden floor/fire split, and I don\'t know how to make it look better.


Well, I am positively impressed by the quality of the new details. But I will jump right into those little things that render me a bit uneasy.

The front leg still seems to me to be slightly longer than the other. I suggest trying to reproduce the pose in front of a mirror: Grab a chair or something to lean on, and tilt your body to the angle Seperot has in his running stance (Careful! I almost chip a tooth in this one!). Then bend your front leg at a bit less than 90? degrees, and see where your foot ends. I personally found it is more distanced from the ground, and located more to the left of the picture. However, the author is the one to decide, since the new trend in cartoons and modern animation is NOT to respect proportions so strictly, sacrificing accuracy in exchange for visual effect (Take Samurai Jack, for example).

I tried drawing two lines using Illustrator, to measure the height of Seperot in comparison to the length of the tail. I found that the character\'s full height (A bit more than seven heads, which means it is very balanced), was almost the same as the tail at full extension (The tail was a bit less than seven heads long). I, personally, would shorten the tail somewhat. And in addition, I believe the bones clasping the tail would make it a tad heavier, I think. Although that one is a much more subjective opinion than measuring proportions, and I could easily accept its position as it is.

A ground-level cloud of smoke could be useful to your ground/fire separation. Rule of thumb says that if the division is too brusque, fading the borderline is a viable option. Another is the aforementioned piles of rubble, that would indicate more explicitly that a structure is actually burning.

The hair seems to be a single united mass in movement. Taking a quick peek at some anime pictures (Japanese artists have an enormous talent at drawing hair in motion) could perhaps give you some ideas. Then again, it is once more my personal taste.

A few yellowish highlights on the armour, reflecting the blazes, could make the composition look more thorough. If considered, it should be a final touch, a coup de grace if you want, and then I would ponder if the effect is actually positive or detrimental to the composition.

Other than that, the blade and armour look great, and the detail is quite fascinating. I like the new position of the back foot, and the dynamic sensation portrayed by the artwork.

I am often quite critical of 100% CG images, because I feel the \"hand\" of the artist is quite usually lost (Which is why I ink my drawings and scan them for colouring. Or I would, if the darn scanner worked). But I find that Moogie\'s result is pleasing, harmonious, and easy to the eye.

- Golby, the picky one prone to over-analysing everything
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Post by: Moogie on October 10, 2004, 05:10:46 pm
Thank you again Golby, your critique is always welcome. :)

It\'s true that I often focus more on the style and effect of a figure than going to all efforts in making proportions correct. Part of the reason this happens is because most of my sketches start off as those crappy scribbles :D and sometimes I neglect to properly align and measure the bones. As such, I havn\'t had much practice at that anyway, so I\'m not all too good at it.

The mist sounds like a good idea, as do all the burning rubble/building suggestions. I\'ll play around with those. :)

I agree about the hair, by the way, but I\'m not sure if I\'ll try changing it on this picture. I need to learn and practice some techniques with that first, and I think I\'ll just end up ruining this pic if I tried now. :P


Thanks all again for commenting, and don\'t forget to stop by here (http://planeshift.oodlz.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=10591&boardid=22&styleid=3). ;)
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Post by: ArcaneFalcon on October 10, 2004, 09:47:37 pm
Out of curiosity, how many layers does this picture have?  If I were doing it I would probably have hundreds...probably because I would keep screwing up :P  Can\'t you just try to experiment with the hair on a new layer?  I took a photoshop class and got a bunch of links to tuts and one was about hand painting realistic hair, I\'ll see if I can find it.

:emerald:

edit: I couldn\'t find the tutorial I wanted.  There are tons of others on google though, just do a search for \"photoshop hair.\"

:emerald:
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Post by: Moogie on October 10, 2004, 11:35:41 pm
Currently, the PSD has 20 layers. However, a few of these layers have been merged, such as the one called \"bits and bobs\", which contains claws, metal studs, the bracers, bits of the hands, sword hilt... etc. :P

Just for fun, here\'s what it looks like with the main Seperot layer disabled:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_nosep.jpg)


:D
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Post by: DepthBlade on October 10, 2004, 11:53:16 pm
lol its the killer ghost with fancy accesories. A ghost with style is a good ghost :)
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Post by: lone_warrior on October 11, 2004, 07:00:04 am
judging by what i read so far, those pictures must be good, its a shame i cant see them though ><...but still...it sounds like you did a good job :D
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Post by: Quwaar on October 11, 2004, 07:18:40 pm
wooo mogie is at it again :)  Great work mogie, cant say different then great!

