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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 10:31:26 pm

Title: Cheat detection
Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 10:31:26 pm: I don\'t want to be a dev but i want to help out if you could send me all the stats on the cheat detction code i would like to look at it becuse a sysyem like that is good and all but i am sure id full of flaws you don\'t have to post them right out in the open send them to me at Ironman@hoppehome.com i will not share any holes i find exspit for the dev team 8)
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 30, 2003, 10:34:14 pm: hihi

What stats? D\'you mean those velocity overachivers?
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 10:37:05 pm: The code for it and how it works i could work out the bugs in it faster that way or i can do it the hard way
and the what files contane the code ect
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 30, 2003, 10:46:17 pm: haha

And what makes you credible?
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 10:52:16 pm: Jezze i was just trying to help out but i gusse you guys don\'t need help anymore? so i gusse i will do it the hard way but then i can\'t guarnte other ppl won\'t find the same holes i have all rdy found one
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 30, 2003, 10:54:16 pm: Now why are you so upset? You think they\'d just give that data away so naively? ttt
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 10:58:27 pm: i gusse they won\'t but it is a pain in the ass the hard way but w/e as i said they don\'t have to was just offering my servies to tell yea the turth i hope this game takes off and when it dose you are going to have alot more talented ppl then me trying to brake the cheating codes but if i can get them fixed now b4 they get to them you won\'t have to worry about it i have worked on some BIG MORPGs (Evercrack) not officely i am friends with one of the server opps sons and was watching him work and he said i could help him out so to all you out there trying to cheat eq good luck theres only one hole we could not patch
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 11:03:22 pm: Oh almost forgot i also worked on EQemu with a few of the top servers kurshers guildwars but then you will have to play eqemu to know about the servers but i was not working on cheats there i was working on the Item DB zone servers and a few other stuff
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 30, 2003, 11:07:43 pm: much better!

I don\'t know how things stand, but the devs keep repeating that CB(next ver) has oh so different code. Maybe they fixed that too?

As of now, you can\'t gain much by cheating anyway, any way it is possible. :))

I\'ll try to point a dev in this direction, when one wakes up. :)
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Post by: Monketh on December 30, 2003, 11:09:16 pm: Whoa man, use periods. There are several things I\'d like to know about you, such as your age, and nationality. Poor english can mean one of two things, extreme youth, or 2nd language.
...and right now I suspect the former...
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 11:09:43 pm: ok thanks i am sure they did fix the one
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Post by: Xrypt on December 30, 2003, 11:12:29 pm: Oh sorry. No i am 19. I live in the us just have always had poor english. Sorry i will try harder.
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Post by: Monketh on December 31, 2003, 12:08:43 am: It\'s ok. It just annoys me when people don\'t take the effort to use punctuation. In my mind when I read something without punctuation, it seems like the part of a commercial where the guy narrates the fine print in 3 seconds flat. :P
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Post by: Fish on December 31, 2003, 12:50:15 am: Don\'t let these guys get to you, they can be cruel. Especially about punctuation spelling and another annoying things.

Here\'s the deal Xrypt the code is open source. This means you can look at it anytime you like. However since its being updated, from what I understand substantially, you may want to hold off and view the updated code or your efforts may be wasted. Or you can download it now and get a start on trying to understand how they did it.

Download (http://www.planeshift.it/download.html) <= click here download the Linux code because it has the source with it.

If you find a security hole go ahead and post it right on this board. It is likely to get fixed considering the developers monitor this place.

By the way welcome to PlainShift.
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Post by: Kiern on December 31, 2003, 01:09:14 am: Hah, Fish is so evil...somehow that even bothered me. :P
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Post by: tangerine on December 31, 2003, 02:02:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Fish
Download (http://www.planeshift.it/download.html) <= click here download the Linux code because it has the source with it.

But that\'s Molecular Blue. Go to irc.freenode.net #planeshift and ask how to get Crystal Blue. It\'s written in channel topic there.
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Post by: acraig on December 31, 2003, 05:29:58 am: Xrypt, remember the only words you should trust are those that have an avatar. ( See avatar\'s do have a purpose! :) )

Right now the cheat code is fairly limited. It does just a basic position check to see if a players velocity is outside the norms. Of course this is very early start on it but at least we are thinking about it.

We have to develop a more formal method here to handle all areas of possible cheating.

As others have mentioned we have really moved away from the Molecular Blue code base and many things have changed code wise. But if you really are serious about it then I would suggest getting all the code out of CVS and building a local version. Once you get that far we can point you to exactly where the cheat detection stuff is.
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Post by: roguewolftamer on December 31, 2003, 08:39:17 am: just make sure u keep them from running any third party progs, and macroing, those are gonna be the worst most likely.

i dont know hardly any cheating techniques because that ruins the game(s), and i cant program though im wanting to.

and so there are no questions about what i posted (hopefully), yes i know macroing is part of the third party progs
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Post by: CadRipper on January 02, 2004, 02:46:37 am: Hehe, almost off-topic, but ... cheating you said ?

(http://users.skynet.be/oi/image/2003-Dec-28.jpg) (http://users.skynet.be/oi/image/2004-Jan-01.jpg)
First pic is December 28th, the second one January 1st, and two weeks ago this name wasn\'t here (registered around December 18th). Find the error :D
And no - I don\'t care much about the positions on the chart, I just find funny that someone can be that bold when he\'s cheating. If I understood well, it\'s a kind of exploit and he already has an expensive weapon... I wonder how much he will have tomorrow ;)
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Post by: tallimar on January 05, 2004, 08:18:08 am: the way i look at it, they could just simply put in a reward system for submitting exploits and perhaps a better reward for submitting a fix?