For al the layers you might want to try and use folders, that cleans it all up big time. I use them always now, when I hit the 5layer for the first time I just HAD to use them :P

nice work! :)
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Post by: Seytra on October 12, 2004, 03:19:09 am
This looks really cool!

However, what is the yellow thing?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/Seytra/Planeshift/mogura-drawing.jpg)

To me it looks like a cable, with 7 wires sticking out at the end... :D
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Post by: Moogie on October 12, 2004, 03:46:51 am
That\'s attatched to the hilt of the Katana. Sep says that his character grabs this sometimes in mid-combat and uses it to swing his sword around at high speeds and cut people down from all sides. :)

Edit: Wait a second... I didn\'t post my latest version? Pssh. Well actually you can pretty much see what changes I made in that last pic I posted. It has the burning rubble in the foreground/background which almost makes it look like a pathway, and there\'s mist on the ground.

Wait a sec, lemme see where the pic is...

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/speedsep_testing9.jpg)
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Post by: Adeli on October 12, 2004, 08:57:20 am
I like the new mist, and I agree that a ghost with style is a good ghost.

I still think the contrast between back and foreground is too great, that may just be me though.

Above all, great work Moogie, it\'s coming along very nicely.
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Post by: Icefalcon on October 20, 2004, 02:05:32 am
*bump*

*reminds Moggie about her thread and demands an update*

 :D
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Post by: Moogie on December 26, 2004, 04:13:50 am
Christmas has finally come, and with it, my art tablet!! I\'m so happy! :D

It\'s kinda hard to draw with it atm, as I have to press pretty darn hard to get a dark line, and I have no idea how to change sensitivity options. Anyways..

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/firsttabletdrawing.jpg)

Hardly fanart, I know, but that\'s my first ever tablet drawing, so it feels kinda special to me. :)


Edit: I felt bad giving such a bad picture as my first... so here\'s my second, to say sorry. ;)

(http://img65.exs.cx/img65/438/tabletdrawing23ro.jpg)
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Post by: DarkArchon on December 26, 2004, 09:35:01 pm
WOW !! Moogie those arts are very nice !! I wish i could draw like that  :rolleyes:  :(
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Post by: Keyaz on December 26, 2004, 09:42:45 pm
my tablet art sux compared to yours :(
nice going :tup:
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Post by: dragonfire999 on December 27, 2004, 12:42:21 am
8o  8o  8o  8o  8o  8o  8o  8o  8o
uhhh moog
how much did that cost 8o
its cool
i want art tablet  :rolleyes:
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Post by: sashok on December 27, 2004, 01:14:04 am
I love the top drawing, Great job.  It\'s very creative :)

The bottom one is skilled too gj
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Post by: Kintall on December 27, 2004, 07:04:17 pm
arent art tablets a wonderful and lovely thing, U has improved  much much... gotta poke my head in here more often if ye keep that up :)
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Post by: Moogie on December 27, 2004, 07:28:41 pm
That bottom one took just 10 minutes! Because I could do all the sketching and colouring right after eachother. I love my tablet! :D

It cost ?65, by the way. It\'s a Trust 1200, which is 12x9 inches. Very very good, very big, and comes with a cool mouse that has velvet on the bottom instead of a ball. :) *strokes the velvet*

Once I get more used to using this, I\'ll be doing Really Big Things (tm), just you wait. ^^
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Post by: Kixie on December 27, 2004, 09:21:51 pm
Congratz on the tablet, lots of people with them tell me that they enjoy them very much. Your art already looks a large deal better on the tablet, so I\'m very excited to see new works any moment now.  :D
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 27, 2004, 11:44:41 pm
Look, it\'s a lynx!  :D  :tup:
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Post by: Quwaar on December 28, 2004, 12:30:28 pm
wooo tablets are nice! Got one too, I really like it. I only mouse for games.

Congratz anyways :) But the second pict don work :( Ill check in later, perhaps it works then :D


Good luck practicing, youll need it :) I know I did
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Post by: Cherppow on December 29, 2004, 04:11:54 am
Hello!

Congratulations! I have a Wacom tablet, but it\'s propably the smallest one on the market, which limits its use. I admire the way you handle the fur. The dragon looks very much like the creature in CB loading screen. :)

As you advised, I added US English keyboard layout from the control panel, to accompany my default Finnish one. This indeed enabled the use of slash and other previously unusable characters. In addition, it was possible to switch between layouts while in the game.

- Edit -
It seems that the keyboard problem has been fixed in the new update. I\'d recommend it to everybody who\'s been having trouble typing special characters such as @ / : and ) .

Ps. Thanks again for the help! Some screenshots of Cherppow\'s further exploits can be found in the Hydlaa Plaza forum. More exactly in http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=12229&boardid=19&page=2.
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Post by: Moogie on January 08, 2005, 01:23:18 am
Been doing this on my tablet today. :) Tell me what you think.

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/moogiebow_sketch5.jpg)

You can also see 4, 3, 2 and (1 doesn\'t have the number 1, just the name moogiebow_sketch). :P
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Post by: Skizzik on January 08, 2005, 01:42:42 am
Ahhhh I see it\'s finished. You\'ve also straightened the left arm a bit, looks better now. :)

Very nice sketch Moogie.
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Post by: Moogie on January 08, 2005, 02:47:13 am
I\'m also doing a request piece that someone asked me for too long ago. :P Bare in mind this is one of my \"first sketch\" things... it won\'t look that good yet.

http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/teejay1.jpg
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Post by: Syzerian on January 08, 2005, 02:50:00 am
Wearing a wedding dress while going hunting eh?
Very nice pic except for the hands, they lack detail and seem very flat.
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Post by: Moogie on January 08, 2005, 02:54:12 am
I agree, I\'ll probably fix that after I go get some snacks. :) Thanks for pointing it out. I don\'t want to add too much other detail, but is there anything else that looks strange that I could take a look at at the same time?
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Post by: Syzerian on January 08, 2005, 02:59:06 am
Well the face also lacks quite alot of detail and like the hands, the head just look like its pasted on there. You need to apply some shading around the bottom of the head like you did with the arms.
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Post by: Icefalcon on January 08, 2005, 03:13:23 am
It might just be me, but the beasts back right foot looks out of place. To me it looks like some of it\'s leg should be showing under its belly.

Otherwise, it looks awesome.
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Post by: Under the moon on January 08, 2005, 03:45:37 am
Nice work! :)  I love the bowstance.  Who says she\'s going hunting?  Maybe Sep said something wrong at a quiet candle lit dinner, and now he\'s up a tree. :D  She does look a little angry.  Don\'t hurt him too bad!

*edit* Is the arrow on the wrong side of the bow?Example (http://www.aemma.org/training/archery/images/davidShootingRange.jpg)
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Post by: Icefalcon on January 08, 2005, 04:13:39 am
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Originally posted by Under the moon
*edit* Is the arrow on the wrong side of the bow?Example (http://www.aemma.org/training/archery/images/davidShootingRange.jpg)

Now that you mention it, yes it is. If you pull back with your right hand, the arrow goes on the left side.
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Post by: Hatchnet on January 08, 2005, 07:36:28 am
The arrows fine most medieval bows had the rest on the same side of the bow as the hand drawing and indian bows did this as well. It promotes rapid fire and contrary to popular belife does not harm accuracy. As a matter of fact though my current bow (a compound and nessasary) has an opposit rest I prefer a same rest so that I don\'t have to reposition my bow every time I nock an arrow.
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Post by: Syzerian on January 08, 2005, 07:55:11 am
When I use a bow I prefer to have it the may Moogie drew it and have the bow on a 45 degree angle and I usually use my thumb as a rest. You can pretty much fire a bow anyway you want except horizontal can be awkward unless your firing down.
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Post by: Moogie on January 08, 2005, 10:16:31 pm
How\'s this? I\'ve added shading to the hand and face, and generally all over. I want to keep the image looking quite soft and sketchy, rather than try and overblow it with realism- not really my style. :) But I do hope the details are looking a bit better now.

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/moogiebow_sketch6.jpg)
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Post by: Kixie on January 08, 2005, 11:04:39 pm
Maybe a bit more green tint behind the veils and thin whisps of garment near the waist. Kind of just looks like lines atm instead of thin clear mesh.
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Post by: Moogie on January 16, 2005, 02:48:10 am
Updates:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/rapt_head.jpg)

15-minute sketch. No critisisms on this please... I know it has alot wrong with it and I don\'t plan on doing anything about it. :)

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/kixie.jpg)

With Karyuu\'s permission, and at kixie\'s request, I coloured this sketch. I did not do the lineart. *points at the talented kittie Kary*
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Post by: Kixie on January 16, 2005, 03:26:28 am
:(  And I\'ve yet to make a good signature with it...
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Post by: Monketh on January 16, 2005, 05:16:59 am
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Originally posted by Kixie
:(  And I\'ve yet to make a good signature with it...


Want me to give it a go?
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Post by: Kixie on January 16, 2005, 06:00:37 am
Quote
Originally posted by Monketh
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Originally posted by Kixie
:(  And I\'ve yet to make a good signature with it...


Want me to give it a go?

Sure thanks, if your up to it.
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Post by: Hatchnet on January 16, 2005, 07:19:11 am
Wow Ilike that one of Kixie both you and Karyuu did a great job on that one.
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Post by: Monketh on January 16, 2005, 09:30:59 pm
Since this is Moogura\'s art thread, I\'ll put it in mine.
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Post by: Moogie on January 19, 2005, 05:19:58 am
I did a little 5-minute picture as a present to Seppie just now, since I\'m feeling peculiarly lovey today. :) *hugs Sep*

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Cuddle Me.jpg)
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Post by: confused on January 19, 2005, 06:22:00 am
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Originally posted by Moogie
With Karyuu\'s permission, and at kixie\'s request, I coloured this sketch. I did not do the lineart. *points at the talented kittie Kary*


Well the end result is impressive, of two artists. I was just about to ask Kixie it artist blood ran through the veins once I saw the new signature image for Kixie. This surely explains who was responsible for the nice looking signature image.
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Post by: confused on January 19, 2005, 06:27:33 am
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Originally posted by Moogie
Christmas has finally come, and with it, my art tablet!! I\'m so happy! :D
:
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(http://img65.exs.cx/img65/438/tabletdrawing23ro.jpg)


Let me guess you love cats and probably own a few cats. Anyway the drawing is good for your 2nd attempt using a tablet. People I know give praise to their tablets all the time.
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Post by: SirExelciuse on January 22, 2005, 09:02:01 pm
You are an awsome artist and you have some GREAT ideas!! I hope you plan on makin a career out of it.
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Post by: Kixie on January 22, 2005, 10:44:36 pm
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Originally posted by confused
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Originally posted by Moogie
With Karyuu\'s permission, and at kixie\'s request, I coloured this sketch. I did not do the lineart. *points at the talented kittie Kary*


Well the end result is impressive, of two artists. I was just about to ask Kixie it artist blood ran through the veins once I saw the new signature image for Kixie. This surely explains who was responsible for the nice looking signature image.

What about monk? He did a fantastic job compiling it together and making the background image. Looks fabulous btw.
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Post by: Icefalcon on January 23, 2005, 04:25:12 am
The only thing I don\'t like is the spraypaint words, but thats just my opinion. The rest does look really good.
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Post by: JellyWerker on January 23, 2005, 05:14:09 am
Very nice art, me likee :D But a lot of the pictures don\'t seem to load.
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Post by: Moogie on January 23, 2005, 05:07:21 pm
Ya, many of them are old. For a complete listing (which is always up-to-date even if I havn\'t posted here yet), go here:

http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/
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Post by: Monketh on January 23, 2005, 07:03:10 pm
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Originally posted by Icefalcon
The only thing I don\'t like is the spraypaint words, but thats just my opinion. The rest does look really good.


Yeah, that happened when I shrunk the text.
But if anyone want to discuss that, this isn\'t the thread.
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Post by: JellyWerker on January 23, 2005, 09:40:59 pm
Thanks, that works, but the main part of your site seems to have been defaced, too bad. I have seen many sights like that, it\'s a server worm going around.
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Post by: Moogie on January 26, 2005, 06:24:02 pm
Jelly: I know, it\'s been like that for months. I\'m making a new site. :)


Okies, yesterday I taught myself some ways to create realistic fur, so I did this:

(http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Real_Enki3.jpg)

The reason the clothes look weird is because she didn\'t originally have any. :P If nudity isn\'t your thing, or if you\'re young, don\'t look  (http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Real_Enki.jpg) at it.
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Post by: fken on January 26, 2005, 07:23:51 pm
lol moogie moogie moogie... has your cat some clothes?

very beautiful art off course!
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Post by: Seytra on January 26, 2005, 08:24:33 pm
It looks good. However, I have one or four things I\'d like to specificly comment on:
1) The hair. It is AFAIK highly uncommon for cats to have longer hair on the head than everywhere else. It looks good, but at the same time somewhat out of place.

2) The fangs. I know of no cat that has them visible with the mouth shut.

3) The nose / upper mouth / whatever thingy IMO is too wide. It looks somewhat like a cow. ;)

4) The fur on the front: On conventional cats, it isn\'t shorter or thinner than elsewhere on the body.

Of course you could just say \"it\'s an Enki, not a normal cat\", but... :P

Apart from that, I like it. :tup:
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Post by: leinir on January 26, 2005, 08:27:08 pm
Seytra, you have interesting points but seem to miss the most blaringly obvious one: Conventional cats do not walk on their hind legs ;)
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Post by: Moogie on January 26, 2005, 10:59:34 pm
I will always draw Enkis with humanoid hair. There no point being a cat-person if you can\'t have a cool hairstyle. We might aswell just be plain old normal housecats otherwise. :P
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Post by: confused on January 27, 2005, 05:00:55 am
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Originally posted by Moogie
The reason the clothes look weird is because she didn\'t originally have any. :P If nudity isn\'t your thing, or if you\'re young, don\'t look  (http://www.seperot.com/moogie/images/Real_Enki.jpg) at it.

Well the last time I saw my cats, they had no clothes on! :D

As for fangs sticking out they do appear to stick out a little, well that for my cats. Even sticking out their tongues in a checky manner at times.
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Post by: Karyuu on January 27, 2005, 05:07:34 am
That\'s awesome, Moogie :> I\'ve yet to get the hang of realistic fur. Mustcatchupmustcatchupmustcatchup!

*stops thinking of ketchup*

My only real critique would be something that goes a little bit like this: Her arms seem too thick for her body. She has a really nice petite form, narrow waist and hips, but her arms appear to have at least the thickness of her thighs, which is a bit odd. Love the feet though, brownie points for feet (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/karyuu/kaoani/Rockon.gif)
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Post by: Moogie on January 27, 2005, 06:05:46 am
Thankyou Kary, the feet were a complete fluke, and I love them too. :) As for the arms, I totally agree. They did have a visible gap between the arms and her chest, but that all sortof disappeared after the smudgerising... :/

Oh, and I thought of a way the hair would look more natural- if it cast shadows across her face. But that\'s something for future endeavors, I\'m done with this little experiment now. ;)
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Post by: JellyWerker on January 27, 2005, 04:21:00 pm
Very nice, I like how you are doing the fur on this one, hopefully you will finish out the clothes so we can see the full version. Also, the feet do look good, if a bit large, but that is nothing compared to my new puppy\'s :D I think I will post a pic of her in the hydlaa plaza.
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Post by: Cyd on January 27, 2005, 07:41:40 pm
Very nice indeed... Good idea for a new skin too :P
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Post by: Moogie on February 01, 2005, 10:57:05 pm
All of my images are currently down. I\'m working on getting them back. :)
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Post by: Kixie on February 02, 2005, 05:09:04 am
;( When I finally get internet acess to see your new art, it goes down. I feel so cheated.
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Post by: JellyWerker on February 02, 2005, 06:20:39 am
he he! Tis the fairness of life :) try the library next time your out of \"internet-juice\"
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Post by: Moogie on February 06, 2005, 07:11:39 pm
All of my images are down again, and will be untill I find another host, but here\'s one that isn\'t on Seperot\'s webspace:

(http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/kary_sketch7.jpg)

This is a portrait of Karyuu, since I owe her one. ;)
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Post by: Sarrow on February 06, 2005, 07:49:03 pm
Moogie your art is amazing, you bring enky culture to life :D
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Post by: Phinehas on February 06, 2005, 08:51:43 pm
Indeed. It almost makes me regret that I\'m not an Enkidukai so Moogie could draw me. On second though, I don\'t think I\'d look that good with that few clothes on....
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Post by: Seytra on February 06, 2005, 09:14:20 pm
She\'s an \"exotic dancer\", eh? ;) Amazing drawing! :tup:

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Originally posted by Moogie
This is a portrait of Karyuu, since I owe her one. ;)


Don\'t forget that you owe me one as well! :D ;) :P
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Post by: confused on February 07, 2005, 04:58:36 am
Very good work indeed Moogie.
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Post by: Moogie on February 17, 2005, 07:10:16 pm
Decided to close this... I cannot go through every single page to fix the broken links. I\'ll make a new thread, with a link to my Art gallery on my website, and also use it to post links to new material when I make it.

But first, I have to actually make that gallery... it\'ll take a while :/ sorry.